There is no such thing as good dubstep and it probably came from when a neckbeard farted and made a loop out of it.

dub originated with reggae and progressed when dj's in europe got ahold of it. now good/bad dub is up to the listener, i personally love borgore, skream, rusko, nero, and deadmau5

Not trying to be unhelpful, but this really is a very good outline of dubstep, how it came to be and what it is and what it isn't.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dubstep

Came from the garage and grime (pretty interchangable really) scenes in London, and its about using low frequencies and minimal rhythms and melodies to make dance music.

You recognise good by hearing it and thinking, hey, this is good. The bad usually makes me want to tear my ears off.

It doesn't at all sound similar. Check out the differences between Boregore and Martyn. Or Vex'd and Zomby. Or Mala and Pangaea. Or 2562 and Shackleton.

>>14858614
Do you have any good examples of these?

>>14858615
Thanks, I was too lazy to wander over myself. But I still value the human component of /mu/'s input.

>>14858614
you're retarded and confusing reggae dub (1960's-present) with dubstep (approx 1999-present)

>>14858614

btw, the connection between dub reggae and dubstep is the emphasis on bass, something originally picked up on by junglists and the London hardcore scene in the early 90s.

OP, you can distinguish bad dubstep when it's deadmau5.
>>14858614

>>14858653
borgore-nympho, guided relaxation, love, saturday night, sunday morning
skream- midnight request line
nero- innocence
deadmau5- raise your weapon, trick pony

The appeal is the bass OP. If you don't own a subwoofer then don't bother listening.
Great music though

this guy>>14858614 has shit taste

>>14858752
>skream- midnight request line

only good song on there. Borgore is for drunk sluts

The fact that it's extremely bass heavy and dancable makes it really popular in clubs. Ever stood next to a massive sub when dubstep's playing? Feels good man.

>>14858752
NONONONONONONONO

Scuba - Before
Peverelist - Roll With The Punches
Martyn - All I Have Is Memories

Fuck's sake, we want MUSIC here.

>mfw deadmaus5 really does look like a dead fucking mouse.

>>14858819
and this shit is boring as fuck.
Why do people always have to be on one side of the spectrum or the other. Either really bad wobble bullshit or boring as fuck ambient dubstep.

>>14858796
If I hear Boregore or anything similar I know I'm in the wrong place.
I'm a fan of dubstep. Love it. But it still has to be good music.

Also, Twitch - Scuba (Jamie Vex'd remix)
>bit rinsed and is starting to show its age but still a fucking tune.

For fucksake.

>good, little-wobble but still fucking intense dubstep
Nit Grit - Nit Grit
http://www.mediafire.com/?x0j4xzj0fnb

Everybody will find something they like in this. The remix of DJ Shadow is fucking amazing. Such an immersive album if heard on closed headphones.

>>14858859
Ok, early DMZ then.

And how about that Scientist Launches Dubstep Into Outer Space album? Fucking blew my mind.

>>14858614

You are a waste of air and existence. Die painfully.

mt. eden- hide and seek

OP here.

Thanks all for the artist suggestions, I'll be sure to give them a good listen. Keep them coming, if you can. Even YouTube or Last.fm links are helpful too.

So the bass is the focal point of the music then. Thanks for the verification; but I had already gathered that from just hearing the dubstep songs that I have.

I guess what I am personally not understanding about the appeal of dubstep is its "danceability" (if that's even a word). I can understand that with certain forms of house, trance, funk, hip-hop, and contemporary pop music are highly danceable because of the way the melody or vocals sit on top of the relatively consistent bassline. How does one dance to dubstep? It's very erratic in its presentation (to my ears anyway). Do people pop to it? Liquid? Grind on people? Stand in the corner and bop their head? Lean from side to side? I don't get it.

Keep it up, /mu/, you're being very helpful to me.

