This wouldn't happen if guns were illegal.

>>1183341
Thanks OP. The gun ban is indeed working out very well.

lrn2stats

>pass law banning guns so shooting fatalities will go down
>stabbings skyrocket instead

Bunch of fucking savages in the British Isles, I swear.

free market will fix it.
Bullet-proof vests would've been common by now

They should put up cameras to stop crime.

Hey OP.

This shooting spree took place over 4 hours.

3.9 People in the US are killed every HOUR by guns.

So over the 4 hours, 5 people in the UK died after being shot and it made major news.

Over the 4 hours, 12 people died in the US after being shot, but it's a natural part of the American way of life.

>>1183370
yet most of the stabbings occur from the fucking minorities we let in the country.

>>1183341
>gun violence in UK: Breaking news
>gun violence in USA: Everyday
Thanks op the gun ban worked out quite well

>>1183373
Bullet proof vests are banned in Britain.

>>1183370
>skyrocket
>USA still has higher stabbing rate than UK.

>>1183370
by "skyrocket" you mean wut?

wat, since when have the police had HK36's?
i thought they still had HK5's

>>1183380

Hahaha

how does it feel amerifags?

no more civilized than the fucking spear chuckers in the dark parts of africa

Since the shooting spree ended, around 12 more people have died in the US from being shot.

It'll be weeks or months before a single person in the UK does.

The Brits need to keep people indoors at all times. You can get hurt out there.

British people do not care for the need of guns because they feel safe.

Americans daily scream for their right to keep their guns and claim it is for their safety. They are scared, they do not feel safe. But then again, who would with such a huge crime rate?

>>1183406
>>1183380

but stabbings

people killed by knife crime
UK:Everyday
USA: Breaking news

"No kingdom can be secured otherwise than by arming the people. The possession of arms is the distinction between a freeman and a slave. He, who has nothing, and who himself belongs to another, must be defended by him, whose property he is, and needs no arms. But he, who thinks he is his own master, and has what he can call his own, ought to have arms to defend himself, and what he possesses; else he lives precariously, and at discretion." (James Burgh, Political Disquisitions: Or, an Enquiry into Public Errors, Defects, and Abuses [London, 1774-1775])

>>1183422
Except USA has more stabbings than the UK as well?

>>1183384

Not sure if troll.... but no, they're not banned and neither are guns.

Looks like taxi drivers are the next thing banned in Britain.

>>1183423
>1774-1775
like thats fucking relevant now.

Gun crime (especially in the afro-caribbean parts of London) was so out of control in recent years that police have been issued automatic weapons for patrols.

This was the first time police in the UK carried automatic weapons while on patrol outside of Northern Ireland.

>>1183423
Are you saying that you can defend yourself with a gun? What stops me defending my house with a knife?

"To trust arms in the hands of the people at large has, in Europe, been believed...to be an experiment fraught only with danger. Here by a long trial it has been proved to be perfectly harmless...If the government be equitable; if it be reasonable in its exactions; if proper attention be paid to the education of children in knowledge and religion, few men will be disposed to use arms, unless for their amusement, and for the defence of themselves and their country." (Timothy Dwight, Travels in New England and NewYork [London 1823]

That's what happens when you force white people to drive taxis. That's a Paki's job.

>>1183430
You are limited in what guns you can own though, in comparison to America?

>>1183445
Arm length.

>>1183443
does not suprise me.
blacks in london are fucking horrible

>>1183455
yeah shotguns seem to be the only thing you can own.

>>1183446

>millions dead in america by gun fire

lol amerifags, even your grandpapi where stupid niggers

"Firearms stand next in importance to the Constitution itself. They are the American people's liberty teeth and keystone under independence ... From the hour the Pilgrims landed, to the present day, events, occurrences, and tendencies prove that to insure peace, security and happiness, the rifle and pistol are equally indispensable . . . The very atmosphere of firearms everywhere restrains evil interference - they deserve a place of honor with all that is good" (George Washington)

>>1183457
Can your gun defend against a missile? An air strike? A tank?

>>1183447

So, going to complain that there is no jobs at the Job Center Plus later?

