Australia has elections?

>>1817955

I'm watching the debate, and seeing the colours on the worm switch due to gender bias is hilarious.

>>1817955
conservatism

>>1817958
Yes, we somehow elected a woman. I don't remember when...

>>1817955
Whoever wins. We lose.
Labour - DEY TURK OR JEBS.
Liberal - Lol conservatives.

Quickly choose, a progressive atheist women or a conservative catholic man!

>>1818001
but she's gay

and a redhead

>>1818001
>progressive
no
>atheist
irrelevant
>woman
irrelevant

DEBATE NIGHT OLOLOLOL
I don't like this year's worm. It's not very fast flowing like it was last election.
Probably liberal, at least I hope.
I would vote for the democratic party but they have the slightest chance of winning.

>>1818040
The worm is fucking stupid.
Lets reduce the political debate to YES/NO decision, sounds like a brilliant idea !

Women should not have the right to vote.

Also, neither of them have actually answered anything.

PS. FAIR DINKUM

>implying anybody gives a shit about Australia

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>>1818057
TRANSPARENT FAIR DINKUM TRANSPARENT HURDUR HURRR SCHOOLS EDUCATION SCHOOLS DURR

STOP RIGHT THERE, CRIMINAL SCRUM
LOL u get my joke cuz austria iz nashun of crimnuls xd

you are so fucked

Gillard is a stupid cunt. If she wins the election labor will just fuck her over and elect someone else anyway.

Abbott will win

>>1818091
I'm sad to say that I'm closer to the greens than anyone else.

>>1818091

Man I love this country

http://www.abc.net.au/news/abcnews24/

rediculous, neither tackled the issues of IT and internet infrastructure. instead shit like the leadership spill which is a legitimate move under the westminster system and 'boat people' which make up 0.03% of our illegal immigration numbers.

both do not deserve the seats they are going to be getting.

however it looks like the greens are going to hold the balance of power and fuck it up for both of them for the next three years.

im doing my part to break the two party mentality, its just a shame the democrats imploded last election.

>>1818091

what am i then

vote the way i always do
for the party that isn't in power

SAGE

>>1818327
your in a contradiction with your beliefs. How can you be pro socialist and pro libertarian?

>>1818373
lol

moron

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>>1818373
if taxes were optional.

Liberals will win.

>>1818327
Closer to Socialist Alliance.

that's not Ruud, so everybody loses

KEVIN10

DON'T LET JULIA FOOL YA

Labor win. Greens 2-4 seats in house of reps + balance of power in Senate. Malcolm Turnbull leader of Libs again before 2012.

>>1818609
Greens are only likely in Sydney and Melbourne mate.

>>1818618
As in _only those two electorates named_ Sydney and Melbourne

Why was the worm from ch7 different from the one from ch9? Isn't it based on the audience?

>>1818655
Different audiences

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>>1818618
Reckon you're fooling yourself. We'll find out soon enough.

>>1818655
>the worm
is fucking bullshit.

Wow, I didn't even know this was on.

I don't care either.

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>>1818658
Couldnt you guys start your own chansite in Australia?

You could call it Achan.

>>1818655
During Howard's decline the two worms worked differently. One was a push-button system for the audience, and the other had a dial the audience members could adjust depending on how they felt about a debater's performance.

It's suggested that the dial system gives a better measure of the audience attitude. I haven't paid much attention to this debate, so it might have changed.

>>1818687
Have you seen how dickhead-infested that place is? Fuck off. We're staying here.

>>1818694

Countries get the chans they deserve.

>>1818700

doesn't bode well for murka.

>>1818707

America actually has a set of beliefs, even though most of its population are morons.

Australia has no set of beliefs, unless it's "Pull your fucking head in!"

we didnt elect her.!!!! austalia only has a "first female priminister" once she gets voted in-

abott seems lost as in comparison to "the red head" but abotts party has better policies. in my opinion. - he wont win.

>>1818748
The grammar and quality of written expression in this post is representative of the average Liberal voter.

This is the first election where both parties have genuinely pissed me off.

