>>454234 → that's what I think is wrong with it
have to say though,it is useful for getting to Oakland and SF, if you can afford it

NYCFag here.
Old ass subway, first underground sectional built 1904, some above-ground sections date back to the 1850s. Most trains are around 15-20 years old, some trains are old (Around 40 years old), a growing number are new.

Its also a massive system, can get almost everywhere on it.

Only issue is that its sometimes a bit smelly and dirty, and the MTA has no idea what the fuck is going on in its own system half the time.

But still, i'll give it an 8/10

>>454435
really like the express lines
wish we could have a system like that in the sf bay area, but we don't have the money or the population density for it
though a fast service to SF or the airport would be awesome

>>454435
i think the mta does a good job, its the shitty people who just casually litter and piss and puke in the subway that are the problem.

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It's really good, except when there's a problem, because there's only two tracks. When it goes to hell, it really goes to hell. Other than that, it's quiet, clean, and fast. Can be on the expensive side though, but I ride on federal transit benefits, so it doesn't hurt as much for me as it would for someone who doesn't have them.

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>>454244
Oakland to SF before midnight is all that the BART is good for, that and getting to and from the airport. It's always crowded and dirty. It's expensive, old and hardly goes anywhere. >>454234 → pretty much summed it up.

>>455033
they've been going on about getting new cars/building extensions for years, but it's unlikely we'll see any real changes before 2020
public transit here is a joke, at least in comparison to East Coast and European cities

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>>455033
I heard they were buying new trains, and cleaning the system up.

London Underground.
I hate everyone.
Super efficient, but that doesn't stop me from indiscriminately hating everything about it.

>>454989
i always found the DC metro to be rally kind of gloomy and scary underground.

>>454240 (OP)
chicago CTA pretty decent but the hub and spoke layout means if i want to get from my place to another i have to go through downtown chicago. a lot of that is because of the layout of chicago but it can be frustrating because i live in the west and i usually want to go north or south

used to live in new york, manhattan is a really good place to change trains because there are so many connections between different lines. it's also sort of a hub and spoke but the hub is a grid of its own which is nice. the G train was a piece of shit but it was a convenient way to get from queens to brooklyn and catch basically all the trains i'd ever take going into brooklyn without having to deal with 10000000 stops in manh.

basically the geography of new york makes it good for subways, and the fact that people all really use the subways makes it even better.

>>455721

That's 19th st, isn't it? Or is 19th blue. I can never remember with is blue and which is red....wait a second...what station is that?

>>455033

Works well enough to get me to work everyday. Walnut Creek to Civic Center, work in SOMA.

And WC is awesome cuz they have an elevator. Only costs me $1.75 on the way home.

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>>455760
Have you ever played Fallout 3? This is mostly an aside, but I'm really impressed with how Bethesda captured the gloomy atmosphere of the DC Metro. Even without the rubble, the station looks quite depressing.

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>>455762
Yeah what's the deal with that? I entered an elevator from the street level and it placed me down in the station, bypassing the whole card reader so when I got on the the BART I never paid. But then when I got off at my destination and slide my card it went all weird because it was used when I boarded. Then I had to see an attendant who then charged me full price.

How do you use the elevators to successfully pay less?

>>454240 (OP)
>clean and quiet
At just what hours do you ride it?

I'll give it 5/10.

The trains are often overcrowded and several passages are designed with 1950s ridership in mind, far too narrow to handle the flash-floods of humans. There are several extension plans that have collected dust for 20 or 50 years to appease the car lobby. The blue line is supposed to strech as far south from the city as it does north, except it would kill off the need for the gigantic motorway bypass.

The blue line could get a quick boost by using longer trains (it being designed for 10 old-style cars instead of 8) but new stairwells would have to be built on half the stations.

The new railway tunnel (delayed 25+ years) will offload some stretches, except its designed capacity is so small that it will only satisfy the needs we had in the 1990s. A second railway tunnel has to be built yesterday.

>>455760
>chicago CTA pretty decent
duhhell are you on? It always smells like a sewer, shitty ass stations, fucking ignorants ass niggers all over, or maybe its just because im a south-side fag and take the Red Line, i dont know.