>wat, since when have the police had HK36's?

The crime wave of 2007-2009 brought them G36 rifles and more MP5s..

>For Scotland Yard's senior command, Duzgun's death was the final straw. Something had to give, something drastic was required to tackle the vortex of violence. The decision was taken; for the first time, officers armed with Heckler & Koch semi-automatic sub-machine guns would be deployed on routine patrol on London's streets. They could also have fast motorbikes at their disposal. History may well interpret Duzgun's killing as the catalyst for the UK's first step towards an armed police service.

It was the only spree killing since 1997.

Not bad, I must say.

"Gun control has not worked in D.C. The only people who have guns are criminals. We have the strictest gun laws in the nation and one of the highest murder rates. It's quicker to pull your Smith and Wesson than to dial 911 if you're being robbed." -LIEUTENANT LOWELL DUCKETT (Pres., Black Police Caucus, Special Assistant to Washington, D.C. Police Chief)

>>1183491
1987 You mean?

>>1183341

>gun ban

you obviously know nothing about the uk therefore should resign yourself before being embarrassed.

30 different crime scenes on this rampage

wow

>>1183499
Dunblane was 96, I'd say that counts

>>1183481

So we need tanks...

THANKS!

"The philosophy of gun control: Teenagers are roaring through town at 90MPH, where the speed limit is 25. Your solution is to lower the speed limit to 20." - Sam Cohen (inventor of the neutron bomb)

>>1183494
Because getting a gun is so easy in America. Banning guns in London but not in the rest of the UK would obviously mean their are guns in London. But as it stands, the majority of people can't get a gun without going to another country and smuggling it back.

>>1183455

Yes very limited as to what you can buy compared to the states.

You can buy semi auto shotguns, saiga etc, ak varients, dragunovs etc but are nerfed to single action.

It's a good job guns are legal.

>>1183479

I'm quite certain George Washington could never have even imagined the kind of weaponry that we possess right now. All that shit about militias and guns was mainly in regards to the presence of a BRITISH THREAT. But guess what, we are allies with Britain and I don't think they are going to invade us anytime soon.

Idiot. I hate people who treat the founder's like deities.

>>1183505
Dunblane was barely a spree. Just a few stupid kids.

Gun control? It's the best thing you can do for crooks and gangsters. I want you to have nothing. If I'm a bad guy, I'm always gonna have a gun. Safety locks? You will pull the trigger with a lock on, and I'll pull the trigger. We'll see who wins. -Sammy "The Bull" Gravano, whose testimony convicted John Gotti

Wow crooks like gun control laws, what a surprise.

>>1183511

Or you buy them off ethnic-looking people in North London.

>"Firearms are still coming over with the heroin to north London, it's what we used to do as well," said Ergun. He added that the current price for an unused pistol in north London was £800-£900, while a brand-new submachine gun would cost £1,000-£1,500. Replica guns such as the Olympic BBM 9mm revolver could also be bought for £85 on the high street and converted by criminals to fire live ammunition.

>>1183524
Everyone knows that the gun law is not about the constitutional intention any more. People have "fun" with their guns and right wing media brainwashes them into thinking guns are great.

>>1183481

You can shoot the people that operate them or maintain them or fund them

Since spree killings happen once every twenty years and the gun crime rate has fallen since 97, I'd say gun control worked here

"Those now possessing weapons and ammunition are at once to turn them over to the local police authority. Firearms and ammunition found in a Jew's possession will be forfeited to the government without compensation Whoever willfully or negligently violates the provisions will be punished with imprisonment and a fine."-Nazi Law, Regulations Against Jews' Possession of Weapons, 11 Nov 1938, German Minister of the Interio


The Nazis agree, it made killing those pesky Jews 1000% easier.

>>1183541
£800-900?

Most street scum don't have that kind of money unless they're major drug lords. In which case defending yourself against drug lords is highly unlikely. £800-£900 is a very large amount of money for a gun.

