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  • File: 1336338426.jpg-(40 KB, 437x336, Dante #12.jpg)
    40 KB Anonymous 05/06/12(Sun)17:07 No.2621176  
    Found this on /pol/.
    I wonder if you'd like to share your thoughts on it:

    http://www.telegraph.co.uk/culture/culturenews/9140869/Dantes-Divine-Comedy-offensive-and-should-be-
    banned.html

    tl;dr some human rights group has said that Dante's Divine comedy is racist, sexist, homophobic, and antisemitic and islamophobic, and therefore should be banned.
    >> Anonymous 05/06/12(Sun)17:08 No.2621178
    Next up: Aristotle banned for justifiying slavery.
    >> Anonymous 05/06/12(Sun)17:08 No.2621180
    >>2621178

    Or Plato for fascism.
    >> Anonymous 05/06/12(Sun)17:09 No.2621181
    >leftists
    >> Anonymous 05/06/12(Sun)17:09 No.2621184
    >telegraph

    Yes, I did some searching - all I could find were shitty right-wing blogs referring back to this single article.
    >> Anonymous 05/06/12(Sun)17:11 No.2621190
    >>2621176
    Yeahyeahyeah,
    idiots cherrypicking idiots to make a case.
    >inb4 200 responses
    >inb4 stormfront
    >> Anonymous 05/06/12(Sun)17:13 No.2621195
    >inb4 this group gets its shit slapped by the Italian government

    It'll never happen, retards.
    >> Anonymous 05/06/12(Sun)17:18 No.2621204
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    >fucking with italian cultural heritage
    >italian
    >guys who invented fascism
    >dismissing their most prided literature because some muslims take offence

    Good luck with that.
    >> Anonymous 05/06/12(Sun)17:21 No.2621210
    >>2621195
    >It'll never happen, retards.
    Famous last words.
    >> Libertarians to the Gas Chambers !!uPKdrNrz+AI 05/06/12(Sun)17:24 No.2621225
    >>2621204
    It's a good thing Italians can't fight for shit.
    >> Anonymous 05/06/12(Sun)17:25 No.2621227
    >>2621210
    no one takes this shit seriously. it's ludicrous. i mean, no one is taking this seriously as a mooted proposal except dumb right wing "YOU COULDN'T MAKE IT UP" assholes who want to use it as a stick with which to rhetorically beat anyone who says that 'maybe screaming racial obscenities constantly is not the best thing we could be doing as a society'.

    no one is going to ban dante's divine comedy because of political correctness.
    >> Anonymous 05/06/12(Sun)17:27 No.2621234
    >>2621210
    come on, really think it will?
    >> Anonymous 05/06/12(Sun)17:27 No.2621236
    >>2621225
    Same goes for Arabs, so I'll get popcorn and enjoy the show.
    >> Anonymous 05/06/12(Sun)17:29 No.2621239
    >>2621227
    You make such a reasoned argument I'm now convinced.
    >> Anonymous 05/06/12(Sun)17:31 No.2621247
    >>2621239
    i'm sorry that i am not arguing from first principles that, as a matter of practical political reality, dante's divine comedy is not likely to be banned.

    it seems to me so obvious that no one arguing in good faith could really disagree? like come on do you really think that is probable. really. do you really, realistically think that's probable. it's clearly not so.
    >> Anonymous 05/06/12(Sun)17:33 No.2621258
    Up next they'll ban 1001 nights for polygamy
    >> Anonymous 05/06/12(Sun)17:34 No.2621263
    The Epic of Gilgamesh is pro prostitution! Boo!!
    >> Anonymous 05/06/12(Sun)17:35 No.2621267
    Marquis de Sade is immoral.
    >> Anonymous 05/06/12(Sun)17:36 No.2621269
    >>2621247
    It's troubling. Libraries and schools are under constant pressure from one group or another to ban something. I agree it's doubful. But it's very troubling.
    >> Anonymous 05/06/12(Sun)17:36 No.2621272
    Original thread here.

