All sane people are aware that multi-culturalism is a communist plot by the elites to undermine white society.

evil ideology consisting of Genocide, cultural destruction, Eugenics, Rampant Capitalism, Rampant Communism.
Breaks nearly every Human rights law invented by the UN. Covered up and pushed by a media that is a mouth piece for Far-left political parties through out the west.

Shit idea is shit

It has backfired on every country who as adopted it

Guess which civilizations are the strongest and most enduring throughout history? (:

"diversity is strength"

i really hate calling this or that communist or liberal whatever, but theres really no other explanation i can think of when it comes to this egalitarian fiction people keep spewing which has no basis in reality

>>130566

Yeah, USA totally isn't the sole remaining superpower.

dead issue right now.

we have to stop communism and socialism from engulfing the world imho.

>>130535
There are no benefits to multiculturalism

mass immigration solution = Mass deportation.

This would if anything benefit 3rd world countries who will recieve a flood of skilled labour.

>>130581
How long do you think it'll last with all your ethnic divisions?

>>130630

More than your third world shithole.

Multicultural countries are the best in the world, just look at South Africa, Kosovo, Brazil, Rwanda... oh wait

the races aren't mixing, multiculturalism has failed
the sooner liberals can admit this, the sooner we can get indefinite moratoria on immigration (maybe send back a few immigrants as well)

>>130630

It'll last as long as America remains willing to absorb the "brain drain" from other countries. Such as China for, instance.

>>130636
>>130658
Seems to me we've been around a lot longer. And we're coming back. Enjoy your niggers.

Multiculturalism is only as strong as the cultures in a society that wish to contribute to the idea.

You cant just put people of totally different cultures and values together and tell them they have to get along - it's retarded.

Anyway, this crap was more or less forced onto the West after the war. There where always small communities and that but this *lie* you hear of "we where always very multicultural and if you dont like it you are racist" is exactly that, a lie.

Always had some other culture around in some tiny amount /=/ Always Multicultural society

>>130581

America has done it better than most countries. America has said "We welcome you and your beliefs, but you are now Americans and need to assimilate"

>>130658
The whole brain drain thing doesn't happen much anymore. And for the most part is not actually beneficial for us.

>>130533
Why must you stupid guys constantly spam and attack www . anon
talk . com for? Please stop. We don't want any chanturds there.

>>130666

> we're coming back
> coming back

To "come back" one must have actually been there before.

Sorry bro, but your country has never been anything but a mass of piss poor peasant farmers slaving away for generations only to be wiped out en masse by yet another natural disaster. Meanwhile, your emperor just sits on his mountain and fucks whoever he wants.

To "come back" you're going to have to do more than a command economy that relies on an ever increasing amount of capital and resources to produce a single unit of output. Learn about how economies that gain GDP through increasing inputs rather than efficiency are doomed, learn how it applies to China, and learn why you have nothing to feel proud about.

http://images.google.com/images?gbv=1&hl=en&sa=1&q=multiculturalism&btnG=Search

The only people who dislike the idea are fat white basement dwellers who's only "achievement"in life is that they were born white. They have to fight as hard as possible on the internet to prevent multiculturalism from happening!

Multiculturalism is the inevitable future of the human species. If you don't see how this is good for humanity then I feel sorry for you. The only people I can see remaining pure are black Africans since they will be marginalized and no one will want to mate with them when the other races take over most of their countries again.

>>130719
obvious troll is obvious

>>130688

Like hell it doesn't.
All sorts of higher educated second/third world people come to america to get a decent job in their field.
Poor mexicans entering the country changes nothing since they will MAYBE take away shitty jobs that white trash holds.

>>130705 Implying China hasn't been on top for almost all of human history

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Economic_history_of_china

Learn some history brah

>>130719 inevitable future of the human species outside of east china
fix'd

>>130666
The asian fella is right, the west is experiencing a massive demographic transition due to low birth rates, brown people flooding in and interbreeding. Once the native population is replaced or marginalized, the west will probably collapse or at the very least lose its "exceptionalism".

>>130728 east asia
oop, my mistake

>>130728

> Implying there was even such a thing as "top" before Modern times.

I like it.

>>130719

seems like mutli culturalism is only a one way thing. people from countries that are 99% muslim are pouring into europe.

Christians are horribly oppressed in egypt. muslims should not be allowed in europe because their homelands suck and soon europe will suck just like them.

>>130737
>>130728
Nah you east asians idolize western looks. As your country's conservative generations die out and business expands more people of other races will began to move in and out of east asia diluting the fuck out of your gene pool. T

>>130728
Enjoy your man to woman ratio that guarantees a large homosexual population.