>>1183514
Still a better deal than Ireland. All we can own is 2.2 rifles, double barrelled shotguns and semi-auto shotguns (with a maximum ammo capacity of 3 cartridges). I think you can own 9mm handguns for "sporting", but I'm not sure.

It's also very hard to acquire a license for them unless you're a farmer or part of a gun club AFAIK.

>>1183548
But violent crime has risen.

>one shooting incident in England
>claiming it as proof that banning guns doesnt work
>happens every day in USA

>>1183554
They still liberalised gun laws for other Germans

Gun control is a stupid idea. Liberals want the government to have all the guns and wants the people to be at the ends of THEIR barrels.

If you outlaw all the guns only outlaws (and the government) will have all the guns while people will die at a higher rate because they can't protect themselves or their family.

>>1183548
Too bad the number of killings stayed the same.

http://www.rusmilitary.com/html/firearms_svd.htm
This place sells the following guns... not a great selection, but...

.. SVD (7.62x54R Tigr)
.. AK-101 (.223 Saiga)
.. AK-102 (.223 Saiga)
.. AK-103 (7.62 Saiga)
.. AK-104 (7.62 Saiga)
.. XR15-M4A1
.. Saiga-12 shotgun
.. Saiga-410 shotgun

http://www.rusmilitary.com/html/firearms_svd.htm

Actually the police don't have guns here.

I'd say it's a fair assessment to say that most of the population has never seen a gun in Britain.

>LATEST:
>Twelve killed by gunman in north-west England, police say

Surely the gun laws must be toughened.

>>1183563
>>1183570
Crime fell, actually

>>1183384
Most Surplus stores sell Flak jackets, light and heavy kevlar vests.

"The strongest reason for people to retain the right to keep and bear arms is, as a last resort, to protect themselves against tyranny in government." -- (Thomas Jefferson)

"Those now possessing weapons and ammunition are at once to turn them over to the local police authority. Firearms and ammunition found in a Jew's possession will be forfeited to the government without compensation Whoever willfully or negligently violates the provisions will be punished with imprisonment and a fine."-Nazi Law, Regulations Against Jews' Possession of Weapons, 11 Nov 1938, German Minister of the Interio

"A system of licensing and registration is the perfect device to deny gun ownership to the bourgeoisie." - Vladimir Ilyich Lenin

"The measures adopted to restore public order are: First of all, the elimination of the so-called subversive elements .... They were elements of disorder and subversion. On the morrow of each conflict I gave the categorical order to confiscate the largest possible number of weapons of every sort and kind. This confiscation, which continues with the utmost energy, has given satisfactory results." - Benito Mussolini

"All political power comes from the barrel of a gun. The communist party must command all the guns, that way, no guns can ever be used to command the party." - Mao Tse Tung

USA Murder rate equivalent to that of Poland, Slovakia, Bulgaria, India

UK Murder rate equivalent to Spain, Germany, New Zealand etc

u mad?

>>1183370
You can defend against a knife a lot easier than you can a gun, though.

>>1183603
>Post comments from history from people who had no idea what modern times would be like

>Ignore all statistics and facts.

>>1183569

Everything you say is generally incorrect, so I'm even more confident in my support of gun control now.

>>1183597
Yeah my bad, they're banned in several commonwealth countries but not Britain. Probably because stabbings are so common there

>>1183603
Do you support, then, guns being sold to palestines in Gaza and Israel completely stopping the blockade and inspections?

>>1183578

Our regular UK police don't carry guns (thank god), but you see plenty of HKs etc around london, most major cities and airports etc.
It's not unusual to see an armed respone car drive buy full of police with guns.

Also, to my knowledge our police don't use fully auto guns in public places for obvious reasons, mostly semi auto.

>>1183623
"One of the arguments that had been made against gun control was that an armed citizenry was the final bulwark against tyranny. My response had been that untrained, lightly-armed non-soldiers couldn't prevail against a modern army. I had concluded that the qualitative difference in firepower was such that all of the previous rules of guerilla war no longer applied. Both Vietnam and Afghanistan demonstrated that wasn't true. Repelling an armed invasion is not something that American citizens are likely to face, but the possibility of a despotic government coming to power is not wholly unthinkable. One of the sequellae of Vietnam was the rise of the Khmer Rouge and slaughter of perhaps a million Cambodian citizens. Those citizens, like the Jews in Germany or the Armenians in Turkey, were unarmed and thus utterly and completely defenseless against police and paramilitary. An armed minority was able to kill and terrorize unarmed victims with total impunity." - Paul Hagar

>>1183610

Poland's and Slovakia's murder rate is actually lower than that of the UK.

