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    61 KB On State Pay Cuts, Judge Rebuffs California Governor Ned the Newshound !XBW.lrXjxw 07/17/10(Sat)11:56 No.1726493  
    A California judge on Friday declined a request by the Schwarzenegger administration to compel the state controller to reduce the pay of 200,000 state workers to the minimum wage while lawmakers muddled though a budget impasse.

    In 2008, the Republican administration sought to impose the minimum wage on state workers, citing a 2003 California Supreme Court ruling that found that the state could not pay normal wages to state workers without a legislative appropriation or a passed budget.

    But the controller, John Chiang, a Democrat, refused to make the change, arguing that the state’s decades-old computerized payroll system was not able to manage the complex task of pay changes, and that such changes would violate federal and state labor laws. (Workers would be repaid their wages after a budget was settled.) In a lawsuit over the matter, the courts ruled in favor of Gov. Arnold Schwarzenegger.

    The budget finally passed, but the issue was revived again this month when the administration again sought the wage reduction after lawmakers failed to come up with a budget by the beginning of the fiscal year, July 1. An appellate judge ruled in the administration’s favor, and Mr. Chiang again refused to comply. So the administration sought a court order to reduce workers pay to the minimum wage, $7.25 an hour, until the final appeals process was exhausted. The average base pay for state employees is $65,484 per year.

    Read more: http://www.nytimes.com/2010/07/17/us/politics/17minimum.html
    >> Anonymous 07/17/10(Sat)12:02 No.1726548
    Good move. No one employed by the government should ever make over $80,000 a year since their salary comes out of our paychecks.
    >> Anonymous 07/17/10(Sat)12:03 No.1726563
    >>1726548
    Depends on what they are doing.
    >> Ned the Newshound !XBW.lrXjxw 07/17/10(Sat)12:04 No.1726571
    >>1726548
    Why can't Schwarzenegger take a paycut?
    >> Anonymous 07/17/10(Sat)12:12 No.1726627
    the way business is handled seems so sticky and hard to work around...why make everything so damn difficult?
    >> Anonymous 07/17/10(Sat)12:15 No.1726646
    >>1726563
    Like what? Most people who enlist don't even get paid that well and they have to put up with a lot more than any politician.

    >>1726571
    I never said he couldn't. In fact he should. Reduce his pay to $80,000 a year.
    >> Anonymous 07/17/10(Sat)12:23 No.1726693
    >>1726646
    >Like what? Most people who enlist don't even get paid that well and they have to put up with a lot more than any politician.
    You need people with technical backgrounds if you plan on instituting any intelligent regulations.
    >> Anonymous 07/17/10(Sat)12:24 No.1726698
    >>1726693
    i concur, but you also need ones who aren't fucked up in the head either...
    >> Anonymous 07/17/10(Sat)12:33 No.1726752
    >>1726693
    People with technical backgrounds should be employed in their respective fields. I see no reason why they should spend over $80,000 per person per year on consultation.
    >> Anonymous 07/17/10(Sat)12:34 No.1726761
    >>1726752
    agreed. why so much?
    >> Anonymous 07/17/10(Sat)12:35 No.1726766
    >>1726752
    It's cute how you have no idea what services cost.
    >> Anonymous 07/17/10(Sat)12:35 No.1726772
    >>1726761
    >agreed. why so much?
    Experience is expensive.
    >> Anonymous 07/17/10(Sat)12:39 No.1726795
    >>1726571
    stateline.org cited the average governor salary to be $124,398. The annual salary for California Governor Arnold Schwarzenegger is the highest in the governor salary ranking, $206,500, but he does not accept his salary (he did pretty well in Hollywood, if I recall).

    The only way he can go lower is if he starts paying to work.

    Tripfaggot.
    >> Anonymous 07/17/10(Sat)12:40 No.1726806
    >>1726795
    >he does not accept his salary
    I love how this makes the IRS rage, particularly when Fortune 500 CEOs do it.
    >> Anonymous 07/17/10(Sat)12:42 No.1726813
    >>1726571

    Schwarzenegger does not accept his governor's salary. Maybe you should learn the facts before spouting bullshit.
    >> Anonymous 07/17/10(Sat)12:43 No.1726828
    200,000 State workers, lol. With that many people dedicated to running the state into the ground they have no hope of recovering.
    >> Anonymous 07/17/10(Sat)12:45 No.1726835
    stop giving free shit to illegal moochers in your sanctuary cities, california, and maybe you won't be bleeding money out of every orifice.

    that or actually pay taxes for all the shit you expect your state government to provide
    >> Anonymous 07/17/10(Sat)12:45 No.1726836
    so where is this magic money supposed to come from?


    Fucking judges think they can legislate wealth out of thin air.
    >> Anonymous 07/17/10(Sat)12:47 No.1726852
    >>1726835
    It takes alot of government workers to hand out all that free shit. They aren't going to put themselves on the unemployment line ... in their minds they are doing wonderful work and not being paid enough to do it.
    >> Anonymous 07/17/10(Sat)12:47 No.1726855
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    >>1726813
    What a glorious leader!
    >> Anonymous 07/17/10(Sat)12:48 No.1726866
    >>1726836

    Money?

