YEEEEEEEEHAW

I have brains. I'm a Liberal.

...
I'll rate that 4 DERPs

I dunno.

>>190105
>perpetuating the myth that liberals are smarter than conservatives.

>>190140

Yeah it's a myth to say that's an overall truth.

It is however a general truth.

>>190089
Haha, I love this chart everytime it pops up, but you forgot the funny stick faces

>>190146
You continue to enjoy that there delusion, pal.

>>190140
Well, if only there weren't so many conservatives who support Palin.

For what it's worth, I have met intelligent conservatives. I just wish they weren't so hard to find.

SMOKE WEED EVERYDAY.

KNOWLEDGE!

>>190156

Agreed. There are plenty of smart conservatives, but they're being overrun by these teafucks who can't even count to ten.

I'm liberal for the most part, but not on every single issue.

>>190156
I'm not the smartest guy in the world but I think I'm reasonably intelligent, and I'm a non-religious conservative who thinks Palin is a joke.

>>190175

You guys really need to get out there because right now you're being ruled by Beck and Palin, who are two of the biggest idiot celebrities America has ever seen. Beck's even suggested NOT going to college. Wtf? The normal, sane conservatives should of course have a voice, but they can't let this mass retardation (teafucks) take over.

>>190153

I will enjoy my delusions as long as you enjoy your own too.

>>190186
Well, you just described the problem haha. "Mass retardation", we're basically outnumbered.

>>190198
Half the American population is, by definition, below average.

>>190156
>>190174
>>190175
>>190186

Yeah I agree with you guys. The only stupid conservatives are social conservatives.

>>190210
sigh, I know...

Im a Centrist. If you have an opionion I consider you to be a wing-nut.

far left

>>190221
I believe that you have made the statement:
>Im a Centrist.
[sic]
Shit, now I'm a wingnut.

>>190105
Really because conservative philosophy makes tons more sense than liberals.

>>190246

What philosophy though? Government philosophy?

There are plenty of countries with "liberal" government systems that are doing a lot better then the states.

Social philosophy?

How can anyone be socially conservative without looking like scapegoating racist, sexist, homophobic nut?

>>190246
It may make more sense to you, but that is because you believe certain unstated assumptions about reality, life, and humanity. A liberal starts with different assumptions and arrives at different conclusions because of them. BOTH can be intelligent, clear thinkers, but disagree on many different things.

>>190259
Liberal Government doing good.....really because I'm pretty sure Greece and Italy aren't doing that great right now.

>>190270
I think this is the most mature political statement that I've seen on /new/ so far.

>>190276
Well, this IS 4chan. Mature conversation tends to be the anomaly rather than the norm.

>>190226
Because we all know that worked out so well in the past.

>>190270
I used to be a democrat so I don't think that is the case.

>>190271

Well Sweden, Denmark, Switzerland, Norway and the Netherlands are doing great.

>>190307
But haven't they themselves attributed their socialist policies working well because they have a small, hegemonistic population? America is nothing like them.

>>190105
>I have brains and I don't use 'em. I'm a Liberal.

fixed

>>190301

All he was saying was that many topics are purely opinion based, with no definitively right or wrong stance, and believe it or not, people's opinions change throughout their lives. You previously being a Democrat has shit to do with that statement.

Regardless of our differences in how things should be done though, America is improving slowly.

The economy has had two straight growth quarters.
We just captured a Taliban HQ in Afghanistan.
Taxes cut for 95% of Americans.

>>190301
Well, I can't very well make a counterargument without you stating what you are now and what has changed since the time which you were a democrat.

>>190321
I can attribute my success to fairy dust and gods of luck. That doesn't make that the actual cause of my success.

I don't know where the liberals' reputation of dovishness comes from. Libertarians are the only persons I ever seen who are consistently anti-war.

YEEHAW
Smoke Weed every day I guess
NIGGERS SCARE ME
I WANNA BE THE SLUTTY GIRL
YEEHAW!
All Amerikkans can speak their opinions and beliefs as long as they are secularists in general.

>>190333
>Taxes cut for 95% of Americans.
I would take a moment to point out that tax increases will likely happen at some point in the near future; As our federal budget stands now it is effectively a necessity.

>>190321

Canada has already recovered economically thanks to it's slightly "socialist" government controlled bank system.

Conservative. As for the chart, I see no problem with weed, make it legal. And I not really religious so can the last bar.