So many people say that guns prevent crime...

So this basically means that America should have a much larger amount of deaths from guns.

So you're basically making the gap between UK and America larger and putting America's death rate in the top 10 with Zimbabwe etc?

>>1183651
Nope try again

>>1183651
The UN Office on Drugs and Crime and their various studies disagree with you.

http://www.unodc.org/pdf/crime/seventh_survey/7sc.pdf

We don't have issues

/thread

"These Sarah Brady types must be educated to understand that because we have an armed citizenry, that a dictatorship has not happened in America. These anti-gun fools are more dangerous to Liberty than street criminals or foreign spies." -Theodore Haas, Dachau Survivor

>>1183623
>claim that people are ignoring statistics and facts
>ignore statistics and facts

>>1183658

Poland: 1.28
Slovakia: 1.31

UK:
England, Wales: 1.33
Scotland: 2.13
NI: 2.48

This will stop 7.62x39 and 7.62x54R conventional bullets fired at Kazak from AK-103 (AKM) & SVD at 20 yards.

£479

>>1183684

>>1183691
>Make up random numbers
>Post as proof of a claim
>Ignore replies that show sources of UN studies.

the death total is up to 12 now,

>>1183667
>>1183667

>data from a decade ago

Homicide rate in England and Wales is 1.37 per 100 000 people

The US is at 5.4

Northern Ireland pushes the UK average up. Guns are widely available in Northern Ireland.

>>1183696
see
>>1183705

>>1183684
That just proves that Euros are bigger liars.

>Implying that Northern Ireland (A state rife with terrorism) won't push the homicide rate up.

>>1183705
So you're claiming that Poland and Slovakia witnessed a 90% drop in homicides in 10 years? Why do I not believe you? Where are your sources? Still waiting.

>>1183727
Fastest crime drop ever. Poland and Slovakia, bastions of crime fighting.

>>1183715

>implying that it isn't high WITHOUT it already, certainly higher than that of Poland or Slovakia

http://www.nationmaster.com/graph/cri_mur_percap-crime-murders-per-capita

#20 Poland
#24 USA
#46 UK

It only takes one nutjob to ruin what is a pretty low rate of firearm homicide in Britain. You can't do anything to protect against this, regardless of the level of gun control you have.

>>1183727
yeah well consider 90% of polands population moved to england.....

>>1183732

https://www(dot)osac(dot)gov/Reports/report.cfm?contentID=113952

"During 2009, national police implemented and sustained effective techniques to limit criminal behavior. As a result, categories of crime, particularly crimes of arduous nature against the general public, registered a drop in numbers. Felony crimes recorded a drop by 2.6%, as well as a decrease in car thefts by 1.4%. Burglaries rose by 3.8%,"ordinary" theft went up by 1.8% and banditry/robbery was down by 2.5%. The number of homicide crimes dropped by 2.7%. However, economic and drug-related crime statistics are on the rise. This is attributed to improved detection and investigative resources for the National Police."

>>1183646

Hey guys, it looks like we're dealing with a real free thinker right here! He let's his quotes do the talking since he clearly cannot defend his own position.

But as for that particular quote, I agree with it up until the comparison of Nazi Germany to some future, completely hypothetical despotic regime. That is just conjecture and fear-mongering, just because something COULD MAYBE POSSIBLY happen doesn't mean it will. Furthermore, I highly doubt it would even be possible for something of that scope to occur again with the advent of the internet, at least not in the United States.

>>1183738
Why are you refusing to post sources? Post a source saying that Poland is lower than UK.

