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    25 KB Anonymous 04/24/10(Sat)20:08 No.592179  
    Hello, /lit/. Recently arrived /co/mrade here. I hope we can be friends - We do have much in common.

    Lemme just cut to the chase. I've always been a History nerd. I don't feel anymore natural than when I'm gorging myself on something big the History channel's stumbled on (which is quite seldom nowadays, considering all the Axe-men, Ice Road Truckers, Pawn Stars, and other useless shit that they're putting out as television shows on that network) or when I'm poring over some sort of historical text.

    Really, I eat anything having to do with History up - absolutely anything! Historical fiction, books pertaining customs and beliefs of ancient peoples; I'll read all of it, if I can, and I intend to read alot more of it, if you'd be kind enough to help me out here, /lit/.

    I'm looking for big books of History. Well informed, unbiased history books, mind you; I don't want any of the Thought Police bullshit that chokes out any grains of truth and leaves only what the Government wants me to here - I want to read about History, pertaining to everything and anything on humanity's 'rise', and I want it to be solid, trustworthy, and without any censorship. In other words, I just want to learn.

    That said, /lit/... Uh, yeah! Do you have anything for me? I'm eager to delve into anything I can get my hands on, as I've said - Books specifically pertaining to the history of civilizations, information on cultures or mythologies; anything. If /lit/ recommends, I'll definitely look into buying.
    >> Anonymous 04/24/10(Sat)20:11 No.592193
    You want unbiased history? Pah! Good luck(!)
    >> Anonymous 04/24/10(Sat)20:13 No.592197
    guns, germs, and steel- it's history combined with evolutionary biology
    >> Anonymous 04/24/10(Sat)20:13 No.592198
    Every history book you read is one historian's interpretation of past events. The episodes he includes, the reasons he offers, the results he implies, are all his perception of something that happened long before. If he's a good historian, he will point you to primary sources and you will have to make the determination of truth on your own.
    >> Anonymous 04/24/10(Sat)20:15 No.592207
    go straight to the father of history himself: Herodotus
    >> Anonymous 04/24/10(Sat)20:16 No.592209
    Genghis Khan, by R.P. Lister?
    >> Anonymous 04/24/10(Sat)20:18 No.592216
    >>592179

    The Decline of the West
    by Spengler
    >> Anonymous 04/24/10(Sat)20:21 No.592224
    ballantine battle books

    ww2 good stuff
    >> Anonymous 04/24/10(Sat)20:23 No.592228
    >>592179
    google primary sources.
    >> Anonymous 04/24/10(Sat)20:23 No.592229
    >>592179

    Recommendations (for everything).

    http://www.mediafire.com/?zy12mt3ngom
    >> Anonymous 04/24/10(Sat)20:24 No.592233
    The Story of Civilization, by Will Durant
    be a man
    >> Anonymous 04/24/10(Sat)20:32 No.592264
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    >>592179
    Greetings /co/mrade. /lit/erary here.

    If you don't mind some old stuff, here goes:
    Greek history: the best is of course Thucydides. Next is Herodotus; the third best is Xenophon's Anabasis for a good story, and his Hellenica in terms of actual importance. Demosthenes' speeches also shed light, albeit biased, on the period just before Alexander.
    Arrian gives us an account of Alexander the Great; Plutarch gives us a more famous account, along with numerous other Vitae of important people.
    For the rise of the Roman Republic, look no further than Polybius, one of the preeminent Greek historians after Xenophon. We also have Livy as a source; he is pretty good, once you get beyond the fanciful stories at the beginning and the long speeches.
    Sallust gives us Cataline and Jugurtha, both about the years after the end of the Punic Wars and before Pompey and Caesar. Cicero's speeches are also useful for the late republic. Caesar's Civil War, though obviously biased, will reward careful reading, as will his account of the conquest of Gaul.
    Now we have the greatest of Roman historians, Tacitus with his bleak appraisal of the early empire. We also see the more gossipy side of the imperial court in Suetonius' Twelve Caesars.
    The last Roman historian of any note that I can remember off the top of my head is Ammianus Marcellinus; he covers the late empire. Then everything becomes a bit sketchy.
    The medieval period is full of chroniclers; I am not sure what is current these days in reading from this period, and I sadly have no recommendations.
    [continued]
    >> Anonymous 04/24/10(Sat)20:33 No.592267
    >>592264
    [continued]
    Well anyway. May I also recommend Gibbon's Decline and Fall of the Roman Empire. It is extremely long; the edition I have is six volumes. You could probably get away with reading an abridged edition; I've seen an abridged edition of three large "Penguin" volumes, if I remember correctly. It is a classic of history writing from before the age of political correctness. And it is written in what I consider to be excellent English prose; this is from before the days when history was written in drab academic style.
    I would also recommend, to stay on older works of history, Tocqueville's The French Revolution and the Old Regime, a classic analysis of the FR.
    Now, Hegel was not a historian, but he did have "Philosophy of History"; it is a bit of a slog, but rewards reading.
    >> Anonymous 04/24/10(Sat)20:37 No.592273
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    >>592267

    You've won the thread.
    >> Anonymous 04/24/10(Sat)21:26 No.592423
    I'll just add this webpage. http://www.fordham.edu/halsall/sbook1.html

    And just remmember that nothing is better than reading source documents and keeping your head open.



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