Asspies are inferior faggots.

I don't believe in that "disorder".

Assburgers is a made up condition that serves as an excuse to be socially retarded.

>>317252
This.

I actually recognize one of the guys in OP's pic from my forays to r9k. That's sad.

Go listen to "Welcome to the jungle"

>>317244

Every introvert thinks they're an aspie.

No.
No.
Yes.
I'd hardly call them exploits.

>>317266

By the ridiculous standards of diagnosis, every introvert IS an aspie. Asperger's is an absolutely unnecessary label thrown on people who are just socially weird. It doesn't belong on the autism spectrum, and it certainly doesn't belong anywhere near the term "diagnosis".

>>317244
Gb2 your hugbox

I have a rare form of the ass burgers called NLD. We're characterised by a high verbal IQ and massive fucking deficits in everything else.

I read a fuckload. I usually have three or four books on the go at once and they're usually fiction. I work in the sciences and read technical manuals and test procedures all day, so I don't have any pressing need to read nonfiction in my spare time. In addition to books I read magazines, newspapers, and various bits and pieces. I read the backs of jam jars while I'm waiting for my bread to toast.

I read mystery/detective novels, yes fantasy, horror, and a wide range of socially accepted literature. I tend to shy away from romances (usually badly written bleh about shit I don't care about) and social commentary (ditto). When I read nonfiction it's usually over a fairly diverse range of subjects; anything from the physical sciences to psychology to environmental science to biographies. Mainly the sciences, I'll admit.

Yes. I have the ass burgers, complete with physical abnormalities in my brain structure, particularly in but not limited to the right hemisphere, that were not caused by bad nurturing on behalf of my parents and are not merely misdiagnosis on behalf of the nueropsycologist and neurologist.

Yes. I do read. I read a fuckload.

No. My reading is by no means limited to a narrow range of fantasy novels.

And before you ask, I successfully hold down a rather well-paying job and generally get on quite well with my co-workers. Except for my current boss. Fucker's inept and I'm convinced he lied about his qualifications.

>>317280

You don't have to be an aspie to hate romance novels bro. Most of the books I read are social commentary of sorts (pretty much all science fiction is) and I've found aspies don't really dig this type of stuff. It's as if their own ideas are so strongly developed in thier own mind that anything that isn't pure plot based fiction, or based on solid hard science conflicts with their way of thinking. Maybe it has something to do with thier inability to understand that NTs believe they all share something called society, and share common traits and emotions. Most aspies are radical individualists who resent the notion that people who have never met can share experiences. They don't grok it so they shun it.

LOL at the people claiming it's a made up disorder though. I'm socially awkward but I don't have aspergers. However I know people who do, and they really are different. Instead of feeling awkward they're just oblivious.

Yes
Yes
Yes
I'll read anything. If I've not brought a book with me to somewhere, I'll just as happily read a textbook on engineering as I do poetry.
And fantasy as a genre doesn't do much for me.

>>317296

Is it really like being high on adderall 24/7?

>>317266
>Every introvert thinks they're an aspie.

Not true. I know two aspies and neither of them are as socially retarded as I am.

>>317303
I don't know what Adderall does or what it feels like, so couldn't say.

Not an aspie.
Bit introverted.
Like reading.

>>317305
This.

>Aspie
>Tons of misdiagnoses so they're combining it's definition with another.
>Aspie PRIDE groups gets all butthurt because they're not really aspie and know it.

Aspergers is a real disorder that far too many people are misdiagnosed with.

>Aspergers is made up
lol if you met my dad you wouldn't say that

>>317317

The Autism Spectrum covers a rather large range of disorders, which may or may not be related but all have in common a degree of social awkwardness. The severity of this ranges from simple trouble following facial expressions to full blown incapability of any form of social interaction.

Awareness of ASDs in my own country is very, very low. I've never heard of an aspie pride group. Sounds like not a bad idea on the face of it, but personally don't know if want. All the groups that I've come across are poorly organised conglomerates of parents with ASD children.

