a true /lit/ person would never play videogame

tetris

NieR.

have you played x-com

Street Fighter 3.3

Vampire The Masquerade: Bloodlines. Very compelling story with multiple endings and a great setting.

>>2108626
+1

the soul reaver games are fucking amazing, imagine shakespeare writing a vampire tragedy. really good story and characters, especially the first one for PS1. the metal gear solid series is also really deep. all 4 of those games do an awesome job of exploring a broad array of themes and concepts [transhumanism, biotech, masculinity, postmodernism, war], and a compelling cast of characters.

PLANESCAPE: TORMENT.

Widely claimed to have the best story line and writing in video games with deep and meaningful messages/themes. The writing is great and it's set in a very, very interesting world (Planescape, a twisted spiritual nexus set in the same universe as the setting for baldurs gate.)

Witcher 2
Half Life 2
Torchlight
Hard Reset
Grim Fandango

If you're into history and politics. Europa Universalis 3 is the game for you.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=E0p8ay25QY4

Modern game with merit would be Witcher 2, Red Dead Redeption, Bioshock, all Zeldas, Dark Souls etc.

Now go watch a couple animes to make you rplace on 4chan complete. Start with something like Ghost in the Shell, then Texhnolyze or Mushishi.

Dead Rising got me into the new generation of video gaming. Don't get the second one though, just the first.

Very exciting story, somewhat original, over 15 different endings, and a lot of emphasis on the characters.
Only since maybe the LOTR films have I been so attached to a character.

>>2108706
This really is the most "mature" game to probably ever be released, graphics and gameplay are dated but it's a tight exploration into the nature of man

>>2108712
fuck you for making me remember Texhnolyze, that shit is depressing on the scale above tragedies, and on a level where you weep for your own human race as a species and its flawed nature

>>2108712
Yes, RDR is so good. Holy god, you can break it up by reading McCarthy's Border trilogy.

Bakumatsu Roman: Gekka no Kenshi
Dante Gabriel Rossetti
Venetian Snares

>>2108712
dat scene when they are on the surface world and everyone just quietly fades from existence and they slowly become extinct. A lot of the scenes were straight up lifted from Edward Hopper paintings btw http://guriguriblog.wordpress.com/2010/09/23/texhnolyze-2/

but to OP, I suggest doing GHost in the SHell and other more entry level great animes before trying to swallow Texhnolyze

>>2108727
Yeah the human race collectively losing its will to live is a pretty haunting aspect in and of itself

>>2108554

I'm going to preface my whole post by saying I enjoy extremely abstract or theoretical stuff.

As for art, I personally enjoy abstract expressionism (e.g., Rothko) and surrealism (e.g., de Chirico).

Music = post-rock and post-metal, mostly. (Russian Circles, maybeshewill, god is an astronaut, tunturia, kokomo, barrows, sigur ros, mum, long distance calling, if these trees could talk).

Movies/Television: Stargate SG:U (its actually really good, its not like the other ones... which i personally don't like), moon, blade runner, sphere, drive, alien, a clockwork orange, examined life, le dernier combat (the last combat), eternal sunshine of the spotless mind... skins, mad men, extras, game of thrones, avatar, the last airbender (its actually really fucking good, esp. the later seasons), rome, firefly

Games (with good stories or atmosphere): Amnesia: the dark descent, half life series (mostly 2 and on, for the story), metal gear solid, braid, bastion, limbo, ico, shadow of the colossus

Based on /lit/

Planescape Torment - One of the best fantasy works out there in terms of plot, characters, and writing.

Morrowind - Excellent worldbuilding, which you don't see often in the increasingly generic fantasy market.

Dominions 3 - Not as highly recommended as the above as it takes a while to learn, has a ton of micromanagement and games take forever, but its a solid look at religion, divinity, and culture.

If you're looking for art, I'd also suggest Metroid Prime and Shadow of the Colossus, but these are less /lit related.