At least, bumbling and sometimes incompetent as he was, Kevin Rudd seemed like a decent person who had Australia's best interests at heart. He fucked up but you could vote for him and not feel bad about it. Now both of them seem to be self-serving turds who care only about the shit going on in their own parties and how they can trick the Australian population with inefficient policies that are designed to be attention-seeking rather than effective.

>>1818759
>of the average Australian.
FTFY

>>1818786
Painfully true.

>>1818785
>politician
>having the people's best interests at heart
This is what children actually believe.

>>1818748
What policies? All night all I heard from both parties was "he said this thing", "well _I_ said THIS! this isn't what SHE said", "well actually, this is what HE was saying".

Neither side presented anything. It's all a load of bullshit. See: OPs image name.

>>1818785
>implying that politicians haven't always been like this

VOTE GILLARD! When the Greatest Depression hits we can blame her!

>>1818675
I think Sydney and Melbourne will be 2pp labor win, greens second preference. Maybe Melbourne could spill.

Senate will be greens controlled.

>>1818785
Vote 1 Greens or Socialist Alliance or Sex Party then.

It's all a wank unless you vote below the line. Australians complain about the governments they get, then walk straight into a polling booth and piss it all away by handing preferences to the dinosaur parties.

>>1818915

Vote 1 Greens and it goes to Labor, as you should know by now the Greens and Labor made a preference deal in the lower house(It's mandatory in the Senate) so when you put a 1 next to the Greens on the ballot, that vote goes straight to Labor

>>1818930

This is so true. It's annoying when i here people say they don't care who there voting for so just give it to either Labor or Liberal, i mean if your gunna do that at least vote for the greens

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>>1818950
You guys are fucking retarded if you think the Greens are a good vote.

>>1818963

i never said they were a good choice, just better than Labor or Liberal

>>1818963
Why not?

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>>1818963

Did you even read what I fucking wrote you dumb cunt? I said voting for the Greens is voting for Labor due to their new preference deal, I never said to vote for the Greens, open your fucking eyes you slant eyed gook cunt

Why the fuck do people give more of a shit about masterchef finals rather than politics that will affect them tomorrow?

and react in a negative way when told that maybe watching the debate is more important than watching some chef get money.

Can any ausfags explain why there is such apathy?

>>1818949
Vote below the line retard.

For example, I live in the Sydney electorate.

1 Greens
2 Socialist Alliance
3-x Every other retard
x+1 Labour
x+2 Liberal
x+3 Nazi independents

In the upper house voting below the line is JUST THE SAME.

>>1818983
We've always been an apathetic nation. Its just only now its come back to bite us

>>1818983
Australians are basically serfs. We accept what the aristocrats tell us, grumble a bit, then get on with being obedient.

We don't expect or welcome change because we've never known it.

>>1818982
>I'm too dumb to number Labor last if I hate them.

>>1818995

I know that dumb cunt, but the majority of people won't vote below the line, and the dumb cunts who are supporting the Greens because they don't like either party are just giving their vote to Labor due to the new preference deal

>>1818995
only vote the greens in the upper house, if you vote them #1 in the lower house their preference goes straight to Labor since they made that deal.

>>1819006

>Thinks I am talking about myself

>Thinks the majority of Australians who would rather watch a shitty reality t.v. show won't just vote above the line

>>1819018

They also made the preference in the Senate, everyone makes a preference, it's mandatory for the Senate to do so

>>1819018
You don't seem to understand how the lower house ballot works you cretin.

In the lower house _YOU_ have to number every box. If you detest labour

1 Greens
2-x Everyone else
x+1 Liberals
x+2 Labour
x+3 Nazi shites

>>1819012
Greens have strongest support amongst white collar university professionals in creative and intellectual fields such as nursing, teaching, the arts, government administration, university education.

They're not "dumb cunts" by any stretch of the imagination.

>>1819027
i fucking know that. I was just saying its useless to vote greens #1 in the lower house because they give there preference to Labor anyway

>>1819026
I'm pretty sure it was only the lower house. If the greens gave preference to Labor in the senate then they would be able to pass what ever legislation they want because they'd have a majority in both houses then.