>>1183738
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_countries_by_intentional_homicide_rate

England and Wales is only fractionally higher than Poland

>>1183732
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_countries_by_intentional_homicide_rate

Poland - 1.28
Slovakia - 1.31
UK - 2.03

>>1183755

Poland is COOOOOOOOOOOOOLD. The weather in England is warm and bright.

Well, compared to Poland, anyway.

ITT: Americans whom, deep down, know their country is the shithole of the first world try to make themselves feel better by dancing all over a piece of one-off news from another country.

It's seriously heartbreaking to watch, Americans used to be cool.

>>1183772
Can you normalize by country of origin for the US numbers please?

>>1183755
>ITS THE POLES FAULT POLES FAULT
>I AM AMSTER RACE
>MASTER RACE GUIZE!
>WHERE IS EVERYONE GOING!
>listen to me...

>>1183758
>The number of homicide crimes dropped by 2.7%

2.7%? Okay, a 2.7% drop. Your point? Where are the actual homicide RATES. Where is the 90% drop over 10 years you are claiming.

Homicides spiked at 1.67 deaths per 100 000 people in ~2005. It's gone down to 1.37 since.

>>1183783
it was a fucking joke you faggot

>>1183778
You're just mad that the things you take pride over prove to be ineffective.

>we're awesome not like the shithole poland or slovakia
>pasting 10yo stats
>where are your statistics, you are making this up!
>looking at stats, England and Wales is only fractionally higher than Poland
inb4
>those stats are wroooong! baaaaw

Fuck Britfags and their nanny state. They can have their low crime rate. America is like a jungle. Growing up in America makes you tough. Survival of the fittest.

>england and wales: 1.37
>scotland: 2.13
fucking scots, stop killing eath other

>Polls, statistics, graphs, charts, and figures? I'm sorry, but those are just politics! I am not a politician! I am OBAMESSIAH!

>>1183806

>You're just mad that the things you take pride over prove to be ineffective.

I am mad that 5 people died, as are most of my countrymen today.

How many people have to die in one shooting for it to make national news in Hamurka?

Loving how Slovak and Poland and all the other eastern european dirt are running in to try defend their high murder rate. Yet no stats! Poor attempts to argue.

>>1183817
>implying theres anything tough about taking a bullet to the chest.

grow up on a council estate in northern england and tell me that shit dosent make you tough.

No American drives a taxi, this is what happens when you force a white person to take a job a Middle Eastern person is supposed to be doing.

Socialists.

>>1183800
>jokes on you, I can't make funny jokes.

sad, bro.

>>1183789

I'm not that guy, was counter-evidencing ahead of time. Onyoursideyo.

>>1183820
its in their blood man

>>1183811
"Intentional homicide demographics are affected by changes in trauma care, leading to changed lethality of violent assaults, so the intentional homicide rate may not necessarily indicate the overall level of societal violence.[2] They may also be underreported for political reasons"

Not like Poland would edit their findings to have a random 90% drop is it....not like they're a 3rd world country desperately trying to conform to crime requirements for the EU. Your sources are POOR.

Did he by any chance look like this?

>>1183828

Like at least 100. 5 people is a fucking joke.

from 2006 (latest i could find by the UN)

UK
England and Wales: 1.41
Scotland: 2. 13

vs
Poland: 1.28
Slovakia: 1.21

http://www.unodc.org/documents/data-and-analysis/CTS10%20homicide.pdf

suck it

>>1183836
>i take everything literally

sad, bro

>>1183849
>ITSAH CONSPURACY!

>>1183834

>implying anyone in England is actually tough.

You English faggots would get your asses kicked in a heartbeat if you brought that arrogant attitude to The States.

>>1183849
>crime requirements for the EU

lol

>UN stats are wrong, baaaaw

>>1183873
CUZ WE ARE AMERICA STRONG

>Implying if the victims were carrying it would have made a difference.

Fuck off.

Delicious Britfag tears!

The U.S has about 5 times the population of the U.K

>>1183888

You know it's true. You're one of the most cowardly nationalities on the planet.

