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    84 KB Anonymous 03/23/10(Tue)13:01 No.465843  
    ITT Film adaptations of books that are at least worthy in their own standing if not faithful adaptations of their progenitors.

    Hard mode: You actually explain why.
    >> Anonymous 03/23/10(Tue)13:02 No.465853
    er Bladerunner
    >> Anonymous 03/23/10(Tue)13:03 No.465857
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    >> Anonymous 03/23/10(Tue)13:06 No.465861
    Lonesome Dove: because Robert Duval is a badass.

    The Shining

    Can't think of anymore right now.
    >> Anonymous 03/23/10(Tue)13:11 No.465880
    Clockwork Orange. C'mon.
    >> Anonymous 03/23/10(Tue)13:12 No.465882
    2001: A Spac Odyssey
    >> Anonymous 03/23/10(Tue)13:13 No.465885
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    >> Anonymous 03/23/10(Tue)13:14 No.465886
    ITT: no one explains why
    >> Anonymous 03/23/10(Tue)13:15 No.465887
    No Country for Old Men, and The Road qualify as films worthy in their own standing, I'd say.

    Jaws is a better film than it is a book. I'm tempted to say the same thing about 2001/The Sentinel too.
    >> Anonymous 03/23/10(Tue)13:15 No.465889
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    Most of the other Bonds too.
    >> Anonymous 03/23/10(Tue)13:18 No.465899
    >>465887
    The Sentinel wasn't based on a book
    >> Anonymous 03/23/10(Tue)13:20 No.465904
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    Yes, it was over the top. Legolas surfs down an olophant's trunk. But to be fair, that's what Hollywood does.
    Yes, Return of the King was too long.
    Yes, the alterations to some of the characters were unforgivable. In particular, they fucked up Faramir, big time. To be fair, it seems almost unreasonable in the books that the Ring is this object that corrupts absolutely, and yet Frodo and company keep coming across people who aren't corrupted by it.

    But the movies were good for one reason: The casting. Viggo Mortensen IS Aragorn in my mind now. I can't read the books without putting him in there. Same thing goes for almost every other character.

    This is the best movie LOTR we're ever going to get, and it is way better than the shitty attempts that were made before.
    >> Anonymous 03/23/10(Tue)13:21 No.465907
    >>465887
    for no country for old men, ethan coen won an oscar for best adapted screenplay and he was embarassed, said he didnt need to do anything, also theres some quote about the coens just shining a light through the pages of the book

    basically mccarthys prose is pretty cinematic - its all location and action and he rarely if ever gives you the inner workings of a characters mind, i guess that works well for films too
    >> Anonymous 03/23/10(Tue)13:23 No.465911
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    >>465904
    >way better than the shitty attempts that were made before.

    LOL U MAD?
    >> Anonymous 03/23/10(Tue)13:23 No.465912
    >>465904

    nigga u srs?
    >> Anonymous 03/23/10(Tue)13:24 No.465914
    >>465899
    No, but 2001 is based on a short story called The Sentinel, which is what I was talking about.
    >> Anonymous 03/23/10(Tue)13:27 No.465918
    >>465911

    god, that shit was atrocious.

    i gotta say though, the guy who did the voice of gandalf in the rankin-bass "the hobbit" and "the return of the king" was awesome. that is still how i imagine gandalf sounding.
    >> Anonymous 03/23/10(Tue)13:30 No.465925
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    The Passion of The Christ.

    The book was long, preachy, over-the-top, boring, quite silly and nonsensical at points. The film, however, was pretty good, to the point, compelling, and enjoyable.

    Also blood.
    >> Anonymous 03/23/10(Tue)13:31 No.465926
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    >>465904

    You just have to be kidding. The first was the only one that was passable.

    Also, on topic: pic related
    >> Anonymous 03/23/10(Tue)13:31 No.465928
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    Scorsese's film of Wharton's /The Age of Innocence/ - faithful to plot, and also to atmosphere: e. g., the dinner scene in which we see the table settings and courses, recreating visually Wharton's attention to social detail.

    >>465904

    Jackson's LotR is a brilliant filming of Tolkien's world as depicted by artists like Alan Lee. Sadly, in terms of cuts, character changes, and plain inane insertions (one more fucking drwarf-tossing joke and I'll scream), it ultimately fails to represent the books well.
    >> Anonymous 03/23/10(Tue)13:32 No.465930
    >>465928
    >drwarf

    See how mad it made me? SEE?
    >> Anonymous 03/23/10(Tue)13:33 No.465932
    >>465914
    >2001 is based on a short story called The Sentinel, which is what I was talking about.
    but you referred to it as a movie
    >> Anonymous 03/23/10(Tue)13:35 No.465934
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    You can say what you want about Gilliams visual direction, but the actors work and the dialogue was pristinely delivered from the original text.
    >> Anonymous 03/23/10(Tue)13:36 No.465937
    >>465932
    >I'm tempted to say the same thing about 2001/The Sentinel too.
    No he didn't, he just made it clearer which film, and which book, he was referring to. You're just being an unjust, nitpicking bastard for no reason. Maybe we should get a whistle, and whenever you see people not be 100% clear in what they mean, and expect the people they are explaining it to to have some basic understanding, you can blow your little whistle and give them a telling off.
    >> Anonymous 03/23/10(Tue)13:37 No.465944
    >>465926
    >take satire about 80's culture and the endgame of the American dream
    >make it about Feminism instead

