>>implying China and the US are the same
>>blatantly makes Europe look better

0/10

Communism.

Communism is a economic system not a political one.
So it is Capitalism vs communism and democracy vs a dictatorship.

The european meritocracy, because the socialist government took better care of it's citizens and therefore has better quality conscripts.

>>1724641
>implying politics isn't deeply intertwined with economics

>>1724636
>implying they're not
China is exactly what American "conservatives" are trying to turn America into.

>>1724636

Truth, China owns at capitalism while America is failing hard.

>implying Europe won't be a Sharia law run Islamist shithole by 2050

>>1724641
lol did you learn that in school today?

>>1724636

> Implying the Chinese and American Production / Consumption symbiosis does not imply that they are a singular economic reality.

> Implying nations still matter.

> Implying that Superpowers aren't a problem to the world.

Goddamn liberals/Europeans are mentally ill. Enjoy starving to death because your deluded policies resulted in the collapse of civilization. I sure will :)

>>1724652
> Implying the second generation of immigrants doesn't have western ideals already.

Integration sucessfull.

>>1724666
>Enjoy starving to death
>I sure will :)
Allrighty then.

Silly butthurt euro

he book The Millionaire Next Door: The Surprising Secrets of America's Wealthy is by Thomas J. Stanley and William D. Danko.

This book is a compilation of research done by the two authors in the profiles of 'millionaires'. In this case they used the term 'millionaire' to denote U.S. households with net-worths exceeding one million dollars (USD).

Who is the prototypical American millionaire?

>Many of the types of businesses we are in could be classified as dullnormal. They are welding contractors, auctioneers, rice farmers, owners of mobile-home parks, pest controllers, coin and stamp dealers, and paving contractors.
>Most have never felt at a disadvantage because they did not receive any inheritance. About 80 percent of them are first-generation affluent.
>Only 19 percent receive any income or wealth of any kind from a trust fund or an estate.
>Fewer than 20 percent inherited 10 percent or more of their wealth.
>More than half never received as much as $1 in inheritance.
>Fewer than 25 percent ever received "an act of kindness" of $10,000 or more from their parents, grandparents, or other relatives.
>Ninety-one percent never received, as a gift, as much as $1 of the ownership of a family business.
>Nearly half never received any college tuition from their parents or other relatives.

http://www.nytimes.com/books/first/s/stanley-millionaire.html

America and China will win because they're more successful at brainwashing their population into submission than we are. They also have less regard for human life, so they can send wave after wave of redneck human wave attacks.

>>1724689
> human wave attack

. . .What?

>>1724688
Liberal status = owned.

If the US collapses we take the entire goddamn world with us.

Have fun eating our shit no matter what happens Eurobitches.

>>1724688
> Implying the division of wealth in the USA isn't of nearly medieval proportions.

>>1724688
>implying being a millionaire gives you any power in the plutocracy
We're talking about somewhat different scales here bro. And as for becoming rich, nobody said it's impossible. It's the same in China. It's just extremely unlikely, and the vast majority of the population which doesn't make it rots in a miserable life of poverty.

>>1724706

If the EU collapses we take the entire goddamn world with us.

Have fun eating our shit no matter what happens Ameribitches.

derp

>>1724628
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>>1724714
Are you seriously saying ANY American lives in miserable poverty? Really? REALLY!?

Go to a 3rd world country and get some perspective you twat.

>>1724713
Its at 1920s levels, actually. So hmmmmmmmmmmmm

>Europe
>socialist
No. They still practise capitalism and ain't gonna stop it. Welfare state=mix up between socialism and capitalism.

>>1724714
>It's just extremely unlikely, and the vast majority of the population which doesn't make it rots in a miserable life of poverty

Read the post i made one more time.

You seem horribly entrenched in your dogma.

>>1724726
By Western standards, quality of life in the US is pretty bad, especially considering the massive amount of wealth you generate.

>>1724728
I suppose that can be considered worse.

>>1724736
Your post was about a study of millionaires. That only concerns a small minority and is irrelevant to the general population.

