2 weeks down and I've written 1 page. I can't even write a seller

According to an anecdote, James Joyce considered it a productive day when he got 12 words written.

But he was also a drunk who spent his family into poverty.

The only people who can bash shit like GRRM and JK Rowling are people like McCarthy or Roth. People who can actually write and are published.

Harold Bloom shouldn't criticize anyone, he can't write a novel to save his life

>>2827197

“A friend came to visit James Joyce one day and found the great man sprawled across his writing desk in a posture of utter despair.

James, what’s wrong?' the friend asked. 'Is it the work?'

Joyce indicated assent without even raising his head to look at his friend. Of course it was the work; isn’t it always?

How many words did you get today?' the friend pursued.

Joyce (still in despair, still sprawled facedown on his desk): 'Seven.'

Seven? But James… that’s good, at least for you.'

Yes,' Joyce said, finally looking up. 'I suppose it is… but I don’t know what order they go in!”

I find just getting words onto the paper without thinking too much about detail allows me to write a lot more than if I were to include detailed descriptions on the first time through.

You can always go back and add in more descriptions or whatever afterwards.

It takes them a long time.

>>2827259

>It takes them a long time
>Stephen King writes 46 books a year

>>2827268

This version of this story
>>2827207
was actually written by King.

>>2827207
I've always wondered if he had dylexia.

I wrote 30,000 words in 4 days a few weeks ago. It's doable, try planning out what you want to write. A scene list is the only way I can keep on moving forward with a story.

"Meet me at the pie shop, tonight" said the leggy braud, her eyes wide like two gleaming pie dishes.

The moon was out, its cracked surface shining like a pale, unbaked pie with a glazed crust. As I approached the braud, I noticed her hair had browned like a baked pie in this light. Could I see a glint of a pizza pie in those gleaming dishes? Her pork pies wobbled as she walked towards me.

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I think you falsely asume that the process of writing a novel is a solitary thing. A lot of people are involved in the process - mainly the editor (Most writers are merely as good as their editors allow them to be). But even if its not proffessional writing its very rare that you find a guy siting alone in his basement writing a book from front to bed. You write a chapter or a dialog, discuss it with someome who's opinion matters to you, and then you rewrite. Why do you think most books have so many thanks and aknowledgements in the back?
And you can bet your ass that King has an army of Ghostwriters.

>write a best seller

brb, writing a novel about an ambiguously average girl who ends up in a love triangle with two impossibly good looking guys with dark and mysterious secrets

>>2827204

Have you read any of Bloom's writing? It's actually pretty colourful as functional writing. Tonnes of allusions going on. He also has a vast output.

writing is a solitary pursuit. that's what all the great writers have said and even the modern one's continue to say.

I dunno what hipster trash you read, but professional writers are usually alone, writing by themselves. They submit their shit to an editor when its done or near completion.

If you stop counting it, you'll write more.

That is, if you have any sense in your head. If you don't and you are like King or Rowling, then fuck everything, you write things carelessly and get away with it.

But if you are dedicated, it works. Also, as you said, 1 page per day. Now imagine a work of 3 or 4 years and you already have 1000 pages, not such a long time for writing a book.

>>2827323
Amazon currently carries over 1 Million Titles. How many of those you would say are "great books" by "great writers".
Of course a lot of great literature was written in solitude by some mad geniuses. But compared to the mass this is an absolute rarity. And btw the OP asked how you write 1000page novels, not how to write a "great novel".

>>2827324
That's right OP. Spend the next 6 years of your life writing a novel so that when you finish it you can seen it to an editor so he can clean his ass with it and throw it back to your face.

>>2827377

no way!!!!

I try to write about 2000 words a day, or something around 3 pages. I can't comfortably do more, and doing any less would be a bit too slowgoing for me. I find it's a good balance

I believe the "solitary writer" is a myth created by selfpublishing houses to rip off people with delusions of grandeur.

>>2827409
And the counterpoint is a myth created to give writing workshops a semblance of credibility

>>2827324

I read this and then actually went and wrote a page (single spaced, so I could call it hard-mode). Thanks, bro. I did math on my wordcount, and if I keep it up, and can find a story somewhere in here, I'll have a first draft of a novel (I'm not writing doorstop fantasy) in 80 days or so. I'm going to screencap your post for future inspiration.

>>2827377
Most great books took a lot of time to be written. At least a year or two. People have this idea of writing fast because they are used to seeing mechanical authors that finish their books in only 6 months, with deadlines and editors on their backs. I'm talking about creative writing, about writing a good book.

>>2827497
I'm glad I could help. Don't worry about wordcount or counting pages. Your idea is your idea and it should come out naturally, be it a short story or a huge saga. When you count you begin to develop a certain anxiety. You want to finish your book and not write more, you see? Find pleasure in writing more in re-reading what you've done. Take your time. Finishing a book will come to your mind when you're about to finish, when you think you can wrap it all up with nothing more and nothing less of what you wanted to say.

Ask Vollmann.

>>2827295

Editors are mostly a thing of the past. These days, you're expected to do all that shit yourself. Kinda explains why modern literature is so horrendous.

>>2828364
Sort of.

Editors of the past (like Maxwell Perkins and William Maxwell) would take a bundle of loose-leaf sheets from Fitzgerald or Faulkner and mold, arrange, and perfect the text. This is what "editors" used to do. There's a good account in Moss Hart's autobiography about how George S. Kaufman went through one of his scripts, striking out every other line and making changes galore.

Nowadays, editors are basically just proofreaders. They go through and make sure the spelling and punctuation is kosher, but they don't do anything as drastic as change text around and strike out whole pages.

Writers like King just write what they see. They try and add structure to it as they write but don't focus on it. He covers all the grammar and structure after the story is down