London's Evening Standard reported that armed crime, with banned handguns the weapon of choice, was "rocketing." In the two years following the 1997 handgun ban, the use of handguns in crime rose by 40 percent, and the upward trend has continued. From April to November 2001, the number of people robbed at gunpoint in London rose 53 percent.

From 1991 to 1995, crimes against the person in England's inner cities increased 91 percent. And in the four years from 1997 to 2001, the rate of violent crime more than doubled. Your chances of being mugged in London are now six times greater than in New York. England's rates of assault, robbery, and burglary are far higher than America's, and 53 percent of English burglaries occur while occupants are at home, compared with 13 percent in the U.S.

In a United Nations study of crime in 18 developed nations published in July, England and Wales led the Western world's crime league, with nearly 55 crimes per 100 people.

>>1183896

And one hundred times the niggers.

LAfag here. Interning as clerk at a hospital. Sorry Ameribros but Britain has us beat in this shit. Far fewer deaths from violence in general. Sorry.

"Gunshot? Damn how many is that today?" (this is normal conversation)

>>1183900
>Post random facts
>Don't provide source

>>1183900

>Stuff copied and pasted from blogs that don't cite their source with an actual link.

Cool story bro, keep making excuses for America being the shithole of the first world.

Gun Deaths per year in UK - 51
Gun Deaths per year in US - 30, 000

588 times more gun deaths
5 times larger population

Do the math.

>>1183897
>calls us cowardly
>uses a gun to defend himself

>>1183955

Americans are fucking feral.

>>1183964
Judging from most of the posts on this board, you've got a point.

The gun ban is working out well for the government of the United Kingdom. It's about time you serfs stopped shooting each other, you're costing your masters precious money.
(inb4 AMERICA IS FULL OF SHEEPLE!)
We're mainly retards, but we're armed retards. We can actually change our government if we get the notion into the minds of the masses.

>>1183955
I'd be interested in seeing how much of those guncrimes were caused by blacks.

>>1183964
Better feral than tamed, enjoy your nanny states where guns, knives, and lolicon are illegal, but you're flooded by mudslimes.

>>1184008

>We can actually change our government if we get the notion into the minds of the masses.

Yeah, it's called elections.
inb4 2004

>>1184008
Yes, I'm sure some armed rednecks will stand a chance against the biggest, best financed military in the world.

>>1183623

>Mao Zedong
>Benito Mussolini
>Sam Cohen
>Not knowing about modern times

You do know at the bare minimum 2 of these men lived to see the "modern era" and that Sam Cohen is actually still alive, right?

>>1184028
So, if your government decides to stop elections, what can you do about it?
>>1184032
pretty sure 75% of the military wouldn't fire on American citizens, you're forgetting that "big military" is made of rednecks.

>>1184026

>flooded by mudslimes

UK: -
2.8% Muslim.

USA: -
12.8% black
15.4% hispanic

Will keep our Muslims, thanks.

>>1184017
According to a 2008 survey, Blacks lead in the U.S for violent crimes by 4% over Whites. Whites lead in everything else.

>>1184026
>implying you're not gettin flooded by spics

>>1184032

They said the same thing about some other people who were fighting for the freedom of their homeland.

Now we have a wall with lots of names.

>>1183380

I psycho wouldn't have been able to run around a small county in America for 4 hours, shooting people, if most of the people he was targeting were also armed.

Nigger-related gun crimes distort the statistics for the USA. If we woke up tomorrow without them, our violent crime (especially gun crime) would be on par with Singapore.

>>1184070
No it wouldn't.

>>1184067

>I psycho wouldn't have been able to run around a small county in America for 4 hours, shooting people, if most of the people he was targeting were also armed.

Translation: -
>My country is such a shithole I think more people should be armed, just in case.

>>1184070

I laughed so hard when I read this.

>>1184059
>implying you're not getting thousands more muslims a year while your white population is shrinking
>>1184065
>implying mexicans are killing people over cartoons

ITT: Yanks trying to prove that the jungle they call society is safer than the UK.

>>1184085
>My police officers have assault rifles but i can't have a knife, it's for my own good.