    Yeah great job.
    >> Anonymous 03/23/10(Tue)13:38 No.465946
    >>465928

    i agree with you on all points, but the rules state:

    >at least worthy in their own standing if not faithful adaptations

    to be honest, i can't think of a single tv or cinematic treatment of fantasy that i'd consider better than the Jackson LOTRs. they are not perfect by any stretch of the imagination, but damn me if it's not the most serious attempt at making a true epic fantasy movie work. there might be one, but i can't think of it at the moment. the genre has been neglected and abused to an insane degree.
    >> Anonymous 03/23/10(Tue)13:38 No.465948
    >>465944
    Maybe I saw a different movie, how the shitting Hell was American Psycho about feminism?
    >> Anonymous 03/23/10(Tue)13:43 No.465962
    >>465937
    sorry for the confusion, language is my primary concern, and when it becomes muddled with intent it erodes the communicative value

    as for The Sentinel, I thought he was referring to the 1977 horror flick, which is still one of my favorites
    >> Anonymous 03/23/10(Tue)13:44 No.465967
    >>465944

    >see a female director and two female writers
    >assume it's about feminism
    >> Anonymous 03/23/10(Tue)13:44 No.465969
    I read Memoirs of a Geisha when I was in high school, I avoided watching the movie because of the fact that if they chose very obviously Chinese actors for the roles, then the rest of it probably sucked too.
    But when I watched it I was pleasantly surprised - the characters were as well developed as they were in the novel, and all the plot twists were still as viable.
    >> Anonymous 03/23/10(Tue)13:56 No.466011
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    In any case, 2001 is a non-issue.

    The novel 2001 is by Arthur C. Clarke BASED ON a screenplay by Arthur C. Clarke and Stanley Kubrick. (Take a look at the 1st edition's cover.) The screenplay came first.

    The concept for the screenplay was from The Sentinel short story by Clarke.
    >> Anonymous 03/23/10(Tue)13:59 No.466023
    The Green Mile DEFINATELY!
    >> Anonymous 03/23/10(Tue)14:11 No.466063
    >>465946

    I was actually agreeing with you, anon: I think it's only if one knows and really likes LotR itself that Jackson's films begin to lack the depth (and other things) one appreciates in the text.
    >> Anonymous 03/23/10(Tue)14:53 No.466196
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    >>466011

    Pushing it even further - a film that is magnitudes better than its literary source.

    Barry Lyndon. 2001's twin.

    Kubrick fills the screen with light and color, basing every shot on a painting. Every image in that film is perfect. It is a masterpiece.

    Thackeray is just drab and inconsequential. Kubrick uses the story as a skinny little framework for the film.

    Unfortunately, most people will never get to see 2001 and Barry Lyndon as they should be seen - on a big screen, in analog, with the soundtrack filling the hall. Video and the process of watching at home diminish those films.
    >> Anonymous 03/23/10(Tue)14:58 No.466221
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    Watchmen
    >> Anonymous 03/23/10(Tue)15:01 No.466237
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    Catch 22 was a responsible adaptation to the book I thought
    >> Anonymous 03/23/10(Tue)15:03 No.466245
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    i've never read this, but i don't see how the book could be any better than the movie
    >> Anonymous 03/23/10(Tue)15:03 No.466249
    >>466196


    Kind of how watching Avatar at home, those that missed it in theater just wont get the full magnitude.
    >> Anonymous 03/23/10(Tue)15:04 No.466251
    >>466196

    I agree. Thankfully home theatre systems are getting cheaper, so it is at least getting better than in the old days of having to do with 24" tube tvs and one crappy speaker.
    >> Rodney_Dangerfield !jHDnJkFXPM 03/23/10(Tue)15:13 No.466291
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    >>466221

    Shut the fuck up.
    >> Anonymous 03/23/10(Tue)15:34 No.466346
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    >>466249

    2001 is to Avatar as Moby Dick is to Fishing With John Lurie.

    Also Avatar = furries.
    >> Anonymous 03/23/10(Tue)15:36 No.466348
    >>466245
    You mean it because it sucked or the other way around?
    >> Anonymous 03/23/10(Tue)15:37 No.466352
    >>465934
    Hunter loved it.
    Of course he had parts he hated as well. (throwing coins on ground for midget)
    >> Klytus 03/23/10(Tue)15:41 No.466363
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    I liked the 80's Dune film. It may not have been the best adaptation, but it was a solid film on its own and its a good jumping point into the books.
    >> Anonymous 03/23/10(Tue)15:46 No.466388
    >>466363
    I thought the 80's version was a pretty good adaptation.

    Compared to that horrible abortion sci-fi miniseries that they did :-/
    >> Anonymous 03/23/10(Tue)15:46 No.466390
    TV Adaption but stands gloriously amongst all contenders...

    Tinker, Tailor, Soldier, Spy. John Le Carre and the BBC.

    Alex Guiness IS George Smiley to the point that it is almost like Guiness is in a fly on the wall documentary about the Cold War. It is one of the finest performances of any role I have ever seen in my near 40 years.

    Le Carre's books are well worth a read before you watch it, they are excellent understated almost quiet in some ways, Cold War thrillers.
    >> Anonymous 03/23/10(Tue)15:55 No.466409
    >>466390
    le Carre actually adopted Guinness' version of Smiley after watching the series. He began writing future books (Smiley's People) with Guinness' version in mind.



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