>>130745

Everyone's moving toward the money. The people with concentrated wealth are blaming it on the poor. The poor are blaming it on those with concentrated wealth for withholding the quality of life which, admittedly, we possess the power to distribute to all.

I say we, because as a person typing on a computer with internet, comfortably, I think that most of us fall into the priviledged class.

>>130705

While I agree China's doomed, calling the PRC a command economy is hilarious. Also basing your country's GDP growth on manufacturing stuff to sell to other countries is the only real way to do it.

China's toast because the one-child policy is, over the next two decades, going to wreak a demographic nightmare on the country that will be unequaled in Chinese history. One worker for every three seniors? We're panicking here because we might end up with one-point-five workers for every one senior. They're going to have to either mass-cull their senior population or tax their workers to death. And then there's the fact that infanticide has skewed their young population heavily towards males, which means that entire generation is going to reproduce like a much smaller group of people. You're looking at contracting the population by a few hundred million over a generation, and you just can't inflict that sort of trauma on a society without breaking it.

Oh, and once there's more work than people to do it, wages are going to have to go up. It's what happened in Europe after the Black Death -- and China's entire export strategy is predicated on having the cheapest skilled labor in the world.

Multiculturalism: Still ruining Canada as I type this

>>130745
Stop buying into propaganda bro. In a modern society extremist fundamentalists or people who live behind modern ideals can never really change anything significantly (the exception being that they had always existed like in the US or Muslim countries). Muslim extremists are hated by everyone but themselves, the second generations of modern or secular middle eastern people will be the ones who will integrate and change your society into something not so different than it was before.

>>130757
Yes this is really quite interesting and bizarre but countries like japan and china theres is a clear preferance for "white" looks and culture. I've seen japanese mixed singers who look more swedish then swedes ie that singer called lufkin. They seem to be gradually aquiring white genes from interracial partnerships and pushing these people to the top of their societies.(ie lonely intelligent neckbeards shunned by the west snapped up by asian women and creating smart attractive offspring)
Also who can ignore the fact every asian kid is taught to play classical european music as soon as they are born.
I predict the upper classes of these countries will resemble Northern europeans within a few hundred years and could very well be the new Europeans.

ITT Whiteys scared of superior minorities


Why else would you bitch so much.

>>130738
Why wouldn't there be?
>>130757
Conservative generations don't die out in Asia, not even in developed places like Japan. Immigration will just be turned down at the border, thanks. And China will never need immigration. It is Chinese genes that will progress into the world gene pool, not the other way around. Earth can only become more Chinese.

>>130768
Seniors will just die with no one to care for them. It's not pretty, most people wouldn't like it, but if it came down to that then that's what'll happen. And the export dependency argument is a real joke. All developing countries have been export dependent, including the US. Once they're richer, they diversify and domestic consumption grows. In 30 years, Chinese companies will dominate the market just like American and Japanese companies do today.

>>130688

> China suffers the worst brain drain in the world, according to a new study that found seven out of every 10 students who enroll in an overseas university never return to live in their homeland.

http://www.buzzle.com/articles/140075.html

>>130808
So true talk to any chinese student in china and they will tell you all they want to do is to go to america etc.

>>130788 implying that mix-breeding with foreigners is at all significant in any Asian society
Even the very few that do will be assimilated into the Asian culture and gene pool. Just like the last 4,000 years.
It is true we have more affinity for European classical music than even Europeans. It's good stuff, I'll grant you that. Too bad whites are too busy listening to techno and nigger music these days.

>>130808
Not a problem, 90% of overseas Chinese remain loyal to China.

>>130817
Actually Chinese and japanese governments both record wether people have "british blood" for instance and regard this as an advantageous trait.

>>130768
The wages would have already gone up China artificially keeps there money weaker to be competitive.

>>130792

> Why wouldn't there be?

Because the world was so disconnected. A person living in Britain in the 11th century had almost no relationship with China, in any sense of the word, and vice versa. All you can really claim is that China was the dominate power in East Asia for a very long time and that East Asia, due to its raw numbers of people, was a very important region. But before the Europeans(and the Arabs to a lesser extent before them) started venturing out to explore the world, earth was divided into separate spheres that overlapped little. Even the much vaunted silk trade was barely relevant compared to huge burst of globalization that followed it.

The modern world began when the Europeans started branching out and mapping the planet, tying people together(whether they wanted it or not). Before that was the ancient world, with a completely different model and understanding.

>>130790
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Invasive_species

Why stop getting rid of mexicans?

This country has been going down hill since he started letting in the eastern hoards at the turn of the century. Kick the slav and pollock scum out.

It always makes me lulz when i see someone from an eastern european background complaining about either multiculturalism or immigration. Such fucking twats.

