people dont like what they cant understand

cause i dont want ma babies havin siz heads and what not

>>129703
I like you Bobby

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-0rFbSU0hP4
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Usg7-xbQOcM

its the fucking hippies

Make nuclear power they said.

>>129697

>one poorly constructed plant in russia malfunctions

Ever heard of Three Mile Island?

Because liberals are fucking stupid. They don't want nuclear power, they don't want to use our own country's oil reserves either, they don't want solar or wind power because it "spoils" the environment too. All they want is civilization to be reduced to a bunch of primitive tree-hugging hippies dying out from common diseases just so that we could be "one" with nature.

>>129697
Your fucking picture is related to why people are scared of nuclear power. That show ruined the reputation of a reliable source of power we could be tapping right now.

because liberals don't want to use the most powerful green energy on the planet

>>129732
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Usg7-xbQOcM

watch this

no workers, or people in surrounding communities were harmed from 3 mile island

fucking hippie

>>129732
0/10
theres nothing wrong with nuclear power

>>129732

No one was injured. At All.

>>129732
you mean this?

In the end, the reactor was brought under control, although full details of the accident were not discovered until much later, following extensive investigations by both a presidential commission and the NRC. The Kemeny Commission Report concluded that "there will either be no case of cancer or the number of cases will be so small that it will never be possible to detect them. The same conclusion applies to the other possible health effects."[2] Several epidemiological studies in the years since the accident have supported the conclusion that radiation releases from the accident had no perceptible effect on cancer incidence in residents near the plant, though these findings have been contested by one team of researchers.[3]
Public reaction to the event was probably influenced by the release (12 days before the accident) of a movie called The China Syndrome, depicting an accident at a nuclear reactor.[4] Communications from officials during the initial phases of the accident were felt to be confusing.[5] The accident was followed by a cessation of new nuclear plant construction in the US.

OMG MOONINITES!

People are afraid that if nuclear power plants become the norm that they'll become poorly engineered facilities that would turn their neighborhoods into uninhabitable dead zones. Power plants in general are NIMBY projects, but anything that threatens to kill anything within a 5 mile radius and scorch the earth for an even longer distance around is something people want nowhere near them.

>>129768
>, but anything that threatens to kill anything within a 5 mile radius and scorch the earth for an even longer distance around is something people want nowhere near them.
Can't happen with a US LWR but whatever.

>>129770
>implying well build them next to neighborhoods

>>129732
>one poorly constructed plant in russia malfunctions
link?

>>129770
And again, it's Homer Simpson pushing through this bullshit about unsafe nuclear power stations.

>>129785
Chernobyl. And the design was not great when you want to shutdown from a low power condition.

Because as soon as fusion comes along, Fission will be irrelevant and a huge waste of money and time.

I have no idea. Would you rather die of pneumonia or in a mother fucking nuclear explosion?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=G0RfZcrRQ5Y

Mai Waifu will explain for you.

>>129816
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZP2oG0n4NLc

watch this

>>129805
>nuclear explosion?
Nuclear power plants don't explode.

>>129805
explosion

Fun fact: You get ten times the radiation from coal power, than nuclear.

>>129890
source?

>>129816
>http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=G0RfZcrRQ5Y

>implying a woman can even grasp energy concepts on a level beyond her kitchen

>>129891
http://www.ornl.gov/info/ornlreview/rev26-34/text/colmain.html

>>129891

People are uninformed.

because only liberal faggots believe in cheap efficient energy.

Smart people rely on fossil fuel monopolies. Who cares about the environment. We've already proved that global warming is a hoax.

Besides, we have clean burning coal now, anyway. Just like light cigarettes, we've told everyone that the problem is solved, but fuck, these liberal faggots and their "facts" just want to ruin the party for everyone

FOSSIL FUELS are a gift from the judeo-christian god. They will never ever run out either because god has them set to autospawn on a 100 year ratio.

Because people are stupid. All of the conditions that caused Chernobyl were a result of the shitty soviet system not inherent flaws in all nuclear plants but try telling the average person that.

>>129908
>Besides, we have clean burning coal now

clean coal just reduces pollution not eliminate it

>>129732

TMI accident was caused by a failed valve that dropped reactor coolant pressure less than pressure required to preclude bubble formation in the core. Air bubble formed in the core and no one noticed. Bubble in Core looks just like a bubble in the pressurizer. Air doesn't transfer heat as well as water, reactor got really fucking hot and damage to the core occured.

If you want to bitch about US Nuclear Accidents, go read up on SL-1. The only fatal nuclear accident in the US. A dude got fucking impaled into the ceiling with a control rod.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/SL-1

>>129949
There have been several fatal incidents involving nuclear materials or facilities.

>>129732
>Ever heard of Three Mile Island?
Ever heard of the nuclear accident in the United States where the plant operators did everything completely wrong and despite that the plant performed completely as designed?

>>129953
The Demon Core, yes, but we are keeping the discussion on plants here.

>>129949
TMI was a success, showing that nuclear accidents could be contained and controlled.

>>129931

>>129693
Why must you stupid guys constantly spam and attack www . anon
talk . com for? Please stop. We don't want any chanturds there.

>>129736

LOL troll or uninformed. Liberals approve of nuclear power. What they don't want is more dependence on oil and coal and other environment-raping shit.