Apparently ASDs in America, where I'm assuming you're from, are massively over-diagnosed. I wouldn't know about that but I did have an American friend, who'd told me she'd 'tendencies' in that direction, insist on visiting me in my country despite strong misgivings on my part. She then proceeded to point out all the commonly known deficits associated with my particular ASD and tell me how horrified she was by them and that I'd really better stop it and learn how to be more like other people.

After careful deliberation, I let the bitch live. She was too fat to easily dispose of her corpse.

>>317305

By retarded do you mean overly self conscious or oblivious. I know an aspie, he's confident as fuck, but doest the stupidest most cringe-worthy thinkgs. It's strange that we're friends. He does stupid suff and I get hit with the embarassment. I don't even bother talking to females when he's around. I just know he'll try and start a long discussion about architectural history or something, remaing oblivious to attempsts to steer the discussion in a new direction, and the awkward glances going on around him like machine gun fire in the trenches at Fromelles.

People with aspergers aren't characterised with introversion but eccentricity. Fucking morons.

>>317328

>The severity of this ranges from simple trouble following facial expressions to full blown incapability of any form of social interaction.

Why are you ignoring the non-social symptoms of the actual autism disorders? People who have actual autism have poor language development and poor cognitive development ON TOP OF being socially awkward. Asperger's is a made up label so socially awkward people can feel special and 'normal' people can separate themselves from weridos.

According to the doctors, I've got aspergers. I read obsessively. Poetry is my favorite kind of literature because I like when people play with the order words are supposed to go in.

>>317332

Being self-conscious is part of it.

>I know an aspie, he's confident as fuck, but doest the stupidest most cringe-worthy thinkgs. He does stupid suff and I get hit with the embarassment.

Yeah, the aspies I know are like that. People mostly accommodate them or even find it charming.

>>317343


Because the non social symptoms of ASDs are many and varied according to each individual disorder, and, as I said, debate rages whether they're even medically connected or whether they're entirely separate neurological disorders that just happen to have social awkwardness in common. A person with an ASD doesn't necessarily have autism. Or Aspergers'.

I DO NOT have "Asperger's Syndrome", I AM however a High-Functioning Autistic May-el with a VAST array of literary interests, from electric hedgehogs to zappin to the extreme

>>317353
Oh, God, I know exactly who you're talking about and that both frightens and amuses me.

>>317353
One would imagine that the mere existence of persons like Chris-Chan and Emiry would suffice to prevent anyone from openly admitting to a diagnosis of an ASD anywhere online...

>>317353
Let's not forget R.L Stine.

>>317368
Yet they do, because they have no social skills and fail to realize what people will think of them. Which sort of proves that they have the disorder.

>>317323
Wisdom.

This:
>I know an aspie, he's confident as fuck, but does the stupidest most cringe-worthy things. He does stupid stuff and I get hit with the embarrassment.

He reads mostly science fiction novels and books based on video games and popular movies.

I try not to interact with him, but he's a pretty cool guy most of the time. He's been properly diagnosed by a doctor as having an ASD.

>>317373
>Which sort of proves that they have the disorder.
That or they've only recently received a diagnosis. If true, that would indicate that they aren't yet sufficiently socialised to understand that they don't need to forewarn everyone about their condition.

Chris-Chan, alas, will likely never learn.

>>317349

>or even find it charming

I wish I could get away with the shit he does. I don't mind about the whole situation though, we get along great and have been friends since we were 13 or 14. It's good that he's always up for a debate, and never seems to be a moody little bitch like most NTs. I will never do acid with him again though.

On a side note (this is the OP) I went for a midnight ride on my bike just then and got picked up by undercover cops, questioned and patted down. Apperently there were breakins in the industrial area where I was riding. They asked me why I was so sweaty for riding such a short distance on such a cool night. I replyed "because I'm unfit". They then told me they'd be knocking at my door if they saw a guy with dark jeans and a beige shirt on cctv breaking into shit.