>>130822

*citation needed*

>>130829
I'm gonna need a source for that
>>130838
Yet out of all those isolated spheres, China emerged the most powerful and prosperous
>>130846
Oh, you don't have to believe me if you don't want. But we will see.

>>130838
Yes for instance 99% of white people wouldnt have known blacks to exist. As there were no blacks in europe and the majority of europeans wouldn't have traveled out of their province in their lifetime.

>>130840
Just free market competition donkey fucker.

>>130858

No, China emerged bloated, inefficient and waiting to be fucked over by the West. Its massive bureaucracy too insular and backwards to see how it was being completely left in the dust. And my how things never seem to change. The government completely obsessed over bottom line statistics like GDP without considering that a growth model cannot be sustained indefinitely. Oh yeah, they talk about it. But they are doing nothing to fix things.

Its overly centralized nature will always be its undoing. The government was and is good at mobilizing huge numbers of people and resources, but from the beginning of China's reforms until present statistics, there has been very little increase in economic efficiency. Increasing education and stealing industrial techniques from foreigners do not count, as those economic innovations already existed. Manufacturing batteries and solar panels instead of toy trinkets also do not count, as this is just moving up the value chain. Eventually, the time will come(and it looks to be coming soon with the declining numbers of people moving from the countryside to the cities) where it won't be able to rely on the same old same old, and then it'll be fucked yet again.

>>130892
In that case, war is just free market competition and genocide should be promoted because if you can beat a country in war you are biologically fitter.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fitness_%28biology%29

> Oh, you don't have to believe me if you don't want. But we will see.

The 1st generation immigrants, maybe if I want to put a tin foil hat on. But their children are more or less completely westernized and feel much less kinship with that shithole to the East.

>>130535
shit

>>130926
Is that why your white women can't get of my dick peckerwood.

>>130921
Just like it has for the last few millennia? Economic efficiency and domestic innovation will come as the GDP climbs. But you may continue to believe that current trends never change. The West only caught us at a bad time during Manchu rule. The Han-governed Ming was on its way to an industrial revolution two centuries before Europe.

>>130951
>to overweight to get off.

>>130951
Yes, white women can't get enough of your dick because war is justifiable using free market competition logic.

>>130962
>Blames all of China's problems to foreigners.points out Han superiority
Fascism ,anyone?

>>130962

But that's sort of China's fucking deal. They progress through golden ages like a motherfucker and change the goddamn world, then some dick of an emperor comes in and says "lol, no."

>>130977
>isolationist china
>changes the world
you make me laff.

>>130976
Not interested in your -isms. Maybe if the Mongols and Manchus ruled wisely and didn't slow advancement so much I wouldn't find them inferior.

>>130962

> Economic efficiency and domestic innovation will come as the GDP climbs

This is what the Asians always say. But time and again, whenever they run out of people to mobilize, whenever they stop being able to acquire ever higher amounts of capital and resources, their economies always slow down. When Japan couldn't ram any more input into their economic model, they ran out of gas. Same with Singapore, same with (increasingly)South Korea. All of them have managed to turn around cause they are now ramming Chinese people through their economic model, thus increasing economic input, but the underlying problem still remains.

> you may continue to believe that current trends never change

I don't believe this, bro. Trends can change, but until there is a step in the right direction, there is not reason to believe it is destined to.

> The Han-governed Ming was on its way to an industrial revolution

Ah, Han Chauvinism. If only hanbots were in charge, things would have been different. Bro, it was the Ming that slammed China's door to the world, not the Qing. And claiming China was headed to an industrial revolution again ignores China's basic problem: that it is too focused on mobilizing more manpower and resources to tackle problems, rather than innovative thinking.

>>130999

This is my point you fuckwit. China goes through cycles of globalist expansion too. Don't worry; I have full confidence in China's ability to fuck their position as an emerging dragon up.

>>130969
No it dosen't it only brings up more questions. Like what is the value of a black man to a woman. In all seriousness the middle class woman stands nothing to benefit from associating with an underclass black.
It's an Artificially created fashion trend.

>>131000
>continues judging on racial divides.denounces totalitarian forms of government while his country is having one right now.

>>131008
> China ...cycles of globalist expansion.
I'm sorry what the fuck are you talking about.

>>131004 Comparing China with tiny states
That describes just about every economy. There is a limit to growth, I'm not denying that, but China isn't going to run out of manpower bro. By the time all or even a large portion of Chinese are employed in a profitable industry it would already be by far the largest economy.

>>130962

>The Han-governed Ming was on its way to an industrial revolution
>industrial revolution
>a country the size of China
>no need to innovate, can simply access unused territories of land to enlarge economy
>conducive to creating industry

You so silly, Chinabot.

