>fan pandering

haven't seen that word in a while, do you even remember what it means? of course, nobody here does

either way, it was a meh movie, nothing to get upset over, wish it was worse so we could have a sort of "bahahahahah, its so bad" movie for the fandom.

Then you have autism.
The movie overall was _____ok______

Yeah, it hurt too much for me to even really watch.

>you're not allowed to have an opinion if you haven't watched every single second
Holy lizard fuck am I sick of hearing that. Not just about this movie, but about things that seem shitty in general.

>>12566186
it made me hurt inside, I guess I am alone in thinking I wouldn't even show this to children

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>pandering

No, I and the other intelligent people on this board thought that it was an amusing side story that doesn't effect the main plot of the show and had characters and jokes that were faithful to the property.

>>12566284
You don't think that including all the "fan favourite" characters such as viynl and all that is pandering?

>>12566303
>opinions

>>12566319
but think to yourself, how is that a bad thing?

>>12566261
no, other people didn't like it, they are just the people who left because they can't dissearn what is and isn't canon

>>12566238
Likewise.

>>12566375
How is it a good thing?

>>12566375
I don't care about what is or isn't canon, I just didn't enjoy the movie as the jokes were boring and it just made me cringe at times.

>>12566238

You certainly can have an opinion without seeing all of it, but your opinion will still be less informed than people who have seen it all. I'm not saying there opinion is better automatically, just that I am more inclined to take seriously the opinion of the more well informed person.

>>12566303
>No, I and the other intelligent people
Stopped reading there.

>>12566319

It is, but it didn't change the plot or flow of the movie, so I've not a fuck to give about them.

>>12566303
>implying you are automatically more intelligent for enjoy something others didn't
>trying to get the crowd on side.

Op's picture related

>>12566471
Thats just it. It did nothing for the movie. They could of spent the time actually making the movie better.

>>12566471
That's fair enough, but honestly, I just found it a bit irritating. Maybe I'm just grouchy.

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I went for a walk after watching it. Saw this and snapped a picture. Summed up my mood and opinion of the movie at the time.

Looking back now, I'd say it wasnt quite as horrible as it made me feel when I watched it. I don't think it should have been done in the first place, but in all fairness they did an ok execution of a pretty shitty premise.

>>12566494

Are you implying that animating background characters(that they needed to have anyway) took so much extra time to do that they spent noticeably less time on the movie itself?

I don't think you know how production works.

>>12566533
>Are you implying that animating background characters(that they needed to have anyway) took so much extra time to do that they spent noticeably less time on the movie itself?

Not what I'm referring to. Tell me what did that vending machine scene accomplish and why did it have to be trixie.

>>12566605

It established Twilight doesn't know how that world works. Any why Trixie? Because she's an established character, there is no reason not to use one.

You know, there were a lot of things wrong with this movie. Most of them from dialogue and pacing, which just goes to show that Meghan is a terrible writer.

But... Despite the things wrong with it, I don't exactly hate it. I don't know why, but it has this kind of charm to it.

Unpopular vidya related opinion: I liked Fable 3. There were a lot of things wrong with it and it was a buggy mess, but it had a certain charm to it that kept me playing and play it I did, multiple times. Kind of similar situation here.

I am everything wrong with this fandom

>>12566632
>It established Twilight doesn't know how that world works.

Like everything before that?

>>12566639

No, you can recognize that while it wasn't a great movie it was still at it's core the same FiM that you like.

>>12566666
I completely disagree with you however your pents say I must.

>>12566284
I always rolled my eyes when people kept going on about "pandering" because it became such an overused buzzword deployed against anything popular with the fans.

However, that fucking Trixie cameo in EG... Definite. Fucking. Pandering. Plus, y'know, the story was paper-thin and cliche as hell, the characters were reduced to shallow flanderizations and it was all around shite.

>>12566658

What would you have spent the time on then? What scenes would you want to see in the movie that weren't there?

>>12566146 (OP)
Yep it was shit.
Don't listen to anyone saying otherwise, they are more likely to be baiting than simply having shit taste.

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>>12566666
Nice qunits

Anyway, while that guy may think there was a charm, I couldn't and only saw the bad things for what they were.

