Bring it back please.

>>1103655
Segregation wasn't a detriment to society.
Explain that.

your point?

>>1103655
You say that like it's a bad thing.

>>1103655

If the federal gov had never intervened blacks would have been as wealthy as whites by now.

says the yankee

>>1103655

Segregation was not constitutional, therefore the federal government had a right in that case to intervene. SHUT THE FUCK UP.

>>1103670
Proof or GTFO

>>1103655
yes, and crime would still be a fifth of what it is now.

also it's important to understand that it was not the federal government which intervened.
The "civil rights movement" was pushed entirely through the court system. Using a leftist supreme court to redefine the constitution.

>>1103678

Blacks would have maned up instead of turning into the welfare children they are today. Blacks need someone to fight in order to walk forward.

Segregation would never have started because slavery would never have ended.

>>1103678
because back then blacks -had- to take initiative in business etc in order for their communities to survive, they couldn't just expect the white man to hand everything to them

>>1103670

>>1103676
>Segregation was not constitutional,
lol, it's crazy how leftists actually believe this.

Funny how, it took till the 1960's and jewish lobbyists to discover that suddenly segregation wasn't constitution.

And then further, that even voluntary segregation isn't constitutional, that we need to forcibly integrate schools and neighborhoods.

>>1103678
the federal government enforced or allowed first slave laws, and the later Jim Crow

>>1103699


lol ok how do you take initiative when you cant even get a business license or your store gets bombed, get real.

>>1103699
Blacks would never have been as wealthy as whites.
It's impossible, they are 25 IQ points dumber, they are far more violent and criminal, etc etc.

However blacks were, on the whole, far better off segregated, then after liberalism came along, promoted nigger gang culture, and ruined their communities.

Same as blacks in africa were far better off under white rule, then under black rule.

But you could never get a liberal to admit something like that. They don't care about the facts or reality of the situation. And liberals have never really cared about blacks either.

Liberals see blacks as a large block of voters who will vote primarily on racial issues. Too this has payed off greatly for them, as blacks vote 95%+ for democrats.

>>1103716
You live in a fantasy world.

>>1103723


Now its 25 points, wow thats amazing

FACT: I can say that if X never happened, Y would have happened, but that doesn't make it true.

>>1103704

You might want to note that slavery really didn't end in the US until about 1940.

>>1103731

You mean the real world where anarcho capitalist BS doesnt actually work and southern people in the 60s were incredibly racist?

So you mean the real world.

>>1103716
because...they could?

also, don't think blacks didn't start to fight back. malcolmx.jpg

>>1103723
jesus christ just go away. blacks were better off in the 50's and early 60's, making a life for themselves, when their iq's were -lower-

Look at examples now a days to people not protected. Take for instance trans gender people. Jobs discriminate in every state they aren't protected. If a trans girl shows up to an interview dresses as her chosen gender and an 'm' on her DL, the chances of her getting a job is very low.

>>1103745
>slavery really didn't end in the US until about 1940.
lol. this is what liberals actually believe

>>1103739
Liberals like to skew things by trying to measure negros when they are 2 or 3 years old.

As they grow older the IQ and education gap vastly increases.

>>1103749
racism is normal and natural. Tens of thousands of people are killed every year due to an improper amount of racism.

Whites in south africans gave up apartheid, and tens of thousands have been murdered by niggers since.

In the USA 50,000+ whites are raped by niggers every year, thousands of whites are killed, hundreds of thousands of violent crimes are commited, and hundreds of thousands, if not millions, of robberies are also commited.

Black/mexican/other non-whites commit tremendous amounts of crime against whites.

Fact- Society was as good with segregation as it is now.
Fact- Black people were in no worse shape with segregation than now(ghettos, welfare, soaring crime after seg ended)

>>1103770
Oh those evil employers who don't want to hire perversions of nature!
We don't need freedom in our socialist utopia's!

>>1103754

>>1103777

now the blacks want segregation back

>>1103781
1 in 500 isn't a perversion. And because of that, they should be denied a job even if they are a really hard worker? Black people were considered perversions of nature too, at one time.

>>1103798
>1 in 500 isn't a perversion.
Pretty sure being something straying from the norm is the definition of perversion.

>Black people were considered perversions of nature too, at one time.
It was a saner time, before liberalism poisoned our nation.

