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I am pretty convinced there has never been one that didn't suck

>>626086
Oh, it was just a small typo, shit happens. Who really cares.

>They're not that different

Pictures
Interactive

>>>/jp/

Wait, what's the difference between a visual novel and a graphic novel/comic or just manga in general?

>>626094
It has music and sometimes voices

GET OUT KS DEVS!

>>626097
Get the fuck out.

>>626097
"Oh no, music, voices, scary!" Come on, it's still not that different. You're mostly just reading it anyway.

>>626091

Small typo? The whole sentence is incoherent.

>>626118
No, dude, seriously. It's true. I know crazy right? Well it's a fact and you'll just have to live with it.

Hotel Dusk: The Secret of Room 215 for the DS.

Best Visual novel on the DS, and a really fucking good story.

Ok now before things get all heated up in here I just want to say the Maeda Jun is the most overrated faggot involved in the medium. Just wanted to get that off my chest.

Umineko is a really fun mystery, its definitely anime-ish but the story is top-notch and interestingly done. Writing is pulp, but then again its a VN so as long as you aren't expecting much its pretty good.

Considering any VN 'literature' is a huge stretch, they are closer to graphic novels.

>>626164
His shit is popular because he writes dramas that don't have sex scenes with h-game troupes.

>>626184
His troupes seem very h-game to me. imo.

H + T p : // @ t . K I M M o Á . 5 3 /

Also: anything made by Nasu is pretentious shit

The only one I played was Katawa Shoujo (Disability Girls)

>>626198
I meant he had h-game troupes with no sex, syntax problem.
>>626210
I've read through all the routes of Tsukihime and Fate/Stay Night. It's pulp fiction, fights are the center with lots of world building and explanations of why something happened with a bit of mystery. It is what it is, doesn't try to be anything special.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9JXuJPL1nrQ
^^^^^
basically what every visual novel is

I played some of the visual novels:
Red Shift
Narcissu
Tsukihime

>>626167
I absolutely loved Umineko, and I wish Witch-hunt would hurry up on Epsiode 6. It fixed what was wrong with Higurashi(too much circlejerking after the initial 'game', when no more introductions are needed) while stepping up the supernatural.

A great blend of anti-mystery and anti-magic, and has a few passages that make you think about how mysteries even in the west are structured.

I can't take Visual Novels seriously because they usually have hentai on them and I just end up laughing or not taking the story seriously.

I played some Pheonix Wright games. I'm pretty casual when it comes to visual novels.

http://www.mediafire.com/?sharekey=8605780d4228a713d0d290dca69ceb5cc518b8aa2e7682b3c95965eaa7bc68bc

Here's Critical Point a Visual Hentai Novel made in 1998

>>626276
You have good taste.
Man, I completely missed the point in Red Shift, and it took weeks before I realised that The main char. and the sick girl both died

Most VNs aren't that great in the same way you probably wouldn't like a random book you picked out of Walmart's book section. You have to look for the really good ones. IMO, Cross Channel, Clannad, Symphonic Rain, and Hello World are all great.

Is this an anime thread? The only anime I'm watching right now is The Tatami Galaxy. Everything else looks like shit

goes in all fields. this thread is bad and you should feel bad.

>>626293
I like it because it is crazy.

>>626339
see
>>626164

>>626345
It does get pretty fucking crazy.

Fuck yeah, Umineko.
I kind of miss discussing Nasu- and Ryukishi- related shit ever since I moved from /jp/ to /lit/.

Is there a single one of these that doesn't have retarded generic character designs

>>626360
I'm sure you only talk about dumb fantasy and science fiction books here anyway so you might as well go back there

>>626361
Life has retarded generic character designs.

>>626364
Actually life has people with a wide variety of looks, some quite beautiful, some quite ugly, some quite middling

>>626369
And these are only arbitrary distinctions that have little meaning besides to us. To an objective observer, we all look pretty damn similar.

Maybe anime characters have their own distinctions that we aren't aware of, that they use among themselves.

>>626347
Nothing else Maeda has ever written can even compare to Clannad.

>>626369
It's the fallacy of the anime art style. VNs tend to be more focused on the writing though, and the art is just there to set the mood/a small visual.

Umineko in particular has TERRIBLE TERRIBLE character art, the sprites are lazily done, but they work for what Ryukishi intended them for. The beautiful background music is what really sets the mood.

Visual novels = cartoons. Take it to /a/ or /co/.

>>626075
>They're not that different from regular novels, really,
Excuse me, I have to interject here. Japanese culture, particularly in terms of writing, is far behind the West. If I were to draw a direct comparison, I'd say Japan now is at about the same level as victorian England.

They're far behind, the quality is shit, and they have a lot of catching up to do.

Anyone who considers Japan superior or even equal to the West, is probably experiencing nostalgia for older, simpler times.

>>626377
lmfao

>>626381
shit cant compare with shit. agreed

>>626392
Racist.

>>626392
I like how you're implying that the classics of the 19th and 20th centuries are inferior to modern books like Harry Potter and Twilight.

>>626398
Culturist, actually, if that's a word - or even if it isn't. Being Japanese does not make someone genetically incapable of doing good writing. But being raised in Japanese culture does ensure it. Even the best of their work only comes to "decent/good" by Western standards.

>>626411
If you have not read them in the original Japanese well then I'm afraid we can't take you seriously

>>626406
I like how those are the best examples of modern literature you could think of.

>>626411
Yeah man, you're right. Fight Club is the best book of all time. Ron Paul /b/.

>>626406
>pick the very best of one era
>compare it to shitty books from another
No. Look at the average book from each place/time.

>>626411
They don't have the same standards and limitations the west does. Completely egoculturist view, beyond that theres quite a few great japanese novels that have extremely different viewpoints than western ones.

>>626422
The average book of any time from any place is trash

Fate/Stay Night is the most literary out of all of them.

I would read it if it was a conventional novel, and I read it now as a visual one.

Damn traditionalists.

>>626425
The average book, these days, is a lot better than the average book back then, or the average book made in Japan, much as you'd like to pretend otherwise.

>>626434
I'm not pretending one way or the other, but I doubt you've actually read enough books to say that with any merit

>>626452
>VNs aren't real literature, therefore books are superior
>Japanese can't write, therefore VNs aren't as good as western literature
>You disagree with me, therefore you don't know what you're talking about.

You realize you sound like a fuckin idiot?

>>626482
You aren't making any sense