>>2108723
I forgot to preface my whole post by saying I enjoy extremely good stuff

>>2108761
"Good stuff" like plunking your fat, lazy ass down on /lit/ for hours at a time and arguing inanely with everyone who will argue with you? That kind of "good stuff"?

>>2108774
you forgot to preface your whole post by saying you're fucking retarded

>>2108761

>good stuff
>weaboo arcade shit for autists
>nietzsche
>4chan
>sprinkles his diatribes with 'lol' and curse words

You remind me of that icycalm dude, are you him?

>>2108782
you forgot to preface your whole post by saying you're fucking retarded

At some stage today I read something that described some composer as 'literary' or something like that but I don't remember when or where or who so I'll just pretend it was Messiaen. Look at his hat and wispy white hair. Listen to Quatuor pour la Fin du Temps. Go to sleep at the end.

>>2108792

you forgot to preface your whole post by saying you're boring. Also stop playing weaboo shit, even a paradox interactive title will make you look less like an autist

>>2108792
D&E:

Master of Belittling Retards

>>2108807
you forgot to preface your whole post by saying you're fucking retarded

>>2108810

hey I'm just trying to help you. you're my fav trip so it's embarrassing to see you playing shitty autist games :o)

>>2108820
you forgot to preface your whole post by saying you're fucking retarded

>>2108822

you forgot to preface your whole post by saying you're retarded

>>2108834
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>>2108837

look outside your window, sullivan

OP:
Knights of the old republic 1 and 2 (after playing 2, read the let's play version, which will give you the full story)
Planescape: torment
Mass effect
Dragon Age
Morrowind and Oblivion
Neverwinter Nights if you like fantasy

>vidya
You've played Baldur's Gate, so I'll go with the traditional PC elitist list: Grim Fandango, Deus Ex, Thief 2, VTMB:Bloodlines, Morrowind and S.T.A.L.K.E.R.: Shadow of Chernobyl. They aren't all narratively great, but they are all great games.

>Art
I'm not very well versed in art. I like Dali and the sculptures of Man Ray. I was once captured by the beauty of a painting by Van Der Neer while I was at the national gallery and was saddened to learn that he's completely unimportant to art history.

>films
I would need more specific criteria. What are your tastes?

>music
Easier. By genre:
>Jazz
Thelonius Monk, John Coltrane, Cannonball Adderley and Charles Mingus.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8R-yU8c8NxU
>Blues
Lightnin' Hopkins, John Lee Hooker, B.B. King and Blind Willie Johnson
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BNj2BXW852g
>Dad Rock
Eric Clapton, Bob Dylan, the Beatles, Led Zeppelin
>Prog Rock/80s
Boston, Rush, Blue Oyster Cult, the Cure
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5Tq-UsaRchI
>Grunge/Alt Rock
Soundgarden, Foo Fighters, Smashing Pumpkins, Silverchair, Rage Against the Machine, the Offspring, Cake
>Indie/Hipster Shit
The Pixies, Pavement, The Flaming Lips, Sufjan Stevens, the Mountain Goats, Cat Power, Interpol, the Decemberists
>Gangsta/Backpacker Rap
Wu-Tang Clan, NWA, Dr. Dre, Eminem, Atmosphere, Aesop Rock

Don't know much about other genres.

>>2108859
Me again.

You want films and anime? Uuu, that's a hard too.

Any Christopher Nolan film I guess. First saw movie I guess.
Se7en, star wars

Anime/manga? 20th century boys, Pluto, and anything else by the same author. These are DEFINITELY the best manga you'll read.
A bit harder to get into, as well as being perverted as hell: Mahou Sensei Negima. The story gets pretty intense later on, but it has a lot of historical references (mainly ancient rome and greece). There are guide books and wiki articles that should help you get all the references. While its not NECESSARY to get all references, it does allow you to see foreshadowed events and hinted character development. On the surface, its just stupid humor with action (yes, its an action title, especially after chapter 45), but it has a good story if you can wait. (Don't watch the anime)

Chobits is a fast read with interesting story too I guess (don't watch the anime)

Hm, there might be more...

