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    34 KB China's scientific research quadruples while US, UK, Japan lose ground Anonymous 06/24/10(Thu)23:14 No.1461554  
    The report points out how the share of mature economies like Japan, the United States and Britain in the world's scientific literature is falling while developing states like China are muscling onto the scene.

    Japan produced 78,500 papers indexed by Thomson Reuters in 2009, up modestly from 72,000 in 2000, while China produced 125,000 papers in 2009, nearly fourfold from 2000.

    Despite its world-class universities, laboratories and Nobel prize winners, Japan's share of the world's research production slipped to 6.75 percent in 2009 from 9.45 percent in 2000.

    The same was seen in the United States, whose share fell to 28.5 percent in 2009 from 33.5 percent in 2000, while Britain's share fell to 7.68 percent from 9.43 percent within the same period.

    Japan's research is focused on physics and it produced around 54,800 papers between 2005 to 2009, or just over 11 percent of the total produced around the world on the discipline.

    http://www.reuters.com/article/idUSTRE65M05M20100623
    >> Anonymous 06/24/10(Thu)23:15 No.1461567
    Is this really any surprise? China has a billion people, it should have a lot more scientific papers being published than it currently has now.
    >> Anonymous 06/24/10(Thu)23:16 No.1461577
    Plus Asian-Americans are going back to Asian, leaving you with nothing but niggers and spics.

    America is finished.
    >> Anonymous 06/24/10(Thu)23:16 No.1461578
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    >> Anonymous 06/24/10(Thu)23:17 No.1461591
    >>1461577
    >Plus Asian-Americans are going back to Asian
    Really???? It seems to me that more and more Asians immigrate here.
    >> Anonymous 06/24/10(Thu)23:22 No.1461648
    >>1461591
    just the undesirable ones
    >> Anonymous 06/24/10(Thu)23:22 No.1461650
    I blame not just fundamentalism, but the rise in spirituality in general. People aren't interested in science in America, whether they are Christfags or the increasingly popular "spiritual but not religious" line, and you see New Agers everywhere nowadays. It doesn't help that the nerd stereotype runs strong in America, while most Asians I met in collage are proud and brag about intelligence.
    >> Anonymous 06/24/10(Thu)23:25 No.1461676
    Meh. China is notorious for plagiarism and stealing work from other people. Come back when they have a real scientific community and academic standards.
    >> Anonymous 06/24/10(Thu)23:26 No.1461692
    >>1461578

    Someone post this on /sci/
    They love this kind of stuff
    >> Anonymous 06/24/10(Thu)23:27 No.1461705
    The reason why the Chinese are so far ahead in the Sciences is because they're frantically looking for a solution to that flat-faced problem of theres ... rather than the other nations...
    >> Anonymous 06/24/10(Thu)23:28 No.1461714
    A lot of China's research is just plagarism.
    >> Anonymous 06/24/10(Thu)23:29 No.1461730
    I remember some months ago that they "inveted anti-gravity" and it was all proven bullshit.
    >> Anonymous 06/24/10(Thu)23:31 No.1461747
    China has a much larger population which means proportionally more scientists.
    >> StormTroll !GnYU8vo7lA 06/24/10(Thu)23:32 No.1461750
    >>1461650
    That's because you're an ignorant bigot. It has nothing to do with Jesusfags. Religion in this country has been on a constant downturn. It has to do with a shitty economy and less money for the government to dole out to research groups.
    >> Anonymous 06/24/10(Thu)23:34 No.1461771
    >>1461750
    He has a point, thing is that both countries have handicaps, the USA has religious dolts who think that reading a science book will send you straight to hell and China has a huge ammount of robots whose only work is to make plastic waterguns.
    >> Anonymous 06/24/10(Thu)23:34 No.1461772
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    Another glorious victory for the United States of America. We have succeeded in defeating the mad dictator Mao and brought capitalism to China, so that the billions there may enjoy the freedom prosperity of an American way of life and stop over-rating their own strange culture.

    From now on the credit for all their achievements go directly to the Americawesome.
    >> Anonymous 06/24/10(Thu)23:41 No.1461834
    China is a fine example why having a population in which atheists are the majority truly brings your country ahead.
    >> Anonymous 06/24/10(Thu)23:48 No.1461887
    It's good to have a huge population. Breed moar
    >> Anonymous 06/24/10(Thu)23:49 No.1461902
    >>1461887
    China still has a one child policy since even their own farms can't feed their whole population and they import food too.
    >> Anonymous 06/24/10(Thu)23:54 No.1461940
    CHINA STRONG
    EVERYTHING WILL BE INVENTED IN CHINA AGAIN
    >> Anonymous 06/25/10(Fri)00:28 No.1462225
    yeah we suck, we know
    China is filing patents like a fucker too
    >> Anonymous 06/25/10(Fri)00:29 No.1462235
    China's economy has no legs.