It's not about the fact its MLP, its the fact it was a bad movie

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>>12566666

Pandering is bad because it's changing something intended for younger audiences to meet the medical needs of autists everywhere.
By defending pandering, you are in turn proving that you are at least partially/largely autistic.

>>12566693
>What scenes would you want to see in the movie that weren't there?

What I want doesn't mean shit.

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>>12566692

>Complains about over used buzzwords
>Uses "flanderizations" ironically.

>>12566721

Gotcha, so you just hate things without knowing what you actually want. Good to know that you aren't worth listening to.

>>12566736
No I know what I want. I know others don't give a rats ass.
Your holier-than-thou attitude just proves it.

>>12566423
"Hey what did you think of (thing)?"
"I didn't like (thing) at all, I found it pretty shitty so I didn't finish all of (thing)."
"NO! Your opinion is wrong because you didn't get through all of (thing)! You're uninformed and unintelligent!"

>>12566765

I give a rats ass. Tell me what scenes you would have wanted in the movie.

>>12566692
>pandering
Shut up. Anyone who uses this word is an absolute idiot.
I don't even understand the point about complaining about something like this. Why is it wrong that the producers notice what's popular and decide to make a short reference to it?
You guys are a bunch of babies.

>>12566639

>Meghan is a terrible writer
>The best episodes from season one were from her

Whatever you say buddy.

>>12566778

Good job literally not reading a thing I said.

>There will never be a TV show for nor/mlp/eople.
>No matter what, there will never be anything that could meet the needs of nor/mlp/eople.
>Money controls everything.
>Money will never be abolished.
>Entertainment will never be as good as it could have been.
>Entertainment value is decreasing faster than the American dollar ever did.
>You will never make a great TV show that will never be jewed out.

>>12566836
Damn truths.

>>12566146 (OP)
How can a film be considered "pandering" when the mere mention of its existence sparked widespread backlash from the fandom? You can't just take everything you don't like about the series and automatically assume that it was meant to appease people who are "less" than you. The fact that you're trying to stroke your ego over your disappointment in a children's movie is pathetic.

>>12566794

>You guys are a bunch of babies.

Welcome to 4chan.

>>12566146 (OP)

It only had pandering in it because they knew the rest of the movie was mediocre and were trying to apologise. They aren't allowed to say anything against it at all, because Hasbro would fire them.

Say what you want about the writers, but they generally do a good job. The movie being as bad as it is meant that they clearly shared Lauren's feelings about the whole thing, but knew that if they protested Hasbro would just fire them and replace them with yesmen who would do everything they asked, not bothering to make the show good in the slightest.

So I forgive them for EqG, because even if it was shit, to me it looks like they are trying their hardest to keep the show good.

>>12566836
>There will never be a TV show for nor/mlp/eople.
>No matter what, there will never be anything that could meet the needs of nor/mlp/eople
But there already was one... They can still fix it, right? It's not too late, r-right?

>>12566836
>Because /mlp/ has unreasonable standards
>Because the hypothetically perfect show in your imagination can never be recreated in real life
>Because you can't cope with the fact that entertainment changes over time
>Because you're way too young to be making "kids these days" rants

>>12566890

>Typing out stutters

Please adopt a tripcode so I can filter you.

>>12566911
S-sent ;)

>>12566796
Meghan can write under instruction. She can write when she's working with other people on an episode, and she ends up writing the script alone.

EQG, Crystal Empire and Canterlot Wedding prove she cannot write on her own. She is the head writer, and she is the reason the show is going to shit.

She's got a bad case of Moffat Syndrome.

>>12566805
I said I'm sick of people telling me I'm not allowed to declare something I find shitty to actually be shitty unless I subject myself to every irritating micro second of it.
What I got from what you said is "fine, have your opinion but you're not informed. I'm going to ignore you and not take you or your opinion seriously."
Which is exactly the shit I'm really fucking tired of.

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>>12566907
>this is what the averge shit-eater brownie -actually- believes

>>12566964

And that's not what I said at all. What I said is that all things considered equal, I will listen MORE to the person who has watched the whole thing than the person that didn't. I did not say I will ignore you, just that I will not let your opinion effect me as much.

Please stop over-reacting and interpreting the entire world in such black and white terms.