>>2108875
whoops, stopped posting youtube links there :3

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=C6cb4Q0-nGY
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VvIsEJB5wps
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=azGIf74ICmw
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kl6jwab3HWk
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YsiAsTa0oEI
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YHFKwBxlMTw

Ooh, I like this thread. I guess I'll jump in with what I know...

So, of course you've gotta make some time for the modern classics of Japanese animation. "Anime" as a whole is a shitty medium, burdened by shitty practices and general worthless shit, but there still exist works of true artistic merit, which I think /lit/erati might appreciate.
-Bakemonogatari -- It's practically an experimental art piece. It's the most compelling 15x22 minutes of talking heads and stylized backgrounds you're likely to see (and it's much more enjoyable/approachable than other experimental dialog-centric works like Tatami Galaxy).
-Legend of the Galactic Heros -- Fucking long, for sure, but well worth the time spent. A classic Space Opera that makes some pleasantly thought provoking points about politics and government.
-Five Centimeters Per Second (and Voices of a Distant Star) -- The standouts among Makoto Shinkai's films. These two short films about the bittersweet consequences when human lives touch are most famous for their amazing, almost photorealistic animation, which Shinkai allegedly produced almost entirely by himself.
-Revolutionary Girl Utena -- Perhaps the most literary animated series ever produced in Japan, Ikuhara's masterwork has been compared to Twin Peaks for its subtly significant surrealist symbols, and to mega-franchises like Sailor Moon for its power to define and influence the entire "girls' anime" genre.

I'll continue with some Japanese Porn games I guess, since, well, I also know about those.
-Cross Channel -- As it deconstructs the tropes of the eroge medium, it reveals the meaning of the term "human being" with stunning, incomparable clarity. Reading this game changed my life.
-Sharin no Kuni, Himawari no Shoujo (Wheel Country, Sunflower Girl) -- The rush of understanding I experienced at the end of this game nearly overshadowed the powerful conclusions the story draws about the definition of a society.

Worth a mention: MGS2
You'll either embrace it as post-modernism except good, or decry it as pretentious bullshit.

talk to /tg/.

Anyway bastion was pretty cool if entirely corny.

>>2108712
i bought witcher 1, it was awful shit. So never going to buy witcher 2.
if you want extreme sandbox mode, mount and blade warband and dwarf fortress are both good..

Video games:
I'd definitely recommend Morrowind above all else. It's got a great atmosphere, and the elder scrolls series' lore is amazing. Reading books in-game is very /lit/, and will be very enjoyable in Morrowind.

Film:
Film is one of the few art forms that I see as being on par with literature. For the sake of brevity I won't list all the great films out there, but I do urge you to look on your own. There are many fantastic masterpieces of film, so it's really worth getting into. Another anon mentioned anime, so I'll just chime in on this as well. I'd recommend watching Akira - it's an awesome movie, and one of Japan's definitive films. Yojimbo is great as well, despite its age. It inspired A Fistful of Dollars, a classic western that's also worth a watch. My favorite Clint Eastwood film.

Good thread, yo

>>2108900
Yeah, Urasawa's the fucking man, definitely listen to this guy. Negima sucks though don't bother with that.

>>2109288

When you watch anime, remember you're not expecting much. You'll find horrid plot devices, crappy character development and cliches everywhere, but if you don't expect much from it you'll like it a lot more.

It's like watching 'Cowboys and Aliens' - it was shit story-wise, but I watched it because it was a fucking Western with aliens and because its settings were pretty as fuck.

>>2109336
Pretty much, going into anime/manga with the same expectation as you go into literature is just retarded. Not that there isn't anime out there that has "literary" worth.

