>>926614
TL;DR

>>926638
tl;dr

love and tolerate faggot

I stopped worrying and learned to love the world.

Shall I remind you what happens when you advertise that you're a nice guy? That you become a shit magnet for every tranny,faggot,retard in the world? That those people you may attract aren't as love and tolerant as you?

Love and tolerance...
The word tolerance would of been enough...
A more explicit word or phrase such as ''Tolerate a few things, keep an open mind, but I shall not tolerate your crap forever.''
A copy-pasta would or a link to some google docs would of been nice.

Because love and tolerate is a bullshit phrase from ponychan that stemmed from the original, "Tolerate Intolerance"

"Love and Tolerance" is simply less tolerating the intolerant and times 100 the circlejerk.

>>926773
Yeah I'm not really following "love and tolerance" so much as "pull your head out of your ass and stop being a dick"

tl;dr

no.

>926880
But that's the point I'm trying to make. You're not better than me and I'm not better than you. It's all on the same level, faggot

>mfw op has a point

>>926935
But I am better then you.

eat shit faggot

>>926956

OP I've been loving and tolerating since before mlp, for it's in my scout nature.

>take every little chance you can possibly take (within reason, of course) to be nice to people, and see what happens

I do this normally. I did this long before watching MLP. I hate getting angry at people because when I do I feel like I've been outsmarted.

If you need a thread like this to turn you into a decent human being then you're already hopeless... You can't demand love and tolerance from someone, it has to come naturally, else they're just a douche who's acting. Pic related

OP
I would like you to take a moment to realize that we are all on the internet right now and probably act completely differently in real life. For example, I doubt you're the preachy cock you appear to be here.

But hey, I'll bite. For one, learning to truly love (people in general that is, not being in love) requires immense life experience if you are actually doing it. Most likely, you are just imitating it. Furthermore, the show teaches friendship and harmony, which end up being far different concepts than love and tolerance. The latter really are just bull shit made up by bronies (in regards to the show).

Anyways, working your way up to actually feeling the Ghandi/Jesus love requires you to, well, feel it, not simply imitate it. You cannot just condition yourself into it by practicing it. This is where the church fails miserably, for instance.

>>927375
Hey, that's what i said... only better... and less insulting... also it has a point... (not op, i'm the post above yours)

>>927274
ffs, don't get me started on that backwards, pre1940s idea of what it means to be a man Mormon catastrophe . The scouts don't teach tolerance, they teach obedience, and a healthy hate for gays and atheists. Eagle scout here

>>927394
the good kind of hivemind
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>>927396
>Christian organization
>Healthy Hate
>for sodomite sinners
>for godless commies
>"BAD"
Faggot.

>>927396
I too am an Eagle scout. I got something completely different out of my scouting experience. What you have mentioned about the intolerance and hate that scouting promotes through very obvious undertones is true. But the thing is, I realized this early in my scouting career. I resented this, after all those messages completely conflict with the scout oath and law. After all how can I be trustworthy, loyal, helpful, friendly, curtious, kind, obedient, cheerful, thrifty, brave, clean, and reverent to only some people but not others? How could I help other people at all times but only certain people? I didn't like what I was seeing, and neither did my fellow scouts. We decided we'd basically ignore all the bullshit and cut straight to life lessons. Scouting has taught me a lot, and I can say that a lot of what scouting has taught me is shown many times over in mlp. As for loving and tolerating, while those may be different concepts than friendship and harmony they definitely come from it.

>>927461
Love and tolerance doesn't mean being spineless cowards.
American Scouts were founded to combat rising Bolshevism and internationalism. It is literally American version of fascist Brownshirt, pee wee version, or the Soviet Pioneers.

>>927498
No shit, it's not about what they teach you. It's about what you learn. You keep bringing up old shit that's hardly relevant anymore. The fact of the matter is, no one is around to teach that stuff anymore. I mean if you talk to some of the old goats it's pretty evident, but hardly so today. you know what My troop did ? We fuckign tied knots and competed in camporees that taught us teamwork and perseverance. Also scouting isn't what it was like back then, new ideals and new ways of teaching are coming out. You would probably know that if you kept up with your troops meetings. Who the fuck am I kidding, I haven't gone back in months since I ealged out.

