1. Black metal is my life
2. Sex Pistols were the Monkees of punk

Crash course finished! Yay!

listen to the clash and the sex pistols
the gods of rock well guide you after that.

also the stooges
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=irskrVvKR1E

Fang - Landshark, where the wild things are
Dead Kennedys - fresh fruit for rotting vegetables
Circle Jerks - group sex

good ol' California hardcore...

For Black Metal : Cradle of Filth - Nymphetamine
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZgXmwCbnIhc

forget about metal its crap
stick with the punk

>>6347855
metal is for faggot angsty 12 year old boys who want to be non-conformist and badass, but just fail.

Listen to Propagandhi, they're like 50% punk, 50% metal.

>>6347870
>>6347881
fags. black metal is again for 12 year old cocksuckers.

Just give the man his recommendations and quit turning this into a punk/metal flame war, you stupid fucking mongoloids

>>6347880
I think you're taking this thread and that post in particular, too seriously.

>>6347888
I'm not taking anything seriously I'm just saying black metal is for faggots.

>>6347885
There is no flame war, just one tripfag with schizophrenia. It's pretty fun to watch actually.

ITT: sweeping generalizations

>>6347859
lol the sex pistols are the boy band of punk - totally manufactured by Malcom McClaren... the clash were good though.

also try Black Flag, Flipper, Fear (more beer only, rest is crap), DRI, MDC, Agnostic Front, many others.

>>6347894
lol, no but really black metal is for faggots, its just common sense.

>>6347905

Add Poison Idea to that.

OP missed out on a decent punk thread, earlier in the night.

>>6347905
sex pistols is entry-level, also anti-flag.

>>6347919
>>6347235
This one?

>>6347920
dead kennedys' fresh fruit is much better entry level.

>>6347905
>totally manufactured by Malcom McClaren

Have you ever heard about public image limited?

>>6347956
Yes, I have one of their albums (this is what you want, this is what you get). they are definitely not punk and other than johnny rotten completely unrelated to the sex pistols... so what the fuck is your point? the sex pistols WERE a manufactured (by malcom mcclaren) "punk" band.

>>6347870

>>6347991
My point is, malcom mclaren made up a band, he wanted to make something between the bay city rollers & the new york dolls, the first incarnation of the band without johnny rotten sounded generic. Malcom made an initial plan and this get fucked up by johnny rotten.
The sex pistols as we know them are clearly not made by mclaren but by johnny rotten exclusively.
Malcom just said he was behind everything, if you know little about the sex pistols you know that isn't true.
What malcom have done since? Nothing... What have donne lydon? A lot.
So fuck this legend.

>>6348040
soooo, it was johnny who hired sid because he was such a great bass player? oh, wait, he couldn't even fucking play... there purely for image. look, never mind the bollocks was an entertaining album, but making it out to be some punk fucking landmark is just dumb.

punk was not originated with the pistols... the Kinks were more punk. seriously. and of course, don't forget the fucking Ramones. or MC5. or Iggy...

>>6348086

>implying Never Mind the Bollocks isn't a landmark record

hahahaha oh wow. shows what you know.

I know I posted this in another punk album recommendation thread earlier, but fuck it. Double Nickels on the Dime is far and away my favorite punk album ever.

>>6348109
landmark in the same way the sugarhill gang's rappers delight was landmark. sure it was on the radio and I listened to it as a kid (in fucking houston) in the late 70's... but really.

maybe if you were even alive when that shit came out you'd understand. but you weren't, so stfu.

>>6348127
uh what. no it was a revolutionary, landmark album.

you are an idiot, or a really shitty troll

>>6348127

I'm pretty sure you're about 16, so please stop before you embarass yourself further.

>>6348132
popular != landmark. it wasn't even popular for the music. it was popular because sid was a trainwreck. dumbass.

>>6348149
but it was a landmark, dumbass.

>>6348134
lol assumptions. and dumbasses like you.

>>6348149

See, this here proves how full of shit you are. Pistols were huge long before Sid joined.

>>6348086
> the Kinks were more punk. seriously. and of course, don't forget the fucking Ramones. or MC5. or Iggy...
I consider all of these garage rock or proto-punk if you want, fuck the categories.
Saying nevermind the bollocks is not a must have with stupid arguments is dumb. This is a must have album. Like it or not is not the problem.

Sid when he was hired as bassist was good, he was concerned by the band. Johnny hired him because he was a friend, but also because johnny hated paul cook & steve jones.
Then sid became fucked up by the drugs & by the new york junky rock'n roll fascination he had.
If you want a list i would recomend for someone who don't know anything about punk/hardcore it would be:

Bad brains (first two albums).
Black flag (damaged)
Cows (Daddy has a tail)
Minor threat
The clash (first album).
The damned
X-ray spex (germ free adolescent).
Crass.
Flipper.
Big black.

>>6348154
no, not in the way you think. it wasn't about the music at all. never was. it was about style and shit. and sid being a total trainwreck. people didn't take them seriously in a musical sense. even in the 80's it was about sid and that whole retarded "lifestyle". while they existed it was about, "ooh, what crazy shit will they do next?" never about the music.