I don't give a flying fuck about your culture.

>>131016
Yes, your point?

>>130658
>"brain drain"

You heard it here first guys, all those Mexican scientists jumping the border fence are going to make America great again!

>>130962
You mother fucking hong choing chong bitches weren't on the road to anywhere. That is why Matthew C. Perry steamed in on those Jap fucks and all of the asianfails knew they were screwed.

>>131047
That is pretty uninformed, as China led the pack in innovation until the British Empire. Not to mention most of the arable land in East Asian has always been under Chinese control.

>>131073 Implying Japan and Perry has anything to do with China
Or could it be that like many westerners, you don't realize there's an Asia outside Japan?

>>131077
hahaha wtf china led in inovation. Haha seriously. Are you a chinese propagandarist?

I'm White but by fuck I love watching Chinese teach White Libtards a lesson.

It's funny because they immediately resort to throwing around the word 'chink' and shit like that, even though they tread on eggshells around niggers and lionize them. The reality is that White Liberals only agree with a pervasive, Orwellian attitude towards racial epithets when it applies to niggers, because niggers are the most pitiable 'human' race on the planet, and liberalism is an entire ideology built on false empathy and compassion.

>>131042

> China isn't going to run out of manpower bro

*Sigh* The silly Chinese think basic economics don't apply to them.

> it would already be by far the largest economy

Do you really think this is relevant in any way? You are way too focused on GDP. Why can't you understand that GDP is only part of the picture? There are two basic ways an economy can generate more output:

1. Increase the amount of input(people, raw materials, factories, buildings, etc.)
2. Increasing the amount of output generated per unit of input

What the Asian economies do so well is #1. What they do not do well is #2. Therefore, common sense dictates that, over time, they will have to keep increasing input more and more on an exponential scale or their entire growth model will collapse.

You seem to think that China having the largest GDP in the world somehow means something. Why is really that different from a prestige perspective than having the 2nd largest GDP?

Eventually the Asians will run out of sources for economic input and when they do, they'll be looking at the West wondering why they are getting left in the dust yet again.

>>131077

You don't understand the basic prerequisites to create industrialism. You need to have a NEED for industry, it's not like a goddamn RTS where someone says "omg need to tech to industrial era now." The only way any country would need industrial techniques would be due to a lack of resources and/or an inability to enlarge their existing economic structure. This is why industry popped up in England as opposed to say, France. If Japan had had iron, oil, or coal worth two shits they could've done it too.

>>131102
you are pretty fucked up. Just saying.

>>131106
>What they do not do well is #2

They've advanced much further in per capita terms than India, even though they effectively started out on a level footing.

But that's more because pakis are subhuman.

>>131119
To me, you and your ilk are the fucked up ones.

Now go and self flagellate about colonialism some more.

>>131089
Where do you think Japan got it's technology to hand China its fucking ass during the Rape of Nanking? You fucking gook retard. Stop doing so much math, do a little more history, and you would know these things, chinky chong-boy. CHING CHONG CHOY!

The amount of stupidity in this thread is amazing. I am constantly amazed by the fucktards on this board who think they know anything about China because they read some shitty editorial in the paper.

>>131129
That baby is PISSED

>>131129
Fucking luuuuuuuld at the baby

>>131077

O yeah, right. Sorry bro but compass, paper, printing machine, and gunpowder are only 4 out of many. And the West invented concrete, anchors, catapults, levers, horseshoes, steam power(in ancient times), and metal locks. We can play the game back and forth, but at the end of the day China was no more inventive than the West and Near-East and certainly fell way behind in later times. Considering the population advantage China enjoyed, it is not unreasonable to suggest that Chinese are, on average, less inventive throughout history than practically any place outside of Africa.

>>130535
Forced multiculturalism is total bullshit.

If a person has an interest in other cultures, that's good for them. Whatever floats their boat. Just don't force it on people who don't want it.

>>131106
I don't see what your point is. Even assuming that Asian economies are not as efficient what precisely makes overall GDP unimportant? And once again I remind you, China is not Japan or Korea and is not inevitably bound to suffer the same problems.
>>131108
there's NEED, and there's GREED. You're forgetting the latter.
>>131165
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Chinese_inventions
Not my fault you only know about 4.

>>131129
>implying you know who my ilk are.

>>131165
>>131213
The Chinese invented none of these things.
Gunpowder outright lie.

ITT Weeaboos bash China because they don't make their virtual childporn they love so much.

>>131213

If greed could have driven the creation of industrial technology, how come industry came so late, not just for China but for the whole world?

>>131241
>how come industry came so late

Late relative to what? How about because technologically and logistically it's non-trivial and unnecessary for small populations.

