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2deep4you

>>24653722
The posting is purely memetic. The album is actually shit.

>>24653722
You disgust me

>Why does people have different opinion with me?
>Why would someone like music I don't?
>why why why why why why why why

>>24653785
no it isn't

OP just listen to it again, it's a fucking beautiful album, once you come to terms with the IIIIII LOOOOOOOOOOOVE YOOOOOOOOOOOOOU JEEEEEESSSUUUUUUUSSSSSS CHRRRRIIIIIIIIIIISSSTTTTT part.

but yaknow, no-one's forcing you to like it, I hated it the first listen but I gave it another chance and ended up liking it. you can hate it if you want to

It's infinitely relistenable

>>24653785
I suspected that.

>Hey /mu/ why don't I like the album on the very first listen?

Enough with these threads.

Looks like /mu/ trolled another idiot into listening to it. Good job, guys.

inb4 that "it takes more than one listen!" bullshit

>>24653785
wrong.

His lyrics and emotion are absolute god-tier

>>24653896
I listened to it 2 or 3 times.

Sorry, I forgot this is 4chan and fags love trolling.

>>24653722
I've always liked ITAOTS the more I listen to it, but to be fair I only put it on every few months and I'm not a /mu/tant shitposter about it. Maybe try it again?

Unlike King Crimson and OK Computer where the instruments paint the "environment" and the lyrics provide context and bring the song along, the lyrics and vocal melody really are meant to be the focus of the album. The acoustic guitar instrumentation is really just dumbed down folk, and that's where the format comes from.

The impression parts of the instrumentation come from the "background" instruments, like the horns, musical saws, etc.

Speaking of which, even if you don't like Neutral Milk, check out Julian Koster, one of the bands instrumentalists. I think he is what happens if you take acid hundreds of times. He's a colorful fellow:

>>24653853
how else are we to learn about the world around us if we don't ask why?

>>24653938
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=h7PsGipAraQ#t=22m45s

Forgot a link d'oh

>>24653722
I think the music is really good, certainly not GOAT-tier, but you should dive more into the lyrics, they're the best I have ever heard, they read like a good novel written up.

>>24653938
At least a good opinion!
Thanks anon

It's shit. The reason it became a meme is because Pitchfork gave this piece of shit a 10. So now /mu/ can trick newfags into thinking it's actually good.

but OP, the lyrics are the best part

im serious. these lyrics.
CANNOT BE TOUCHED by another album.
in history.

ITT: summer

Op, /mu/ does like that album. Yes, it is also a joke, but it achieved its status for a reason. Do with this information as you wish. I don't care what you listen to.

>>24654002
>ITT: summer
Stopped reading there. Anyone who's been here for at least a year knows that the summer bullshit is just that, bullshit.

>>24654002
OP Here
I'm from Argentina.
Winter here.

So shut the fuck up.

>people think the album is just a meme and not amazing

shiggydiggerydoodoo

>Fleet foxes and OK computer are better than ITAOTS

Give it some time OP. You'll get curious and listen to it again, then you'll understand.

>not knowing that this is one of the best albums ever recorded
stay pleb

>>24653938
This is what is enjoyable about the album. If you don't like it, just move on then. Plenty of people here like it and plenty don't. I would definitely recommend a relisten though.

>>24654069
Why do we always get on everyone's case when they don't love this thing first listen.

the other boards hate us for a reason yknow

ITT no one reads the OP

Why isn't Slint - Spiderland /mu/core, when ITAOTS is?

>>24653883
I like to think he's actually saying "I love you, Jesus Christ", if you follow.

>>24654101
Because ITAOTS is posted much, much more?

Come on you know this.

>>24654113
no he's not

He's saying I love you jesus christ

It paints an atmosphere of nostalgia and sadness. It's all in the vocal delivery, melody and lyrics, enhanced by the lofi recording and accented by flares of sparse instrumentation. it's not really anything special, but sensitive types seem to love it the most.

Honestly, I think there are several albums that do what this album does, and better. Daniel Johnston's 1990, Nick Drake's Pink Moon, Robert Wyatt's Rock Bottom, Joanna Newsom's Have One on Me, etc. It is a good album though, very melodic and catchy, I've only listened maybe five or six times as a whole but I have most of the songs memorised and can easily play them on guitar spontaneously.

