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  • File : 1270265734.jpg-(46 KB, 400x234, caltrain.jpg)
    46 KB With all its revenue streams diminishing, Caltrain may be forced to cease operations Anonymous 04/02/10(Fri)23:35 No.165790  
    Caltrain is broke and will almost certainly need to wipe out half its service, leaving no trains on weekends, weeknights or midday and leaving the agency's future in doubt, officials said Thursday.

    "And that's only if we're lucky," Caltrain CEO Mike Scanlon told the agency's board of directors. "This is not an April fool's joke. This is real."

    Scanlon said the cuts would need to be completed by June 2011, although the agency may begin reducing its schedule as soon as this fall. The board would vote on the cuts at a future meeting.

    Officials at the agency stopped short of saying they expected the railroad to fold, but said the news calls into question its ability to survive. Scanlon said the agency's business model is simply not sustainable.

    More at: http://www.mercurynews.com/top-stories/ci_14802053
    >> Anonymous 04/03/10(Sat)00:34 No.165801
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    HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!!!!!

    NONE OF YOU HAVE A STATE TRANSPORTATION AGENCY AS AWESOME AS NJ TRANSIT!!!
    >> Anonymous 04/03/10(Sat)04:11 No.165827
    maybe its because they're trying to operate a commuter with gigantic locomotives?
    >> Anonymous 04/03/10(Sat)05:31 No.165834
    Maybe Californians should stop voting for more public services and then not voting for the funding.
    >> Anonymous 04/03/10(Sat)07:45 No.165843
    >leaving no trains on weekends, weeknights
    >weeknights
    local trains running on weeknights, at least until now? I am impress. Or do they call the time from 20:00 to 1:00 "night" (which would actually be evening), like so many operators here do?
    >> Anonymous 04/03/10(Sat)08:23 No.165845
    >>165843

    Past midnight is morning, man.
    >> Anonymous 04/04/10(Sun)00:16 No.165922
    >>165834
    That's the problem, they can't have both ways but they want both things. Prop 13 is the root cause of this.
    >> Anonymous 04/04/10(Sun)06:18 No.165952
    I got an idea: Tax cars heavily. Fuckers don't need to be driving one to a car. Either carpool or take the fucking train!!
    >> S.T.A.L.K.E.R. !!Q+dsI/uvfZo 04/04/10(Sun)07:57 No.165959
    >>165952
    i got an even better idea, introduce legislation that requires federal funding to be spent on public transportation, not highways and paying off the gas/car companies

    if the Feds hadn't poured TRILLIONS into the automobile world for the past 50 years, trains would be the most economically viable option
    >> Anonymous 04/04/10(Sun)09:24 No.165965
    how long are the lines? Is this a 30-50km commuter or a 100km+ regional/intercity?
    >> Anonymous 04/04/10(Sun)13:28 No.165984
    >>165959
    That's the thing to do! Any money spent on roads can be restricted to accident blackspots and essential maintenance. Make public transport and basic intercity services free at the most.

    Problem is that politicians get a lot of money from car companies and companies connected to the automobile industry.

    >>165952
    Like they do in Singapore? I like the idea, but it should only apply to areas where public transport is easily accessible.
    >> Anonymous 04/04/10(Sun)14:17 No.165989
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    >>165952
    >>165959
    >>165984


    I'm so glad none of you idiots will ever be in any position of power. Goddamn.
    >> Anonymous 04/04/10(Sun)14:20 No.165990
    What's with the car bashing? If the train companies can't continue to operate then they stop operating. Simple concept that the rest of us understand and live by.
    >> Anonymous 04/04/10(Sun)14:23 No.165991
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    Can those tracks be changed to accept BART trains?
    >> Anonymous 04/04/10(Sun)14:35 No.165994
    >>165989
    Why is that? You afraid?
    >>165991
    I don't think so, they're designed for intercity rail cars.
    >> S.T.A.L.K.E.R. !!Q+dsI/uvfZo 04/04/10(Sun)14:47 No.165996
    >>165990
    >If the train companies can't continue to operate then they stop operating
    right except the train companies aren't being subsidized by the Federal government, the car companies and highways ARE

    this isn't a simple free-market issue, this is an issue of the train industry being fucked over by the Federal government ON PURPOSE for the benefit of the automobile industry

    if they'd all been left to their own devices, cars would never have overtaken trains, because trains are just far more efficient
    >> Anonymous 04/04/10(Sun)15:40 No.166002
    >>165996
    And if the federal government funds trains much more than the automobile industry. The automobile industry will have to actually compete.

    The car companies hate real competition, they only want competition if the game is rigged in their favor.
    >> Anonymous 04/04/10(Sun)18:43 No.166030
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    >>165990
    >>165996
    >>166002
    Great American Streetcar Scandal
    >>165991
    I don't think the rails are different gauges, but bart is third rail electrified and this is not.
    >> Anonymous 04/04/10(Sun)18:58 No.166032
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    >>166030

    well, third rail can be extended. Or if not (if other trains are too wide for third rail operation) you can build cars fit for both third rail and catenary (e.g. S-Bahn Hamburg, pic related) or use hybird cars fit for both third rail and diesel operation (e.g. trams in Nordhausen and Kassel, which run with catenary and diesel)
    >> Anonymous 04/04/10(Sun)19:19 No.166034
    >>165965
    ~50 miles i think. maybe 70.
    >> Anonymous 04/04/10(Sun)19:49 No.166036
    >>165801

    Every system has better livery though.
    >> Anonymous 04/04/10(Sun)19:56 No.166037
    >>166032

    Not gonna happen for many reasons. Suffice it to say that BART is way more expensive to operate.
    >> Anonymous 04/05/10(Mon)05:32 No.166131
    regarding electrification from wikipedia:
    >The proposed Caltrain electrification project would convert the Caltrain mainline between San Francisco and San Jose from the current diesel-electric locomotive power source to a fully electric rolling stock.[21] Electrification would improve service times via faster acceleration, enable more fine-grained scheduling, and reduce pollution and noise. Electrification also allows future expansion to downtown San Francisco.
    >Although the project has an estimated total cost of $600–865 million, some of these costs can be offset by savings of $1–2 million a year in fuel and other saved costs; the amount saved depends on the price of diesel.[22] Electrified vehicles require less maintenance, but electrification will increase required track maintenance by approximately the same dollar amount, at least initially. Caltrain plans to complete electrification by 2014.[23]
    >The electrification project between San Francisco and San Jose is the first of two project phases, with the second phase between Tamien and Gilroy.[24] The capital cost, excluding electric rolling stock, for the first phase is estimated at $471 million (2006 dollars). Options for the new electric rolling stock include electric locomotives with new or overhauled passenger cars, or electric multiple units. Caltrain plans to retain the newer diesel-electric rolling stocks for Dumbarton and south of Tamien service.
    how will the cut backs effect this?
    >> Anonymous 04/05/10(Mon)12:37 No.166147
    >>166032
    HUMMEL HUMMEL!
    >> Anonymous 04/05/10(Mon)13:39 No.166155
    Honestly, Caltrain is too expensive and really will only serve commuters going to/from the peninsula and SF. I am fine with route cuts, they'll simply become like the ACE train.



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