    This isn't about not having money, this is about having a budget passed.
    >> Anonymous 07/17/10(Sat)12:50 No.1726881
    >>1726571


    Why are tripfags so fucking dumb?
    >> Anonymous 07/17/10(Sat)12:59 No.1726987
    California's legal system is a joke.

    I've been over there for a few legal matters. Despite the difficulty of their bar exam, they practice a very low quality of law.
    >> Anonymous 07/17/10(Sat)13:02 No.1727005
    >>1726987

    Nobody respects California or the 9th Circuit except for California and the 9th Circuit.
    >> Anonymous 07/17/10(Sat)13:09 No.1727043
    often when cutting stateworkers to make short term savings they end up getting rid of technically experienced people and promoting junior members to their position at reduced pay (as well as cutting as many juniors as possible)

    Inevitably the system becomes both overworked and undermanaged, it spirals into failure and half measures wont fix it

    often they end up quietly getting the technicaly experienced people back (often the exact same person and often as a higher paid consultant to mask their total cockup)
    >> Anonymous 07/17/10(Sat)13:23 No.1727147
    >>1727043

    Overworked and undermanaged? You don't get it...half of State workers shouldn't have a job. The "job" they have isn't necessary and they certainly don't need to be paid overtime to do it.

    Pretty simple. CA only has enough money to pay for 80% of it's government. Prioritize and get rid of 20%. But government workers are in unions, don't have to make a profit and don't give a fuck about serving the citizens. They just want their overtime, healthcare, vacation, retirement savings plans and pensions. IF there's not enough money, close the parks, cut benefits to poor people, but never, never close any government offices or eliminate any government programs...even though the program only has enough money to pay the government works and no money to provide services to the people.
    >> Anonymous 07/17/10(Sat)13:33 No.1727221
    >>1726571
    >>1726646

    Because of his personal wealth from his acting career, Schwarzenegger does not accept his governor's salary of $175,000 per year.
    >> Anonymous 07/17/10(Sat)13:37 No.1727252
    >>1727147
    > "job" they have isn't necessary
    fair point but very debatable

    as you said its a matter of prioritisng,is it better to make shared sweeping cuts to many/every department (thus risking afformentioned decay failure) or entire departments (which other departments rely on)

    either option has risks and social and political impacts
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    >> Anonymous 07/17/10(Sat)13:40 No.1727273
    >>1727221

    What a fuckin guy! And he's pro cannabis.
    Wish my governor wasn't an overpaid state employee that's been around 25 years too long.
    $10,000 a month for a rental mansion.
    >> Anonymous 07/17/10(Sat)13:41 No.1727288
    good ol public employee unions. same problems in new york state. why the fuck do toll collectors need to make $30/hour and go to college for free and get healthcare too?????????
    >> Anonymous 07/17/10(Sat)13:43 No.1727297
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    >> Anonymous 07/17/10(Sat)13:43 No.1727298
    >>1727252
    or the state can just implode. either way.
    >> Ned the Newshound !XBW.lrXjxw 07/17/10(Sat)13:53 No.1727381
    >>1727221
    Well I'll be damned.
    >> Anonymous 07/17/10(Sat)13:53 No.1727383
    ITT: 13 year olds have no idea how anything works
    HURR U A STATE WORKER U SHOULD GET MINIMUM WAGE!!!!
    >I'm an engineer, asshole.
    >> Anonymous 07/17/10(Sat)13:57 No.1727410
    >>1727383

    If it's between a state's bankruptcy and fucking over 30 million+ people or 200,000 people getting a higher salary, only those 200,000 would opt for the latter.
    >> Anonymous 07/17/10(Sat)13:58 No.1727420
    >>1727410
    >implying state workers don't already make less than their peers in the private sector
    >> Anonymous 07/17/10(Sat)13:59 No.1727434
    >>1727420

    Again, if the state cannot afford it then only those 200,000 would want more money.
    >> Anonymous 07/17/10(Sat)14:00 No.1727447
    >>1727420
    >implying their total compensation package (salary + benefits) is lower than the private sector.
    >> Anonymous 07/17/10(Sat)14:01 No.1727448
    >>1727434
    your point is asinine
    >> Anonymous 07/17/10(Sat)14:02 No.1727467
    Government workers run America. They will never see their wages or pension benefits reduced. Even if it means the ruin of America.

    They don't give a fuck.
    >> Anonymous 07/17/10(Sat)14:03 No.1727483
    >>1727448

    If you want a greater salary and benefits then go into the private sector. When it's between a state trying to get its finances together and its employees having to go on minimum wage for a while then I will side with the state trying to get its act together.

    You're the equivalent of a child demanding more allowance for doing chores even though your father cannot afford to give you more money since he has to pay bills.
    >> Anonymous 07/17/10(Sat)14:03 No.1727486
    >>1727467
    this. i say we all just stop paying taxes until they get shit locked down.
    >> Anonymous 07/17/10(Sat)14:05 No.1727503
    I love how contracts apply to everyone except state workers. Do you know what a contract is?

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