    direct link to the thread in /pol/
    >>>/pol/2996072
    >> Anonymous 05/06/12(Sun)17:37 No.2621275
    Remember that nun on TV talking about erotic artworks? She could get into big trouble.
    >> Anonymous 05/06/12(Sun)17:38 No.2621277
    >>2621227
    >Criticize the right for cherrypicking the worst of the worst of the left and pretending it represents the entire left.
    >Pretend that the right is represented by the worst of the worst of the right.
    >> Anonymous 05/06/12(Sun)17:38 No.2621281
    I wouldn't put it past our shitbag politicians to try and put warning on books, like they do with every fucking thing ever invented.
    >This book has been declared RACIST, HOMOPHOBIC, ISLAMOPHOBIC, and ANTISEMITIC by the U.S. Department of Culture.
    >> Anonymous 05/06/12(Sun)17:39 No.2621282
    >>2621272
    Thanks for the link.
    >> Anonymous 05/06/12(Sun)17:39 No.2621284
    >>2621277
    i didn't say, and didn't mean to imply, that those assholes represented anything like the entirety of the right wing
    >> Anonymous 05/06/12(Sun)17:40 No.2621286
    >>2621281
    they don't put warnings on things for political correctness, though. they put warnings on things for "graphic content", that is, things that suburban yahoos don't want their kids seeing. broadly different kinds of things. cmon, get it straight.
    >> Anonymous 05/06/12(Sun)17:41 No.2621289
    >>2621272
    Glad I followed the link.
    10/10, those /pol/boys hit it out of the park every time.
    >> Anonymous 05/06/12(Sun)17:43 No.2621295
    >>2621286
    I think that the inferno merits having a graphic material warning, it is rather graphic. But come on, its hell.

    I think the whole thing is outrageous. What next? Kalevala? Homer? Ibn Khaldun?

    This is pure and simple bashing of white culture.
    >> Anonymous 05/06/12(Sun)17:44 No.2621297
    >>2621272
    oh woah thats actually kind of a good thread
    >> Anonymous 05/06/12(Sun)17:46 No.2621302
    >>2621297
    >>2621289
    I posted the link because I was the OP in the /pol/ thread. This is actually only my second visit (ever) to /lit/.
    >> karma 05/06/12(Sun)17:53 No.2621321
    This reminds me of the bible-thumping red neck idiot psycho Christians and harry potter. No. Just no. This is ignorance. They're probably saying some shit like "It promotes it" or "It makes people do it". Just like some politicians want to ban violent video games because they "cause violence in teens". For the love of your non existing god, shut the fuck up. Just because you don't like it doesn't mean you get rid of it. Christ. I apologize for ranting.
    >> Anonymous 05/06/12(Sun)17:57 No.2621333
    >>2621321
    My niece went to a Christian HS during the Harry Potter boom. My sister, who works there, told me the parents were pretty much slipt down the middle. Half not liking the book and the other hafl thrilled that their kids were reading.
    >> karma 05/06/12(Sun)18:05 No.2621347
    >>2621333
    Aah. This thread reminds me of the jesus camp documentary. That's probably why I'm so pissed off. Interesting to know most were split.
    Nice trips, by the way.
    >> Anonymous 05/06/12(Sun)18:07 No.2621352
    I wish people would realize that just because something is can be taken as offensive doesn't mean it should be banned.
    >> karma 05/06/12(Sun)18:10 No.2621364
    >>2621352
    Agreed.
    >> Anonymous 05/06/12(Sun)18:13 No.2621370
    I don't think anything other than kiddie porn should be banned.
    >> karma 05/06/12(Sun)18:15 No.2621374
    >>2621370

    Don't say that on /b/.
    Although, personally, I second that.
    >> Anonymous 05/06/12(Sun)18:18 No.2621382
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    No other picture is appropriate. If it isn't racist, sexist, homophobic, antisemitic, and islamophobic, then it isn't from 14th century Italy.
    >> Anonymous 05/06/12(Sun)18:18 No.2621384
    It's so emblematic of the dying intellectual culture that people think works need to be placed "in context," as if to say the "correct" context has already been discovered, and is standing at the ready to save poor young people from being exposed to thoughts and ideas that don't exactly resemble their own. It's like intellectual and cultural incest. Jesus.
    >> Anonymous 05/06/12(Sun)18:19 No.2621387
    I think the majority of modern television and pop music should be banned. But not Dantay.
    >> Anonymous 05/06/12(Sun)18:19 No.2621388
    Beowulf should be banned because it glorifies the killing of the retarded.
    >> Anonymous 05/06/12(Sun)18:19 No.2621391
    >>2621370

    Snuff, rape porn (not simulated, actual), bestiality ... Basically anything that can't consent ...