>>1103781
Because the working class doesn't need rights.

>>1103683
No.

The laws they were demanding were already there in the 14th and 15th amendments (passed after the civil war). They were merely seeking that those rights be protected.

>>1103806
You just lost all credibility, racist.

>>1103772

Well I can see you are quite knowledgeable about chattel slavery or can even comment how there are more slaves today than at any other time.

Quite the student of history. Now fuck off.

>>1103806
Then most people that exist are a perversion. There is no real 'normal'.

>>1103655
>coloured

>>1103843
Having to work for a living isn't slavery.
Indentured servitude isn't slavery either.

Everyone knows blacks were immediately worse off after slavery ended. Slaves weren't left to starve in the street like the oh so noble northerners did to factory workers.

Niggers enslaving other niggers has been a constant through all of history, that's nothing new either.

>>1103777
Saying that slaves were worse off after slavery was abolished doesn't make slavery a good thing.

>>1103849
Exactly, minorities should be protected just as much as the majority.

>>1103860
It is slavery when you have to work to survive with no hope for a better life. American dream is completely false.

>>1103849
>>1103866
leftists think "protection" means removing property rights and freedom of association.
And installing quota systems for non-whites.

>>1103880
No. Slavery is when one person is the property of another. Class mobility is a great thing, but the lack of it isn't slavery.

LULZ IM SO RACIST XD

>>1103880
Niggers will ALWAYS be an underclass with no hope of progress.
THEY ARE NIGGERS AFTER ALL!

Leftist lunacy of forcing employers to give them well paying jobs hurts EVERYONE.

And then people wonder why government can't seem to get anything done, too many minority appointments for critical jobs.
DC has subway accident, dozens die, and the fact comes out a nigger sow was at the wheel of the subway train.

Liberals think their agenda's have only positive results, they live in fantasy worlds.

segregation allows for diverse groups of people to live comfortably in close proximity to eachother.

>>1103906
Libruls are forcing us to attempt to undo the 400 years of opression suffered by Black people.

TRAITORS!

>>1103849
People aren't unique snowflakes you fucking idiot. Have some pride in your own race and peoples, and the achievements of our forefathers.

Voluntary cultural, economic, and racial suicide is utter lunacy.
We don't allow people to kill themselves, why the hell should we allow people to advocate the suicide of our race and nation?

>>1103913
can't you spell libtard?

>>1103907
Stupidest fucking thing i've heard all day. Really, have you never listened in your history classes ever?

Separate but equal is anything but. One population with power will always disenfranchise another population.

>>1103906
So do you, you might want to cut back on the terminology if you dont want to be so blatent about coming here from specific places with the express purpose of spreading propaganda.

>>1103924
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Damn... don't know the rest.

>>1103906

you're a moron.

>>1103884
In a business there shouldn't be any freedom of association. You are there to work, not to socialize. Fuck off.

>>1103931
ah did you have a marxist history teacher too?
My marxist history teacher decided to waste all the time talking about the soviet union so i stopped showing up.

You really shouldn't believe those communist lies.

>>1103931
PROTIP- Taking out segregation hasn't stopped this in the least. Ghettos are still the main hangout for black people, and ghettos are shit. They have the world at their fingertips, but would rather let society do the work for them.

>>1103944
Don't you have a sense of humour American?

>>1103954
>communist lies

>>1103892
You don't have to be property to a person, you can be a slave to an idea. Which is what wage slavery is. Derp!

>>1103951
>In a business there shouldn't be any freedom of association.
liberals apparently don't understand the concept of what "freedom" is.

>>1103922

>Have some pride in your own race and peoples, and the achievements of our forefathers.

You live a sad and pathetic life. Taking pride in something you had no influence or control over as a way to feel superior to other people, how pathetic are you?

>>1103960
A few hundred lynching in the 1800's and 1900's doesn't compare to the literally millions of crimes by niggers against whites which occur every single year.

Nevermind the undocumented attacks on our children and women by niggers.

>>1103957
It has most definitely stopped it to a large extent.
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>>1103957
Do you think ghetto's magically form?
The places they live weren't ghetto's before niggers came in and ruined the place.

In fact many areas where niggers live today, such as Detroit and a thousand small towns around america, were thriving white area's before liberalism destroyed them.

