I don't smoke.

>>2105871
Take it up, it's an enjoyable hobby.

>smoke damage to books
no.

Just normal Lucky Strike cigarettes, but not always. Right now I am reading Dorian Gray and the occasional cigarette is quiet nice.

Some fine Turkish shisha.

Love me my hookah, especially when reading Lewis Carroll.

surprisingly good taste in this thread, i was expecting marlboro and newport fans

I quit 6 months ago

>>2105874
no it's not, it makes you stink, makes it hard to breathe, makes you irritable, and costs a ton of money. I hope I never start again

>>2105882

good thing your not irritable anymore

>>2105882
Then don't smoke so goddamn much. Like everything else take it in moderation, then you won't smell so bad and cough up a lung after jogging ten meters. Roll your own if you're poor, it tastes better and kicks better anyway. Two cigs a week here.

marijuana

I used to chain smoke hand-rolled American Spirits while I sat nestled up close to a wood stove and read late into the night.

Since I quit smoking cigarettes and moved away from my house with a wood stove, I read a lot less.

I still smoke cigars from time to time; my favorites are Brickhouse and Arturo Fuente

>>2105893
I recommend you try reading in the bathtub. What you miss, I bet, is the feeling of warmth.

But hell I read with a glass of McClelland's Scotch, so what do I know about controlling my vices?

>>2105896
Nah, it was more the fact that I lived in a small house in the middle of the fucking woods in rural missouri, and had nothing better to do. I happened to quit smoking right around the same time I moved.

But damn do I miss that wood stove.

Peter Jackson Originals. Not sure if they are available outside of Australia.

Smoke a pipe from time to time. My favorite tobacco is Westminster from GL Pease.

Recently I'm trying to quit by using snus from Sweden. My favorite varieties are General Onyx, Romeo y Julieta, Skruf Stark and 02 portions. Loose my favorites are General, Ettan and G. rape.

Lucky Strikes, Marlboro Reds, Turkish Golds. Haven't smoked for a while.

>>2105885
I aint even mad

>>2105886
That's great for you. I've smoked four cigarettes since quitting, always when I'd been drinking heavily, but if I were to smoke even close to 2 a week I'd fall back into old habits and be back to smoking a pack a day again.
I don't trust myself that much

I follow after my favorite writer and smoke unfiltered pall malls. I'm hoping it will help get me published like him, a luck charm if you will, that tastes damn fine

Lucky Strike is my brand as well. it's toasted motherfuckers.
Dunhill (Red) - dat shit is smooth
Winston Classic - rich flavor but a bit too strong for me so I only smoke it occasionally

Blue American Spirits.

Marlboro reds or captain black white label.

>>2105886
>Like everything else take it in moderation
Pic related, originally made about smoking weed, but it works here as well.

My friends, smoking is bad for you, don't do it!

>>2105921
I wasn't really aware of Pall Malls before I read some Vonnegut. Glad I had them brought to my attention. Cheaper and a better smoke than GPCs and Mavericks.

Though I'd gladly take a cool Newport over anything.

>>2106080
That's wrong. There genuinely are things that are ok if done in moderation. Smoking may be one of them.

I had to quit a couple of months ago because my gums were receding and getting fucked up. I have so much more energy now and am hornier, but I think I'd keep smoking if I could. Fuck energy and hornyness.

>>2106101
Oh I'm willing to admit there are some things that are okay with moderation. But the person I quoted said
>everything
I don't think smoking is one of them though.

>>2106080
That picture fails on the basic premise that all of the actions that smoking weed is being compared to harm another person and deny them their rights. Smoking does not, in any way, shape, or form. You'd be better off comparing it to eating fast food. Which is a similarly personally harmful act that's just fine done in moderation.

>>2106080
Additionally, something being against the law does not make it wrong. All it says is that the people who currently control the state view it as wrong. Law has nothing to do with right or wrong. Good acts have been illegalized before (it's been illegal in many societies to prevent a man from beating his wife) and evil acts have been granted state approval many times before (Hitler and Stalin both legally performed many horrible actions with popular consent of their particular societies). So fuck you, fuck the law, fuck the state, and most of all fuck everything you stand for, you morally bankrupt lemming.