>>131165
>>131213
When the europeans sailed into chinese harbours they were met with no Guns or cannons. The Chinese also didn't spread the word about their arrival with printing machines. It was spread with runner boys and inked parchment.

>>131240 The Chinese invented none of these things.
Ok, thank you internet professor.

>>131241
Because the technology needed to manufacture on an industrial scale was still in development. All I'm saying is China reached that stage first, but granted retarded isolationist policies fucked it up.

If anyone seriously believes in the idea of one big happy multicultural family then I just kind of feel sorry for them, they've been watching House and The Wire too much. Real life doesn't work that way.

ITT

CHINA > AMURIKA

>>131253

If it's not necessary for small populations, one could argue that it is more vital for large populations. So why didn't it happen in China?


Hypothesis: China is gigantic, it didn't need the efficiency that industry would create to become a huge pre-industrial economy. It had two overwhelmingly large economic advantages over Europe: Silk, and Spices. It didn't have to innovate at the rapid pace industrialism demanded because it could simply enlarge the existing economic structure. This also explains why it didn't crop up in other high-population countries like France.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Invasive_species

>>131213

> what precisely makes overall GDP unimportant?

That it is just a measurement of overall economic output that ignores sustainability or real value of outputs. And it says nothing about the average livelihood for an individual of the country.

> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Chinese_inventions

*sigh*
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ancient_Greek_technology
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Roman_technology
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Medieval_technology

My point was that China was no more inventive overall. And even if you somehow work out a measure for "total number of inventions" and prove that, on a per-capita basis, China was more inventive than elsewhere, it is going to be a pretty small advantage that quickly vanished in modern times. As long as it is ruled by a totalitarian government that suppresses independent thinking via absurd levels of rote-memorization and forces decisions from "on-high" to the shivering masses below, China will always lag behind the more dynamic countries of the world.

> China is not Japan or Korea and is not inevitably bound to suffer the same problems

It is not, yet it is walking down the same road. It is not unreasonable to assume that it will continue walking down that road indefinitely until there is some progress otherwise.

>>131259
That's because China didn't have a tradition of maritime colonialism. The technology was there, however.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Huolongjing

And of course messages were written by hand, it's faster than having to go down to the printer and asking him to set the blocks. Books were printed en masse.

>>131289
Yes i SEE your point but really china and pretty much most of the world didn't invent anything but the most basic technologies of civilisation.
Europe invented virtually all the major revolutionary inventions.
This is fact. /arguement

America, you're going to have to be less white and stupid to beat china.

>>131294
Mongols were a bigger concern for chinks than an oversized salty lake.

>>131273

THIS.

Seriously it amazes me how many libtards from the lily white suburbs only believe in multiculturalism because of some 'cool black character' they saw on a TV show House who was a doctor and really intelligent and hard working.

These shows are fantasy. It's the same as people who claim niggers aren't parasitical because Morgan Freeman is 'badass xD'

>>131299
Not really... It isn't as simple as you're making out; a lot of the ideas that came from the renaissance wouldn't have been possible without arabian, persian and indian advances in science and mathematics.

You're not using Roman numerals; they're arabic.

>>131323
Persia/India = China?

>>131289
But the end result is more money in the state coffers, allowing China to invest in more development and a better military. You can't tell me that counts for nothing. As for sustainability, China has proven its economy just as resilient, if not more so, than other competitors throughout history, i.e. India, and certainly ahead of Europe.

Fine, I concede the point about technological advances on a per capita basis. That being said though, achievement through strength of numbers is still achievement, and China's population today will undoubtedly boost future innovation.

>>131323
cont.

What I will say though is Europe/arabs/persians/turks were better at war than any other equivalent civilisations. Once Europe gained an upper hand militarily the renaissance happened.

Look what happened when I typed in "African inventions" into Wiki
http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Special%3ASearch&search=african+inventions&go=Go

LMFAO!

>>131309
Yeh basically from life experience i've been able to make friends with brown skinned people from all over the world. But never with someone decended from west coast Africans. Everyone i met has been a schizophrenic racist psychotic. The only exception to this is one black female from the carribean i met once, had some good chats with but still i kid you not her first conversation was about slavery.

oh and NIGGERS.

>>131309
Yes, no one who supports mutliculturalism in real life has any actual black friends.

>>131331
No, but they aren't European either so the following statement is false:
>Europe invented virtually all the major revolutionary inventions.

>>131302
No, they'd have to be more white/asian to even stand a chance against us. Which is basically saying, America's screwed.