>>24654101
because Spiderland is so good it transcends shitty /mu/core status

This album is a troll. It started out with everyone pretending it was the greatest thing evar because of how mediocre it is, then one day some fucktard got peer pressured into actually believing its the greatest thing evar.

>>24654113
The thing about me singing about Christ; I'm not saying "I love you Christianity." I'm not saying "I love all the fucked-up terrible shit that people have done in the name of God." And I'm not preaching belief in Christ. It's just expression. I'm just expressing something I might not even understand. It's a song of confusion, it's a song of hope, it's a song that says this whole world is a big dream-- and who knows what's gonna happen.

>>24654122
Spiderland is posted more than ITCOTCK though. Plus, I feel that everyone thinking /mu/core=most discussed albums are just acting stupid and not realising that the /mu/core albums are all really good. I just feel that a lot of people are saying that /mu/core is entry-level/rubbish etc just to look better than everyone else

>>24653979
dafuq is pitchfork ? i went to their webpage but there is no "about us" data.
Full of reviews and subjective reviews...

Just this? Internet is full of blogs with people doin the same shit

>>24653991
>anything by Bob Dylan
>anything by Nick Drake
>anything by Joni Mitchell
>anything by The Mountain Goats
>anything by Joanna Newsom
>anything by Leonard Cohen

The lyrics aren't "great". Though if you like abstract stream-of-consciousness imagery I suggest you check out Tori Amos.

>>24654036
Easy scooter. That was more aimed at these faggots
>>24653932
>>24653893
If you are one of them, then I'm sorry that you're new and seem like a summerfag.
>>24654021
Summer is easily the worst time on /mu/ annually. Late fall is obviously the best.

>>24654113
>>24654124
>>24654155
Read the booklet-poster-thing inside the CD case.

>>24654174
>implying this artist don't suck utter balls

>>24654191
That quote is from Jeff Mangum himself you fucking dolt.

http://pitchfork.com/features/interviews/7471-neutral-milk-hotel/

>>24654155
fake

jeff doesn't swear
>>24654157
I think ITCOTKC shouldn't be up there. LYSKF should be.

Lmao
>ok computer
>good
>kid a
>good
>loveless
>good

''10/10'' - James T. Rustle

>slint
>good

>>24654216
The link is above your post.

I havent read this thread but I guarantee there are at least two retards saying "derp listen agen".

>>24654210
>implying i implied it wasn't

>>24654216
and he swears twice in oh sister says fuck and shit.

>>24654229
I wasn't being serious

>>24654171
>dafuq is Pitchfork?

You must be new here. All the retard hipsters jack off to Pitchfork. Pitchfork says its good, these fuckheads love it automatically.

>notoriously
I don't think you know what that word means

>>24654216
>Loveless
>Not good

I'm sick of this shit. It's far and away the best /mu/core album and definitely the only great one.

>>24654268
But it's not.

>>24654216
>>Loveless
>>Good
34deep0u

>>24654268
No, it's terrible.

Seriously.

it's really bad.

Everyone says they ''get'' it. I ''get'' it. ''It'' is shit.

>>24654216
Maybe LYSFLATH should be up there, I dont know.
Personally, I dont like Radiohead that much. I think OK Computer is alright but I respect the fact that other people like them. Loveless is good as well.
>He's still trying to diss Scaruffi-core because he feels the need to be edgy about his opinions on /mu/

>>24653722

>trying to understand why /mu/ or people of the sort claim to enjoy anything

good luck OP

>>24654241
Do you never relisten to anything?
How do you into anything? Do you even lift?

Conclusion:
- Album is shit at first listening.
- Listen to it again.
- Lyrics are relevant.
- Hipsters made if famous and that pitchfork stuff.
- NMH is a hipster meme.

>>24654285
>he thinks he gets it
>he thinks there is anything to get unless you are a complete plebe

>>24654319
You cocksmokers will listen to cumfarts over and over again until you "enjoy" it.

>>24654288
You're too polite to be on /mu/ this is ''everything i don't like is terrible you faggots'' - the board.

It's all opinions and as such the only proper method of establishing ''/mu/core'' is based on discussion. Spiderland isn't discussed half as much as any /mu/core album, except maybe Court. And Court should be replaced with Hospice or maybe LYSKF or something more discussed than Spiderland.

