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    24 KB Anonymous 10/01/11(Sat)21:28 No.2112196  
    Hey, /lit/erati. I just finished my sixth day working as a bookseller at Barnes and Noble. Responses?
    >> Brendsies !!Lnf+NwmjL7c 10/01/11(Sat)21:30 No.2112198
    How does it feel working for a Bankrupt company?
    >> Anonymous 10/01/11(Sat)21:34 No.2112204
    >>2112198
    How does it feel living in a Bankrupt country?
    >> OP 10/01/11(Sat)21:35 No.2112208
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    >>2112198
    That's Borders. Nice try.

    Although I will say that when I've asked if people have a B&N membership, I get a lot of people who try to use their old Borders memberships instead. It's kind of irritating...apparently people don't follow the news anymore.
    >> Brendsies !!Lnf+NwmjL7c 10/01/11(Sat)21:37 No.2112210
    >>2112204

    I live in Australia one of the few countries that hasn't had to declare itself in a Recession.

    >>2112208
    >>2112208

    I thought most large book retailers were on the border of bankruptcy?
    >> Anonymous 10/01/11(Sat)21:37 No.2112211
    What's the pay like, OP?
    >> Anonymous 10/01/11(Sat)21:51 No.2112230
    >>2112210
    Here's the thing about australia not being in a recession. It only applies to heavy industries exports.
    >> OP 10/01/11(Sat)21:52 No.2112232
    >>2112210
    >border of bankruptcy
    Hurr.
    Eh, as far as I can tell B&N is nowhere near bankruptcy. Our CEO is an intelligent fellow with good business sense, which is apparently what Borders lacked...I have it on good authority from a friend of mine who worked there for 6 years that the company was nigh-criminally mismanaged from a business standpoint. Also, the fact that Borders never put out their own e-reader seems to have been a contributing factor. Times are changing, after all, and B&N's Nook e-reader is apparently keeping us in the forefront of the competition.

    >>2112211
    Minimum wage so far, which in Connecticut is $8.25/hr. Some pretty cool perks, though. Employee discount is 30% off of books, magazines, and assorted junk; 20% off music and DVDs; and half price on all food. All those apply online as well, but not in B&N college bookstores. We also get a benefits package with medical, dental, and life insurance after a certain time, believe it or not.
    >> Anonymous 10/01/11(Sat)21:59 No.2112248
    >>2112230
    really? I would never have guessed.

    Buy shit faggots!

    >>2112232
    $8.25 minimum wage? No wonder Americans harp on about the resergance of slavery.

    I worked in a bookshop (AUS) got paid $20.85 an hour puls 50% of books.
    >> Anonymous 10/01/11(Sat)22:02 No.2112252
    >>2112248

    yeah but then you live in australia

    i would rather be homeless in america than live on an island of convicts
    >> Anonymous 10/01/11(Sat)22:04 No.2112257
    >>2112252
    >implying the average american is any better than a convict.
    >> Anonymous 10/01/11(Sat)22:04 No.2112258
    What kind of potential for promotion is there? I've been thinking about trying to get in somewhere like B&N and work my way to management.

    >>2112248
    >$8.25/hr
    >slavery

    My work is quite a bit less easygoing and far riskier than OP's, and I make less. I didn't realize Australians were this precious.
    >> Anonymous 10/01/11(Sat)22:06 No.2112261
    >>2112258
    jelly
    >> Anonymous 10/01/11(Sat)22:08 No.2112266
    >>2112258
    You're getting shafted and apparently proud of it.
    >> Anonymous 10/01/11(Sat)22:08 No.2112267
    >>2112248
    >$20.85 an hour for a glorified cashier
    >yeahok
    >> OP 10/01/11(Sat)22:10 No.2112271
    >>2112248
    Could be worse...the US national minimum wage is $7.25/hr. I'm actually getting paid a dollar an hour more than many of my fellows simply because I live in a particular state. Admittedly the cost of living in Connecticut is generally a bitch and a half, but there you go.

    It's the corporation mentality of "competitive wages," I guess. Treat 'em mean, keep 'em keen, right?
    >> Anonymous 10/01/11(Sat)22:10 No.2112273
    >>2112267
    It's almost like everyone's time and labour is worth something. Even in an unskilled job!
    >> Anonymous 10/01/11(Sat)22:12 No.2112276
    >>2112273
    You really think someone pointing out books and ringing up sales is worth over $20/hr to whoever owns that place? They'd have to be really goddamn good at it.
    >> Anonymous 10/01/11(Sat)22:15 No.2112293
    The minimum wage in Australia for retail is $18 an hour.
    >> OP 10/01/11(Sat)22:16 No.2112294
    >>2112258
    You know, that's actually a good question. I'm fairly sure the assistant managers (there are apparently about five or so per store) all worked full-time for about 4 years or so before they were promoted, but I'm not sure if any of them lived in the area before the promotion. I know for a fact that my store has gone through four general managers in the last three or four years for whatever reason, and all of them have been brought in from elsewhere---but I don't know whether they had previously worked for the company or been hired specifically to be general managers.
    >> Anonymous 10/01/11(Sat)22:17 No.2112295
    >>2112276
    As long as the job needs doing and the shop makes more than $20 profit in an hour, then yes. Employers will always pay the minimum they can get away with, what they think the workers deserve doesn't come into it.
    >> Anonymous 10/01/11(Sat)22:17 No.2112296
    >>2112267
    >>2112276
    >>2112258
    samefag
    >> Anonymous 10/01/11(Sat)22:18 No.2112298
    >>2112296
    nope.jpg
    >> Anonymous 10/01/11(Sat)22:22 No.2112307
    >>2112295
    Maybe business owners in Aus. happen to be assholes, then...