>>129897
Do you use a cell phone? No (0.0 mrem) Yes (4 mrem per hour)

People are afraid of what the media and/or government tells them to be afraid of.

bump

>>130136

blame baby boomers

>>129958
>Demon Core

We should try using that thing for fuel. I wanna see what happens.

>>130280
They used it in a nuclear warhead, they discovered the criticality accidents increased its power.

>>129736
>they don't want solar or wind power because it "spoils" the environment too
Liberal here. 100% of your post is obviously biased and uniformed bullshit, of course, but this part called my attention. There are really people THAT stupid?
I mean... wow. Just... wow.

>>130296
>There are really people THAT stupid?
You are surprised?

>>129770
Fuck that. I want a nuclear power plant in my back yard.

Lets see if a storm ever knocks out the power for several days after that, assholes.

>>130296
>In a move that could pit usual allies -- environmentalists and the solar and wind industries -- against each other, Sen. Dianne Feinstein (D-Calif.) is preparing legislation that would permanently put hundreds of thousands of acres of desert land off limits to energy projects. The territory would be designated California's newest national monument.

http://articles.latimes.com/2009/mar/25/nation/na-desert25

hurr durr

bump

itt: retards who don't know geography

>>129697
Chernobyl wasn't constructed poorly. It functioned as designed. The problem is that the operators of the reactor wanted to test out some worst case scenarios. And the worst case is exactly what they got.

>>131699
>He thinks you can't put a nuclear plant anywhere.

>>129736
Liberals are smart about the oil reserves. When the oil runs our, you definitely want to be the country whose military and vital infrastructure has access to some oil while the rest of the world goes to hell. It's much better than having exxon mobile piss it away to china so that they can make more tupperware.

how do we get rid of the spent fuel?

>>131735
>Chernobyl wasn't constructed poorly.

if it was it wouldntve failed

>>131744
>he didn't understand my post

>>131771
Chernobyl failed because they removed the safeguard mechanisms to do an experiment. If they had never dicked with the original systems, it never would have melted down.

Nuclear FTW.

>>131752
Reprocessing. The same technology that allowed the US to construct a Pu based bomb in 1945. You can pull out the U and Pu and minor actinides putting them back to work making power reducing the mass by 90%. Final geologic storage will always be required.

>>131752
My father was a nuclear engineer before the ass cancer killed him. He told me that one of the reasons that there is no long term storage for the spent fuel is that they've already invented methods of recycling the fuel and that as technology improves the spent fuel will be a good source of more energy. It's already so refined compared to raw uranium ore and still has lots of fissionable material (although not usable in the reaction that generated it. Finding a permanent disposal method for it would be like throwing away a truck load of empty aluminum cans away because you need to remove the paint before recycling.

>>131771
It was constructed just fine; the operators put it into a state where there was a power transient because of the design. The designers understood this and the plant controller would have accounted for it had it not be disabled. The plant operators did not understand the physics behind the operation.

>>131790
Totally voided the warranty! When you read about it, it's almost as though they wanted it to happen.

>>129890

But coal doesn't produce ionising radiation. What you just said is similar to saying, "shooting you in the ass is less dangerous than hitting it x number of times with a fleshlight (or something)"

That said, i'm a big fan of nuke power. Tap that ore I say.

Chernobyl was the most poorly constructed piece of shit ever, even by Communist Russia standards, it was built cheap and on at the time, very old and unsafe technology.
Still it ran pretty well, until they decided to do some emergency tests with it. it was actually human error that fucked up the reactor and caused it to meltdown.

I know physics majors that are super against nuclear as well, for no goddamn reason outside of "RADIATION WILL KILL US ALL" I think they are just alarmists and have not kept up to date with current nuclear and waste technology.

Also Coal causes several times the amount of radioactive waste than nuclear.

The best part about banning nuclear power? We're now stuck with old, unsafe reactors instead of superior 2010 technology. Nice job thinking that one through.

>>131816
>But coal doesn't produce ionising radiation
It does if you consider the release of radioactive isotopes in the coal fly ash "production." Face it, if coal was regulated under the NRC, they'd all be shut down right now.

>>131840
>We're now stuck with old, unsafe reactors instead of superior 2010 technology.
Did you hear about that 60s era reactor that had a problem, the reactor operators did everything wrong, and it still performed exactly as designed in the design basis event that occurred?

>>131855
Did you hear about that 10s era reactor that had a problem, the reactor operators did everything wrong, but then a computer took over and prevented any fatal accidents? Yeah, me neither.

>>131865
China's marble reactor.

They held a press conference, melted the reactor down on purpose, and the reactor, due to the physics of it's construction, shut itself down with no damage to it whatsoever.

>>131865
Wow...I didn't realize someone could have this much butthurt over base load power generation.

>>131865
You must have missed the TMI-II accident to which I was referring.

>>131855
Did you hear about how Germany decided to quit building reactors and subsequently started buying power from the Czech republic, which uses Soviet designs.

>>131897
That sounds rather stupid

>>131897
I did. Amazing what that carbon market will do to you. It's almost as lol worthy as California banning new nuclear power plant construction, yet in San Diego harbor, they have the highest concentration of nuclear power plants in the world.