>>1103976

>most crimes committed on white people are committed by white people

>>1103954
So having common sense is being a communist? Thanks for the info.

>>1103977
No. If he was purely black, and not a dark skinned white guy, he never would've gotten elected.
And, with the job he's doing right now, you'll never see another black president any time soon.

>>1103976
I didnt say that whites were more violent than blacks - that had nothing to do with the discussion i was having. Someone said that segregation leading to inequality was a communist lie, and i was simply showing them proof to the contrary.

>>1103982

MMMM sweet racist tears.

>>1103991
>Implying Obama is any worse than any other Democrat

>>1103976
[citation needed]

>>1103977
Some nigger commie has somehow changed reality?

>>1103991
That's a dodge. Clearly he does not look white, and every redneck realizes that. And yet he's our president. Wouldn't have happened 40 years ago.

It probably would, but it would take a very very long time.

see: gay marriage.

>>1104012
Dunno what the fuck you're talking about. Black people can be presidents now. Before they couldn't. It's a very simple argument.

>>1103860
>>1103892

Well, you know, we could go through a long, detailed account of slavery through sharecropping and chattel slavery and the like.

And you could bring up trivial points of minor consequence when viewed from the history of debtors prisons, company towns and the like.

Or you could raise an actual point to differentiate beyond your own ignorance.

>>1103995
>>1103990
You'll notice that libtards have never actually produced any proof that segregation cannot be equal.

They have some fucking retarded "study" by some nigger commie about dolls and children, that's what "convinced" the court system to outlaw segregation.

Strangely enough, no evidence has ever shown any case of forced integration improving the situation for niggers.
Forced integration was never supported by the majority of blacks OR whites.
Leftists decided they knew better then everyone else and forced it on the unwilling populace.

>Forced integration was never supported by the majority of blacks OR whites

And the majority is always right, right?

Right?


...right?

>>1104035
Black people could be president 100 years ago too.
Just because no white man would vote for them, doesn't mean they "couldn't" do something.
Or is democracy the problem now too?
No wonder you leftists support mass non-white invasions of our soil.

>>1104023
segregation is still supported by the majority of the population.
Only a lunatic and a leftist thinks forced integration was a good idea.

>>1104040
what's done is done enjoy your niggers

>>1104040
They didn't want it? Then who was it that started the civil rights marches? Who were the leaders? The large amount of blacks couldn't even eat at a local diner when it was the only one in town. And good luck having a black man get a loan to buy his own, or even have the city board grant him a license.

>>1104040
I just showed proof. Lynchings are proof that segregation cannot make an equal society.

Can't you refer to anything you don't like without having to use derogatory words? We all know you don't like blacks and what you perceive as "communists" but really, at least try to have a halfway intelligent discussion.

It's probably silly to ask you to do that. If you had any common sense you wouldn't be racist, but you are clearly an idiot. And I'm an idiot for expecting that someone like you could ever have an open minded discussion about anything.

>>1104064
>segregation is still supported by the majority of the population

The majority of people you know=/= majority of the country.

>as if forced integration isn't MORE INFLAMMATORY

>>1104064
Our democratic republic is set up now to protect not only the majority but the minority as well.

>>1104040


I weep for whatever public education shit you out.

>>1104057
So now, in this thread we have seen the liberal hatred of freedom and rights.
We have seen the leftist misrepresentation of history, his delusional negro centric world view.
And now we see the typical hatred of a leftist for the majority of americans, and how he thinks he is superior to those "evil" conservatives.

>all men are created equal
>except niggers

There's no contradiction at all cause niggers aren't human amirite?

>>1104064
HURRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRR.

If white people wont vote for a black president, than black people can't be presidents. Jesus christ.

>>1104084
>Lynchings are proof that segregation cannot make an equal society.
What the fuck are you babbling about now you goddamn nigger?

>>1104091
Constitutional Republic

>>1104112
I was babbling about whatever i was babbling in that post.

>>1104105
First of all, I swing right. So put a big fucking sock in it.

Second of all, you're just mad because you know you're part of the rascist minority.

Don't like it? Kill yourself.

But of course, you're going to continue to be condescending and hypothetical in order to further prove that you were home schooled by a speak and spell.