If we're recommending anime, I'd suggest Tengen Toppa Gurren Lagann. Only anime I've ever watched, only one I plan on watching, but it was excellent. Deconstructed a lot of mecha cliches while building on them. There was more depth in that than anything I've watched in a long time. Emotionally wrenching as well.
As for games, I'd recommend Portal. If you ignore all the hype and obnoxious fanbase, it's an excellent game. Not much in the way of a narrative if you're looking for that, but it's engaging and makes you think.
Knights of the Old Republic 2 has one of the better narratives and stories I've seen anywhere. I recommend it, but keep in mind it's bugged out the wazoo.

video games are for children

>>2109348
>deconstructed a lot of mecha cliches
>only anime I've ever watched
How do you know, then?

But seriously, TTGL is great, and it and Big O are the only super robot anime that I could ever sit through. TTGL is by the same company that did FLCL, which I would also recommend.

Portal is a spectacular game whose only fault is that it was too short. I'm not sure if it still is, but it was free on Steam a few weeks ago.

Both Fallouts

>>2109379
How many Giant Mecha Deconstructionist anime can there be? lol

>>2109394
Evangelion. Also, if you ever go on /a/ don't even think about calling Gurren Lagann a deconstruction if you don't want to get berated.

>>2109348
>Only anime I've ever watched, only one I plan on watching, but it was excellent.
>Deconstructed a lot of mecha cliches while building on them.

>Only anime I've ever watched
>Deconstructed a lot of cliches
Do you not understand why you aren't allowed to say this?

TTGL exists squarely within the context of the mainline Gainax canon. It's a valuable member of that group, certainly, but it's meaningless to discuss it as a "deconstruction" without applying the context in which it was created. The nature and value of TTGL emerges clearly only when considered against Gunbuster, NGE, FLCL, and Diebuster, in other words.

Gunbuster is Gainax's definition of mecha, and every relevant subsequent work is a different approach to advancing beyond that definition.

(Return field too long, so this will be continued in a subsequent post)

>>2109410 (continued)
To be more specific, I'd have to digress into my own interpretations, so from this point on, I'll acknowledge that I am leaving myself wide open to disagreeing opinions. Please offer a rebuttal if you'd like. Now, then:
Gunbuster defines mecha as unprecedented in scale, psychological, and fueled by self-sacrifice. The other aspects of Gunbuster are, arguably, independent of the definition of the genre as a whole, but many of them remain important to Gainax's continuing thinking on the subject--for example, the themes of casual nudity or the particular strengths and weaknesses of female warriors. Hence, when Neon Genesis Evangelion came along (directed by the infamous Hideaki Anno, the director of Gunbuster), all of these themes and aspects of the definition remain present, but weighted according to a new metric. The epicness of scale that Gunbuster introduces to its setting is paralleled by the psycho-philosophically "epic" premise lurking behind Evangelion. Anno attempts to internalize the external extreme which he has already explored.
In 2000, FLCL brings another, rather unique interpretation to Gainax's mecha definitions and themes. FLCL attempts to increase its scale beyond the fourth wall. Its absurdity asks the viewer to join the psychological story that is, by their definition, central to mecha. Please note that I am not suggesting that FLCL (or NGE) succeeds in IMPROVING on the original ideas present in Gunbuster, just that they are each clearly attempts to EXPAND on that idea.

(fucking return field STILL TOO LONG)

Anime:
Shoujo Kakumei Utena (Hesse's Demian becomes a figurative school with figurative sword fights)
Princess Tutu (seems like a little girls' show but it gets pretty impressive)
Gankutsuou (space Count of Monte Cristo... beautiful, poetic, clever, inventive animation, great music, etc)
Twelve Kingdoms (politics and war in a place like Ancient China but full of fantasy elements)
Legend of the Galactic Heroes (politics and war in space)
Vision of Escaflowne (beautiful, almost reads like a fantasy novel, fate is a major theme)
Nadia: The Legend of Blue Water (the Gainax series people often forget, has Captain Nemo as a super badass)
Riyoko Ikeda's Rose of Versailles (historic France done wonderfully) or Oniisama E (crazy bitches being crazy bitches but you just can't look away from it)
Captain Harlock (anything by Leiji) - space pirates being amazing
Really.. most GAINAX series have something appealing to them... whether ridiculous character development or insane symbolism.
Anything by Miyazaki or Satoshi Kon (RIP)