>implying i like Hospice
>>24654335
Do you even know what '' is you uncultured swine.

>>24654356
Yes

>>24654387
great

>>24654356
>Go to music board for music discussion
>Get told I shouldn't be here for discussion and instead should shove my opinion down other peoples throats
It's people like you that make this board shit.

>>24654356

I love ITCOTCK and I was here when it was posted and discussed literally everyday. I don't think there's anything left to said or discuss about this album so I don't do it.

If we had to replace ITCOTCK with something else, then LYSFLATH is the only album that deserves its place in a hard /mu/core section. Don't you even mention trash like Hospice please.

>>24654355
2deep4u
So I take it you don't listen to cumfart field recordings too? That's too bad. You're really missing out.

>>24654422
But I was joking.
>>24654428
I agree, I don't like Hospice, it just gets posted a lot and I'd rather see Lift than it.

>>24654428
>/mu/core
>most discussed

>hospice
>five threads every day

Do I even have to say it?

>>24654285

Not that guy, but there's nothing to get. Loveless is remarkable almost exclusively for how it makes guitars sound. The whole album could be 90's radio rock singles if you stripped away the fuzz. And for the record, Loveless is my favorite /mu/core. But it's not deep in the slightest.

>>24654429
>2deep4u

2deepinurass, perhaps, faggot

This album is good because of the lyrics. Read them, and then listen to the album again. When you understand exactly what he's saying, the emotional quality of his voice really shines and is a lot more moving than if you just hear the emotions with no comprehension. My 2 cents anyway.

>>24654428
>>24654449
I like Hospice better than Lift.
I have prepared my body.

>>24654285
It's not about getting it you dumb fuck. It's about appreciating the sheer songcraft, the innovation and the quality of the composition.

>>24654319
I relisten to music I like, you fucking retard. If it takes you more than one listen to "get" the immense simplicity of ITAOTS then you are terrible at listening to music and almost certainly know nothing about composition.

I like ITAOTS but I didn't have to listen to it several times to understand that it was just melodic indie rock with stream-of-consciousness imagery. I read this thread just now and there's a guy claiming about how it took several listens to get past the "I love you jesus christ" part. Not THAT'S retardation. Not only does that have nothing to do with the accessibility of the music, but several listens shouldn't even do anything if you have an innate bias against those words. If anything you enjoy the music in spite of the lyrics, and that shouldn;t take more than one listen to udnerstand.

>>24654449

>>24654500
enjoy appreciating your simplistic boring pop with vacuum cleaners in the background

HUR DUR SO WELL COMPOSED AOTYAY

because proficiency is the source of quality

>>24654500
I could appreciate ITAOTS after I listened to it several times. The first time I listened I thought it was absolute shit. Thanks jackass if I would have never chose to listen to it again I would have missed one of the most magical musical experiences of my life.

>>24654500

I myself never judge albums on my first listen because I tend to get bored during it. Hell, Kid A nearly put me to sleep the first time I heard it, but I was golden by my third listen. I know myself well enough to never judge on first listen, unless I absolutely, unequivocally hated what I was hearing.

If an album is only good because of the lyrics then it isn't a good album.

>>24654476
Wow. Edgy as fuck. You know, high blood pressure is bad for you. Anyway, you better be on your way. The pleb train for pleb town leaves pleb central station in 15 minutes!

>>24654523

>Ok Computer, Fleet Foxes, King Crimson that are notoriously "better" than this NMH album.

King Crimson is the only one that is on par

>>24654580
Damn your ass must be reaaalllll sore, boy.

>>24654578
A valid opinion. There's a little more to ITAOTS, but not much, so you would be justified in calling it bad. I enjoy it, myself.

It's catchy and fun to sing along to.

It's also pretty deep.

Not SUPER popular in the mainstream (even though yes blah every indiefag on the planet knows about it)

Several styles are represented.

Easily interpreted in several ways.

>implying /mu/ likes anything

>>24654578
The instruments are great as well. What are you on about?

>>24654285
By far the best /mu/core album

Loveless > ITAOTS = ITCOTCK > > > > OKC > MPP > > > > > > Kid A

>>24654565
>>24654574
Then you are both bad at listening to music. Need I even say it? You get "bored" listening to music you eventually like on the third listen? You call yourself a music fan? Listening to new music is always an exciting and interesting experience.