> battle between democracy, fascism and communism.
The 'democratic' side supported many dictatorships to stop the spread of communism, and supported fascism in Europe for the same reason.

It was a battle between capitalism (with fascism) and communism.

>>1724750
No

It concerned "class" mobility. And the fact that you can be wealthy if you so desire.

The 20th Century was a battle between opposing economic/cultural blocs.
Injecting some ideological bullshit into the mix just reveals you as a kool aid guzzler.

>>1724688

You can cherry pick all sorts of shit. The fact remains that most wealth in the USA is inherited.

>>1724761
No, it wasn't. In a threeway battle, it can only be 2 vs. 1 at a time. Democracy and communism defeated fascism in WW2. Democracy defeated communism in the Cold War. I'm using those words just to sum up the ideological differences, of course many countries on the "democratic" side weren't democratic and none were really communist, that's not the point.

>>1724771
>And the fact that you can be wealthy if you so desire.
Pretty sure there would be a lot more wealthy people if that was the case.

>>1724774
>The fact remains that most wealth in the USA is inherited.

This is an argument simply not backed up by the facts

Most wealth in America is first generational. Deal with it.

>>1724779
You can be pretty rich if you have the intelligence (real intelligence), social acuity, entrepreneurial skills, positive personality, and a little bit of luck.
Most people don't have all these things, or don't have enough.

>>1724761
the 20th century was the agressive nad bloody birth of two new governing philosophy

corporatism vs statism

Corporatism clearly won
Corporatim won

>>1724743

No shit, I was born in the US and I'm never going back there. It was still okay 15 years ago, but it's just another 3rd world shithole now. Nobody has jobs or health insurance. People are shooting each other over pocket change. It's fucked up.

>>1724777
The countries economic systems were much more different than their political systems. It was a clash of economic systems, the varying political systems played no part in anything but propaganda.

>>1724781
Skeptic here, requesting facts.

>>1724806
LOL!

You are clearly a nigger.

>>1724806
Sounds pretty cool actually, Mad Max style.

>>1724779
Ok, desire and drive.

>>1724781

> my face when no one contends my point.


>>1724643

69% of the wealthiest people in America inherited one million dollars are more. From a study conducted by Forbes magazine.

http://www.faireconomy.org/press_room/1997/born_on_third_base_sources_of_wealth_of_1997_forbes_400

Meh, I can simplify this. Pick Capitalism or Communism.

No wait, we've already decided for you. It's going to be called Communitarianism. Kind of like Fascism but friendly towards the environment.

First the Jews and Arabs need to destroy each other, it might be awhile. also, people are waking up to our manipulations so things might not go as planned.

Pic related to human advancement over 5000 years.

>>1724861

> he doesn't realize that the washington memorial was built like that deliberately.

>>1724861
The fuck is the point of that pic?

>>1724881
Proves that Masons run the US.

>>1724823
>>Mad Max style

I'd rather live in Russia if I wanted to play Mad Max.

>>1724886

proves that masons built it

>>1724898

I thought the egyptian iconography was an illuminate trait?

>>1724886
It's an obelisk, there's no secret about it. The idea is based on the (real Egyptian) obelisk in Paris.

>>1724909
Protip: it's an Egyptian trait.

>He thinks Europe isn't run by a few corporations

>>1724927

protip; different cultures and belief systems can share similar traits.

>>1724935

> he thinks europe isn't ran by the un-educated masses.

>Completely ignores the Middle East and Africa

>>1724946
>run by the comparatively actually fairly well educated masses
fix'd

>>1724946
Yeah the Metropolitan police and government are commanded by the people.

>>1724953
What's there not to ignore? You think we'll adopt their tribal monkey style of government?

>>1724958
That is more true in Europe than anywhere else in the world.

>>1724956

> implying you have a choice about this kind of shit if you intend to be democratic.

>>1724987
You don't, but you can at least try to educate said masses.