    Not in literature though, no one's actually getting hurt then ...
    >> Anonymous 05/06/12(Sun)18:20 No.2621392
    >>2621388
    Now I want to read Beowulf.
    >> Anonymous 05/06/12(Sun)18:21 No.2621397
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    >>2621391
    But sometime the animal likes it.
    >> Anonymous 05/06/12(Sun)18:21 No.2621398
    well of course it's ridiculous, can't think of anything else to say.
    >> karma 05/06/12(Sun)18:23 No.2621399
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    >>2621388
    >> Anonymous 05/06/12(Sun)18:23 No.2621400
    >>2621388
    Beowulf should be banned because it's boring as all hell.
    >> karma 05/06/12(Sun)18:23 No.2621401
    >>2621391
    Better on paper, then on video.
    >> karma 05/06/12(Sun)18:24 No.2621404
    >>2621401
    God damnit.
    >then on video
    >then
    >THAN*
    >> Anonymous 05/06/12(Sun)18:26 No.2621405
    >>2621391
    Agree. Except for bestiality. Not that I care for it.
    Has it ever been proven there are Snuff, rape porn? Or is it's existence a myth?
    >> Anonymous 05/06/12(Sun)18:28 No.2621407
    >that feel when you can murder and eat your pets but can't make love to them
    >> Anonymous 05/06/12(Sun)18:30 No.2621411
    >>2621407
    I have a dog. And I love my dog. But the furthest we go is petting and face licking.
    >> karma 05/06/12(Sun)18:32 No.2621414
    >>2621405

    If it exists there is porn of it.
    There's a reason no one knows about it.
    We're not supposed to.
    The likelihood of porn including death is slim due to the government and how everyone is "registered" and such... but if there is a will, there's a way. I myself don't know. But someone does.
    >> Anonymous 05/06/12(Sun)18:33 No.2621415
    >>2621411
    I understand. They're a bit hard to convince, but if you keep up the petting, eventually you'll get put it in.
    >> Anonymous 05/06/12(Sun)18:35 No.2621417
    >>2621414
    If either of you want to continue down the rabbit hole, you'll need to get a good set up for the Deep Web made. I used to use Polipo and TOR. You'll need to find you way to the wiki from there. I'm sure someone at that level could help.

    I myself never figured it out, but I didn't care enough to.
    >> Anonymous 05/06/12(Sun)18:39 No.2621423
    >>2621414
    This. Killing the people you fuck is a rather timeless human activity. I don't see why nobody would record it.
    >> Anonymous 05/06/12(Sun)18:41 No.2621426
    >>2621417
    I avoid the "Deep Web". FBI, DEA stings abound without a doubt.
    >> Anonymous 05/06/12(Sun)18:45 No.2621434
    Since we are at it, what tis the most depraved piece of literature you have ever read, /lit/?

    It's Les Chants de Maldoror in my case.
    >> Anonymous 05/06/12(Sun)18:47 No.2621438
    >>2621434
    I try not to read that sort of thing, it isn't healthy, especially when your mind is already given to violent depraved behavior.
    >> Anonymous 05/06/12(Sun)18:50 No.2621444
    >>2621434
    de Sade. Don't even remember which one it was. Still in bookshelf somewhere though.
    >> Anonymous 05/06/12(Sun)18:57 No.2621455
    >>2621444
    I think Lautréamont is even more shocking than Sade.

    In one scene, Maldoror's dog rapes a little girl. When his master comes back the dog runs away but, since his penis had formed a knot, he carries the girl along across a forest. When Maldoror finally manages to catch them, he simply finishes the job by knifing her vagina.