They then let me go without a ticked for the lack of lights and helmit because I'm a charming motherfucker. Lucky I had no pen to write shit or weed or anything on me. Damn coppers.

>>317434

What happened when you did acid? I have weird reactions to legal drugs so I've always been too afraid to try the illegal ones.

Yes, I have Asperger's - was diagnosed just over 3 years ago now - but I'd like to think myself as someone who takes to reading books in a broad range of genres. I will admit I do like fantasy novels, but I also have a keen interest in sci-fi, suspense/thrillers, dystopian and/or psychological-based novels as well.

The book I've recently finished and is currently getting printed for release is a kind of mix of my most-read genres, I like to experiment when I write because I take inspiration from so many books I've read. My book collection has increased exponentially over the past couple of years.

>>317448

Well he enjoyed the fuck out of it. As in he totally loved it and had no negative effects at all. When we first did it we both seemed to become almost intellectually supercharged. New and awesome outlooks on every topic came naturally.

This lasted for him beyond the first trip, but from then on everytime I dropped I experienced a severe existential crisis in many instances leading to me breaking down crying and deep depression (it always starts a little differently, but always ends the same).

Now this was due to personal issues that I would prefer not to discuss with him, but he takes it on his shoulders to be my therapist or something, thinking he should work me through this, thinking that he has the solution, thinking that people should be able to function perfectly fine on acid like he does.

Now I'll try to change the subject or do something else, but he'll keep bringing it back to my flip out problem (lol the point of life is interpersonal interaction). He won't outright say it though, he'll try to be subtle and sneak it into unrelated topics in a really condescending way as if he's above me (protip: you're not, I'm just shutting up and talking about mundane shit because I don't want hug and cry for 7 hours). For example we were playing some wow, and he says "it would be alot more visually pleasing without the green text" or "I'm having trouble concentrating on the green text, are you?" (green text is guild chat and people's names). Or when we were looking at an ants nest, "it's the ants that make the nest, don't you agree?"

Fuck it was annoying. Take a fucking hint son. This guy is intense enough as it is, when we're both on lsd it's just too much. If I was with a bro we could just look at trees and chill out observing fractals.

>>317475

Is this the book?

>>317481
Hahaha

My friend's an aspie and he won't touch a book. He learned to read from playing the vidya.

>>317481

No, unfortunately not - haven't read that book so I don't know whether you're being sarcastic or not. Wish the illustrator at my publishers had used that direction in the jacket cover though. Maybe I'll suggest it for Book 2.

The Curious Incident of the Dog in the Nighttime - Mark Haddon

This book is great. It's written from the perspective of an autistic boy. (Not aspergers I know, but this seems like an only slightly imperfect opportunity to introduce someone to this book).

>>317484
He is a musician though, albeit one untrained in music theory. He's got all these neural connections that let him play fast, intricate stuff, and he can play Stepmania with one hand while holding a conversation with someone in the room.

>>317484

I have two friends (non-asspie) who learned to read from vidya... one is an English major now

>>317507

Pic related is another book I'd suggest. Nearly finished this and I've thoroughly enjoyed reading it. It's not the sort of 'Once Upon A Time...modern setting, ordinary background...and they all lived happily ever after' story you'd expect when tackling characters with this condition as it's a dystopian/sci-fi classed novel, so even from that point I was intrigued because it's totally the opposite of what I'd read previous.

>>317507
>>317526
Add The Speed of Dark by Elizabeth Moon to the list.

>>317507
I've been reading this for one of my uni courses, and I have to say I was pleasantly surprised by how readable and interesting it is after years of disppointment with the "top 10" fiction charts. Definitely worth a buy.

>>317499

You don't want anything to do with that book, trust me.

>>317507
>>317526
>>317532

Anymore AS related books out there? I'm interested now. Actually I always thought the man from mars in Stranger in a Strange Land desplayed alot of autistic traits.

