Is this... real news...? On MY /new/!!?

>>1822422
YES! This is real news on your /new/ !

>>1822422
>>1822430

And of course it is not discussed...

Good

If you're going to screw people, might as well go the whole nine yards

Gotta save all the pennies they can for when they finally become irrelevant.

because of obama? they've been pulling shit like this for decades

Don't worry, the homosexual democrats will still have their gender reassignment surgery covered by hard working conservative Americans.

Maybe liberals will eventually figure out all our problems come from government.

>>1822533
Don't forget penis pumps for illegals.

>Corporation make money by killing children
>Democrats try to change it
>Corporations make more money by killing children

Instead of focusing the problem let's all have a big dick waving contest so we can find out whose tribe is better.

>>1822554
Corporations SAVE children through charitable donations which have created hospitals, schools, shelters, and free food.

>>1822573
Some people, like Whites, look after the wellbeing of the planet and help other people who are civil. Blacks help no one, cause trouble and suffering everywhere.

>>1822595
Liberals think charities should only help non-whites
>>1822608
People who try to "help" the planet, piss money into worthless organizations that don't do anything.
hint: planting trees isn't helping shit

collapse of current health care plans in the wake of Obamacare? Don't worry it's all according to plan. In case you didn't notice Obamacare was supposed to cause the collapse of the health insurance industry so that govt can take over. That was the plan from the beginning.

>>1822595
But how much of that money actually gets donated towards that end?

>>1822676

A solid 10%, the rest goes towards other costs involved.

>>1822696
Fascinating, where did you found this out because I doubted that corporations donate the full amount that they pledge.

Do you have any details about the costs before the actual donation?

this only happened because children can now be covered even if they have 'preexisting conditions.'

Before, insurers could choose not to cover sick kids (who need it most) because it would cost more money. Now, that's illegal. They have to cover everybody, regardless of if they have a preexisting condition or not. Sounds fair, and reasonable to me.

Insurers have adjusted by not covering any children with individual policies [sick or healthy]. This doesn't affect group policies, which cover most families. Again, sounds fair and reasonable to me. If insurers don't want to cover children individually, that's their perogative. Free country, man.

>>1822744

Actually I just pulled that out of my ass, I don't know how much is actually going to the cause they claim to support.

Depends on the organization I suppose.

>>1822744
All charities are scams, haven't you figured that out yet?

The public option is the obvious end goal here, it's the only way the idea of the government funding poor peoples' insurance makes any sense.

They should've let it be debated in the bill discussion, but the GOP was in mass hysteria mode as usual.

>>1822790
>The public option is the obvious end goal here
You libs never get a clue, GOVERNMENT IS NEVER A SOLUTION YOU INSANE RETARDS

>it's the only way the idea of the government funding poor peoples' insurance makes any sense.
OR HOW ABOUT WE REMOVE THE STATIST LAWS WHICH PREVENT REASONABLY PRICED HEALTH CARE AND GET RID OF THIS WACKY ENTITLEMENT MINDSET?

>but the GOP was in mass hysteria mode as usual.
Fuck off traitor

>>1822790
In addition Obama did not push it in fear of being labeled a socialist. Problem is that the conservative media and the Tea Party already begun the claims as soon as he announced a public option.

>>1822804
>You libs never get a clue, GOVERNMENT IS NEVER A SOLUTION YOU INSANE RETARDS

See: FCC, FTC, FDIC, police, military, roads, and education.

>>1822804
I don't actually give a damn, just stating the obvious to anyone without a tongue tethered to Beck's asshole.

>>1822826
all massive failures

>>1822804
>OR HOW ABOUT WE REMOVE THE STATIST LAWS WHICH PREVENT REASONABLY PRICED HEALTH CARE AND GET RID OF THIS WACKY ENTITLEMENT MINDSET?

Can I ask you a question, do you have health insurance? Even affordable health insurance?

>>1822835
>all massive failures
riiigght

>>1822835
Explain how each of them are as you say "all massive failures" ?

United Kingdom here, hahahahahahahaha.

FEELS. SO. FUCKING. GOOD. NOT TO BE AMERICAN.

>>1822842
No, such things are impossible since you statists and leftists started ruining our health care 50 years ago.

>>1822871
Then explain how statists and leftists have started ruining health care 50 years ago?

>>1822914
Sir, you're implying that immigrants are ruining health care. This is a simple chart, how are immigrants are ruining health care?

>>1822871
You'd prefer 1960 medicine?
I was in a Catholic hospital that was like that, everything on wheels so the treatment room could be used for Sunday school or something.

>>1822914
You're awesome. Yea, you are.

>>1822914
>>1823012
oops i picked the wrong graph

anyways health care costs have been exploding for decades. When an illegal gets a 100,000$ operation to give him a penis pump, that's coming out of YOUR TAX DOLLARS.

>>1823052
Obviously i do not want to throw away 40 years of progress(unlike liberals)

However, without understanding the perverse and horrendous influence government has on health care due to regulation, licensing, taxation, and entitlements, then all your solutions are bound to fail.

>>1823105
The same argument can be made for providing free health care via the emergency room to those who don't have health insurance.

Wait a minute a 100,000 dollar operation to give him a penis pump? That is absurd! Unless you have proof that this has actually happened.

>>1823151
http://michellemalkin.com/2010/07/16/illegal-gets-taxpayer-funded-penis-pump/

>>1823174
So this one isolated case is simply enough to argue against providing assistance to health care for illegal immigrants. But what about illegal immigrants that had legitimate health problems?

>>1823234
It is not "one" isolated case, and i full agree with you that mandating emergency rooms to take niggers and beaners is a failure of an idea.

Liberals and government are the problem. They prevent solutions from being enacted, socialist health care is a failure.

>>1823272
We already tried private solutions to health care and we still have problems. What solutions do you have?

>>1823234
>illegal
>legitimate

Those two things never go together.