    This won't mean as much once the bubble bursts and their entire fraudulent system comes crashing down.
    >> Anonymous 06/25/10(Fri)00:32 No.1462253
    >>1462235
    Protip: no bubble will stop China. Just delay them a few years. But I guess a few years is the extent of American foresight.
    >> Anonymous 06/25/10(Fri)00:38 No.1462299
    >>1462253
    From what little knowledge I have about chinese banking as compared to western banking, I agree. I think china's monetary tools are a lot more disruptive and effective in cases.
    >> Anonymous 06/25/10(Fri)00:38 No.1462303
    It's easy to quadruple your research when you had 0 to begin with.

    Also good for them.
    >> Anonymous 06/25/10(Fri)00:38 No.1462306
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    we WOULD do more research however....there is a lack of funding due to a few things
    a) shitty economy
    b) huge debt with no one in govt wanting to give out grants (hurr durr we dont need fruit fly studies)
    c) fundamentalists thinking anything science related will send you to hell
    d) being smart and into science is considered socially undesirable in the US.
    >> Anonymous 06/25/10(Fri)00:41 No.1462328
    >>1462299
    >>1462253
    >samefag chicom agreeing with himself

    Good to hear
    >> Anonymous 06/25/10(Fri)00:43 No.1462340
    >>1462328
    wow, it had to be /new/ who first ever accuses me on 4chan of same faggin
    >> Anonymous 06/25/10(Fri)09:44 No.1466182
    There's a difference between research and good research...
    >> Anonymous 06/25/10(Fri)09:47 No.1466203
    THIS IS ABSOLUTELY FUCKING RIDICULOUS!

    America was far more religious 50-100 years ago than now. Blaming this on fundamentalists is beyond retard tier
    >> Anonymous 06/25/10(Fri)09:47 No.1466208
    America can't waste money on those stupid school kids anymore.
    >> Anonymous 06/25/10(Fri)09:51 No.1466235
    >>1466208

    the school system? lolwut
    >> Anonymous 06/25/10(Fri)09:52 No.1466242
    >>1461554
    Not hard to quadruple slim-to-nothing.
    >> Anonymous 06/25/10(Fri)09:54 No.1466251
    >>1466203
    Some one knows nothing about the Cold War and his post number ends in 3.
    >> Anonymous 06/25/10(Fri)09:54 No.1466255
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    >>1462306
    >c) fundamentalists thinking anything science related will send you to hell
    >d) being smart and into science is considered socially undesirable in the US.
    >> Anonymous 06/25/10(Fri)09:57 No.1466275
    The number of papers submitted tells us nothing about the quality of research actually produced.
    >> Anonymous 06/25/10(Fri)09:58 No.1466282
    About the US's scientific research - Just look at the race/ethnicity of the people who make up the R&D in the US.

    They are all Asian (ie Chinese). So not only the Chinese producing scientific research in China but in the US also.
    >> Anonymous 06/25/10(Fri)10:02 No.1466307
    >>1461692

    Done
    >> China scientists lead world in research growth Anonymous 06/25/10(Fri)10:02 No.1466311
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    China scientists lead world in research growth
    ==============
    "China has experienced the strongest growth in scientific research over the past three decades of any country, according to figures compiled for the Financial Times, and the pace shows no sign of slowing.
    Jonathan Adams, research evaluation director at Thomson Reuters, said China’s awe-inspiring growth had put it in second place to the US and if it continues on its trajectory it will be the largest producer of scientific knowledge by 2020."

    www.ft.com/cms/s/0/7ef3097e-09da-11df-8b23-00144feabdc0.html
    >> Anonymous 06/25/10(Fri)10:08 No.1466348
    They're fucking overpopulating!
    >> Anonymous 06/25/10(Fri)10:09 No.1466359
    Of those 78500 Japanese papers, 78000 are BS to raise the # papers written count. Of those 125000 Chinatown papers, 125000 are BS. Paper count means nothing. You can write the same paper and send it to 20 journals to boost your count 20 fold.
    >> Anonymous 06/25/10(Fri)10:11 No.1466370
    A few years ago in my final semester at college one of my professors made me aware that engineering enrollment was down to like 25% of what it was when I entered. I'm sure it was similar across other sciences.
    >> Anonymous 06/25/10(Fri)10:12 No.1466375
    >>1466182
    All of America's "good reasearch" died with the creation of creationism.
    >> Anonymous 06/25/10(Fri)10:12 No.1466380
    >>1466359
    these are peer-reviewed scientific research and NOT some shit anon posts on their blogspot.
    >> Anonymous 06/25/10(Fri)10:14 No.1466385
    >>1466375
    it died in the 17th century?
    >> Anonymous 06/25/10(Fri)10:17 No.1466416
    >>1466380
    The standard required for publication in Chinese academic journals is not comparable to the standards required in the West. The fact that some fag gets shit printed in a journal doesn't give us any indication that it was worthwhile.
    >> Anonymous 06/25/10(Fri)10:17 No.1466421
    >China's scientific research quadruples