>>2106166
>>2106150
yes...it's a troll picture
but that doesn't mean that something like smoking, while not harming anyone else, is something that's good for you, even in moderation

>>2106080

Bullshit pic is bullshit. Fuck you and fuck Quentin.
I don't smoke weed, but the fact is, if it is bad or hell if smoking is bad, the fact is, you are (mostly) doing it to yourself.
Comparing this shit or smoking weed to rape and murder is just retarded. Goddamn I knew Quentin was stupid as hell, but it seems here are a lot of lemmings who are as stupid as he is or even stupider for actually posting his stupid pictures.

>>2106184
Quentin is too busy wearing plastic armour these days.

Someone has to troll in his stead.

>>2106080
the genocide committed by the nazis was in accordance with the legal system of germany at the time. by your argument, smoking pot is literally worse than the holocaust. this is absurd and obviously wrong.

Nothing, because that shits bullshit.

>>2105874

No it's not. It's a shit drug that doesn't even get you high, it just gets you hooked. And then when you come off the fucking drug, you get fat. Bastard tobacco.

Stupidest thing I ever smoked, including heroin.

weed

>>2106184
>>2106191
>>2106217

Nobody really plays much attention to Quentin these days. Everyone knows he'd get destroyed in any serious debate irl.

has or weed

Nub Maduro. Relaxes the shit out of you.

Smoking is a way to settle the anxiety that arises from the conscious person's suspicion that they lack free-well. It is an illogical, irrational act that stands against sensibility and is an adolescent (culture/mentality, not intelligence/age) means of asserting one's own significance: replaced, recently, by a rise in self-harm by cutting.

>>2106325
*free-will
obviously

>>2106325
>mfw someone actually posts something like this

I agree 100%.

>>2106319

>these days.

Implying anyone ever paid any attention to that fucking knob. Last I saw he was shitting up /v/ I think it was.

Oliva Series G.

Made to fight Godzilla.

People often ask me how I maintain my marvelous physique.

Dunhill Blues, I tell them. Dunhill Blues, all day erry day.

[b]Smoking.[/b]
Pros: Makes you feel good. Some might say makes you "look cool".
Cons: Cancer. It's expensive. It gives you bad breath. No matter what you guys say, it's still a drug and it'll get you hooked.

So now tell me, how come you don't realize smoking is just the same as buying expensive clothes or jewelry? Most of you wouldn't replace smoking by, let's say, taking nicotine patches or gum. Why? Because smoking has this "rebellious" component to it. You see people smoking in T.V., magazines, and you get mesmerized by the smoke coming from their mouths, this can't be bad for me, look at all these people, they can't be wrong.
While it might give you a sense of momentary satisfaction, it's bad for you on the long term. AND IT'S BAD FOR ME AS WELL because once you get fucking cancer someone is going to have to take care of you until you die. And that costs money.

As a European with a modicum of taste, the amount of NCs in this thread disgusts me.

>>2106349
Someone bought into the DARE program a bit too much. Listen kid, we're all going to be dirt in the ground so I might as well enjoy something that's bad for me. I have no illusions to immortality through good living and even had a friend that never smoked die of lung cancer. About that point I realized that If Its going to happen, best give it a reason and meat destiny standing on my own god damn terms. Life is too short to be whining about whats going to kill you when everything can.

So smoke'em if you got'em.

>>2106355
Smoking Americans saved your countries ass.

>>2106356

But smoking's not enjoyable, not the way weed or booze or pills or reckless sexual intercourse or hazardous sports are.

I'm all in favour of spicing up existence and laughing at the reaper, but using a substance that gets you hooked, leaves you gasping and makes you smell nasty WITHOUT ANY POSITIVE EFFECT is just dumb.

Yeah, former two pack a day smoker, and I started out smoking just a couple of cigarettes a week because I was a hipster too. Took me years to get off the fucking things.

>>2106357

No, that was vodka swilling soviets - smoking americans basically came over when the fighting was all but done, and still lost more troops than anyone else. Because they are stupid, and their government treats them as cannon fodder.

>>2106361
Psh. Eastern block fag. Go suck some water for your reactor.

>>2106325
smoking did calm me down, but the only reason I was agitated was because I was craving nicotine.
It's like saying eating Twinkies calms you down, but the only reason you're not calm is because you're crashing from the last batch of Twinkies you ate. It's a post hoc fallacy

>>2106080
This is a massive reductio ad absurdum...