>>1184074
Look at black on black, white on white, black on white, and white on black violent crime. It's not politically correct, so mainstream news sources don't bother.

You're relatively safe from white people if you're black.

>>1184067
>implying virginia snipers never exsisted.

>>1184094

>>implying you're not getting thousands more muslims a year while your white population is shrinking

Since non-EU migration is so low right now, source?

>>implying mexicans are killing people over cartoons

Not one person in the UK was killed by a Muslim over the Muhammad cartoons, idiot.

>>1184106

>>My police officers have assault rifles but i can't have a knife, it's for my own good.

The vast majority of British police do not carry guns.

Way to fail hard at defending your shithole country.

>>1184114
In Britain a person could get a higher killcount with a fork. No one could stop you unless you ran into the police.

London is now more dangerous than Harlem, according to figures released yesterday.

The chances of being mugged in Britain' s capital are 25 per cent higher than in the oncenotorious area of New York.

The Tories have found that in Harlem last year there were just 5.9 robberies per 1,000 residents.

Across London the figure was 7.4 attacks.

In some inner-city boroughs the level of street crime was even higher.

Lambeth, which includes Brixton, saw 24 muggings per 1,000 people - four times the Harlem rate.

Westminster - which includes Downing Street and Buckingham Palace - had 12 robberies per 1,000 residents.

The borough of Islington, where Tony Blair lived before becoming Prime Minister, saw 9.3 attacks per 1,000.

Shadow Home Secretary Oliver Letwin said last night: 'You are now more likely to be robbed in London than you are in New York's Harlem.


http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-111162/Now-mugging-worse-London-Harlem.html#ixzz0piYLpFdC

>>1184100

Look, I got a lot of respect for you Brits.
But I got one word that disproves your notion that the UK is 'safe.'

Chavs.

>>1184100
The word jungle is shockingly apt for that comparison.

The US is actually fairly safe if you don't live in an area that's full of nigs.

>>1184100
Meanwhile I enjoy my legal assault rifle while you need a license to carry a butcher knife.

>>1184133
Sounds like you have some useless ass police if they have to run back to the station to get a firearm.
Also,

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6-3X5hIFXYU

Enjoy your shithole.

>>1184148
>>1184148

>www.dailymail.co.uk
>www.dailymail.co.uk

Cool story bro.
Cool story bro.

Stand back my American brothers I will make every Brit ITT to go crazy:

I shit the queen.

>>1184181
>You don't share the same news sources as me, thus you must be a liar.

>>1184190
I almost forgot they still have royalty, and they call us backwards and regressive.

>>1184181

It wouldn't surprise me if this were actually true, I live in New York and Harlem's getting gentrified. The rich whitey-ness of the Upper West Side is creeping uptown.

My family is on holiday there.

Had to lock themselves in their cottage.

>>1184208
>>1184190

Protip, the Monarchy is completely powerless and is largely a symbolic thing, see in Britain there are these things called culture and tradition

>>1184190
anyway i reply to you your going to announce a victory, but.....no one give a shit about the queen.
more american probably give a shit about the queen of england than the brits

Enjoy having this on your hard-drive, in case the police ever take your computer you british faggots.

>>1184226
>implying tradition is a good thing and not a anchor tied to the leg of progress

>>1184226
>>1184231
Lies, I bet your queen controls your damn country, you still have monarchy and you don't know it.

>>1184221
why? too pussy?

>>1184235
>Implying anti-paedophilia laws are a bad thing

England and Wales have the highest crime rate among the world's leading economies, according to a new report by the United Nations.

The survey, which is likely to prove embarrassing to David Blunkett, the Home Secretary. shows that people are more likely to be mugged, burgled, robbed or assaulted here than in America, Germany, Russia, South Africa or any other of the world's 20 largest nations. Only the Dominican Republic, New Zealand and Finland have higher crime rates than England and Wales.

The UN reports also shows that England and Wales are the second-worst places in the world for assaults, with 851 people assaulted per 100,000, and seventh for burglaries and car theft, with 1,579 burglaries per 100,000 population.