>>1724993

>>1724969
I was being sarcastic, they will beat the living shit out of you given one little reason.

>>1724993

> implying the grand majority don't choose to remain uneducated.

I suppose you could say at least they're more educated than the average american, though.

>>1725000

> herp derp i hate the police herp derp Moat is a modern legend herp derp.

Shut up.

>>1725000
In America, yeah.

>>1725011
And in China.

Europe is still running off of the capital it built up first from raping Africa and then manipulating them into huge international debts. America likewise with South America. We (white people) have a tendency to bust up democratically elected governments and instate puppet rulers to pander to us. It all crashes when the welfare state eats itself inside out and the 3rd world stops paying our debts.
China wins.

>>1724636
>implying europe isn't blatantly better

>>1725029
>implying China isn't completely dependent on the US

>>1724630
BULLSHIT TROLL NEED ANSWERS!! HAIL BULLSHIT TROLLS

>>1725058
Why so mad?

>>1724630
Chinese here

Why do you stupid americans think you are our ally or you like us?

This is what is think, you know we own you, so to relief the humillation you want to believe we are on your side.

Pathetic americanst

>>1725151
Nobody is saying China and America are allies. The point is just that they have similar systems.

>>1725197
With world famous execution buses used on people who posses drugs and organ harvesting?

>>1725151
Jap here. sup China

>>1724630
>The 20th century was the battle between democracy, fascism and communism.

guess who won

>>1725505

> my face when the conflict took place primarily in europe.

Uhm, democracy, fascism and communism?

>>1725505
Fascism, evidently.

>>1725505
Democracy. You forgot to say "pic unrelated" btw.

>>1725520
>Implying that america is more fascist than modern germany or england

Of course, the republicans will argue the other way around. A good political tool to confuse the middle class white Americans.

bump

The battle of ideologies was between capitalism and communism, not between "democracy and something else".

Fascism is an advanced form of capitalism, developed when the system can no longer suppress the working class without excessive force.

lrn2 politics

>>1726132
That's not politics.

That's leftism.

>>1726132
lol sure is 50s communist propaganda in here.

>>1726139
You are a leftist.

>>1726132
It's between the centralisation and decentralisation of power.

Democracy is neerer capitalism. Commies are on the other side of the scale, near fascists.

>>1726147
What the fuck was that supposed to mean.

>>1726161
You're a liberal.

>>1726132
>Fascism
>collectivist
>an advanced form of capitalism,

>>1726173
And you're a republican conservative that doesn't know how to conserve.

>>1726181
Pick up a fucking text book.
Capitalism naturally moves to collectivism to stabilise itself. When taken to the highest level it becomes corporatism and then fascism.

>>1726155
>Democracy is neerer to capitalism than it is to an ideology with advocates democratic control of workplaces
Cool story, bro

>>1726196
>Capitalism naturally moves to collectivism to stabilise itself. When taken to the highest level it becomes corporatism and then fascism.

you will never find this in a text book ever because it's not true

Where you will find it is in the postulations of a long dead balding pedophile from the late 1800s

But the Communist Manifesto isn't a textbook.

>>1724630

>State resources are focused on the military
>US uses 3% of GDP on the military

Try again, faggot.

>>1726218
>Implying Fascism wasn't an emergency measure to protect private ownership in Spain, Germany, Italy, all other states that had strong communist movements...

>>1726230
>23% of the federal budget

Try again, faggot.

>>1726244
>implying it was

>implying private property rights shouldn't be defended

>implying "capitalism" leads "anywhere" by default

>implying Marx's theories haven't been resoundingly debunked throughout the decades while every nation founded on his principles has failed utterly

>implying you aren't a total fucking idiot

Unsubstantiated, jingoist slogans = fact

Evidence = communist propaganda

Sure smells like cold war in here. Enjoy your butt hurt imperialism fags when you cant stomp out the seed of hope in a tiny Caribbean nation, even after 60 years of trying.

>>1726251
fiscal spending does not = gdp you dumb shit

>>1726258
>Implying anyone cares what you think.
>Implying you shouldn't get back to work with the rest of the drones.