    It is very fucking disturbing, but the text itself is pretty well written.
    >> karma 05/06/12(Sun)18:59 No.2621457
    >>2621417
    Already ahead of you.
    Tor already installed, been down there a couple times myself.
    I just never felt the need to know. Deep web is boring unless you have a purpose there, and I never did find one. Ignorance is bliss..
    >> Anonymous 05/06/12(Sun)19:00 No.2621460
    >>2621455
    I'm not for banning it but I don't understand why stuff like this exists. I think I must be naive.
    >> Anonymous 05/06/12(Sun)19:02 No.2621462
    >>2621460
    Well, he is frequently cited as a major inspiration for Surrealism and Dada.
    >> Anonymous 05/06/12(Sun)19:04 No.2621469
    I think we should just ban everything, easier that way
    >> karma 05/06/12(Sun)19:04 No.2621471
    >inb4 "we should ban the bible because of violence, rape, slavery, etc."
    >> Anonymous 05/06/12(Sun)19:05 No.2621473
    "The human heart is a monstrous beast wallowing in blood, darkness, and sin." - somebody in one of the Hellraiser stories, I can't remember what the name was though.
    >> Standard Toaster !RQTOASTvfI 05/06/12(Sun)19:05 No.2621476
    That same justification could easily be used to argue for the banning of any religious text.
    Some folks just don't think
    >> Anonymous 05/06/12(Sun)19:06 No.2621478
    >>2621460
    It was a major inspiration for most writers of the 20th century.
    >> Anonymous 05/06/12(Sun)19:09 No.2621483
    I was in an airport once and a guy from a foreign country flying home started talking to me. We got on the subject of the internet. He believed that governments should verify the truth of everything before it would be allowed to be put on the internet.
    >> Standard Toaster !RQTOASTvfI 05/06/12(Sun)19:11 No.2621485
    >>2621483
    We should do that with speech, as well.
    Just take away the ability to lie.
    Like in that movie with that one guy.
    Shit.
    Ricky Gervais!
    The Invention of Lying!
    Except before they invent it.
    >> Anonymous 05/06/12(Sun)19:11 No.2621486
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    >>2621400
    >> Anonymous 05/06/12(Sun)19:14 No.2621489
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    >>2621400
    >beowulf
    >boring

    mfw I saw that.
    >> Anonymous 05/06/12(Sun)19:27 No.2621511
    >>2621486
    >>2621489
    When I was young it was an adage; never take any class that requires you to read Beowulf.
    >> Anonymous 05/06/12(Sun)20:47 No.2621735
    >>He believed that governments should verify the truth of everything before it would be allowed to be put on the internet.

    What an odd idea. Why on earth would anyone trust a government to be an arbiter of truth?
    >> Anonymous 05/07/12(Mon)15:47 No.2623400
    >>2621735
    He was an educated guy. Returning home after college here. How anyone could believe that was both troubling and incomprehensible. He probably works for his government now. (He might fit in at the UN)
    >> Anonymous 05/07/12(Mon)16:07 No.2623446
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    >racist, sexist, homophobic, and antisemitic and islamophobic

    LOL @ Western world double-think.

    So many people who subscribe to "left" political constructs harbour an obscene amount of prejudice.
    >> Anonymous 05/07/12(Mon)16:12 No.2623459
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    I bet you could get Muslims to boycott B&N if you publicize that their Classics line has a depiction of Muhammad naked and ripping his own chest open
    >> Richard Feynmann !Hwop/gspA. 05/07/12(Mon)16:12 No.2623461
    >>2623446

    ooze your mucus-trail of privilege while you can, honky slug, the international proletarian revolution will salt you soon enough
    >> Anonymous 05/07/12(Mon)16:14 No.2623468
    >>2623461
    >>2623461
    >honky slug
    >salt you soon enough
    Well done. You won't take me alive.
    >> Anonymous 05/07/12(Mon)16:31 No.2623510
    I bet the "human-rights group" is secretly just a bunch of assdevastated florentines.
    >> Anonymous 05/08/12(Tue)07:43 No.2625429
    Bump
    >> Anonymous 05/08/12(Tue)07:45 No.2625430
    We still have /pol/?



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