Source: Telegraph, U.K. | 01/12/2002 | David Bamber

>>1184180

>Sounds like you have some useless ass police if they have to run back to the station to get a firearm.
Also,

Most police stations don't have guns, you're such an idiot. You don't understand, gun crime is NOT A PROBLEM here.

>http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6-3X5hIFXYU

See, this is just the kind of shit I expect talking to an American. You people are just loud, nothing you say is of substance and you don't check to make sure that what you are loudly saying is actually true. Here is some homework for you: -

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/8189231.stm - "
Debunking a YouTube hit"
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/programmes/more_or_less/8189434.stm - "Disproving the Muslim Demographics sums"

Inb4 BBC conspiracy.

Why is this not on American news channels?

>>1184253
Are you kidding? The Monarchy in England has no real power. All they do is attend events.

>>1184253
they are nothing more than living museum pieces.

>>1184235

>>1184268
Aren't knives a problem?

>>1184260
Yeah, let's ban every ancient-greek statue for showing child titties, it may make people go out and rape kids.

>>1184209

This. The fucking Guardian were trying to sell it as a holiday destination.

Also, The source already fails because no study was cited in the article other than a vauge "Statitsics produced by the tories".

No citation, no validation.

>>1184290

No test case yet and the CPS has warned that it would be near impossible to get a sticking conviction on loli alone. Law is mostly designed to nail people with actual CP on their drive.

>>1184290
>Implying classical art is punishable by a law brought in this year
>Is totally not retarded

>>1184276

Hot!

>>1184288

>Aren't knives a problem?

Show me the statistics and we will find out.

>>1184290
says the american whose country went up in arms about a little bit of blue ass in mass effect.

>>1184317

wat?

>>1184306
So we should ban child modelism too?

>>1184311
Banned in Britain.

Crime rate per 100,000 inhabitants:
UK: 11,014.38
US: 4,118.73

Source: UN
http://www.unodc.org/pdf/crime/eighthsurvey/8sc.pdf

>>1184327
search "mass effect fox news" in google

>>1184330

No. Its not going to get banned anyway. What will happen is that if the CPS tries to bring a case based on loli and drawn CP alone. Liberty (Britfags version of the ACLU) will fight the defense and lay down that if they ban those depictions, all depictions must be banned including artistic depictions which the CPS will more than likely lose and strike down the laws.

What those laws will probably be used for is to get a charge so they have reasonable cause to search hard drives and houses for real CP. If the CPS and plod are being smart about it anyway.

Is this banned in Britain?

>>1184349

You mean "Grand total of recorded crimes".

The UK has the best police force on the planet, we obviously catch more criminals record more crimes.

>>1184349
And how many 100,000 people are in the US and UK?

>>1184384
You seem to know a lot, is there any article you read or something?

>>1184385
I hope so, for Britain's sake.

>>1183384
No they're not.

>>1184426
QUIET INFIDEL ENEMY OF ALLAAAAAHHHHHHH

I love watching Americans try so hard to look good.

That's the most obvious sign of shame right there.

>>1184415

Not that it matters, but she's supposed to be like twelve.

>>1184391

0/10

Total offences for ten-to-17-year olds climbed steadily from 184,474 in 2003 to 222,750 in 2006, the last year for which figures are available - a rise of 21 per cent.

But the increase in violent offending was steeper, while robberies rose even more dramatically, up 43 per cent over the three years.

By contrast, adult convictions and cautions increased by less than one per cent.

>Asked whether she would feel safe walking the streets of Hackney, one of the most deprived parts of London, she replied: "Well, no, but I don't think I'd have ever have done."

http://www.thisislondon.co.uk/news/article-23433275-its-not-safe-to-walk-the-streets-after-dark-admi
ts-home-secretary-skewered-in-kebab-farce.do

>>1184317
Actually, I can enjoy both playing Mass Effect and masturbating to drawings here, thanks!

viral for this show, believe me.

Derek Bird has just been called up to the England World Cup Squad.

He's had more shots on target than Emile Heskeys had all season.

>>1184483
Oh wow, I laughed hard, and didn't even feel much guilt about it, ah well looks like 4chan has ruined me