>>1726264
That's my point you retarded shit eating nigger.

>>1726251

I guess we can add "Poor schooling limits the ability of the general populace" to the European meritocracy list, then.

Now go back, and read my post.

>>1726260
>implying Cuba has any hope

>implying we've even been trying to stomp out hope in Cuba in the past 4 decades

>implying you aren't even more of a fucking idiot with that really flaccid fail post

>>1726264
A government can't "spend" its GDP, faggot.
>State resources are focused on the military and on providing services to the major corporations.
>state resources
Learn to read.

>>1726258
>Implying I implied other than Fascism being an emergency measure to protect private ownership
>Implying that's written anywhere by Marx, who died before fascism emerged even as a philosophy
>Implying Fascism didn't rise in Spain, Germany, Italy etc as a direct counter to the significant communist movements there.

>>1726265
>implying you aren't mad because you have no argument for what has been said

>Implyingimplyingimplyingimplyingimplyingimplyingimplyingimplying
>myface.jpg

>>1726268
oh the irony...

>>1726218
>you will never find this in a text book
and guess who writes the textbooks

>>1726277
Nice shirt. Did you get it at the Gap or what?

>>1726275
>>Implying I implied other than Fascism being an emergency measure to protect private ownership

Yeah this is not what happened you're an idiot.

Fascism was about nationalism and state supremacy, totalitarian control over the people.

It had little to do with private property in fact the Germans and the Italians both had very little care about the private property of anyone except the class in power at the time.

>>1726271
>Implying there haven't been constant assassination attempts on Castro and funding of exile groups to sabotage and agitate in Cuba since the revolution
>Implying there isn't an embargo in place designed to blackmail Cuba back into the USA's economic sphere

>>1726298
>Implying there haven't been constant assassination attempts on Castro and funding of exile groups to sabotage and agitate in Cuba since the revolution

>implying that you live in 1963

No really, you're an idiot

If America wanted Castro we could have him like we had Saddam

He's just an old hippy at this point, his people build boats out of styrofoam and old cars for a chance to come live here you act like he's even a concern of the United States anymore

The only time we cared about him was when he let the Ruskies put nukes on his island

>>1726297
>Implying nationalism, state supremacy and totalitarian control over the people aren't feasible emergency measures of protecting an economic system

> in fact the Germans and the Italians both had very little care about the private property of anyone except the class in power at the time.
>Implying this is any different than other capitalist nations

ITT: Libfags who don't know what fascism is

>>1726315
You are a libfag.

>>1726244
>confuses the ideology of fascism with the arguments they used to get the support of big business

http://www.miamiherald.com/2010/07/13/1729144/cuban-migrant-found-after-25-days.html

>A Cuban migrant who ostensibly floated at sea in the Florida Straits for 25 days aboard a seven-foot makeshift Styrofoam boat remained aboard a U.S. Coast Guard vessel Wednesday morning as American officials weighed whether to return him to Cuba or let him come ashore for hospital care.

SURE IS LOTS OF HOPE IN HERE

>>1726313
>implying you aren't at this point just ranting communist propaganda nonsense and that you haven't been effectively shut the fuck up on every level for your retardation

>>1726309
The CIA has admitted to over 600 assassination attempts on Castro, and actively funds Cuban exile terrorist groups.

>Implying the politics of Mexico don't matter to the US because some Mexicans immigrate to the US.

ITT:

>IMPLYING

>>1726339
>The CIA has admitted to over 600 assassination attempts on Castro

Sure they have because we all know the CIA goes around attempting assassinations and then admitting to it despite the fact that such behavior was outlawed under the Carter administration 30 plus years ago, which would leave them liable for criminal prosecution under Federal law

herp derp you're a fucking retard

>>1726333
Because Mexicans risk everything to come to the USA, capitalism, which is practised in Mexico, has obviously failed.