    >>2112293
    ... And that's probably why. Aus. dollars are pretty close to even exchange with US, too.
    >> Anonymous 10/01/11(Sat)22:23 No.2112311
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    Borders workers reveal what they really think of their customers.

    This right here is why they went out of business, folks. No normal person could stand to be around the kids that worked there.
    >> Anonymous 10/01/11(Sat)22:25 No.2112315
    >>2112307

    Are you trying to say that aus business owners are assholes for complying with a minimum wage?
    >> Anonymous 10/01/11(Sat)22:26 No.2112318
    >>2112311
    'oh no! they try to have principles + not sell out over scrap of dignity they have to suck the customer's dick! this is obviously unacceptable to me'

    fuck you budd
    >> Anonymous 10/01/11(Sat)22:27 No.2112319
    >>2112307
    It doesn't matter if the business owners are assholes you moron, no employer will voluntarily pay above minimum wage for a job there's no shortage of able bodied people prepared to perform.
    >> Anonymous 10/01/11(Sat)22:28 No.2112321
    >>2112315
    No, I'm saying they would be assholes for paying you as little as they can get away with rather than what they think you deserve. Which is why a lot of big businesses who hire poor middle management and keep wages inflexible have high turnover rates for entry-level positions. But I can understand being an asshole if you have to comply with something as ridiculous as an $18/hr minimum wage.
    >> Anonymous 10/01/11(Sat)22:29 No.2112322
    >>2112311
    You've never worked in retail, have you?
    >> Anonymous 10/01/11(Sat)22:30 No.2112324
    >>2112319
    Obviously there is a shortage, if Borders was reduced to hiring this >>2112311
    >> OP 10/01/11(Sat)22:31 No.2112326
    >>2112311
    As a new bookseller I already empathize deeply with the people behind that pic. It's all true.
    Hate to break it to you, bro, but we're all pretty much like that at B&N too. It wasn't employee attitude that sunk Borders. We're either better at hiding it at B&N, like professionals/mature adults, or B&N company hq makes better business decisions than Borders. I'm thinking it's some of the former and most of the latter.
    >> Anonymous 10/01/11(Sat)22:32 No.2112327
    >>2112322
    Obviously, the person who wrote that list out had never worked in retail
    >> OP 10/01/11(Sat)22:33 No.2112330
    >>2112326
    Although I will say that being confused by questions about non-fiction is truly pathetic.
    >> OP 10/01/11(Sat)22:35 No.2112332
    >>2112327
    Nah, bro, I don't think you know what you're talking about at all. Toddle off now, there's a good fellow.
    >> Anonymous 10/01/11(Sat)22:35 No.2112333
    you do realize that ebooks are the dagger that pierced the heart of the Borders heart? that and locations in close proximity to their competitors
    >> OP 10/01/11(Sat)22:56 No.2112388
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    >>2112311
    That actually got me thinking...I did some searching and found pic related. The other side of working in a bookstore.
    >> Anonymous 10/01/11(Sat)23:04 No.2112404
    >>2112388
    That made me tear up really bad. dammit.
    >> Anonymous 10/01/11(Sat)23:23 No.2112452
    >>2112404
    I feel you, bro. Snapshots of life.
    >> Anonymous 10/01/11(Sat)23:26 No.2112462
    >>2112388
    that makes me a whole lot less sympathetic to people that just lost their livelihood. whoever wrote that sounds insufferable.
    >> Anonymous 10/01/11(Sat)23:29 No.2112472
    >>2112462
    Hope you were talking about the other one
    >> Anonymous 10/01/11(Sat)23:32 No.2112483
    >>2112462
    I agree.
    >>2112472
    I hope he wasn't.
    >> Anonymous 10/01/11(Sat)23:37 No.2112498
    >>2112472
    I quote what I mean to quote. That whole rant is Breakfast Club level cringeworthy.

    "Oh no this town just lost its greatest donator of coffee to the military! The community is falling apaaaaart..."
    >> Anonymous 10/01/11(Sat)23:41 No.2112506
    OP is a typical example of someone with a liberal art degree.
    >> OP 10/02/11(Sun)00:39 No.2112604
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    >>2112506
    ...because I happen to have been recently hired at a Barnes and Noble?
    >> Anonymous 10/02/11(Sun)00:42 No.2112611
    >>2112506
    Holy shit I can actually use my degree for something? Thanks for the suggestion!
    >> Anonymous 10/02/11(Sun)00:45 No.2112620
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    >>2112611
    >>2112506
    >> Anonymous 10/02/11(Sun)01:15 No.2112673
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    >>2112604
    >> Ƹ̵̡Ӝ̵̨̄Ʒ 10/02/11(Sun)01:25 No.2112692
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    >>2112673
    >> Anonymous 10/03/11(Mon)00:11 No.2114620
    Bump
    >> Anonymous 10/03/11(Mon)00:35 No.2114652
    >>2114620
    why?



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