>>131294

Okay, this thread is over 100 posts long, which means that it has probably devolved into a shitfest, but there is a really, really interesting article that I read in undergrad called "The Star Raft" which was about maritime expeditions by the Chinese emperors to the southern tip of Africa.

Yeah, you read that right. China sent FLEETS of ships to Africa to collect random shit and bring it back to show the emperor. On one of the first trips, they captured a mating pair of giraffes, and they sawed huge holes in the decks of their ships to take them back. When one of the giraffes died, they panicked and didn't know what to do, so they threw it overboard.

When they got back to the emperor's court, they brought the only remaining giraffe in front of him and presented it. The emperor, totally baffled, asked them what the hell it was. The commander of the fleet (being pretty savvy apparently) looked at the emperor and said "it's a unicorn!" (Unicorns apparently being a sign of Heaven's favor for the current emperor).

In another hilarious story from these expeditions, the final Star Raft expedition leaves Africa about 30 years before the Spanish (or is it the Portuguese? I don't remember) round the Cape and reach the area. When they try to seem really impressive to the locals, the locals just shrugged and told them "Other white people have been here before you." In the log of the ship's captain, he records his horror that he'll have to tell the King that the Dutch have beat them there.

>>131344
That is bullshit. They invented Jenkem

>>131352
Well I just wanted to be clear: China didn't do shit either in comparison to Persia.

The world was most multicultural in the 15th century before colonizations/imperialism and globalization began to ruin cultures, drive ethnicities and cultures extinct and pillage civilizations.

We need ethnic isolation to heal the wounds

>>131354
exactly if you read herodatus it refers to ancient greeks setting sail to bottum of the east coast of africa and encounters Cocont palm wearing indjians. I fucking lol'd when i read it. They were actually wearing coconut palm leaves as clothes.

>>131354
Tributary missions ended due to piracy etc mere decades before Portugal's age of exploration took off.

>>131370
That's crazy talk. Jews didn't exist in the 15th century so how could they run their multicultural conspiracy of world domination?

>>131354
Are you telling me? Or the non-Chinese here? Cause like other chinks, I know all about Zheng He and the treasure ships. Not too sure about the fleet getting past the cape of Africa though... have you been reading Menzies?

>>131377
Proof europeans were sailing around the world long before anyone else.
Coconut niggers lols.

>>131348
A few do, but they apply the whitewashed example of that crypto-nigger to the rest of the nigger's race.

The reality is with you faggots, even your whitewashed niggers are more racially aware than you are, and believe me, when it comes down to advancing their interests at the expense of your race's interests (e.g. affirmative action) they'll do it without a second though.

> the end result is more money in the state coffers, allowing China to invest in more development

It may be hard to visualize, but this is basically a giant pyramid scheme:

1. Revenues increase(either through increased tax revenues or imports)
2. Revenue is invested in yet more capacity(factories, buildings, schools)
3. More economic input is needed to man and supply said factories, buildings, schools
4. More capacity makes GDP increase: more revenue therefore more investment, more input, more GDP, ad absurdum

The cycle can last as long as there is more input(in the form of workers, capital, and raw materials) into the economy. It is an exponential process, i.e. it keeps requiring exponentially more input to generate the same amount of output as before. China's massive resources allows it to continue this process forever(and also allow other East Asian economies to ride along for a while) but it will collapse in the long run.

Ok, I have said a lot of hyperbole which I should not have. China has a bright future, so does every other country. But the fundamental problem of the Asian growth model remains, and it will have to be addressed. Maybe China will find a way out, maybe it won't. I believe the Chinese are smart enough to figure out how, but not under its present political system which will adhere to the cycle until the bitter end.

>>131429

> continue this process forever
Oops! I meant "for a long time"

>>131393

I haven't read this thread at all, but I saw "Chinese naval exploration" and I immediately thought of that article. I had never heard of any of these expeditions, and I thought they were awesome. I was just posting it to throw it out there for anyone who might be interested.

I remember reading that article for a class I had to take on world history, and the part about the giraffe being a unicorn made me laugh hysterically. I could also imagine that poor Portuguese bastard stomping back onto his ship and fuming that those damned Dutch had beaten him to it.

I don't think Zheng He ever went around the Cape, just into the East African coast. I don't really know though. I read this article almost 3 years ago.

>>131353
>No, they'd have to be more white/asian

Well which is it? Should they be white or asian?

Multiculturalism is the direction the world is heading. We should just get used to it and stop expecting out opinions to mean anything.

Sooner or later cultural distinctions are going to be non-existent anyway, if the trend continues.

>>131429
Yeah, that's true. It's just that Chinese people have always found every possible way to make a bit more money. We're like the Jews, cept there's 1.4 billion of us ^^

>>131467
If you allow ridiculous immigration, then Asians for more unity and intelligence. But then again Asian immigrants would probably be more loyal to their Asian homeland.

