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    159 KB Anonymous 07/18/10(Sun)18:03 No.1739845  
    This is a map of Bostons streetcars at their peak in 1940.
    Through the late-1940s, 1950s and early-1960s they systematically dismantled the network, some parts were replaced with Trolley Buses or regular buses, forcing people into cars to travel and out of the city to live.
    Today it is a much harder place to get around with out a car, requiring the individual to expend their wealth on a car and society to assume the cost of greater pollution.
    All the major American cities did this.
    Why?
    >> Anonymous 07/18/10(Sun)18:04 No.1739857
    dunno, but it could be a goldmine of interesting government shit if there was sauce and links etc.
    >> Anonymous 07/18/10(Sun)18:06 No.1739882
    >>1739845

    Because the government took over management of railroads, through the bureau of transportation.

    Or some shit. I'm kinda drunk.
    >> Anonymous 07/18/10(Sun)18:06 No.1739883
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    Melbourne kept its trams, and is better for it.
    You can travel all around the place cheaply, conveniently, frequently
    >> zanipani !O6pcuKZzYM 07/18/10(Sun)18:08 No.1739900
    because the people would have to spend they own money on their own things than the city having to afford to keep the trolleys running and fix.
    >> Anonymous 07/18/10(Sun)18:09 No.1739914
    >>1739845
    For a variety of reasons, gas was cheap and people were using the automobiles a lot more. The glut of automobiles made public transit slow to crawl, which made more people get cars just for the convenience of getting around.
    >> Anonymous 07/18/10(Sun)18:12 No.1739960
    because everyone has cars
    >> Anonymous 07/18/10(Sun)18:13 No.1739970
    >>1739914

    Because poor people could afford cars 60 years ago?

    Or because poor people didn't need to travel 60 years ago?

    Which of your liberal theories are retarded?
    >> Anonymous 07/18/10(Sun)18:13 No.1739973
    #1. white flight to the suburbs.
    >> Anonymous 07/18/10(Sun)18:14 No.1739986
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    L.A. streetcars, same fate
    >> Anonymous 07/18/10(Sun)18:20 No.1740065
    >>1739900
    In English please.
    But if you're saying what I think you're saying, public transportation networks - Streetcars in this case - are financed through a combination of government funding & passenger fairs.

    Streetcars is better than buses due to their higher capacity, longer lifespan, reduced wear on roads
    Public Transportations cost to the taxpayer is much less than ROADSROADSROADS (especially when you consider Boston is the home of the Big Dig), less than the cost to the individual of maintaining a car, removes the cost to society of pollution from all the car travel, and so on
    >>1739914
    They were using the automobile a lot more because Streetcar networks were being shutdown and Railways regulated out of business
    >> Anonymous 07/18/10(Sun)18:26 No.1740138
    Why?
    Because street cars are shit.
    >> Anonymous 07/18/10(Sun)18:26 No.1740146
    >>1739845
    same reason no one uses typewriters anymore
    >> Anonymous 07/18/10(Sun)18:29 No.1740172
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    >>1740138
    >> Anonymous 07/18/10(Sun)18:47 No.1740348
    >>1740172
    nice pile of shit there
    >> Anonymous 07/18/10(Sun)19:21 No.1740739
    >>1740138
    >>1740348
    EXPLAIN FURTHER.
    >> Special Agent Dale !CoOperRA66 07/18/10(Sun)19:22 No.1740748
    SECRET CORPORATE CONSPIRACY BY THE AUTOMOTIVE INDUSTRY
    >> Anonymous 07/18/10(Sun)19:24 No.1740769
    Oiln't you enjoying your lifestyle?
    >> Anonymous 07/18/10(Sun)19:25 No.1740771
    >>1739845

    Because the average American could and can afford an automobile and the Great Depression invented a car culture in the US because for many people it was transportation, housing, a potential revenue source, and quite literally one of the only things many Americans owned.

    That forced reliance on the car for the better part of a decade instilled a great fondness for the car, which prevented millions, maybe even tens of millions of people from being completely homeless and unable to move anywhere.
    >> Anonymous 07/18/10(Sun)19:25 No.1740774
    A legitimate conspiracy to encourage the growth of the automobile. Hence you had people buying trolley tracks, and tearing them down to force people into cars.

    If anything the automobile was America's post-war bubble. People went straight into factories after the war to make cars, and construction to build roads, gas stations, and facilities along the roads.
    >> Anonymous 07/18/10(Sun)19:28 No.1740813
    see-- Great American streetcar scandal
    and
    United States v. National City Lines, Inc.
    >> 07/18/10(Sun)19:28 No.1740816
    >>1740774
    This, goddamnit.

    General Motors and Ford Motor Company set about buying up trolley companies, and the first thing they did was end service and rip up the tracks, then they sold the land back to the city with the agreement that they'd pave them.

    This isn't /new/s, this is like, teabagger central.
    >> raito !!qtT/ZWJZ7Oe 07/18/10(Sun)19:30 No.1740828
    some of the same shit is being pulled now so that we only use airplanes as long distance transportation

    crazy
    >> Anonymous 07/18/10(Sun)19:31 No.1740843
    the only conspiracy I see is op posting this thread every damn day
    >> Anonymous 07/18/10(Sun)19:32 No.1740848
    ITT

    the market fixing it
    >> Anonymous 07/18/10(Sun)19:32 No.1740855
    >>1739973
    This. I think OP has his causes and effects mixed up.
    >> Anonymous 07/18/10(Sun)19:33 No.1740856
    because they weren't thinking 50-100 years ahead and put all the stock into roadways.....which is biting america in the ass hard right now.....the combination of lax public transporation and the dismantling of alot of the national railways was really fucking silly.
    >> 07/18/10(Sun)19:34 No.1740871
    >>1740828
    To be fair, planes can travel much farther in 2 hours than a train can. If I could walk 5 minutes and catch the subway to a station, and exchange to longer-distance rail that would take me within walking distance (or to another line that was) of my destination...

    I'd never use a car again.



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