>>2106360
Never got a nicotine buzz? Never enjoyed the flavor of a cigar? Should have tried Pipe or Cigar. Cigarettes suck. No body, little flavor, and filters are fiberglass. Also learn some self-control. I can go weeks or months without having a cigar. And I really can't take you seriously if you think weed is better.

Fun fact: Montecristo Cigars are named for the book Count of Montecristo being repeatedly read to the rollers on the factory floor. sound /lit/ to me.

>>2106369
You think that nicotine buzz is worth all the risk associated with it? I don't, I can get the same kind of buzz by standing on my head for a few minutes. Some cigars are somewhat enjoyable, but it's never because of the flavor, it's because of the ritual.

>>2106371
Do you think driving is worth the risk you take?

Every time you get in the car you risk life and limb to the mercy of unskilled poorly trained drivers. And you do that DAILY.

Go live in fear. Make it sound like smoking is a cardinal sin or something. If it kills me it kills me, at least I had a hand in it. Seriously though, you sound like a 6th grader who learned about it from their DARE officer.

>>2106368

>>2106373
lol

Non-smoking master race.

>>2106372
absolutely it's worth it, If I didn't take that risk, I would need to walk 16 miles to and from work every day, 21 miles to and from school twice a week. There are real tangible benefits to driving an auto. What did smoking ever do for me? It made me spit a whole lot, made my clothing stink, made my teeth and fingers yellow, made me short of breath, and cost me a ton of money to boot.
If you want to smoke, fine no one's stopping you, but if you want to claim that it's some great hobby, you're gonna have to do better than lame ass nicotine buzz, cigar smoke "flavor," and bad analogies to cars.

>>2106384
>If you want to smoke, fine no one's stopping you
well actually liberals ARE.

>>2106377
Non-smoking master race.

>>2106384
Take a bus. In the end what did all that schooling and driving get you? Money? What did money bring you?

At least in smoking I got to record experience for memory's sake. You did yours for empty pursuits.

>>2106356
Hi, either you learned your morals from a 12-year-old child or maybe you are that child, in which case I probably shouldn't be talking to you.
The "I'm going to die anyway so fuck it" argument is so childish, I really was expecting something better, although this has been only one response to my original message so I'll wait for something more interesting.

>Life is too short to be whining about whats going to kill you when everything can
Heh why don't you go and jump into a lion's cage, the lion might kill you but I can guarantee it's gonna be a hell of a fun experience.

>>2106386
no they're not, they just make you go outside and put pleasant pictures on the side of your pack

>>2106390
let me kick you in the nuts so you can get to record this experience

>>2106390
>implying smoking isn't an empty pursuit

>>2106399
Its a metaphor for entropic systems.

Oh you silly aspies. Lots of people smoke because they are around other people who smoke. You know, in bars and clubs and outings with friends. Going out for a smoke is a nice way to commune with other people. It's a ritual, a social thing.

>>2106390
have you ever taken a bus before? I didn't have a car for about 8 months last year. It took me 2 hours to get to work and 2 hours to get home when it takes 15 mins by car.

>>2106369

>Never got a nicotine buzz?

Yep, for the first few times I smoked. You get habituated pretty quickly htough. And in terms of buzzing, it's on a level with holding your breath for a long time - it's hardly party hearty.

>Never enjoyed the flavor of a cigar?

Yup, but I think anyone who smokes a cigar before they're fifty looks like a complete dickhead. It looks like you're sucking a turd.

>Should have tried Pipe or Cigar

See above. I occasionally use snuff now to give me the mild nicotine high, It's a cleaner nicotine feeling and it's less aggro on the lungs.

>filters are fiberglass.

Absolute nonsense. Urban myth. PROTIP: They don't have asbestos in them either

>Also learn some self-control. I can go weeks or months without having a cigar.

Yup - that's what I said when I started smoking. That's actually what most people say, believe it or not. Very few people in my experience look at tobacco andthink "Hey, I think I'll get addicted to this stuff and spend the rest of my life paying out the arse to Philip Morris.

>And I really can't take you seriously if you think weed is better.

Fair enough - I can't seriously accept the opinion of anyone who thinks that smoking the products of government sponsorship, organised addiction and chemical fertilisation is a good idea. Each to their own.