Whites might stand a chance if they had the same mentality they did in the early 1900s. But that ain't gonna happen, and whites are in irreversible decline. Enjoy your niggers, <3 China

>>131362
China did at least one thing (other than bankroll Europe by being rich and weak), which was invent gunpowder. Who the Mongols promptly stole, used to conquer China, central asia and spawn the turks. Leading to Arabs and Europeans learning gunpowder, and the rest is history (which we all have our own bastardised perspective of).

>>131527
as with the jews,we all hope a bright mind will deal with this problem as well

>>131474
>Sooner or later cultural distinctions are going to be non-existent anyway, if the trend continues.

Derp.

>The most pervasive forms of residential segregation, by far, are racial and ethnic. According to the U.S. Census Bureau, while blacks comprise just 12% of the U.S. population, about half of all blacks in 2000 lived in majority-black neighborhoods2. Hispanics also tend to be clustered into segregated enclaves, though not quite to the same degree as are blacks. Latinos made up 12.5% of the U.S. population and 43% lived in majority-Latino neighborhoods as of 2000. (The table below ranks the nation’s most populous multi-racial and multi-ethnic metropolitan areas by their levels of black/non-black and Hispanic/non-Hispanic residential segregation.)

Also: Auto-segregation in schools.

Multiracial societies invariably fail without some strong, centralizing authority to hold them together.

Unfortunately our centralizing authority is the same authority that let them in in the first place, that is, white libtards, and they are anything but strong. Indeed they advance the interests of one racial group at the expense of their own in the hope that this will lead to a color blind society, in reality they're just useful idiots for blacks and hispanics to utilize.

>>131474
Globalisation =/= multiculturalism.

'multiculturalism' amounts to isolated communities of various origins, living with yet remaining apart from the prevalent culture. So you're just left with tribes dominating a small area and the rest of the populace moving elsewhere.

>>131406
So my black friends are secretly plotting to kill me and everyone else white? GOOD LORD, thank you for warning mer. I knew I shouldn't have applied my sweeping generalizations to an entire race of people.

>>131608
You didn't know this already. What rock were you living under?

>>131608
>So my black friends are secretly plotting to kill me and everyone else white?

Nice hyperbole, but they almost certainly DO believe in racially orientated interests whereas you most likely do not even believe in the concept of race biologically to begin with. See what I mean?

>>131631
I see, I should have expected a guy on the internet to know more about my friends than I do.

If I thought that blacks were all together in some plot to eliminate the white race, I too would have become a racist long ago. I am scared shitless now, I must convince others to become as scared shitless as I am!

>>131641
>I see, I should have expected a guy on the internet to know more about my friends than I do.

Do they or do they not believe blacks have racial interests they should advance through methods like affirmative action, social housing and so on?

>>131641

Anyone who makes a big deal out of having black friends is so obviously a preening libtard it isn't even funny. Go and be their little white mascot you faggot.

>>130535
I graduated from a prestigious high school that was nicknamed 'the school of golden sperm.' That is bc all the kids parents were doctors and lawyers, dentists and business owners. Subsequently, all the kids grew up and went to college and grad/professional school to become the same - doctors, lawyers etc... Even at my med school, there were at least 5 kids fromthis one high school in every class. When I graduated from this high school, I was in a class of 184, three of which were Negros. Three. This was bc of district lines being drawn so that the kids from successful families all went to the same school. Then in 2004 they passed a law in the town that said that any student could go to any school in the city, regardless of their address. The flux of Negros was astounding. Now my Alma mater is just another shitty violent failure of our public education system.
I believe that races naturally segregate for a good god-damned reason. Niggers stink.

>'multiculturalism' amounts to isolated communities of various origins, living with yet remaining apart from the prevalent culture.
Aside from racialists I think you'll find very few people support such a practice. I've yet to meet a liberal who supports such a thing.

>>131668

Your white racism is the reason for their failure. It made them feel unappreciated and undermined their sense of self esteem.

Etc. Etc.

>>131674
>Aside from racialists I think you'll find very few people support such a practice.

See:

>>The most pervasive forms of residential segregation, by far, are racial and ethnic. According to the U.S. Census Bureau, while blacks comprise just 12% of the U.S. population, about half of all blacks in 2000 lived in majority-black neighborhoods2. Hispanics also tend to be clustered into segregated enclaves, though not quite to the same degree as are blacks. Latinos made up 12.5% of the U.S. population and 43% lived in majority-Latino neighborhoods as of 2000. (The table below ranks the nation’s most populous multi-racial and multi-ethnic metropolitan areas by their levels of black/non-black and Hispanic/non-Hispanic residential segregation.)