>> Anyone here got aspergers?

The American Psychiatric Association has issued a new edition of it's "Diagnostic and Statistical Manual of Mental Disorders" and "Asperger's" is no longer a recognized "disorder".

Why?

It's been wildly over diagnosed. Far too many assholes whose shitty parents failed to instill even a crumb of self-discipline in them decide they're "aspies" in order to avoid growing up and far too many schools decide ordinary stupid kids are "aspies" in order to remove them from standardized testing and inflate test scores.

I'll be glad when you Gen X assclowns no longer have a psychiatric "excuse" for being immature, anti-social douchebags.

I was diagnosed as a kid when the label was young and hadn't filled up with garden-variety losers yet. I'm a Literature major and I write fiction myself. I don't get much of a kick out of fantasy or SF for the most part, but when I read good literary fiction, I love being able to analyse and comprehend the layers of hidden meaning, which I always seem to miss in social settings. Time slows when I read - reading gives me time to think more about people and the odd things we all do and think.

>>317637

>The American Psychiatric Association has issued a new edition of it's "Diagnostic and Statistical Manual of Mental Disorders" and "Asperger's" is no longer a recognized "disorder".

>>317637

Wow some people actually seem to think that overdiagnosing a syndrome makes it nonexistent. That or they're trolls, but there's the same arguments (which are not based on any research, unlike all the actual research done to establish this as a disorder) on threads like this every time (actually, it seems to be hip to say they're nonexistent for all autism spectrum disorders..)

The problem with overdiagnosing AS is that the diagnosis is based too much on the social life part, while ignoring too much about the other factors which I, as someone with AS, think are the true nature of AS more than the variably impaired theory of mind that may make socializing harder. Stuff like special interests, pattern recognizion, strong ideals, that's more of the true nature of AS that sets it apart from being just another social retardation of some kind (in this society where unimaginative socialization like small talk and shit is held in irrationally high regard just for itself, it's no wonder these disorders (pop up and stuff like AS is perceived as being just another one of them, while it's not a temporary disorder, it's a permanent neurological difference which is all in good subjective order) in my opinion. Or maybe I just don't want to be all depressed about not being just another NT, when I'm "given" a rare, rather different POW of the world around me, which is no better or worse than the usual NT POW, IMO. There is no real universal meter to measure which is better, in terms of the subjective experience of daily life if you make the most of it.

>>317682

Ok, to get that rant over with, I read mostly stuff like (in no particular order) dystopian novels, hard science fiction (especially recently stuff from Greg Egan, he's an awesome author), S. King (especially like his Dark Tower series), Hunter S. Thompson's "gonzo journalism" and all kinds of other stuff.. but yeah, I spend a lot more time reading fact than fiction texts, mostly on (astro)physics (like physical cosmology, quantum mechanics and anything in between those physical size scales, herp derp), fundamental mathematical theories, also about serial killers and other not directly scientific stuff I like, which can be pretty random at times... I guess it follows some patterns though that I can't really identify at this time having been awake since friday due to MDPV... which of course takes us to the fact that I like to read abut drugs too, especially research chemicals, all from trip reports to the wiki articles and stuff...

There's some of my reading exploits, hope this long strangely written post helped.

Actually the disorder is still recognized but it has been shoved together with several other ones under a common label, can't recall it at the moment. (in hopes of less misdiagnoses)

>>317685
It's now classified under the autistic spectrum.

My secret suspicion is that no one knew how to say Aspergers or felt ridicculous doing it and so they reclassified it.

>>317685
I think you're after 'High-Functioning Autism'..