>>2106399
You'd have to leave the safety of your padded home.

>>2106404
Yep.

Cry me a river.

>>2106400
you're so deep bro
enjoy coughing up black shit in the shower

>>2106407
well I was kind of expecting you'd walk to my place since you love experiencing the real world so much.
Maybe you could smoke like 20 cigarettes on your way here to make it a more pleasant memory.

>>2106408
great argument bro

>>2106411
enjoy shitting you pants as you die an old-man in a hospital as your kids squander your money and fuck up their chances in life. Enjoy the feeling of falling apart and needing replaced hips and knees. Enjoy being on dialysis for your inability to produce glucose after your kidneys fail.

>>2106418
what about those of us who reach that age healthy enough to decide that suicide is a much better way out that coughing blood and lying in bed watching your family cry and suffer around you, just because you had no personality and couldn't say "hey smoking is stupid maybe I should do something else"

>>2106414
If find simplicity wins the day.

>>2106422
Carry over that principle to the act of killing yourself

>>2106421
Suicide is for fags.

Go be emo elsewhere.

>>2106418
oh my, that sounds horrible, you're right, I'd much rather die 10 years sooner from lung cancer, while suffering from COPD, and the inability to get my dick hard because after years of smoking the blood vessels to my dick have collapsed

>>2106418

>Implying that those of us who live longer don't have a better chance of the next generation of medical advances.

It's more likely that he'll be enjoying his bionic shag-body-system full of prostitutes and electro-drugs while you're enjoying your cold cold grave.

Immortality is just around the corner - I don't want to be one of the last generation to die.

>>2106428
>transhumanist fantasies.

>>2106423
How quaint. Did you come up with that on your own? Or did your mom help?

>>2106424
Smoking is for fags.

Go be chemo elsewhere.

>>2106430
My mother died from lung cancer. she smoked her whole life (40 yrs)
MY BATTLE IS AGAINST THIS DEMON OF THE 21ST CENTURY WHY CANT YOU UNDERSTAND THIS

hey being random rofl is so much fun, I understand now the nature of your posts :) let's now discuss why black people don't belong in the United States!

>>2106425
Like you were using your dick.

Don't make me laugh.

>>2106434
excuse me, but I do fap quite a bit thank you very much

The dick thing was what made me stop smoking - I'm in my thirties (yeah oldfag, deal with it) and the last thing you need is any more pressure on the old feller.

32 years old with a viagra prescription, almost certainly smoking related. Not cool, hombres. I have to pay EUR 11 just for a fuck.

>>2106438
BUT THE FLAVOR
AND THAT MILD BUZZ YOU SOMETIMES EVERY ONCE AND A WHILE GET

>>2106418
Suiciding pre-40, that cool with you?

Alot of hipsters on /lit/. I knew there were a few, but this just proves to me most of /lit/ is hipsters.

For the people who say that "you are only doing harm to yourself" has clearly never had to share a seat with someone who has just smoked and smells like fucking shit. It makes you want to vomit, so at that point, you're causing me discomfort so you are harming other. That and second hand smoke. I can't count the millions of times I've been walking on the street minding my own business and someone infront of my lights up and blows out smoke sending it right into my face.

>>2106443
You keep bringing up living longer, but as I pointed out its not really a picnic. I'm saying live. Not fuck your life to high hell, but fucking live. Consequences be damned you bunch of self-righteous tards.

Think of it this way. My smoking kills me sooner which means you get my social security. That good enough for you?

>>2106448
You keep suggesting that smoking improves the quality of the life you lead. I smoked for 7 years...I wouldn't say smoking improved my quality of life at all
if you feel like it improves YOUR quality of life, go ahead and suck on that fag

>>2106454
Since you Europe is that meant to be a clever play on words?

>>2106457
I'm American, and yes

>>2106454

>>2106462
He smoked for 7 years. I think he has a right to make a fair judgement on this.

>>2106463
and in that 7 years he probably smoked the cheapest shit he could by behind the gas station counter.

i smoked heavily from 18-24 and off and on until i was 27. it's pretty stupid to continue even that long, but i don't blame people for smoking when they're young.