Art:
William Blake's art certainly was groundbreaking for the time he did what he did. Of course, you guys know him for his poetry already.
Pre-Raphaelites in England did some great, clever stuff and often are overlooked (earlier painters in the movement are ignored even moreso).
Rauschenberg was amazing.

>>2109418 (continued)
When Diebuster comes along, it is actually written as a direct sequel to Gunbuster (well, "sequel" isn't entirely the right term, but for the most part, it is). Diebuster builds on FLCL's absurdity (a form of epicness of scale) while exploring another philosophical question about psychology (the feelings and motivations of an artificial being).
By the time TTGL airs in 2007, all the themes and interpretations it explores have already been animated in one way or another. TTGL integrates FLCL's absurdity, Gunbuster's scale, Diebuster's penchant for tongue-in-cheek philosophy, and NGE's fluid definition of conflict. Is it successful? Yes, in many ways. TTGL is probably one of Gainax's best productions, but its value is clearly greatest in the context of all the other works on which it builds.

>>2108599
Oh god, this. So very much. Nier is my favorite video game. Pretty sure this is the only video game to ever make me cry.

>>2109391
New Vegas is pretty good too.

>>2109397
>This movie has one of the most entertaining opening acts ever.

Anyone here like Suda 51?

>>2109427
Agreed. It's too bad the tech running it was dated when it got released.

>>2109379
I used to have friends who were obsessed with mecha anime and would describe them to me. Then, when I watched TTGL, I saw their descriptions deconstructed. Make sense?

Videogames, eh?

Homeworld
Gothic 1/2
Thief 1/2
Deus Ex
Planescape: Torment
Fallout 1/2
Arcanum
Geneforge
Alpha Protocol
The Witcher 1/2
System Shock 2
Morrowind
The Last Express
VtMR/VtMB
Grim Fandango
Riven
Ultima VII
Psychonauts
Pathologic
The Void
The Path
Rule of Rose
Monkey Island series
Penumbra: Overture
Call of Cthulhu: Dark Corners of the Earth (At least up until the car chase)
Amnesia
Knights of the Old Republic 1/2

Max Payne 1 and 2 might tickle your fancy too, if you don't mine purple prose up the ass.

>>2109460
Also play Europa Universalis 3 if you're into history.

Civilisation is always good if you want to see Ghandi give people a beat down.

And Mount and Blade: Warband is extremely enjoyable.

>>2109420
You've made a wonderful post, here, my friend.
I'm not even mad that you plopped it right in the middle of my giant nerdy rant, because I think you're input falls in just the right place. Gainax is quite worthwhile for a lo/lit/a, and I did indeed pass over Nadia.

All of your other recommendations are excellent too. Even the Pre-Raphaelites. I like their use of earthy, yet vibrant colors. Not that I know anything about art history.

Planescape: Torment as said, is the /lit/est game ever.
One of the few decent plots on videogame, great gameplay, beautiful scenarios and Christopher Nolan totally ripped this off for Memento.