Can you even remember why you thought ITAOTS was shit the first time, first guy?

>>24654547
It's more than that you dumb fuck. The vacuum cleaners aren't "in the background", they're part of the dynamic whorling wall of sound. Most of the time they ARE the melodies. The whole album is about structure and texture and chaos and simplicity.

>>24654676

Personally, I'd say

Loveless > Kid A > OKC > ITCOTCK > ITAOTS > MPP

But Loveless is best /mu/core. I agree with you there.

>>24654687

>>24654636
No, there's much more to ITAOTs than the lyrics. It's one of the best indie pop records ever made. I'm not a native english speaker and I've always loved it. I was trying to say that anyone implying that the lyrics are at the forefront are misguided. They aren't.

>>24654618
You have no idea! I've tried lube, but the potato skin still leaves me raw. I didn't get it on the first try though, so I just keep on a-chafin'. It's starting to feel good though. My prostate is starting to enjoy its potato massage. Even though the bloody, ky rectal drip can be a bit alarming, I've found it can be quite envigorating. Now I've opened my butthole to a whole world of possibilities!
Let that be a lesson to you.

>>24654671
>good instruments

Which are used doesn't have anything to do with how they'rre played

>>24654687
Why the fuck are you so mad someone doesn't like your shitty entry level shoegaze album? WHorling wall of sound well shit son it's not like I can get that from any other artists without the MIND FUCKING BOREDOM that overrated semen stained trash generates.

>>24654687

I get bored with something I lack familiarity with. Once I get a runthrough of an album, then I can start to really appreciate it. Still, I didn't hate ITAOTS on first listen. It was okay, actually. I don't hate most things on first listen, really. It just almost never blows me away. There are exceptions, but they're rare.

>>24654754
I'm not mad at all that you don't like it, fuck off. I'm mad that it's being misrepresented.

>/mu/core
>good music

pick one.

>>24654772
That's perfectly valid and is what I was trying to say. If your critical capacities aren't completely fucked then you can tell if something is good or not on first lsiten, even if the lack of familiartiy can make it difficult to follow. If you hate something first listen, like, you genuinely dislike it, why the hell would you listen again? Have you ever re-listened to anything that you didn't think showed promise on first listen? Well, have you?

why do people act like /mu/ is the only place that worships this album? everyone fucking does, and did so before 4chan.

>>24654819

Can't say that I have, but I'm not nearly as judgmental as most of /mu/. The only album I can think of that I've heard in recent memory that I hated was Swans' White Light From The Mouth Of Infinity. Absolutely hated it. Funny, considering Children Of God was one that blew me away on first listen.

>>24654819
You're not allowing for the possibility of human error. It can be hard to hear every aspect of one song on the first listen let alone all of the songs on an album. Then you may or may not even realize the aim of the album. Relistening shouldbea healthy part of any music enthusiast's agenda.

>usually get bored on the first listen

If you USUALLY get bored, then you're listening to way too much shitty music. The only time something bores me and it deserves another listen is if its boring me because I'm not in the mood for that style at the time, but I actually recognize it'll be good when I'm in the mood for it.

ITT: Casuals trying to justify why they only listen to albums once.

>>24654914
that's masochistic and is complete bullshit. The only reason for relistening for something you dislike is if you weren't paying attention.

>>24654982
hahaha FUCK YOU. casuals are the ones that are such poor critics that they need extra listens to form any kind of opinion.

>>24654982

ITT: Autists trying to justify listening to boring, annoying, shitty music repetitively.

>>24654982
*casual
Although at this point the term "tryhard" would have been a better choice.

>>24654982
>>24654983
>>24655006
>>24655016
Holy shit. 11/10 rustling. This is the best autism ever. Screencapping to document for science.

>>24655052
>people listening to shit only once
>tryhard

You're not very intelligent, are you?

>>24655149

I don't get why someone who likes music would take pride in listening to something just one time, unless they absolutely hated it. If it shows promise, give it some time to grow on you. How hard is that? I find that some of the most rewarding albums are ones that take multiple listens to appreciate.

because SEMEN STAINS THE MOUNTAINTOPS