>>926614
nigga you gay

>>926614
I also want to reiterate the point that I have made before:

"Love and tolerate" is a troll tactic, and should remain as such. It was pretty much a way to be passive aggressive and really piss people off. It's also hilariously ironic, considering we are on 4chan. It was, is, and will continue to be a fuckin' joke. A joke that not everyone gets, which makes it funnier.

>mfw newfriends don't realize by saying they hate "love and tolerate" they are just putting a giant target on their backs to be trolled into oblivion by said love and tolerance.

Also, yeah OP's message is a legit improve-your-life skill, and should actually improve the quality of people's lives, should they actually heed those words... not likely, but meh

>>927577

>>927671
Joking or not, I don't give two shits.
I'll continue to love and tolerate, by tolerating the fact that people will only use this as a joke for the rest of my life and call me a faggot because I'm trying to be a good person.

>>926614
If you weren't already doing this before you started watching poni, you suck at life and need to kill yourself.

Read some Dale Carnegie and GTFO.

- Real bronies shout love an tolerance everywhere

- Here people that watches the show, participate, contribute with ideas and works for fandom don´t shout love and tolerance

- Even if these people on real life are good persons, they don´t deserve to participate in the fandom

- Because they think different, they are worse than me


This is hypocrite, like every radical religious group. "You are a good person and pratice good actions, but you don´t use the costumes and dogmas from our religion, so you will suffer in hell from eternity"

Please stop, sometimes you´re worse than the haters, at least haters are sinceres hating us, they don´t pretend saying "oh, but we love you, but please be like us".

You´re dividing your so loved "brony fandom" saying that only guys and girls being exactly what you expect are the real fans, this is a bad thing.

So, pratice for real your so precious "love and tolerance" respecting the people like me, who really like the show, but don´t need to worship this like a religion, I pratice this, and normally I don´t reply threads like this, but this is boring, every day we have soemone that complains because this is not your imageboard or forum that he/she are accustomed.

Just learn, this is different, sometimes is full of discussions and hate, yes, but is a free board, with people from various degrees of "bronism", respect this and don´t shove in our throats your morals, this is a thing that a 4chan user will never accept.

thanks for read, and yes my english is bad because I´m a foreigner, sorry about this.

Meh. I spend so much time in real life being loving and tolerant it ridiculous for a person who holds as cynical and nihilistic a world view as I do. My family, clients and friends all count on me to be loyal, supportive, open, encouraging and emotionally open. And it's exhausting. But it serves me well.

I sure as hell am not going to act like that online, where it accomplishes nothing. Even if I am posting on a board dedicated to cartoon ponies who learn life lessons about friendship. Still gonna be a little of the bastard I can't be all the time IRL because I'm on fucking 4chan, and that's what this place is for.

>>926614

>>927827
>Use big words
>Still sound like an idiot

I guess this guy can't wrap his head around the idea of optimism. For a guy who apparently has taken psych 101 or read an article about it, this seems like a strange concept to overlook.

>>927994
Theres no such thing as a big word, if you cant understand it then dont comment on it.

>>927994
>guess this guy can't wrap his head around the idea of optimism.

What does that have to do with anything?

>>928061
not the guy you're replying to, but I think what that anon means, is to not take the phrase so literally. Be an optimistic and nice person to others, and they will follow from your example.

>>928073
That doesnt mean hes not right though.

>>928023
>implying I didn't understand that he's an idiot who was trying to sound smart by using a thesaurus

>>928086
So you're attacking his credibility because he had an advanced diction?

>>928073
Straight up
>>928085
But he's still wrong.