>>12566974
Nice strawman, really helps your case.

>>12566855
I went in fully expecting a kids film, I was not worried about that.

What I got was something which I thought even kids wouldn't enjoy.

Also why did they have to include Trixie in the vending machine scene? It would have been better if they focused on humour instead of throwing whichever fan favourites they could into the mix.

That would make a more decent film.

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>>12566960
>EQG, Crystal Empire and Canterlot Wedding prove she cannot write on her own.
>Crystal Empire and Canterlot Wedding prove she cannot write on her own.
>Canterlot Wedding prove she cannot write on her own.
>Canterlot Wedding
my fucking nigga

>>12566964
Bull shit. If there's anything that happens on /mlp/, it's that finding an episode shitty is the status quo and you have to have a PhD in film critique to even suggest the idea that you liked an episode.

>>12567014
What case?
Just pointing out how you generalize /mlp/ as a hivemind that most suits your own opinions and views, similar to what all shit-eaters do.

>>12566412
props on avoiding the question, explain your reasoning about why having fan favorites in the background is bad or replacing them with random placeholders is good.

>>12567022
Because she's a memorable character from the show. Do you think kids are incapable of recognizing a prominent villain in the series?

>>12566862
>if they protested Hasbro would just fire them and replace them with yesmen who would do everything they asked, not bothering to make the show good in the slightest.
A million times this. I'd rather we had to suffer this shitty movie if it means there's still a glimmer of hope for the future of the show.

Much as people rant at the current staff (especially Meghan), I'd take each and every one of them over the kind of people who'd happily tongue Hasbro's ass while they utterly destroy the show for merch opportunities. inb4 they've already done it - They really haven't.

>>12566146 (OP)
I'm with you OP the movie is shit
I have no problem with people liking it but I do have problems when they try to force you to like it like ITT

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>>12566412

>>12567040
You do realize that different people will always have conflicting opinions on different episodes, right? It's almost like you've never even been in an episode discussion thread.

>>12567110
Some kids might go "oh look it's that bad guy!" and Some kids will wonder what the fuck is they missed that episode for example.

We can't get away from any characters/news as they're plastered on the board each and every time something happens.

we're the only guaranteed audience members who'd properly get that. Some kids might but other won't, so yes, thats pandering. They wasted an opportunity for something funny, to include a character mostly likely aimed at us.

>>12567183
This. I found the movie to be garbage. I'm not going to try and convert them like a priest. Fucking no matter what someones going to like/dislike what you dislike/like. And when you give your opinion no one actually cares.
This fucking sense.

>>12567225
Can I get this in english.

>>12567114
But that's wrong, nigger.
I'd rather have them quit and work with other non-jew or less-jewish companies than Hasbro to work on new, original content.
You're more selfish for wanting MLP:FiM to be perpetually carried along as long as it has already when we already have some means to keep the animation going, despite some of the shitty teams in the fandom who could keep it up.

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>>12567225

>>12567278
Why the fuck did it look like spanish for a second I need sleep.

>>12567040
I didn't say it was a phenomenon exclusive to /mlp/
>>12567010
*affect

>>12567300
I've not yet attempted to say that he was wrong, but let's not resort to childish misdirections.

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Three more months

>>12567345
this is true.

>>12567229
I found all people needlessly antagonizing /mlp/'s attitude to make their argument more compelling have newfag reeking all over them

>>12567343
>but let's not resort to childish misdirections.
Too late

>>12567282
they still need to eat, i doubt they want to look for a new job in this economy

>>12567300
he is right, though, he avoided my question completely

>>12567183
>>12567245
I disagree, I thought the movie was ok
but you're making a hell of a lot of sense in the rest of that comment
honestly I'm shocked there are people who think it's anything other than between 4-6/10

fucking hell it wasn't incredible but it wasn't unwatchable and that's coming from a die hard twifag even with you know who shitting up the entire movie

>>12567392
Yeah about him. Did he even do anything or was I watching a similar movie that guy was nothing but waste of space.

>>12567374
Y-you know we are on 4chan, right?

What did you expect? How long have you been here bro?

>>12567282
If you want the show to end why are you still here?