You can check out Corrupted for sludge metal, they're a japanese band that sings in spanish

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3h-LbOAtThY

>>6348187

0/10 your troll suit is showing

>>6348184
>essential punk
>no dead Kennedy or the germs

>>6348199
Dead kennedys goddaaaammmiittt

>>6348199

kennedy's are sellouts thats why

>>6348199
I didn't list "the must have", it was more about showing different faces of punk rock, yeah i forgot the DK (and discharge, shame 69, buzzcocks, etc etc...).

>>6348230

Buzzcocks are far more important than they're given credit for.

>>6348086

>Ramones

I honestly have no idea why they are so damn popular.

Ba-ba-bamp-ba ba-ba-ba-bamp-ba I wanna be sedated
Ba-ba-bamp-ba ba-ba-ba-bamp-ba I wanna be sedated
Ba-ba-bamp-ba ba-ba-ba-bamp-ba I wanna be sedated
Ba-ba-bamp-ba ba-ba-ba-bamp-ba I wanna be sedated

Early sex pistols.not their later sellout crap

Judging from OP's picture, and the fact that he lumped metal and punk together, I'm not sure he is going to appreciate bands like Fang, Crass and Flipper.

I say we turn this into a punk/metal share thread

Dangers - Anger
>Got This Yesterday, Hardcore punk, screaming vocals
http://www.mediafire.com/?5azmizmwymf

A Wilhelm Scream - Career Suicide
>Technial Riffs, Appreciable pop-punk
http://www.mediafire.com/?tjdtxjjzyyi

The Flatliners - Destroy To Create
>These Guys sold out completely after this but solid ska/punk

Martyrdod - In Extremis
>Swedish Thrash/Black metal, you know you want it
http://www.mediafire.com/?c2tzayr61yq

>>6349950
Sorry here's the flatliners
http://www.mediafire.com/?3wmttdyjmyg

>>6348333
Maybe because they were one of the first punk bands ever and was fairly successful commerically?

>>6348333
Because the whole "acting like brain-dead teenagers so well that almost everyone in the world actually thinks we're idiots" thing is fucking hilarious. Not to mention Ramones' songs are catchy as hell

>>6349964
>implying commercial success is a plus

>>6347859
Damn right.

Throw in the Ramones, though.

>>6348333
Because they're fun!

Why do you think Andrew W.K. is successful?

>>6350004
>implying i implied that

>>6348215
Jello Biafra isn't a sell-out. The others are.

>>6347850
Punk was awesome and then led to hardcore punk and post-punk which is also awesome. Then you got teenage angsty mainstr-emo crap (which evolved from "emo" which was pretty awesome, but that's another story).

Metal started out decent and then led to like a billion different subgenres, of which the only good one is death.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BPYQO2skWSs

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1sAm5UCJ9vA

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Gvza4x3O7Gk

Also, http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=w93Z1M2r7SA

FUCK METAL

FUCK PUNK

GET SOME DRAGONFORCE

>>6350091

FUCK YEAR!!!

>>6350057
This. East Bay Ray is a cunt.

Trying to sue Biafra for not letting them use Holiday In Cambodia in a Levi's commercial is pretty much the biggest dickmove he could pull.

Punk is for those who want to look forward to a world that will probably never exist but struggle and hope for it anyway.

Metal is for those who want to pretend they live in a magical land with fairies and dragons and ancient evils brought down by knights wearing perfectly shining armor.

>>6350091
>>6350091
Thread has reached full troll throttle now.

>>6350118
Pretty much yeah

The essence of metal.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=00dCnzZJuSg

>>6350118
METALHEAD STATUS = TOLD

>>6350118
>implying punk bands actually do anything other than sing about how fucked up everything is

At least we burn down churches damnit

/joke,just in case people think I'm serious

>>6350142

Aw man, I was hoping you were serious. We could totally, y'know...

>>6350142
>Implying music can't inspire political activism.
>Implying bands don't donate to causes they like.
>Implying you have to bust out the molotovs for every little thing.

>>6350152
I lol'd at the third one.

>>6350142
True, I dislike the dada-like philosophy the punk movement is based on

>Metal is for those who want to pretend they live in a magical land with fairies and dragons and ancient evils brought down by knights wearing perfectly shining armor.
So basically metal is for fa/tg/uys ?

ITT: Punks vs. Metalheads

...It's like the 80s and 90s all over again.

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I'm okay with that, mind you.

>>6350150
Start a shitstorm within a shitstorm? My rule of thumb is, once you see a DF cover, don't piss in the sea of piss to make it overflow and soak all the man bags of the hipsters

>>6350163
Most fa/tg/uys know it's just pretend.

Sometimes I wonder about the metalheads.

Fuck punk.

>>6350193
>metal is my life

>>6350187
Noway man...we're living the dream everyday

First thing to know about metal:

80s metal is the best metal.

It's funny how punk's aren't trying to be musically creative or anything and it's all about the energy, since metalheads strive for musical grandiosity yet punk music is still infinitely better.

>>6350212
Bullshit. Most of you spend half your time tweaking your characters' stats and metagaming. Half of you can't even get into character during actual RP sessions. Don't feed me some bullshit about how you think it's real all the time.