Aspiefag here.
I was diagnosed as a kid probably, for being a little sociopathic and hyper, and being born in a foreign country and not knowing how to adapt to life back in America probably didn't help.
I've been sexually and physically abused by teachers for it and put in a few abusive institutions, which was kind of shitty, but that's not something I try to think about.
On the other hand, I also got put in the Gifted program, which got me into Theatre and got me reading a lot more serious literature, which was nice.
But yeah, I read a lot. Mostly into fantasy, sci-fi, magical realism, and horror. Lovecraft, Mieville, Pullman, Martin, Borges, and Barker are all pretty fucking beast. I also a shitload of British Romantic era poetry. Byron is amazing and Baudelaire and Blake are a couple poets whose work I can relate to on a personal level.
I also write a few poems and some short stories of my own, usually horror or magical realism, and also some dark erotica when I feel like writing to shock.
Right now I'm working on an adventure/romance novel.

Now as for the whole thing "hurr durr u hav teh ass burgers" I'd like to think I'm a pretty normal person, but sometimes shit happens that makes me realize I'm not. I try not to explain it away, though, because one thing I've learned is you don't share your diagnosis with people irl: if they know about your Asperger's they'll treat you like you have a snake growing out of your scalp.
I try to throw people off when they mention Asperger's by trying to act like some cunt who doesn't know what it is.

Really though my brother has it... Try telling anyone who knows him that it's made up. I can imagine a lot of people use it as an excuse for poor social skills though. Sometimes I wish I could, but there really is far more to it than that. As for books.. He only seems to like informational ones about different forms of transport, and claims to hate fiction

>>317697
Fuck, my grammar was shot to Hell in that post.

>I also read a shitload of Romantic era British poetry

Otherwise it sounds like I accidentally British poetry

>>317244

This isn't true of me but I was diagnosed as a "mild case".
It's sounds right though, Other aspies I've met would probably be unable to appreciate most adult fiction because it deals with subjects/themes they do not understand. Complex ranges of emotion and social interaction is mostly lost on them.

I generally try not to associate with other aspies because I hate being around them.

>>317682 Wow some people actually seem to think that overdiagnosing a syndrome makes it nonexistent.

Yeah, people like the American Psychiatric Association.

The label "Asperger's" has been dropped and most of the behavioral symptoms that "Asperger's" used to describe have been folded back into the autism spectrum where they've always belonged.

Too many well meaning douchebags armed with the Asperger's label have spent decades convincing idiot parents and idiot patients that the entirely normal anxieties associated with growing up were a mythical psychiatric disorder and not the lessons in maturation everyone else successfully handled.

Putting it another way, those awkward moments and feelings of being awkward were no longer something everyone goes through and everyone grows out of but were now a "Boo Hoo I'm Special And Require Special Treatment" whine.

You claim to have Asperger's and I doubt that diagnosis very much. Have yourself examined again, fuckslop, and this time, if you're lucky, the doctor will slap the back of your head and tell you to grow the fuck up instead of slapping a "special" label in you and prescribing medication.

>>317721

>>317721
Yes I'm aware of dropping the specific name of AS and jut diagnosing them HFA. while HFA is a more broad spectrum, I'm fine with that, it should make some things easier for people who actually need a diagnosis, because it's causing them trouble..

I thought I had it for a second or two in high school. I looked up some courage wolf, put myself out there, and got laid because it was ultimately my choice to be sick or not and the comfort of hiding behind the shield of "You can't make fun of me! I have a disorder!" is not nearly as satisfying as having friends and getting tail.

Feels good, man.

To answer your question I read a lot of "modern literature," so a lot of Murakami and other postmodern authors. And sci-fi, too.

>>317738
there is a diff tho

Asperger's = Gary Numan

HFA = Chris-Chan

>>317721
Oh and I don't have an official diagnosis, I never thought I'd need it for anything.

>>317750
A self diagnosed aspie on 4chan? what are the odds?! He interrobanged.

>>317750 Oh and I don't have an official diagnosis...

So, you're a SELF DIAGNOSED aspie?

Your Honor, the prosecution rests.

>>317765
>implying one case of self diagnosis proves that the disorder doesn't exist

Once I got really high and almost convinced myself I had aspergers.