>>926614
Shit, I love the phrase, im not afraid to nigga knock someone in self defense but other than that nah Ill be chill with everyone

>>926614
>Look at FiM. It's a TV show made to teach children about friendship, kindness and being fair. Stuff of that sort. We do teach our children such things for a reason, right?

You don't sound so sure yourself ...

>>928098
No, I'm saying his idiotic argument is hidden behind overly complicated wording.

He could have said people can't tolerate because there is a limit to how rational and altruistic someone can be. People who do tolerate are/are becoming delusional. Tolerating is for idiots who don't understand their own psychology. Love is related only to personal relationships.

That is his argument in plain English. He is clearly bullshitting.

>>928168
That' not very nice, i could offer a simplification of principle if you so desire.

>>928168
Is that a no?

>>928175
>>928200
I don't understand what you're offering here... A simplification of "love and tolerate"? Or of his argument? Or of what principal do you speak?

>>928230
principle*
cough, excuse me

>>928230
The general consensus i've gathered, from reading down the devolved discussion, is that someone has misconstrued the conceptual focal foundations of my posts principle point.

Or rather, you aren't properly appropriating the context of my words.

I was addressing the mental extremes of this fandoms underlying motif's. Being irrational 'tolerance' and 'love'. The variables were focused almost entirely within the boundary parameters of irrationality.

>>928267
>within the boundary parameters of irrationality.

*Illogicality.

This thread is now about Linguistics...
Also people who recently found out what a thesaurus is...

>>928301
>This thread is now about Linguistics...

How frightened you must be.

>Also people who recently found out what a thesaurus is...

On the topic of linguistics, you are addressing me indirectly yet implying multiple individuals conforming to your observed 'fallacious' mentality.

>>928301
>thesaurus
That's one of those dinosaur things from Jurassic park right?

>>928267
Oh shit, paid no attention to the fact that was you.

Anyway, using vocabulary like that just makes you more difficult to understand. It hinders your ability to communicate. Sure, I can figure out what the hell you're trying to say, but honestly I'm growing weary of trying. I assume the point is to make yourself hard to understand... I assume you're trying to rustle mah jimmies over here.

Regardless, I'm not misunderstanding you. I am saying you are wrong. The idea of "love and tolerate" is only taken to the extreme when done so to troll, which is the origins of the term on 4chan. This should be obvious.

Otherwise the notion is a simple one of trying to be an understanding, and not hateful, person. This is not a self-delusion as you put it, nor is it irrational. It's a way to try to improve one's outlook on life in an attempt to foster happiness. That, but mostly it's just for trolling.

>uses a semi colon to try to seem smart
>uses it wrong

>>928359
>Anyway, using vocabulary like that just makes you more difficult to understand.
I'll alert the scientific community right away.

>It hinders your ability to communicate.
It greatly enhances it, thinking otherwise is fallacious in reason and poisonous to the mind. Please keep these views to yourself if you are incapable of change.

>I assume the point is to make yourself hard to understand... I assume you're trying to rustle mah jimmies over here.

The point was what it was, i expressed it clearly and with ample concision respective to what i 'could' have written.

>Otherwise the notion is a simple one of trying to be an understanding, and not hateful, person.

Hate is an emotion like any other, it's expression is physiologically necessary.

>This is not a self-delusion as you put it, nor is it irrational. It's a way to try to improve one's outlook on life in an attempt to foster happiness. That, but mostly it's just for trolling.

First of all, an argument from irrelevant conclusion get's you no where combined with that idiotic fallacy of false cause. But here's the problem, hate and pain are natural aspects of our biology.

You are conforming to them as we converse. Please do not put yourself in an educational position under the guise of reason or actuality, ever.

>>928371
argumentum ad hominem

>>928371
>Can't spell "semicolon".

>>928409
>implying the use of fancy words makes your arguments stronger

>>928359
>>928409
holy shit this thread just got 200% more autistic

>>928501
Agreed.

>>928501
Then leave so it can go back to normal.