It doesn't matter whether they lend it their 'open' support, it's the end result.

The fact you can't see this is mind boggling.

>I've yet to meet a liberal who supports such a thing.

You mean the same people who live in the lily white suburbs? lol.

>>131644
I doubt it. Like normal human beings we don't dish out extra concern for people who have the same skin color. Fuck em.

But if you have any evidence to show me otherwise, I'm all ears.

>>131674
You have to be joking. In Australia this is all "liberals" our labour talk about. Ethnic minorities must retain their cultural heritage. It's freaking absurd.

>>131689
>I doubt it

So you don't actually know what their political views are.

>Like normal human beings we don't dish out extra concern for people who have the same skin color.

Wow, you're sui generis cases of color blindness amongst the entire world!

Kid - All racial groups compete, to a certain extent ethnic groups do too. The only ones who currently DON'T are self flagellating whites who blame themselves for all the problems of the world.

>>131688
Actually most liberals in this country live in large cities. Suburban areas and areas of similarly low population densities tend to swing conservative.

Thanks for playing

>>131693
do you really want them living amongst you?

>>131697
>Suburban areas and areas of similarly low population densities tend to swing conservative.

DURRR, I GUESS THAT'S WHY NEW ENGLAND SUBURBIA ALL VOTE REPUBLICAN!

>>131694
Go on. Tell me more about this ongoing battle royale in which all races are locked in. I assume you aren't including the macs or the wops in your vague label of "white", yes?

>>131698
No thats not the point. Because our government at the same time "seeds" new communities of for instance criminal somalis throughout Australia. The point is they whip up ethnic nationalism within the country itself leading to riots and racial crime.

>>131707
>Tell me more about this ongoing battle royale in which all races are locked in.

Why do black senators on both side of the political divide vote for affirmative action bills?

>>131712

Somalians are one of the most filthy of all races, disgusting hybrid mix of arab and bantu nigger. The cruelty of the former, the barbarity of the latter.

>>131719
Yes literally one week in Australia the new somali arrivals are driving around in Gangs carrying machetes and abducting white girls and raping them. I shit you not.
Most of it hushed up by compliant media.
It got so bad that apparently the government stopped somali immigration completely.

>>131703
The New England region has among the highest population densities in the country. What are you talking about?

Still, even if you do break the region down further, residents within cities such as Boston vote more to the left than the suburbanites.

>>131732
forgot to add they chopped their victims up with the machetes.

>>131739
>residents within cities such as Boston vote more to the left than the suburbanites.

[citation needed]

>>131745

Diversity eh?

It's 'racism', it's 'economic impoverishment' that causes them to rape and hack girls to death with machetes!

Fuck liberalism up the ass.

>>131688
What the fuck are talking about man.
It sounds to me like you advocate segregation.
Yet then you go on to say that multiculturalism = segregation.

So if multiculturalism=segregation why the fuck are you stormfags bout multiculturalism? You've got your fucking wish!

>>131716
>implying that there are black republican senators

But in seriousness, name me some of the black republican senators that voted for affirmative action. Just two.

>>131763
Multiculturalism engenders white flight. It's something driven by an imperative need.

If non-whites weren't in the country, then there wouldn't be any need for them to flee to white enclaves in the first place.

>>131769
Sorry, should have quantified, Democratic political divide (left and right of the Democratic party).

Why do they all vote along racial lines for such bills? Isn't this advancing their racial group's racial interests?

>>131763
You sir are and fucking idiot.
He implied that integration was multiculturalism and it killed his school's success rate.
Fucking idiot.

>>131749
Look at ANY polling data done in the region. Look at election results. The suburban areas always vote conservative, (which in New England is like being the thinnest kid at fat camp)

>>131788
I suggest you read my post and the post it referred to again my good man.
Then ponder deeply over which of us is in fact the fucking idiot.

>>131785
What vote are you referring to? Most federal actions implementing affirmative action has been done either through executive order or through supreme court decisions. If there is some specific bill vote that you're referring to then let me know what it is.

Although you might recall that the only currently sitting black supreme court justice, Clarence Thomas, is against affirmative action.

>>131834
I'm pretty sure there was a bill regarding road maintenance workers or something of that manner that Ted Kennedy spoke about, all black senators voted for that.

Specifically there was one back in March 2008 about voting on whether 'Commitment to diversity by CEOs is advisable'.

As for Thomas, he's not so bad. But he really is sui generis.

But overrall, are you really suggesting that blacks are as 'race blind' as delusional white liberals?

>>131794
[citation needed]

I don't really know what it means

if it means the same as "secularism", then hell yeah