>we already have some means to keep the animation going
>implying animation is the most important thing
Yeah great, fans can animate. Can they write? Can they VA to the same standard? Can they stop the rest of the fandom hating and creating drama about whatever they make? Just look at what we have so far - Snowdrop and Double fucking Rainboom. Everybody sure loves those.

>>12566146 (OP)
I agree completely.

So far, I've got nothing but disagreement at best and flack at worst for pre-maturely predicting that EqG would be horrible in my video.

To be frank I don't think I'll ever watch it. I don't want to watch some low-quality upload, but I also don't want to buy the DVD.

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>>12567392

>/mlp/ hates Flash Sentry
>Constantly complains the movie did have enough of him or do enough with him

>pandering

Can we just make this a bannable word?

>>12567512

Plenty of Blu Ray rips now.

>>12567523
>4chan
>bannable word
What the fuck....

>>12567512
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WLIKPS4gsT4&feature=endscreen

Good quality upload, fill yer boots anon

>>12567521

>didn't

>>12567523
But that would be pandering to the non-panderingfags.

>>12567543

/v/ did it all the time, they had to.

>>12567543
4chan has had wordfilters for years. You new or something?

>>12567577
Counting lurking I've only been here 14 months.
So some things don't come up.

>>12567428
he was the jar jar binx of the MLPverse

he could've worked if he was more casual and the crush wasn't the only thing discussed when he was on screen

big romantic guy + heavily implied romance = succes
casual guy + casually implied romance(capable of having a conversation that isn't about how they think they other one is cute) = success

Casual guy + heavily implued romance = complete mess

>>12567521
it was because the romance was there whether we like it or not, if you're going to add something no one wants you mas as well TRY and make it something great

>>12567374
I'm inclined to agree.

It's rather funny how most people arguing for how EQG is actually a good movie, almost always tend to resort to painting /mlp/ as a hivemind of a hate bandwagon.

For me, this movie already had a lot working against it. To me anything set in a high school is already painful and cringey, so to bring this to the point of being tolerable it would have to have been an absolutely fucking fantastic movie.

>>12567599
Thats what I figured.
They may have done that on purpose though. Made him as horrible as possible so no one would want him back.

>>12567521
>implying hivemind
I wouldn't mind Flash if his personality wasn't cardboard

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I'll concede one thing in the movies favour

How fucking adorkable is this face?

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>>12567635
>To me anything set in a high school is already painful and cringey,

How unfortunate.

>>12567656
hopefully but we all know that won't stop hasbro
in that scenario Meghan is the one protecting us from the whole boyfriend thing

>>12567681
that's what he's implying, if you're going to add a love interest at least try and make him likeable unless the comment above is true and Meghan doesn't want him back and having him forced on her

>>12567595
Well then you're fucking new. Lurk here a few more years, and come back later.

>>12567608
The popular opinion is always the wrong one - Everyone only agrees with it to be popular even if they have perfectly well thought out arguments, didn't you learn anything in hipster school?

>>12567775
Yeah nice try fuck off.

>>12567720
silly anon.
Japanese high schools are not western high schools.

>>12567114

Exactly. No one in the team is really allowed to say anything negative about the movie or the stuff Hasbro forces them to do. All they CAN do is make it as comfortable as they can for us.

A Canterlot Wedding is a great example of this. Not a single person thought that it would be good because of it's concept, but they made it work.

Magical Mystery Cure was the first part of a three-parter, so they haven't even had a chance to make Twilicorn better for us yet. Though her trying to fly + wingboners in the movie was pretty funny, so it went up a notch for me

EqG was just such a bad premise that they didn't even want to try to make it good, but they at least tried to make us happy. I doubt they will so much as reference the movie in the show, which is sorta-confirmed by Meghan by saying that Brad won't be in S4.

>>12567726
I may be giving her too much credit but I would like to beileve the corporation is the problem before the person.

>>12567825

Who the hell is Brad?

>>12567836
well this is the woman that fancy pants and he went form stuck up fussyman to god tier bro

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>>12567689
Well, how "fucking adorkable" wouldn't it have been on pony Twilight?

>>12567689
you got that smile of hers after the fight right before celestia calls to her attention?

>>12567868
You've got a point. Its just something doesn't sit well with me when I think about everything.