So, even after this bullshit thread, I'm the only person who uses snus? ;_;

Anyone who wants nicotine when in class or at work should go to the Northerner site and buy a few tins. Start with General Onyx, maybe Romeo y Julieta. Skruf stark is also good. If you like portions consider buying an Icetool and a few tins of loose for when your at home.

You basically just grab a portion and stick it in your top lip between your lip and gum and let it do it's thing. The way it is made cuts out a lot of cancer causing stuffs. The last cancer risk I saw attributed to snus was only pancreatic and it is far lower than smoking. No mouth cancer like with American dip either.

>>2106464
lol, because if I would have smoked benson & hedges instead of Marlbaro 27's, my whole experience smoking would have been different

>>2106469
Actually.

Yes. It would have.

>>2106375

>>2106471
well fuck, it looks like I'm off to the gas station to pick up a pack. I'm sure this time I won't hack up tar in the shower and my fingers and teeth won't get stained with nicotine

>>2106475
Sorry I couldn't hear you over the sound of your bitching.

>>2106488
It's not bitching, it's illustrating a point
no cigarette is healthy, and all of them are going to fuck up your lungs with tar and stain your hands and teeth and stink up your clothing and hair. Smoking an expensive brand or a mediocre brand doesn't change that.
Why don't you explain to me how smoking an expensive brand is in any way different then a less expensive brand.

cigarettes are disgusting

>>2106494
inb4 "flavor"

>>2106494
Repeating the same comment doesn't make you more right.

>>2106496

Damn you. But seriously, have you ever smoked? There is a difference in flavor you know. Compare a Dunhill with some cheap ass shit. Different taste and it doesn't even leave an umpleasant smell on your clothes afterwards.

>>2106500
yes, I know there is a difference in flavor, and I also know that of all the different brands I've tried, not a one of them is a pleasant flavor

>>2106503

Fair enough then.

>>2106499
not making an argument doesn't mean you've won the argument. I also asked you a question at the end, but you don't have an answer so you're going to ignore that.

>>2106508

I tried smoking once and it was absolutely terrible. I will never understand the appeal of smoking.

I don't smoke as I outgrew breastfeeding.

>>2106561

not even neo-freudians believe that shit anymore.

>>2106561
I didn't

Tits are awesome. http://www.bigboobsalert(dot)com/hinano-sakaki-sweater.php

>>2106549
It makes you look cool.

Don't you want to be hip?

>>2106549

Well the first time always sucks. that's because you are poisoning yourself and naturally, the body feels sick. Then you get used to it.

>>2106566
It didn't even flicker. My father's a doctor that studies breast cancer. The breasts are no more appeling then the forehead thanks to him. That's why I'm a leg and ass man.

>>2106360
I don't enjoy smoking and therefore it is not an enjoyable activity and I cannot figure out why anyone would do something like that.

>>2106568
That sounds like something intelligent and fun. I'll poison myself over and over until I get use to it!

>>2106587
"My name is Debi-downer! I didn't enjoy smoking so no one else should!"

That's what you sound like.

I love me some Luckies. Smoking after a hearty meal or while having a beer with your mates is good stuff. I also smoke one in the morning while I have my coffee. I don't smoke a lot though. Don't see the point of always puffing away. Takes away the pleasure of a good, relaxing smoke.

>>2106597
This.

Doing it right.

>>2106597
So you don't often eat a hearty meal, drink beer with friends, or drink your morning coffee?

>>2106621
You don't often shit up a thread?

>>2106624
Well, we can see you get mad often.

This thread smells like a farmhouse filled with animal shit. Oh wait, that's just the smell of cigarette smoke clinging to the faggots in this thread.

>>2106640
You seem to have a fixation on cigarettes when i posted cigars in this thread.

I read the first chapter of Catcher in the rye while smoking a blunt. That's some pretentious elitist shit rite dere...

>>2106349
>Most of you wouldn't replace smoking by, let's say, taking nicotine patches or gum. Why?
Because smoking involves fire. It's primal and Promethean, and smoke has this beautiful rhythm to it, this taking in and releasing, that other forms of nicotine delivery don't have. Smoke gives empty air space, it gives it substance, it lingers and moves about.

Smoking is beautiful in a way that only a writer can find beauty in an ugly thing. I'd expect /lit/ to understand that better than any other board on 4chan.

>>2106646
I have only talked to you twice, so I don't know what your talking about. If you'd notice, I'm not a tripfag.