>>1104112
LOL !! Nobel Peace Prize !
fucking idiot

>>1103655
all you fuckwad liberals worrying about racism all the time. go out and get a job and keep your mouths shut

>>1104110
I'm not sure if you know what "can't" even means. Canadians' CANT be president because they weren't born here.
Niggers COULD be president if they could get the votes.
>>1104107
misrepresent what they meant by that phrase
typical leftist revisionism of history. They pretend to be "constitutional scholars" and cherry pick phrases and change the meaning.

>>1104091
Protect people FROM THE GOVERNMENT, you fucking idiots.
RIGHTS are not about intrusive pervasive big brother government deciding what businesses and people can do.
Freedom's are FOR ALL, not for specific "protected" minorities.

>>1104074
The jews and communists started and ran the "civil rights" movement.
Rosa Parks was a card carrying commie and NAACP member who was instructed to make an issue of the bus seating.
MLK jr was a communist wife beater who plagiarized his thesis and regularly slept with white prostitutes. There's a reason why his FBI records are still sealed.

>>1104184
>Straws for everyone!

>>1104184

Oh dear we are back to blaming the fictitious jewish cabal for our problems again, how original.

if segregation had not been ended by military force..(basically confiscating the rights of the majority to give rights to a minority)

then eventually blacks would have bought some large acreage in nigeria or congo, and gone there.. getting paid to leave.. which was the plan of everyone from Jefferson to Lincoln.

blacks have been a plague that destroyed almost every civilized urban area in the USA in less than a decade after being unleashed.. anyone who says otherwise doesnt know what they are talking about or is lying

>>1104220

cool story bro.

>>1104184
CANT means that IT ISNT POSSIBLE. It either be impossible in theory or impossible in practice. It's impossible in practice. You are trying to win the argument by nitpicking over definitions, but the point is clear. A black man could not be president because he could not get the votes.

Of course Rosa Parks was a commie. She wanted social equality. Wanting social equality is a socialist / communist ideal.

You think you can ignore the truth by picking at the sides of the monolithic historical fact of racism and segregation in the south. It won't work. You can hide yourself from the truth of it because you are racist, and being racist prevents you from thinking that racism is wrong.

That I agree with OP. The Jim Crow laws were product of Southern racism. These laws were made for the sole purpose of keeping African-Americans the underclass of Southern Society. The main reason why the federal government did intervened via the judicial system is that they considered segregation not only unconstitutional but immoral because it represents a human evil. That human evil prevented African-Americans to advance in Southern Society.

The end result of the ruling gave way to the Civil Rights Act of 1964 and the Various Voting Rights that we know and still in force today.

>>1104220
>if segregation had not been ended by military force..(basically confiscating the rights of the majority to give rights to a minority)

Segregation had not been ended by military force, although some force was used to enforce desegregation. The White majority of the Southern States still had their rights, the intervention meant that they simply granted the same rights to African-Americans via federal and constitutional law.

>>1104288
get a clue about history and reality.

>>1104267
>Wanting social equality is a socialist / communist ideal.
welp how does i be a delusional commie?
>racism is wrong.
Racism is natural and normal, you'll notice libs only ever talk about whites as being racist.
Liberals are liars and traitors.

>>1104330
>The White majority of the Southern States still had their rights,
I don't think you understand what "rights" even are.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zNZczIgVXjg

Niggas be smart and shit tooo yo!

>>1104355
Then what are "rights" in your definition? We have civil rights, economic rights, social rights, constitutional rights... Take your pick.

>>1104357
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=W1-rzbHgIKo

>>1104378
I cannot solve a lifetime of leftist brainwashing in a few lines of text.

>>1104387
cop-out

>>1104343
If racism is natural and normal, how come I'm not racist? And why aren't my whole family, and most my friends racist?

They have no desire to live and associate only with whites, and to not believe that blacks are an inferior "race."

>>1104420
Obviously you are brainwashed by leftists

>>1104420
Communist brainwashing and a complete lack of any actual experience with non-whites.
Or you are too stupid to recognize the vast differences between races.

You'll figure it out eventually when you are robbed or beaten by your pet niggers.

>>1104420


Its not natural, it is learned. Just watch very young kinds play together.

>>1104449
Wait so if i get robbed by whites I should hate whites?

>>1104449

This persons kids are doomed to be racist, it will take great strength for them to overcome it, but with such a weak father the chances arent good,

>>1104469
Yes. All whites are the same.