    >China's theft of white science quadruples

    fixed
    >> Anonymous 06/25/10(Fri)10:18 No.1466425
    China is the future, feels bad man, i say kill all chavs kill all muslims then work more.
    >> Anonymous 06/25/10(Fri)10:18 No.1466427
    >>1466311

    >US papers: 332,916
    >Chinese papers: 112,318
    >it'll take the Chinese another 15 years to get to the point where they're at the US level of publishing stuff...right now
    >the argument is axiomatically grounded in the US or EU not doing anything for the next several decades
    >> Anonymous 06/25/10(Fri)10:20 No.1466447
    >>1466375
    >implying creationism isnt over 9000 years old
    >> Anonymous 06/25/10(Fri)10:25 No.1466477
    >>1466427
    >US or EU not doing anything

    the US or EU wont be doing anything, they will be doing something ... they will falling in research. As the US and EU lessen in their influence/wealth in the world, so will their research.
    While China soars ...
    >> Anonymous 06/25/10(Fri)10:30 No.1466513
    >>1466477

    You're misreading that graph, my friend. There were over 300,000 papers produced in the US in 2008. That number is a 240-ish increase of last years production. Not only is that graph still trending upwards for the US, it's showing that the US could actually afford to reduce research and science spending for several years before it declined to Chinese levels of production. Except the budget for science and research in the US is going up next year, not down.
    >> Anonymous 06/25/10(Fri)11:07 No.1466772
    Enjoy your creationists and religious zealots, America.
    >> Anonymous 06/25/10(Fri)11:09 No.1466779
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    >>1466477

    The influence of EU will increase and not decrease, so will the science.

    pic related, CERN.
    >> Anonymous 06/25/10(Fri)11:09 No.1466781
    >>1466772
    >Derp.jpg
    >> Anonymous 06/25/10(Fri)11:11 No.1466794
    lol China hasn't figured out how to make a jet engine yet.
    Yawn.
    >> Anonymous 06/25/10(Fri)11:12 No.1466802
    >>1461554
    Papers mean nothing.

    What concrete scientific discovery or theory has come out of chinese intellegensia

    OH THATS RIGHT, ABSOLUTLEY NOTHING

    China will not sustain its growth past the decade. Have fun crashing and burning.
    >> Anonymous 06/25/10(Fri)11:12 No.1466805
    >>1466779
    EU will fall soon, so your point is invalid, try again.
    >> Anonymous 06/25/10(Fri)11:14 No.1466816
    >>1461591
    >Really???? It seems to me that more and more Asians immigrate here.

    Most of the asians immigrating are the shit tier asians, indians, flips, viets etc...

    The Koreans, Japs and Chinese are leaving enmasse

    http://www.nytimes.com/2010/01/07/world/asia/07scholar.html

    Fighting Trend, China Is Luring Scientists Home
    >> Anonymous 06/25/10(Fri)11:15 No.1466827
    >>1466816
    >Implying anyone refers to indians as "asian"
    >> Anonymous 06/25/10(Fri)11:15 No.1466828
    >>1466816
    dont know what you are smoking at my college (Purdue), its Koreans and Chinese everywhere, and they also suck at engineering, they can learn yea, but they have no creativity and imagination
    >> Anonymous 06/25/10(Fri)11:17 No.1466837
    >>1466805

    Oh really? Is that what your American media tells you?

    Don't forget to swallow to, least you choke.
    >> Anonymous 06/25/10(Fri)11:17 No.1466841
    >>1466816
    Good.