>>2109470
>Civilisation is always good if you are an idiot.
ftfy
but really:
Crusader Kings 2
Europa Universalis 3
Victoria 2
Hearts of Iron 3
do it historyfags, do it

For television, The Sopranos is of course the greatest example of that medium. It seems to go over the heads of many people over at /tv/, but /lit/ should be able to appreciate the ridiculously deep and complex character study of its protagonist. It's a modern day Shakespeare tale.
Another modern day Shakespeare are the Godfather films, which are less of a character study and more an exploration of certain themes, primarily the corrupting nature of power, revenge, betrayal, loyalty and love. From a technical standpoint the third film is nowhere near the quality of the first two (they are the two best films made), but it's the most perfect finish in terms of its subjects and themes.
And here are jus some of the best games in my humble opinion:
Fallout 1&2, Baldur's Gate, Icewind Dale, Planescape Torment, Ocarina of Time, Majora's Mask, Morrowind, Star Wars Knights of the Old Republic, Rome Total War.

>>2109540
>Fallout 1&2
Dude, add New Vegas. Seriously, it has the best historical knock-off faction and the best use of verbal irony I've ever seen in any game.
The Kings and the Followers are anarchic organizations based in Freeside.
The main bad guy is a defector from the Republic, who conquered tribes in the east and plans to cross the Colorado to capture New Vegas as a capitol.

>>2109547
Never played New Vegas (or number 3, for that matter) so I couldn't judge it.
The first two, man...those fucking games...so unbelievable.

>>2109547
Defector of the Followers, too. Also, much of Freeside's drug supply comes from the Khans, who learned Followers and their books.

Now and then, Here and There is a must for anime.

Legends of the Galactic Heroes, much?

Alan Wake was really good imo. Threw out a lot of references to popular horror stories and had an original storyline.

I can't believe no one mentioned this manga.

Mirai Nikki. One of the best completed manga out there

>>2109703
>dat Stephen King lite novel that you read out of order whenever you found a page scattered around the level
>dat Twilight Zone show
>dat feeling of dread throughout the entire game
>dat feeling when you ran out of shots on your revolver and had to run

If I'm quite honest, minecraft is the ultimate "The Knife of Never Letting Go" simulator, just spawn in a swamp biome, then keep running. Pretend the NPC villages are Farbranch, Haven.

Minecraft is the ultimate "The Knife of Never letting Go" simulator.

Think about it.

>>2109753
>>2109756

The fuck? what are the odds

>>2109758
What are the odds that two bored neckbeards would post the same inane bullshit about vidya garbage that doesn't pertain to literature at all on /lit/?

Pretty fucking high, actually.

>>2108554

I have a game which /lit/ might particularly enjoy: Pathologic.
Very interesting world, lots of interaction with NPCs. Interesting story. For me, it basically felt like reading a book but with lots of freedom.

>>2109476
The Pre-Raphaelites were fun because they were rebelling against the rigid standards of the Royal Academy, a lot of pointless paintings of animals and portraits, and a changing art market that did not want to be offended. They pushed a lot of things that made critics really blow up on them after their first exhibit... they played with gender roles, went back to a pre-Renaissance proportion and Medieval placements as a statement on the staleness of art at the time, etc. Interesting time to read about art, and yet the French were having bigger movements towards what became Modernism so the British were often overlooked.

If you've never read manga/don't think you like manga, try this:

http://www.mangareader.net/763-35322-5/oyasumi-punpun/chapter-1.html

Cromartie High School.

Read it, watch it, I don't give a fuck.

>>2108723
i used to like VS a few years ago but now his stuff just gives me headaches :/ the scandinavian one is still cool tho. i listen to more 'music that is not music' electronic now :p

do you dance to him d&e?

bump

Planescape: Torment if you're a pretentious philosophical git.
Europa Universalis III if you're a pretentious historical fiction git.
Fallout (the first one) if you're a lowly genre fiction reading git.

Oh well let me drop in some manga recommendations. I have read a shitload of that stuff. So here we go:

Berserk - fantasy manga, one guy with a huge sword is going around killing big monsters, story ist still somewhat interesting, but the real good thing in this one is the art work, its fucking insane

Blame - Some really interesting manga, I would call it cyberpunk but not so sure if it really fits in. The art is also great.

Biomega - From the maker of blame. Art is great again. Story is a great ride into the lands of 'WTF IS GOING ON'. Still worth it though.

