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    164 KB Truman Capote !!cO9KVBDtkqQ 09/02/11(Fri)18:23 No.2052936  
    Goddamnit /lit/

    Why do people care about fashion?

    Can someone recommend me a book which will enlighten me as to the paradox as to why people are so attracted to such a seemingly vacuous and manipulative phenomenon?

    It's seductive like totalitarianism, that's what i've learned from Kundera. I'd like a book which shows the other side, as it were.

    pic related, it's fashion.
    >> Anonymous 09/02/11(Fri)18:28 No.2052947
    lol thtas just because you're fat
    >> Truman Capote !!cO9KVBDtkqQ 09/02/11(Fri)18:41 No.2052960
    >>2052947

    the polar opposite unfortunately

    anyway help me /lit/

    credible fashion /lit/
    >> Dr. Seussicide (SLAF) 09/02/11(Fri)18:44 No.2052966
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    >>2052936
    >Not being interested in fashion.
    Truman, you're so basic, but I still love ya.

    Seriously though, I don't know much about fashion outside of Heroinchic, so I am of no use in this thread.
    >> VeiL !!LpJFJwZq2Js 09/02/11(Fri)18:49 No.2052969
    The aesthetics of a fetching or well thought out outfit can be a positive enforcer in one's mood. Look good, feel positive. Just another element to a being. There's nothing really evil about it. Just don't be too excessive, unless you have the wallet to shoot for the stars. It's culture.
    >> Anonymous 09/02/11(Fri)18:50 No.2052972
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    Goddamnit /lit/

    Why do people care about status?

    Can someone recommend me a book which will enlighten me as to the paradox as to why people are so attractive to such a seemingly vacuous and manipulative phenomenon?

    It's seductive like totalitarianism, that's what I've learned from Kundera. I'd like a book which shows the other side, as it were.

    pic related, it's status.
    >> Anonymous 09/02/11(Fri)18:50 No.2052973
    In my experience, everyone has to have that one prominent driving interest that defines them as well as occupies their mind.

    For some, this is literature. For others, it's photography, or travel. Still others, it's fashion. Film, music, interior design, chess, cycling.

    If you think of things like fashion and photography, these are (for lack of a better expression) "easy-tier" preoccupations. Anyone at all can become an expert in these fields, and they are ready-made for self-definition. It's far harder, for example, to pick up figure skating or mathematics as your overarching interest than fashion is.
    >> Truman Capote !!cO9KVBDtkqQ 09/02/11(Fri)18:52 No.2052976
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    >>2052966

    I am interested, I just want to know if there is some deeper artistic appeal to it or if it's really as vapid as it seems. A kind of socially acceptable pornography.

    Is it just another industry exploiting our primordial, evolutionary desires (like pornography) or is there something culturally redeemable within fashion?
    >> Anonymous 09/02/11(Fri)18:53 No.2052979
    >not leveraging your looks and fashion sense to impress and seduce people

    Man, I thought you guys were smart.
    >> !WvWWh.l.CE 09/02/11(Fri)18:54 No.2052981
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    >>2052973
    this would be a cool op post in /fa/.
    >> Anonymous 09/02/11(Fri)18:54 No.2052982
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    oh truman
    >> Anonymous 09/02/11(Fri)18:57 No.2052989
    >>2052981
    Accompanied by the $500,000 starting guy.
    >> !WvWWh.l.CE 09/02/11(Fri)18:57 No.2052991
    >>2052989
    oh hey i was looking for him in my reactions folder. anyone got him?
    >> Anonymous 09/02/11(Fri)18:59 No.2052995
    kundera talks about fashion?

    which book?
    >> Dr. Seussicide (SLAF) 09/02/11(Fri)19:01 No.2052998
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    >>2052976
    In a lot of ways fashion is a comment on modern society. It can be argued fashion is the forerunner and the new 'culture' follows. But the real truth is, fashion just picks up on the rising sociatal norms. For example; the heroin-chic campaign in the 90's got slack for influencing developed nations that being an addict was okay. This was not the case, it was merely a comment on how drugs have become mainstream over the years and how in the 80's and early 90's everyone was dabbling in some form of narcotics.

    Like literature, fashion merely echos that in which the people who work in the trade see around them.

    Tommy Hillfiger for example now promotes mostly 'casual' look models. Calvin Klien the same. why? Because it is a comment on contermporary culture. We are no longer worried as much as we were with our looks. We are less busy, less intent to impressive. Todays society is lazy and fashion shows that with the 'casual' look it is promoting.

    Note: Casual means regular people look, not casual as in football hooligan.
    >> Truman Capote !!cO9KVBDtkqQ 09/02/11(Fri)19:02 No.2053000
    >>2052995
    uuh.... ever heard of the unbearable lightness of being?
    >> Anonymous 09/02/11(Fri)19:03 No.2053002
    Because it's good to look good, dig?
    >> Anonymous 09/02/11(Fri)19:03 No.2053003
    go to /fa/
    >> Truman Capote !!cO9KVBDtkqQ 09/02/11(Fri)19:08 No.2053013
    >>2052998

    Ah okay so what you're saying is that fashion is a good ideological litmus test for a given cultural period?

    I guess that's nice, but it seems that it follows ephemeral cultural/political trends without ever producing things which provide real reflections onto the human condition.
    >> Anonymous 09/02/11(Fri)19:09 No.2053014
    >>2053013

    it's true, fashion is always for a time but never for all time.

    i think this is why America loves it so much
    >> Anonymous 09/02/11(Fri)19:10 No.2053017
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    What you wear expresses something about you whether you intend it to be that way or not. You are engaging in a sort of dialogue with those around you without really saying much of anything verbally. If you dress like shit, that says alot about you. If you treat school/work/life like a fashion runway, that says alot of other things too.
    >> Anonymous 09/02/11(Fri)19:12 No.2053020
    >>2053017

    KINDA LIKE TATTOOS HUH TRUMAN
    >> Anonymous 09/02/11(Fri)19:13 No.2053024
    >>2053020

    Huh?
    >> Anonymous 09/02/11(Fri)19:14 No.2053027
    I can't stand when the critical Left mingles with the fashion world. I mostly share Truman's opinion in that it's disgustingly self-absorbed, hedonistic, and destructive. Also, it constantly pays lip-service to the "male gaze." I don't even care much for feminism, but it still sounds ridiculous when the most pornographic of fashion photography is called "beautiful", "empowering", "fighting systems of power" and shit like that. I don't know, I obviously have a problem with it on an emotional level, I'm not sure why though.
    >> Dr. Seussicide (SLAF) 09/02/11(Fri)19:17 No.2053034
    >>2053013
    Alone it will never produce any real reflections on the human condition, but coupled with contemporary literature, cinema and other media it all creates a wonderful image and allows for better negotiation of what a certain culture was like.

    ...I have no idea what I'm talking about, and it shows.
    >> Truman Capote !!cO9KVBDtkqQ 09/02/11(Fri)19:21 No.2053041
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    >>2053027

    what's wrong with us?

    why do we instinctively feel revulsion where others feel empowerment?

    >>2053034

    No, i understand what you're saying. I just don't think it should be called 'art' by its own right.



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