>>928409
Son, I ain't got time for this madness. You've got your poorly expressed (Regardless of what you choose to believe, muddying your point down in complicated sentences is a hindrance to communication. In a good discussion, you make yourself plain to understand and do your best to explain things clearly.) opinions and I have mine.

Sure hate, pain, anger, they are all natural things, but I dare say they are not pleasurable things and that most people try to minimize them. Thus you have "love and tolerate" a method with which to try to reduce the hate and anger people feel. The minimizing of pain and maximizing of pleasure is not irrational, it is, in fact, instinctual.

Anyway, I have no more time, so I'm afraid this'll be my last post. Perhaps some other anon will pick things up. Otherwise I leave you with this:

>implying I'm mad

>>928540
Well considering the fact you won't be responding i'll simply leave your argument where it is, a pleasure discussing this with you.

About to write the longest post ever, directed solely at Ardesco, but first: it's odd to me that people in this thread are saying that /mlp/ doesn't tolerate, because the first thread I ever posted in here was one of the most civil, polite, open-minded discussions I've ever had online. I know that doesn't prove shit, but it's why I've continued visiting /mlp/; the other communities do a really half-assed job of tolerating.

>>928409
About the vocabulary: know thy audience. Your discourse would fit well in a formal psychological study (or anything formal, really), but this is not exactly a formal place. Also, it's best to have an eye for redundancy. But, I digress.

On the subject of your screencapped comment that started this pseudo-intellectual shitstorm: Note that different people have different reactions to the same thing, and their emotional reactions are based on their own perspective and experience, which are subject to change.

While you're correct in that forcing oneself to appear tolerant when one's genuine reaction is rage or hatred has a negative impact on mental health, it is not impossible to have a genuine reaction that is not shared by someone else, or many other people.
[too long for one post, continuing below]

>>928409
[continuing]
The idea of tolerating intolerance may seem irrational to you or me, but it is, in fact, possible. It's not common; I suspect showing tolerance towards brony haters is *primarily* used as a counter-trolling and/or conversion technique.

The idea of tolerating someone who has watched the show and does not like it, or who refuses to watch the show, is perfectly reasonable and common. It's simple enough to understand that the show is not for everyone, and simple enough to understand (or in my case, to learn) that some people are unable to overcome their inhibitions, and that trying to force such a person to give the show a chance is not only futile, but insensitive. Understanding and respect are the core components of tolerance (just so we're on the same page, "tolerance" here is meant to mean not intentionally alienating or insulting someone just because they don't share your opinions).

Lastly, since you seem to value formality, keep in mind that mutual respect is crucial to a formal environment, and while voicing one's opinion is generally reasonable, telling someone that they are clinically insane for not sharing your reaction to something is not respectful. I realize you haven't received much respect from these people either, but I don't think most people have heard of Prisoner's Dilemma. Wrapping up an antagonizing statement in formal vocabulary is like putting a bowtie on a turd; you only achieve true formality through both formal language AND respect.
If you had the patience to read all of that, you have my thanks.

>>929296
>>929280
Thank you for detailing those aspects of my punctuality, i appreciate the criticism, i seldom get it beyond inane and fallacious attacks of character.

I've been told before im lacking in the conceptual mutuality department. And lastly, i agree entirely with most of what you've written.

>>926614
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We are all hypocritical arrogant faggots here so why don't we just leave this thread and move along?

ITT:

LOL OP FUCK U I AINT GONNA LOVE AND TOLERATE IM A FUCKING ALPHA BADASS

Ever wonder why you have no friends?

>>929422
>mfw
Because someone is wrong on the Internet, and of course that injustice cannot stand!

>>929365
Good to hear. It took me an hour to write all that; I was afraid it would get ignored, or that you had left already.

I guess we aren't actually disagreeing then, at least not as much as I thought. The most difficult part of communication through writing is the complete loss of tone, since that's dependent on the voice and facial expressions, thus leading to many misunderstandings. By the way, that's nice art you attach to your comments. Anyway, I'll be off for a few hours, but thanks for listening.