Of course, you just admitted that you pretended to be a new poster so you could bump this stank filled thread.

>>2106640
american spirits are one of the few brands that don't smell like horseshit, can't buy them in vancouver anymore, canadian production of similar is called northland or something and fucking expensive.. Marlboro lights from mexico are probably the best ones i've had but there are brands in europe expensive ones that you would never see here, as refined as the finest cigars.
i don't smoke anymore but i understand the allure, if money wasn't a factor and i lived out of the way, reading , writing or working in seclusion then i wouldn't give a shit. the worlds full of vampires anyways. and death is only important in relation to life.

>>2106654
drinking > smoking

>>2106655
You lost your mind?

>>2106658
Smoking< Drinking. Smoking allows rational thought.

I've never smoked while reading. Should I try it sometime?

I like to smoke when I go out for a walk and when I'm out drinking. I'd say I have about 1 fag a week.

look guys, i wish i could smoke with no effects; smoking is pretty good
but i realized it messes with my dick a bit so the second or third erection of the day will be kind of shitty

anyway i used to smoke, in order of preference: nat sherman naturals; davidoff (the red pack); marlboro mediums; mild seven 6s. now i just smoke "fake drugs" from time-to-time. they aren't very good, but i generally need to stay legal.

>>2106659
You like dick?

>2011
>smoking

One nice thing about smokers is that they don't feel the need to but into other people's conversations about not-smoking and cause a big fucking scene

>>2106662

>Implying inhaling poison willingly is rational

>>2106662
>smokers
>rational
>whining cuz you can't handle a little alcohol

listen guys who hate smoking, did your mom get lung cancer or something? there was an annoying guy like you in my high school but we tolerated that shit because of the mom situation. otherwise he would have been ostracized.

>>2106686
sure the cool kids went outside to smoke, but they are all losers with a bastard child or two(likely a nigger) and zero income now.

>>2106686

I bet you were one of the really cool kids

>>2106690

I love this kinda loser logic. Yeah bro, you are totally on top of the pecking order now.

>>2106621

I was refering to the fact that I am a casual smoker. I have like 3-4 per day and about 3-5 when I'm out drinking or clubbing. I know people who smoke a pack per day. They are compulsive smokers who no longer enjoy the simple pleasure of having a smoke.

op here, I just wanted to know what people smoked, i wasn't trying to spark a debate and turn brother against brother and friend against friend ;_;

>>2106723
Shut up, faggot.

This is the worst thread I have ever seen.

>>2106726

This thread gave my puppy cancer. Oh no wait, it was the second hand smoking

>>2106726
this might be the worst anonymous thread i've ever seen on /lit/, but it's not even close otherwise

>>2106731
This is the worst post about the worst thread I've ever seen.

>>2106726
stick around, we weren't even trying with this thread, I guarantee we can do worse

>>2106726
>>2106731
itp: we just came on /lit/ two days ago and are not aware of its many smoking threads

This is the best thread on /lit/ since the one about "what alcohol do you guzzle as you read n write"

I myself am partial to Parliament Lights. They have an alright flavor for lights and I like the recessed filter, makes it easier to hold in my lips. Using a normal filter cig feels flimsy

how do you guys smoke while reading? just leave the cigarette/pipe in your mouth and puff away? it tends to distract me when i have to lift to my lips every little while

>smoking
>while reading
lolno. It'll kill ya and obscure the book

>>2106780
That's why I use dip. Sometimes though I wish I could find some old style snuff that you could snort like cocaine.

>>2106780
I've never had any problem with being distracted by smoking while trying to do other things. When you smoke enough, it becomes second nature.

>>2106796
I know it's still possible to get it, since I've had some before, but I honestly have no idea where

So coffee, nicotine, alcohol, and cannabis. Are there any other drugs you guys consume for literary reasons?

>>2106816
Meth

pic related, it's me.

>>2106818
you must go through tons of books a year smoking meth while you read...

>>2106819
Actually I just use it to write tons of books rather than read any.

>>2106816
DMT is great pretty much any time

Weed because tobacco tastes like shit and its slight buzz just isn't worth all the money.

""I believe that pipe smoking contributes to a somewhat calm and objective judgement in all human affairs."
-Albert Einstein, 1950