Pretty sure I don't though.

>>317791
I believe the disorder exists. However I also believe that self-diagnosis is just picking a disorder you like the look of and telling people you have it to excuse your actions.

Most nerds have some characteristics that could be classed as aspie but generally not to a severe enough degree for tham to actually be diagnosed as autistic.

>>317808
>implying self-diagnosis can never be correct, even though the person who best knows what someone is like is themself

>>317791
read
>>317808

Austism exists and it's symptoms present themselves along a spectrum.

Asperger's no longer exists and far too many of those "diagnosed" with Asperger's no longer have have an excuse for their actions.

Grow the fuck up.

>>317815

>implying you can know yourself in an objective manner when you've never known anything else

>>317826
>implying that changing a thing's name means that it no longer exists

>>317833
>implying the existance of objective truths about mental states

I convinced a long time friend that i had autism. I'm not sure if that says more about his gullibility or my social ineptitude.

>>317815
Autism diagnoses are based on the observations of the child's parents as well. With a developmental disorder you usually need a third party to get an objective opinion

Yes, I was diagnosed with Asperger's syndrome when I was in the 9th grade.

>I head aspies don't read fiction aside from a narrow range of fantasy novels.

Plenty of aspies do read fiction novels.

Yes, I do a lot a reading, but mostly non-fictional books involving social or political issues. I do read a lot a manga though when I get the chance.

>>317272
While every aspie is an natural introvert, not every introvert is as aspie.

>>317848
>implying opinions can be objective

>>317815 >implying self-diagnosis can never be correct, even though the person who best knows what someone is like is themself

The person who best knows what someone is like is their self? Sorry, fuckslop, but you're very much wrong. Only someone outside of the situation can correctly diagnose a condition and that's especially so with psychiatric issues.

Incorrect self diagnosis is so routine that all medical professions constantly warn their own practitioners against it. The medical and psychiatric students so often "diagnose" in themselves conditions they're studying that it's running joke in med schools. Self diagnosis is why pharmaceutical companies fought for the right to advertise prescription medications because they could boost sales by circumventing the trained professionals and inveigle the untrained consumer into demanding treatments they don't actually need.

One of the severely learning disabled people I support at work thinks he's fine. Does that mean he is?

>>317853

Yes and nobody can know anything because the human mind through which all sense data passes is inaccurate. You're probably hallucinating reality right now dude.

>>317863
>implying behaviourism

>>317883
>implying empiricism

>>317885

implying rationalism is infalliable

>>317907

>implying without greentext

>>317907
>implying Cartesian skepticism can be disproved

I know a kid with Aspergers. Evereytime I talk to him he fucking talks my ear off and attends classes to "act like he doesn't have Aspergers".

So aspies are full of shit.

>>317932
>implying there are people who aren't full of shit

>>317682
One-hundred fucking percent this.

Except prisoner of war? I hope you mean point of view.

>>317918

>implying I was implying that at all

>>318002
>implying I care about what you were or were not implying

>>318007

>implying if you didn't care what I was or wasn't implying you would imply I was implying anything at all

>>318014
>implying I'm not trolling you with greentext

>>318019

>implying you were

>>318026
>implying I wasn't

>>318028

>implying you weren't

Well, this thread is over. No more actual posts with actual text, just Greentext Dueling Douchebags engaged in their interminable Did Not/Did Too silliness.

Have your fun kiddies, the adults will be over at the big table.

(inb4 implying there are adults on 4chan)

>>318077
>implying you're contributing anything productive to the discussion

I'm going to get

>implying

tattooed on my leg

>>317251
>>317252

I'd recommend backing up statements with evidence before you start sounding like Scientologists...

ITT: aspies who mostly read fantasy and assberger denialists

I have an extensive collection of math textbooks and books on quantum physics.

The only non-science book I own and enjoy is Crime And Punishment by Dostoyevsky.

Fantasy novels are for boring faggots.