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Dunno brah, Bombardier makes pretty clutch aircraft.

You say that if we set Bombardier out of business would be better for Canada, but if they go out of business a lot of people will have no job and i think that is worst.

"Labour productivity in the business sector in Canada has fallen to 76 per cent of the U.S. level, from 90 per cent of the U.S. level in 1984."

-- Today's Globe and Mail.

Supporting plodding dinosaurs like Bombardier doesn't help our productivity, which slows growth, and ultimately loses jobs.

also don't be Siemens trains - German efficiency is a fucking myth!
The trains they sold us here in Melbourne are fucking lemons: THEIR BRAKES BREAK AND FAIL TO FUNCTION

I'm not so sure because I really love their gnarly snowmobiles.

Dont worry brah, we buy ATR's!

Lol Canada. All you're good for is bacon, maple syrup and Dash 8's. Without them, you're no use to us.

>>197124
Bombardier train are the best trains bro, or at least high tier, Kawasaki Heavy Industries are god tier, though! (MTA here, we have 5 makers of trains thanks to a high average age, between the OLD budd railcars, the newer Kawasaki cars, the LIRR/Metro North Budds and now the Bombardier/Kawasaki cars.

>>197243
Siemens is a bank. Why should they know anything about trains and transportation?

>>197243
To be fair, they were building them to German subway standards apparently, which assume much better rails. Blame it on M<Train.
Also, Melb has some Bombardier rolling stock for V-line (regional) and I don't hear too many bad things about them.

>>197341
What are you talking about?

>>197375
It's quite common in Germany to view Siemens as a bank with an electronics branch (electronics and something else). They changed their business model from actual engineering to investment banking, marketing, and selling their brand names long time ago.

The T bought Breda trams for the Green Line, but royally fucked up the specs so that they ended up with Pininfarina-styled paperweights. And the Siemens cars for the Blue Line were late too.

Look at me Im practically doing a mods job! bump

>>197360
That is the V/Locity DMU, built in Melbourne at the former COMEG plant in Dandenong.

>>197805
The company is still Bombardier Transportation though, and AFAIK a Bombardier design.

>>197395
>>197360
It sounds less like the train manufacturers' fault than crap organization from the local TA. Having lived in Boston, this doesn't surprise me. MBTA is painful.

>>197817
I'm from Melbourne in Aus, and we've gone through 4 operators in the last 10 years thanks to privatisation. At one stage there were 2 operators on the same network, one of which was M<Train who bought the retarded Siemens EMUs. All of them have been incompetent in their own special way.

It can't be this bad overseas, can it?

>>197842
Look what happened to British Rail, it can be worse

In fact Connex had two franchises on the British network which were taken back by the government because of the abysmal condition they turned them into

>>197815
So? Still the former COMEG plant

>>197252
In 2003 Bombardier Recreational Products was spun off as a separate company from the Bombardier that makes trains and planes, sues Montreal, etc.

BRP makes ski-doos so I guess you can buy one with a clear conscience. I would not be surprised if the two companies were still closely linked through some corporate ownership shenanigans though :/

FUN FACT: The founder of Bombardier is also the man who invented the snowmobile.

SAY FUCK TO BOMBARDIER

Only the Canadian division is really that bad. The division formerly known as Adtranz still builds good stuff, they're only really Bombardier by acquisition.

Bomb makes one of the best internal combustion engines ever,,on par with bmw and husqvarna they are a tough shrewd company to bad GM didnt have the same balls

>>197243
the brakes are hardly made by Siemens, probably Knorr or Wabco

>>197384
they design (Erlangen e.g.) and produce their trains. They even took ICE in their own hands, they are probably the best rolling stock producer. They only subcontract systems much the same way as other carmakers, IMO they validate the systems better than BT

>>198780
I love how the ALP-46 is just the American version of the DB 101

doesnt bombardier just buy failing companys and try to sell their swan song as cheaply as possible ?
i mean rotax engines are prety awesome
crj's are good too
adtraz products are fine aswell ...

some others ... not so
dash 8's fall appart before takeoff
talent is gopingly awful and uncomfortable
the acela is a joke
them busses with a guide rail are hilariously shit
and so on and so forth

>>198970
> talent is gopingly awful and uncomfortable

The ones built after 2003 are quite alright

pic related. it's a comfortable talent