Junji Ito - A mangaka, who does horror stuff and sometimes some really interesting stuff. His stuff is not as gory as other stuff, but sometimes it is creepy and his focus on fear and the way he illustrates it is interesting. For me he is the best horror mangaka out there.

The Laughing Vampire and Mr. Arashis Amazing Freakshow - Two really fucked up mangas. Both belong into the eroguro genre, but they also got a good storyline. Even thought there is rape, gore and sex in it, its not as fucked up as some of the other stuff I have seen.

GOTH - a manga about two emo kids that are interested in death and gore. Every chapter centeres about some kind of murder case that is going on. The story is interesting, the characters are quiet fucked up and there is some gore in it. Worth a try.

Homunculus - One of the best psychological mangas I have read. Its not finished yet, but the stuff that is available is great.

Sword of the Immortal - A samurai manga about an immortal swordsman. Sounds stupid, I know, but believe me its not. The story and the characters are great and the art is getting close to the level of Berserk.

Onani Master Kurosawa - A manga about a teenager who always goes to the girls toilet to masturbate. Overall it was one of the nicest and heartwarming mangas I ever read. I recommend it to anyone who likes nice and heart-warming stories.

>>2110133
what's some new well-made music to listen to ty?

>>2110124

this.
it will make your balls drop and wither away like late-autum leaves, alternatively.

best anime: death note (its brilliant, no other word for it)

music: aphex twin, massive attack,
movie: teeth (its about a vagina with teeth)

>>2108723

>venetian snares

good taste man,
rossz is his best album imo

>>2111305
electronic or just in general?

>>2111333
general

>>2111422
Janelle Monae(Kanye approved!) Joanna Newsom, Gang Gang Dance and James Blake are pretty interesting right now.

>>2111314
>best anime: death note (its brilliant, no other word for it)
Nice way of recommending OP one of the most overrated, stupid and immature animes out there. GEE WHY DON'T WE RECOMMEND BOKU NO PICO it'd be just as lame

>>2109574
No, it's boring and nothing gets solved in the end.

>utena
Watch this if you want to watch 30+ episodes with the same scenes, same music (awesome music tho) and again, another show where nothing gets solved in the end and you're left pretty much to your fantasies about what the hell is going on. I'm not saying this is bad, some shows have done this beautifully (kaiba, bokurano) but Utena is incredibly stupid at it.

>still playing video games and watching anime
It's time to grow up children

>>2111615

Why? As long as you don't spend all day doing this stuff, its just another way of entertainment. Its not different from watching stupid series/movies or reading some shitty novel.

>>2111615
>video games
>for children
it's like i'm really in 1990

naoki urasawa is dope as fuck yall, for real. read manga errday

>>2111615
It's funny because saying that in 2011 pretty much shows you have no friends or contact with people at all

>>2111643
People still collect action figure of little girls. Just because it's 2011 doesn't make it any less immature.
>>2111627
That's why I read good novels

>>2108554
You were recommended so many amazing, artistic games... and you picked Baldur's Gate and Jagged Alliance.
>Oh gee, /lit/, thanks for recommending me Twilight and Da Vinci Code, they are magnific.

>>2111649

I read good novels too, but after a long day at the university and studying, its hard to focus on something like War and Peace, especially if you don't read it in your native language. So I sometimes play a shitty game or read a little bit of manga online before going to bed to stress out.

Kingdom Hearts I & II

>>2111671
what many amazing, artistic games did we miss?

Metal Gear Solid, Ico, and Shadow of the Colossus I think literature fans would really enjoy. Or anyone that appreciates art in general

>>2111971
Metal Gear Solid 2 is an absolute masterpiece.

>>2111671
0/10

>>2113707
rpgs are the genre fiction or metal music or anime films of video games. deal with it.

>>2113824
you actually think metal and anime films are the poorest of their genres? It's like talking to myself when I was 16.