    Stay the fuck out.
    >> Anonymous 06/25/10(Fri)11:17 No.1466842
    >>1466816

    >Chinese are leaving en masse
    >cites an article entitled "Fighting Trend, China is Luring Scientists Home"
    >Trend
    >China is fighting this trend
    >That means the trend is for scientists to come to the US

    I know you've spent most of your time learning Mandarin, but you might want to pick up some basic English so you don't look stupid while supporting China.
    >> Anonymous 06/25/10(Fri)11:19 No.1466856
    >>1466816
    >Chinese leaving en masse

    imokwiththis.jpg
    >> Anonymous 06/25/10(Fri)11:24 No.1466887
    HAHA you guys are fucking wrong, most of the USA papers are worthless social science papers like "WHY THE WORLD SO RACIST AGAINST BLACKS" etc.... Most of the papers in China are HARDCORE MAD SCIENCE
    http://www.dailytech.com/China+Teleports+Photons+10+Miles+Surpasses+USEuropean+Record/article18551.h
    tm


    China Teleports Photons 10 Miles, Surpasses U.S./European Record
    >> Anonymous 06/25/10(Fri)11:25 No.1466901
    >>1466887
    China has beat the world in making the first 10 but quantum computer

    http://www.nanowerk.com/news/newsid=16316.php

    (Nanowerk News) Ten-qubit hyper-entangled Schrödinger cat state was successfully generated recently by a research group from the Quantum Physics and Quantum Information (QPQI) Division of the Hefei National Laboratory for Physical Sciences at Microscale at the University of Science and Technology of China. The created state has the number of entangled quantum bits up to 10, breaking a world record of entangled state preparation. Meanwhile, they also utilized the Schrödinger cat state to demonstrate ultra-fine phase measurement.
    >> Anonymous 06/25/10(Fri)11:26 No.1466904
    Hey, the chinese are at least human beings. They all suck at driving, have absolutely no social grace, and most don't shower, but they're better than the fucking Indians (dot not feather).
    >> Anonymous 06/25/10(Fri)11:29 No.1466926
    If the Chinese are so smart, then why do they still live in China?
    >> Anonymous 06/25/10(Fri)11:33 No.1466954
    >>1466887
    >most of the USA papers are worthless social science papers like "WHY THE WORLD SO RACIST AGAINST BLACKS"

    I lol'd pretty sad especially since a lot of these social scientists think that they are on the same level as a chemist of physicist
    >> Anonymous 06/25/10(Fri)11:37 No.1466971
    >>1466954
    Its true, China produces more nanotechnology papers than any other country

    China now produces more papers on nanotech than any other nation. Nanotech plants have sprung up in cities from Beijing in the north to Shenzhen in the south, working on products including exhaust-absorbing tarmac and carbon nanotube-coated clothes that can monitor health. Last month, researchers from Nanjing University and colleagues from New York University unveiled a two-armed nanorobot that can alter genetic code. It enables the creation of new DNA structures, and could be turned into a factory for assembling the building blocks of new materials.
    >> Anonymous 06/25/10(Fri)11:38 No.1466981
    It's just little yellow monkeys and keyboards. If you had a billion more they might even come up with a joke.
    >> Anonymous 06/25/10(Fri)11:39 No.1466983
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    >>1466971
    Nanotechnology papers by author

    This is just complete ownage.....
    >> Anonymous 06/25/10(Fri)11:41 No.1466999
    Time to start learning dat mandarin
    >> Anonymous 06/25/10(Fri)11:42 No.1467006
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    >> Anonymous 06/25/10(Fri)11:45 No.1467016
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    >> Anonymous 06/25/10(Fri)11:45 No.1467018
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    CHINA STRONG
    >> Anonymous 06/25/10(Fri)11:46 No.1467019
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    I love those My Asian Shithole Strong threads.

    iPeds everywhere.
    >> Anonymous 06/25/10(Fri)11:47 No.1467027
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    >> Anonymous 06/25/10(Fri)11:48 No.1467034
    Hate to tell everyone sucking china's dick, but the sort of standards of academic integrity in china is non-existent.

    Papers are often stolen, or worse, completely made up. Peer reviewed means little when the reviewers don't give a shit. Peer review (especially sloppy peer review) just means the science looks legit at first glance, nothing more nothing less.

    I'll be afraid of china when their country stops being a black hole of poverty, immorality, and just overall disgusting behavior.
    >> Anonymous 06/25/10(Fri)11:48 No.1467036
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    >> Anonymous 06/25/10(Fri)11:51 No.1467051
    Wheres your master race now?