>>12567861
fanon name his real name is gordin gofast

he was the love interest

IMO it was a little bit cringeworthy, but what i really want to see is a shooped version of the image where sunset shimmer is lying in the crater replaced with yamcha

>>12567931
I'd love it if he was in the show for like five minutes and then immediately taken out and wiped from the universe by a new villain.

>>12567689

It makes my spine tingly.

>tfw no Twilight from any world will ever make that face at you

>>12567971
Or...what if Flash is one of the villains! Yes, he can be a shape shifting alien...of some kind. I dunno.

>>12567971
Inb4 poochy scenario

"Hey Twilight just letting you know I'm leaving forever and won't be back"

and even if the fans don't believe that he trips walking down the stairs and breaks his neck

>>12567884
I agree in that we all know human pinkie and rarity are the only decent humans.

But shit you say one good thing about the film despite thinking the rest of it's crap and still...

>>12568016
That would be the best way to do it. Kids wouldn't care and everyone would get a kick out of it.

>>12568015
Or if he was actually a spirit projected from a banshee who feeds off of emotions coming from twilight.

>>12568015
that actually would've made the story a millions times more interesting

If the job of stealing the crown was so complex sunset needed a corrupt guard on the inside
after finding out sunset ended up getting caught and making a dash for the mirror and later he goes through after everyone else goes to bed on the first night and makes sure Twilight doesn't stop Sunset's plans

>>12568088
And all of them work for a bigger bad who is locked in tarturus if he can get one of them to get the crown he can break out and destroy the entire universe.

>>12567825
Agreed.

>her trying to fly + wingboners in the movie was pretty funny
That goddamn beginning really lulled me into a false sense of security. Things were going well until Celestia's reason the other pones couldn't go was "It could upset the balance". That was the moment I realized the writing staff really did not give a toss about this film.

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>>12568117
>>12568088

>>12568117
don't be retarded
they're all working for pony Professor Moriarty who has developed an unhealthy obsession with twilight after acknowledging her as the only pony in the world who could challenge hi intellect

>>12568164
That sounds pretty good to.

What if Sunset Shimmer and Flash were both changelings working for Chrysalis after all?

What if Lauren Fast was actually flying to the castle and Libman was working for Hasbro all along?

>>12568180
I just want a villain who's actually a criminal genius, like a REAL GENIUS not just some guy in a cloak or the queen of the changelings who comes up with a straightforwad evil scheme

I want twist after twist after twist and not the fucking pony!!

>>12568228
Like a villain who is a problem for a whole season.
The only scenes we get of him is him playing a chess game around the entire situation.

>>12568138

I really don't blame them. The team does not see the movie as canon, and neither do I. In fact, I see it like that Fiona & Cake episode of Adventure Time, where it was all Ice King's fanfiction. Discord wrote it, but is really bad at writing. That is my headcanon. At least we got a good song.

>>12568228
A wild Moriarty appears!

>>12568247

This won't likely happen because it makes syndication more difficult. Most shows take the episodic format so that they can air episodes in any order.

>>12568247

That reminds me of when I first heard about Discord. I thought that plot would be a series lonfg thing, and they'd have to go on a big adventure to get the Elements back. But I also thought he'd be a generic evil male alicorn villain, so I can't say I'm too sad about that.

>>12568228
the only villain who actually know how to plan was discord even though he overestimated his victory at the beginning he was the only villain who realized that he was in a show where friendship is a powerful thing and focused on attacking the mane 6 biggest strengths

too bad he was pussyfied I really wanted to see more of him as a bad guy

>>12568360
I like to think discord is just buying his time and waiting. He did say he would only be good most of the time.

>>12568379

I think that just means he won't try to take over the world. Meghan said herself that she wanted Discord to be simply "not a bad guy" so he could be in future episodes without having the need to stick him back in stone, but she also said that he wasn't a "good guy". I could see that super-hero episode being due to him.

Like Spike says "I wish I wasn't always a sidekick." Discord hears him, sends them into a world where the main 6 and him are super-heroes and he has to end up saving them. At the end he gives a little speech about being careful what you wish for, and then Discord turns Celestia bald. The end.

>>12568769
Is that really what happens?