>>1104476

If we killed all the niggers and other races this would become a non issue.

I can say one thing for niggers, at least there are nigger serial killers or child molesters

>>1104459
Young children voluntarily segregate.

http://www.buffalonews.com/2010/05/25/1060888/rental-bias-costs-landlord-1000.html
Here is a good article about leftist lunacy.
Asking if a possible tenant has any children = illegal discrimination.

>>1104476
yes, the children are the true victims.
You see new articles every single day of white children forced by leftist parents to go to majority non-white schools. They are then taunted and attacked mercilessly by the negros/muslims/whoever.

>>1104449
Imagine you have someone that looks black, but his ancestry is made up of alot of non-African people. If you saw this person you would think that he is a "nigger," wouldnt you? But you would be wrong, wouldnt you? And yet you would consider him inferior even though he may very well be the same race as you.

>>1104524
There are new articles every day how white kids beat up and abuse other white kids too bro.

>>1104544
>Imagine you have someone that looks black, but his ancestry is made up of alot of non-African people.
Are you fucking retarded?
If you have non-african ancestry then guess what, you WON'T LOOK BLACK.

>>1104547
Not the same thing.

>>1104524

kids associated more closely with similar kids is natural, becoming froth at the moth hate factories like yourself isnt natural, it is learned.

wow /new/ wow, just wow. I have no problem with blacks at all, most that I know are kind, sweet and yes hard working, spics on the other hand....

>>1104556
Sure it is, kids get bullied in schools for any reason the bullier can think of.

>>1104556
You must hate Sicilians.

>>1104556

why isnt it the same thing? You dont even make sense.

>>1104556
Thats why i said imagine. Its a hypothetical question. And it has happened before, i just cant think of the name of the case right now.

>>1104565
>most that I know are kind, sweet and yes hard working
You are either
lying
or just plain stupid and delusional.

>>1104556
I hate to break it to you but I guantreee that your ancestors fucked some niggers, gooks or spics along some time in your ancestry. There are no pure whites anymore, if you want to make sure go get a blood/dna make up test to see what ethnicity's are miked with in you.

>>1104588
Ok, imagine this.
Hitler won WW2, and kill all the undesirables in the world.
How would that make you feel?

>>1104601
Wouldn't feel anything because you and I would be nonexistent.

>>1104601
I'd be dead, so...

>>1104589
they are in there 60-70's

>>1104601
Um, bad?

I would appreciate it if you would admit that your conception of race is entirely perception based. Thats what the point of the hypothetical was.

>>1104610
>you and I would be nonexistent.
Unlike you, i am not an inferior shitskin who blames all his problems on an elusive "white racism"

>>1104589
He said the ones that he knows.

>>1104622
Oh you are funny, glad to see manchildren still have a place on 4chan.

>>1104630
So, he is lying.

>>1104622
Why do you call them shitskins? Is it because you have toilet-paperskin? Does it make you feel bad?

Desegregation would have happened, but probably would have taken a lot longer in some states. Hell, there are still parts of some of the southern states that are pretty ass backwards (segregated proms, stuff like that).

>>1104643
How do you figure? Even if 50% of blacks were criminals and welfare scammers, that still leaves 50% who aren't.

>>1104622

And I am not pathetic that puts derives his self worth from something I had no influence over or say in.

>>1104659
What are you trying to say?

Are you projecting?

>>1104659
that puts derives his

wat?

>>1104357
>>1104379
More like this please. I love to see black people failing as politicians.

>>1104702
one of the obese nigger council women wears a crown to city council meetings.

>>1104659

And I am not a pathetic person that puts derives his self worth from something I had no influence over or say in.

So, is this guy a troll, or is he actually serious that due to living around shitstains like himself, he based his concept on race around those experiences, acts like a retarded little child who can only complain about the complex problems in the world by simplifying it into race and liberalism. Has obvious problems with being scared of people outside of his "tribe", akin to social anxiety and autism, and acts like he is something that deserves to live? I mean, I often wonder how racist would react if they were subjected to a "blue eyes/black eyes" type of experience. I find it sad that some better person in this world will probably be killed when this guy deserves it more.

ITT: Ass pained mud men.

I used to hate Black people.. Then I realized I hated stupidty even more.

Troll harder stormfags.

Fact: If the federal government had never intervened and we always went by "states' rights", slavery would never had ended