>>1819027

YOU DON'T SEEM TO REALISE THAT LABOR AND GREENS MADE A DEAL IN THE LOWER HOUSE, SO WHEN YOU PUT 1 NEXT TO THE GREENS IT GOES TOWARDS LABOR, DERP DERP

>>1819050

They did, because it's mandatory, it happens every election, even Liberal used to give their preference to the Greens in the Senate to make sure Labor doesn't have the balance of power, but since Labor is going to also in both the Senate and the Lower House, Idk what Liberal will do

Every party is required to register preference flows. It's not some new kind of corrupt backroom horse-trade.

Make it irrelevant by voting below the line.

>>1819031
>intellectual fields
>such as nursing, teaching, the arts, government administration, university education.

LOL WUT

>>1819050
So the reason why it is useless for YOU to vote 1 Greens in the lower house is because other voters cast their preferences according to their own decision.

>>1819051
Lower house votes are ALWAYS, ALWAYS controlled by the individual voter. Got read up at the aec.

>>1819140
I chuckled a bit at nursing and teaching being considered "intellectual", but government services are staffed by well-educated people.

>>1819051
This is what the Murdoch media does to otherwise sensible people.

Liberal voters: Business-class + upper-class + bogan-class
Labor voters: Working class + Lower-middle class
Greens voters: University-academia-class + undergrad

there i've basically summed up every possible discussion on politics in australia, so this thread can now die

>>1819157
They require a 4 year university degree and continuous in-service training in abstract concepts. They arise as a coherent cluster in green voting outcomes across multiple electorates. Go see the crikey analysis of the basis of the Green's lower house vote.

>>1819194
Nursing is a 3-year course for Division 1 and just 2 years for div 2. Very, very few "abstract concepts" are involved, and in-service training doesn't introduce any. Can't speak for teaching.

I don't disagree that nurses and teachers are strongly represented in Greens voting demographics, but "intellectual" they are not. Nursing is more anti-intellectual than the military.

>>1819224
A 2 year nurse has very few job prospects. A 3 year nurse who fails to take in service training isn't going to make it anywhere in the hospital system. Cretinism amongst nurses and nurse educators still remains, but it isn't the standard, and hasn't been since the early 1990s.

>>1819270
In-service is standard. It's nonsensical to talk about nurses not taking in-service training.

Nursing is anti-intellectual. Like the military, it's a profession that values basic, hands-on skills and performance over abstract knowledge. Overtly intelligent and/or intellectually curious nurses are treated as elitists.

>>1818687
We actually do, but it is extremely underpopulated so I am simply going to spread the word, not advertise, and never spam.

www.auschan.org

just swing by if you are an aussie, but shit never happens on the site so it's real boring.

>>1819192
wrong. young people tend to vote for labor.

http://blogs.crikey.com.au/pollytics/2010/07/21/what-size-the-alp-vote-hit-from-closing-rolls-early/

>We also know that 18-24s in the polling have been supporting Labor at a rate of between 54% and 62% for the last couple of years. At the 2007 election they actually voted for Labor somewhere around the 64% mark.

>>1819299
There's a difference between taking basic in-service and actually advancing in a speciality.

>implying anyone gives a shit about who wins on Reject Island

australian politics is the special olympics of politics

>>1819321
...and it's full of dicktards who think turning kitsch Australiana up to 11 and calling each other "maaaaate!" is true blue fair dinkum grouse national identity cobber.

>>1819343
In-service is skill maintenance. Specialising is mostly grad dip and masters courses.

In any case, nursing isn't "intellectual" by a long shot.

>>1819346
>Implying Australia isn't the last nation of proud whiteys on the planet

>>1819354
You should talk to some wogs sometime about politics in backwoods Romania or wherever they're from. It's crazy shit you wouldn't believe.

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>>1819031
While this is true, I wouldn't vote for them simply because they have a one-policy platform. End of.

>>1819192

To be fair the Bogan class tends to swing from Labor to Liberal. Unless they have a local national MP, in which case they'll vote national.

>>1819484
They're the hip-pocket voters every politician dreams of.

Abbotsgonnawinlol

Who needs elections when you've got royalty