>>6350239
>butthurt GM

>>6350220
I diagree, but still love punk.

>>6350267
Except for pop punk and skate punk. Blegh

Anything like Bad Religion or Propagandhi?

recommendblox

>>6350289
Even the Buzzcocks? How can you not like the Buzzcocks?

>>6350303
They are the exception.

And I'm falling in love with someone And I'm falling in in love in love with someone And I'm falling in love in love with someone you shoulldnntt fall in love wiiithh

>>6350220
Wrong.

Entry level guide for punk rock.

Protopunk and the likes:
New York Dolls - New York Dolls
The Stooges - The Stooges
The Stooges - Fun House
Iggy & the Stooges - Raw Power
MC5 - Kick out the Jams
Television - Marquee Moon
Patti Smith - Horses

Punk Rock:
Ramones - Ramones
Ramones - Rocket to Russia
Sex Pistols - Never Mind the Bollocks, Here's the Sex Pistols
The Clash - The Clash
The Clash - London Calling

Post-Punk:
Joy Division - Unknown Pleasures
Joy Division - Closer
The Fall - Live at the Witch Trials
Suicide - Suicide (1977)
Wire - Pink Flag
Wire - Chairs Missing
The Birthday Party - Junkyard
Gang of Four - Entertainment!
Killing Joke - Killing Joke
Echo & the Bunnymen - Ocean Rain
Public Image Ltd. - Second Edition (Metal Box)

Gothic Rock:
The Cure - Seventeen Seconds
Siouxsie & the Banshees - The Scream
Bauhaus - Mask
The Cure - Pornography
The Cure - Disintegration

Early Alternative Rock/College Rock:
Minutemen - Double Nickels on the Dime
Hüsker Dü - New Day Rising
Hüsker Dü - Warehouse: Songs and Stories
fIREHOSE - If'n
Sugar - Copper Blue
Dinosaur Jr. - You're Living All over Me
Dinosaur Jr. - Bug
The Replacements - Let It Be
R.E.M. - Murmur
Pixies - Surfer Rosa
Pixies - Doolittle
Meat Puppets - Meat Puppets II

Continued...

>>6350483
Experimental Punky Shit/other:
Swans - Cop/Young God/Greed/Holy Money
The Jesus and Mary Chain - Psychocandy
Sonic Youth - EVOL
Sonic Youth - Daydream Nation
Sonic Youth - Goo
Scratch Acid - The Greatest Gift
Big Black - The Rich Man's Eight Track Tape (Atomizer)
The Jesus Lizard - Goat
Butthole Surfers - Locust Abortion Technician
Teenage Jesus & the Jerks - Everything

Emo lawl:
Rites of Spring - End on End
Hüsker Dü - Zen Arcade (kinda emo)

Hardcore Punk:
Bad Brains - Bad Brains
Black Flag - Damaged
Black Flag - My War
Circle Jerks - Group Sex
Dead Kennedys - Fresh Fruit for Rotting Vegetables
Fear - The Record
Flipper - Generic Album
Minor Threat - Complete Discography
Germs - (MIA): The Complete Anthology
D.O.A. - War on 45

>>6350483
>>6350502
This man knows what he is talking about.

>>6350483
>>6350502
thor is a god. Listen to him.
Look specifically at his punk rock and hardcore punk lists.

>>6350502
you're missing The Cows

>>6350592
There is a lot that list is missing. But it's a good starter pack.

>>6350592
Never listened to them.

>>6350620
You really should then. Start with Orphan's Tragedy:
http://www.mediafire.com/?sjqtaziwzyj

>>6350547
>his punk rock and hardcore punk lists.

looks like entry-level garbage

>>6350645

>>6350645
>calls entry-level guide to punk/hardcore entry-level
THANK YOU, CAPTIAN OBVIOUS

Metal
Was: Badass biker music with loud distorted guitars with lyrics about partying, drugs, sex, violence and Satan.
Now: Droning 3-chord whining about being misunderstood, picked-on in high-school and about that "pain on the inside"
Or: Cheesy musical masturbation about dragons, vikings, sorcerers and other Dungeons&Dragons/Lord of the Rings/Boris Vallejo bullshit.

Punk:
Was:Crazy angry anarchist music with fast guitars and lyrics about drugs, kinky sex, rioting, assassinating authority figures and other cool shit that offends uptight assholes.
Now: Whiny teeny-bopper bullshit about break-ups, being a loser, being misunderstood by mommy and daddy, and wanting to be Tony Hawk.
Or: Whiny left-wing vegan bullshit sung by misandrist butt-hurt feminists or pretentious bearded hipster douches who are talentless enough to be considered D.I.Y. but not too angry so they don't scare away the emo-fags or the scene-chicks who secretly used to listen to Avril Lavigne

Bottom-line: Music today sucks

>>6350502
Shit, I forgot Fugazi, MDC, X, Crass, Royal Trux, Buzzcocks, The Jam, Mission of Burma, Stiff Little Fingers, The Smiths, etc.

>>6350643
Will do, thx.