>>14858913
you only find out when you find yourself doing it, there is no particular dance associated with dubstep in any club I'm been to. I've seen headbanging, hands-in-the-air, skanking, 2stepping, stomping and generally freaking out.

>>14858913
>Stand in the corner and bop their head? Lean from side to side

basically these 2. Real EDM heads would never call what you do to dubstep dancing.

Plastician - Japan
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2ZjbCkRJq44

Zomby - Liquid Dancehall
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tQf0S2lU4Ug

If you like these 2 OP I can send you in the direction of similar stuff

>>14858956
sanity has arrived!

>Ctrl+f burial
>no results

I am disappoint.

>>14858614
dub=/=dubstep, dubstep originated from uk garage and is pretty closely linked to grime.

the dubstep you hear today is different from what it was, trance like bassy beats (search mt eden- classic dubstep artist), now however its bug drops, more and more lyrics involved i.e the likes of flux pavillion, chase and status etc, hardcore dubstep fans call it brostep and they hate the amout of wobbles used, this is not how dubstep was intended

>>14859010
Burial is too garage to be dubstep.
I think he'd hate to be associated with it anyway.

>>14859022
>mt eden- classic dubstep artis

this is bullshit. Don't listen to Mt. Eden

>>14859022
> mt eden- classic dubstep artist
WHAT THE FUCK ARE YOU SAYING ARE YOU RETARDED?

> dubstep was intended

DUBSTEP HAS NEVER HAD AN AGENDA.
It is merely an extension and diversification of garage.

>>14859010
IMO if it's not ~140bpm with half-time drums, it's not dubstep. That's like the main defining factor of dubstep. Burial is garage, a deep dark garage.

>>14858913
you rock your head to the beat and when breakage comes on YOU FUCKING MOSHHHHHHHHHHHH

no but seriously its not that bad, i never liked dubstep either for the same reasons OP, you need to go to a good dubstep club to really experience it trust me you will enjoy it, stoned or not

>>14859070
>~140bpm with half-time drums
We used to call that garage too.

>>14859082
There's someone who has never been to a real club.

>>14859092
Dubstep drums are half the speed of garage. In garage the snares are on/around 2 and 4, on dubtep the snare is on/around 3

OP here.

>>14858956
>>14858864
>>14858819

These suggestions were alright, I didn't want to immediately tear off my headphones when I heard these. Any further listening suggestions? Anyone agree/disagree with these posts? If so, why do you agree or disagree?

>>14858953
>>14858956
This is about what I expected as far as the dancing goes. But if anyone has any other suggestions or opinions, I'd love to hear them. I'm personally a big fan of liquid popping, digitz and tutting, and dubstep seems at first glance to be a modern EDM venue for this type of dancing. (I'm not a big fan of what's going on with "hip-hop" lately, but that's an ENTIRELY different thread topic.)

Thanks for all your help, /mu/. I love picking your brain.

This is me>>14858956
I'm just gonna trip to avoid confusion.

There are 2 very distinct kinds of Dubstep right now. 140 BPM is the only thing these 2 have in common.

One is the "older" style of dubstep which takes most of its elements form 2-step Garage and Reggae Dub. Really slow hypnotizing beats and nice deep sub-bass that shakes your body. It is being ignored by the mainstream, but continues to thrive in many underground circles i.e. DMZ nights and the like

The second is known as "brostep", "WUBstep", or my personal favorite "mid-range cack". Although born in the U.K. the U.S. and Canada are known for making an pushing this bullshit to the masses. Usually utilizing high-pitched noises, heavy drops, and excessive wobbles this style of "dubstep" is popular at parties and with bitches.

>>14859106
kid, dont make me fucking laugh been going to clubs since i was 17, fucking americunt hipster thinks he knows what a club is..... stfu
been to every club in london worth noting

>>14859128
Garage used to have 2 speeds, 2 step and half step.
A more minimal form or garage was being produce in the late 90's which eventually people called dubstep, largely due to music journalism.