    http://leadenergy.org/2010/01/asia-challenges-usa-leadership/

    This “state of the union” for science and technology comes amidst growing concern that Asia is out-competing the U.S. in the burgeoning global clean-tech sector. According to the “Rising Tigers, Sleeping Giant” report I recently co-authored with the Breakthrough Institute and Information Technology & Innovation Foundation, China, Japan, and South Korea have already surpassed the U.S. in the production of nearly all clean energy technologies, and these governments are expected to out-invest the U.S. three-to-one in this industry over the next five years. As U.S. Secretary of Energy Steven Chu recently said, “The world is passing us by. We are falling behind in the clean energy race.”
    >> Anonymous 06/25/10(Fri)11:54 No.1467075
    >>1461730
    and it's just the start, just wait till they gain more confidence and enjoy old esotericism resurfacing to counterbalance 80 years of drone like behaviour.
    they want to impress everyone, like nazi Germans once did. i can't wait to see the first cross breed between a man, a bear and a pig.
    >> Anonymous 06/25/10(Fri)11:54 No.1467076
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    Sure is some Chinabot here.
    >> Anonymous 06/25/10(Fri)11:56 No.1467089
    CHINA WILL GROW BIGGER
    >> Anonymous 06/25/10(Fri)11:56 No.1467092
    http://www.nytimes.com/2010/01/07/world/asia/07scholar.html


    Chinese students continue to leave in droves. Nearly 180,000 left in 2008, almost 25 percent more than in 2007, as more families were able to pay overseas tuition. For every four students who left in the past decade, only one returned, Chinese government statistics show. Those who obtained science or engineering doctorates from American universities were among the least likely to return.

    Recently, though, China has begun to exert a reverse pull. In the past three years, renowned scientists like Dr. Shi have begun to trickle back. And they are returning with a mission: to shake up China’s scientific culture of cronyism and mediocrity, often cited as its biggest impediment to scientific achievement.
    >> Anonymous 06/25/10(Fri)11:59 No.1467101
    yeah, iped everywhere...
    >> Anonymous 06/25/10(Fri)12:03 No.1467116
    >My face when pro-China anons show amazing growth expressed as percentages without realizing that the US still out-researches and out-produces China by large margins
    >> Anonymous 06/25/10(Fri)12:03 No.1467117
    >>1467092
    Enjoy your chinese spies
    >> Anonymous 06/25/10(Fri)12:06 No.1467125
    >>1467116
    >>1467116
    >that the US still out-researches and out-produces China by large margins

    In social science papers maybe, but not in key areas like quantum physics and nanotechnology

    >>1466983
    >> Anonymous 06/25/10(Fri)12:07 No.1467139
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    >>1467089

    Building the chinese empire

    also build more overlord tanks
    >> Anonymous 06/25/10(Fri)12:08 No.1467145
    This article is implying that US research is going down, which isn't true at all
    >> Anonymous 06/25/10(Fri)12:09 No.1467148
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    >>1467139
    CNC Generals was a prediction for the future, not a satirical parody
    >> Anonymous 06/25/10(Fri)12:10 No.1467155
    >>1467145
    USA papers are a portion of the world's total is going down, USA is falling behind Europe and Asia
    >> Anonymous 06/25/10(Fri)12:11 No.1467158
    >>1467148

    and "i need shoes" GLA will be Iran? Or a united middle east?
    >> Anonymous 06/25/10(Fri)12:12 No.1467164
    >>1467125

    No, not just in social sciences. All of this stuff is completely unsourced material except for the quantum computer and quantum teleportation articles. Those are cool as fuck, by the way.
    >> Anonymous 06/25/10(Fri)12:13 No.1467165
    >>1467155
    the USA has had a stronger research oriented academeic culture for decades, it's about time that europeans and chinese got their act together.
    >> Anonymous 06/25/10(Fri)12:13 No.1467166
    http://godism.blogspot.com/2008/04/newbies-guide-to-pro-china-internet.html
    >> Anonymous 06/25/10(Fri)12:13 No.1467169
    >>1466887

    Europe is busy with other stuff, like nuclear fission and fusion.
    >> Anonymous 06/25/10(Fri)12:19 No.1467204
    >>1467166
    i fell asleep reading that
    >> Anonymous 06/25/10(Fri)12:20 No.1467210
    >>1467166
    >ism

    nigga you just went full retard
    >> Anonymous 06/25/10(Fri)12:28 No.1467268
    >>1467158
    This has fueled hopes that the KALI could, one day be used in a High-Power Microwave gun, which could destroy incoming missiles and aircraft through soft-kill (destroying the electronic circuitry on the missile). However, weaponising such a system has many obstacles to overcome.

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/KALI_%28laser%29

    GLA WILL BE INDIA
    >> Anonymous 06/25/10(Fri)12:32 No.1467298
    >>1467268
    OMG FUCKING DEATH RAYS

    INDIA TIGER IS STRONG
    >> Anonymous 06/25/10(Fri)12:35 No.1467314
    >>1467268

    awesome



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