>>190345
>>190345
Common misconception. Liberals aren't all "no war". Most of them supported the war in Afghanistan but never supported the war in Iraq. They wanted Bin Laden and the Taliban but felt it was needless and a waste of American lives to go to Iraq, but reality ties their hands to gradually withdrawal.
Conservatives, spinning a stereotype as political opponents are apt to due are all "hurr durr damn hippies hate our troops and want us to lose, i bet they're all pacifists who want the turrists to win".

Then there's the whole bullshit rumors about soldiers being spit on when they came from Vietnam and how liberals were against Vietnam out of pacifism only. No. In fact, the Gulf of Tonkin was a false pretext for war in the first place. You think conservatives would at least point out that LBJ started an unjust war and go "look at the dems bitching".

>>190345
It's a relative comparison which has been blown out of proportion with the two party system. It has a tendency to stretch even small differences in policy into gaping chasms.

>>190363

>Legalize weed, non-religious.

How are you conservative?

>>190358
Yep. We're not back to the boomtime, but we're in much better shape than many parts of the world that took the big hit.

They're screaming for qualified derrekhands and class 1 drivers here in Alberta, despite the downturn. :P

>>190342
Uh, why would they lie about why their policies are successful? It's not "fairy magic" that makes them successful, and obviously if they themselves are saying that's why it is...then why would not believe them?

>>190374

Well I know I am definitely NOT liberal. Maybe I am both. Which I have been thinking for a long time.

>>190401

If you are both I think that means you are a...

GASP

LIBERTARIAN!

>>190374
Political affiliation being defined by more than two issues? Shocking.

>>190411

Oh shit broheim. I think I am in enemy territory now.

>>190411
>centrist equals libertarian

get the fuck out libertarian faggots, seriously

>>190397
Merely playing devil's advocate in pointing out that what they think is the cause of their success may not actually be the cause of their success.

>>190401
There are many degrees of liberalism and conservatism. There are even several spectra of them. You could be a social liberal and an economic conservative, for instance.

>>190415

No I wasn't defining him, I was just asking him what beliefs he had that made him conservative since the only ones he mentioned believing in were liberal ones.

>>190425

Indeed. I will have to look into more, rather than being a typical american and declaring myself a republican/democrat and not knowing what they actually are or what they stand for. You know how my fellow americans are when it comes to politics, friend.

>>190422

No a centrist is not both, a centrist is neither conservative or liberal.

A libertarian is socially liberal and government/economically conservative.

Therefor, BOTH!

>>190432

Despite your trip, you are being very pleasant.

>>190437

Indeed. I am currently in serious mode. The illogical trollan and reaction images are bound to come out at the given opportunity. That is, when it arises.

>>190425
Oh ok, I see what you mean now. I just didn't see why they would purposefully lie about something that important, but I see your point now.

I have taken the lazyfag way out and took some tacticool quizzes. I seem to be scoring libertarian on every single one. Intriguing and quite a mind fuck may I add.

>>190465

>LIBERTARIANS support maximum liberty in both personal and economic matters. They advocate a much smaller government; one
that is limited to protecting individuals from coercion and violence. Libertarians tend to embrace individual responsibility, oppose
government bureaucracy and taxes, promote private charity, tolerate diverse lifestyles, support the free market, and defend civil liberties.

Sounds like what I believe in, and want.

Oh if only it were to come true.

>>190099
this, apparently

>>190474
read some books from here, you'll like em

>>188796

>>190474
Libertarianism is nice, but it does still have a number of issues to work out. It's another one of the, perhaps unfortunately, long list of political systems which has never 'really existed'. How do you work out something such as smoking in public? Do you infringe on the smoker's maximum liberty or the other person's health in a public place?

>>190433

Libertarianism has been bastardized by morons. Most people these days who identify themselves as libertarians are far, far, far from socially liberal. The ideology has been taken over by the far retard right.

A libertarian would generally be against gun control, against all drug prohibition, against any sort of government mandated distinction between races (i.e. state affirmative action, prohibitions of discriminatory hiring/serving practices, etc), against any sort of government mandated distinction between sexes (same examples apply), against military intervention when we haven't been attacked (and against the draft, for cutting defence spending, etc), and against censorship (either as a response to things such as "obscenity" or things such as "hate speech").

These are all (pretty much) social issues, and so one who maintains all of these opinions without wanting to commit themselves to traditionally libertarian economic ideas could call themselves a "social libertarian".