>implying Europe isn't a complete shithole
>Implying Europe doesn't buttfuck their citizens rights on a daily basis
>my face

>>1726351
>capitalism, which is practised in Mexico,

lol no

>>1726339
>The CIA has admitted to over 600 assassination attempts on Castro, and actively funds Cuban exile terrorist groups.

Everyone of which has FAILED!!!

Pic very related

>>1726347
>Implying the CIA follows laws
My bad, they didn't admit it, the guy tasked with protecting Castro counted 638 assassination attempts.

>>1726376
>the guy tasked with protecting Castro counted 638 assassination attempts.

Oh sorry lol I thought you meant someone I would take seriously had claimed over 600 failed assassination attempts by the CIA

You really have to be one big dumb motherfucker to think we would bother with the CIA to kill someone when we could simply plant a fucking missile in their bathroom while they take their morning shit from 1500 miles away

>>1726372
>implying Mexico doesn't have private ownership of the means of production

>>1726384
meant to point out particularly if we had failed several hundred times already

You'd think if we were serious about killing someone after the first 100 failed attempts we'd just invade, you know

Like we did with Saddam?

Or are you just this stupid to not get how fucking dumb you sound with this claim?

>>1726384
Yeah, because killing their president with a missile strike wouldn't give Cubans new solidarity against US imperialism that they wouldn't get with a mysterious death.

>>1726390
Ever heard of the Bay of Pigs?

I scroll this whole thread and don't even see a
KIROV REPORTING? For shame.

>>1726399
>Yeah, because killing their president with a missile strike wouldn't give Cubans new solidarity against US imperialism

>implying cuban "solidarity against US imperialism" (have to stop typing for a second until I stop laughing at how fucking retarded this sentence sounds) would matter if we wanted Cuba we'd reduce the island to cinders, plant some palm trees and open a resort built of the left over bones of the citizens of Cuba

>>1726405
Sounds delicious.

>>1726405
Yeah we really weren't trying that hard and that was in the 1960s

You have no idea what America's military is like today compared to back then

Main reason Bay of Pigs failed was because Kennedy had a weak spine and didn't back up the guys we trained like he said he would

>>1726411
Why doesn't the US reduce other countries it has qualms with to glass with missiles?

>>1726423
because we're actually the nice guys

>>1726384
So by your logic the CIA has not assassinated anyone, and all of the US's extra-judicial killing is carried out by missle? Can you explain why there is a CIA handbook for assassination?

Does it not occur to you the Us may not want to be officially linked to all these murders taking place around the world so they use techniques somewhat more subtle than big fucking explosions?

grow up moron

>>1726423

Because America isn't as bad as people make it out to be. Trust me, if America were really the bad guys, you'd probably know it by now because we'd be on your block, enforcing curfew.

>>1726435
Exactly, just because the US isn't 'bad' enough to reduce Cuba to glass doesn't mean they like the government in power there.

>>1726434
>So by your logic the CIA has not assassinated anyone

This is a fact

They tried a couple times, failed, and Carter made it illegal.

>and all of the US's extra-judicial killing is carried out by missle?

Predator Drones baby fuck yeah

>Can you explain why there is a CIA handbook for assassination?

Same reason there's an army field manual on that sort of shit. Government is in the business of being prepared, accumulating knowledge because knowledge is power.

Besides how can you avoid an assassination if you don't know how to think like an assassin?

>Does it not occur to you the Us may not want to be officially linked to all these murders taking place around the world so they use techniques somewhat more subtle than big fucking explosions?

Nope because we don't seem to have any problem with good old fashioned regular killing so why would that change for world leaders?

We got Saddam and had his own people sell out and hang his ass, why would we NEED assassination?

Herro pathetic americans

Why dont you fire your missire at us? It is because you know BEST KOREA wir crush you rike a fry!

Why you crying americans? Rerax! enjoy your nucrear butt fuck!

>>1726463
Oh Kimmy

How I wish for the day when you swing like Mussolini and Saddam

What a glorious day of television that will be

>>1726454
Just like they don't torture anyone because it's illegal?