>>2113707
>Saying someone's a troll for saying Sons of Liberty and Shadow of the Colossus are amazing games
Bitch, I will cut you.

Persona 4 is probably the best videogame I have ever played. Use "easy" mode if you're not a gamer though.

OK listen up. If what you want is a playable literary masterpiece go get Silent Hill 1, 2 and 3. 1 is a little weak by itself but it only makes playing 2 all the more brilliant. 3 raps it all up nicely.

If one day universities aren't studying the use of visual metaphor in Silent Hill something went wrong.

>>2108554
If you enjoyed Baldur's Gate 2, you'll love Planescape Torment. The original fallouts were excellent as well. You can actually talk your way through the first one.

Planescape Torment
Okami
Psychonauts
Eschalon
Deus Ex
The Whispered World
Syberia 1 + 2
Grim Fandango
Demons Souls
Red Dead Redemption

>>2114110
you made a mistake dere buddy.

For film:

Broken Flowers
Rushmore
The Royal Tenenbaums
Manhattan
Midnight in Pairs (A million times this, it's my favorite movie)
Love and Death
Adaptation
8 1/2

>>2114152
Oh, 9, not 6.
Carry on then.

Watch Session 9 and Jacob's Ladder, OP.
Also, play Silent Hill. 2, 3, and Shattered Memories.

There's alot to go on here, I'll tell you which ones I can vouch for

Something like Planescape Torment and Arcanum follows on from Baldur's Gate 2. They are both very characterful games with creative worlds and events, all of which are very pleasing to experience and re-experience as someone different. First time I hit Arcanum's denoument slideshow is probably one of the highlights of my gaming
Torment has a compelling narrative and setting. It grapples with big themes in interesting ways
Both of these games have flawed mechanics but this for me has never really detracted from them, indeed learning the ins and outs was satsfying

Vamp the Masq B-lines is a troika game (same dudes as Arcanum) that is again rife with character and a compelling setting for a blank slate character to express himself. Second half of the game flags but there is plenty of greatness to be had.

With the KotoR series, 1 is kind of like the prequel movies you wished you had, and 2 is narrative greatness and an exploration of some of the major tropes of the star wars universe, all in all, they are both pretty enjoyable, and pretty fun

I have not finished Last Express, but so far it's charming.

>>2114185
Top of the list would have to go to Ice Pick Lodges efforts. Pathologic has been mentioned (and is amazing). The atmosphere, the experience, the narrative progression are all perfectly crafted, with alot of intertextuality and postmodernism flying around. Game mechanics themself though will shit you to tears.

The Void is a visual feast, narratively minimalistic which is a sharp distinction from Pathologic. This game is largely atmosphere

Both games are oppressive and the difficulty is punishing, and often mistakes will only become apparent (and unsalvageable) after quite a bit of game time.

The Path is nice, it's kind of like videogame (horror) poetry, but it suffers from a similar drawback to Pathologic. You just need so much patience to get through it, for most without an interest in the subject, it isn't worth it. The soundscape of the game is fantastic, though.

There are also alot of point'n'clickers that are a great time
The Longest Journey series, Sanitarium, even the recent Trauma is short but does what it set out to do reasonably well

It's also important to get Deus Ex under your belt. Not only because it was quite well done, but it was part of trend that really started bringing genre hybridization to the fore

I'm still trying to get Rule of Rose working on emulator

>>2108743
We have very similar tastes in media. I understand this isn't really the board for exchanging contact details, but would you be interested in being bros of a sort?

I will give one necessity of each.

>game:
Europa Universilas 3

>films
The Leopard by Visconti

>music
Johnny Hartman - I Just Dropped By to Say Hello (Ballads)

>painters
Aaron Smith

Game: Morrowind
Anime: Cowboy Bebop

Bioshock
Oblivion
Skyrim (coming out in November)

>>2111296
Reading some and enjoying. Got any more manga recommendations?