I got this from the public library today. It's the rewrite of the first Dark Tower book, I've only read the original.Is this completely butchered, or is it still faithful to the first version published?
It's better.
When I read it I barely noticed anything... It had been a few years, though.
>>205078How so?I heard a few things are changed to make events more inline with the later books.
No love for The Dark Tower tonight?
>>205083not>>205078but i've read both versions...i read the original the first time i was reading the series (having checked it out of the public library myself). I later bought my own copy (the new revised edition) and while i remember there being a few times when I thought something seemed different (although I don't know how often I was right about spotting a difference as I checked the ending, which i thought to be different, with a friends first edition ending. they were identical), it had little to no effect on the story. if anything it is better simply for those people capable of reading through all seven books and remembering that the first person Roland talks to in the books is named Brown and his bird was called Zoltan
Heh. I really didn't like The Gunslinger (i read the rewrite) I had no idea what was going on most of the time. I get that with a lot of books people really like :(
>>205202i think they said that the crazy christian woman's son was the son of "the beast" or something instead of the crimson king. and roland reading a magazine in the original, but king changed that once it was established that paper is very valuable
I think that the 19 thing was first established in the rewrite. Walter leaves a note telling that innkeeper that the secret to getting Nort to tell her everything about the afterlife was saying "19" to him, but that the truth would drive her insane. But he also wrote that he knew that she would say it eventually, then ended it with a smiley face, of course.
>>205244Nort was the mentally retarded guy from the flashback of the fourth book, right?He teleported them all away? Or was that Shemmie?I know that one of them ended up in that tavern, and I've always wanted to learn how.
>>205281shemmie was the retardneither of those ended up at the tavern, nort was a new character canonically. the piano player did, although i can't remember his name for the life of me.
>>205297I thought it was a fairly well known character that ended up there, but Roland didn't even acknowledge him.I wonder if they explain much more in the comics.
>>205281No, that's Sheemie. He doesn't show up at all in the Gunslinger. Nort is the devil-weed addict who dies of an overdose and then Walter brings him back to life just for kicks.
I've only heard one complaint. That complaint being:That he justify's killing Alice. In the original (i did not read) he supposedly just killed her renegade style "you are in my way you die" type thing.Did not bother me, but yeah.
>>205308right, the piano player from wizard and glass, sheb, shows up in the gunslinger tavern. i remember thinking roland gave him some kind of glance or something, but i could be making shit up
>>205325I'll be looking out for that, then.But how the fuck did he get all the way from that small ass town to midworld?
>>205316I don't think it was quite that simple. In the original, Roland was in full-on kill-mode, running on instinct. Alice just suddenly showed up and he went BLARGH BANGBANG! without even realizing what he did at the time.
I'm trying to find a wiki for the Dark Tower that actually has info in it, all of them just seem to have nothing more than the few main characters.
>>205428Well yeah. It was not my complaint. I just remember when i made the first DT thread on this board the first thing we talked about was the gunslinger and the remake. Some anon was pissed that the revised edition added a justification to killing her.
>>205372He's been walking for a LOOOOOOOONG time.he's over 1000, give or take some time-softening
>>205428Roland is a badass killing machine before he loses use of one of his hands.
>>205454Roland is that old too, isn't he?That sort of bothered me, how old everyone is. I forgot the reasoning for it.
>>205454i know your post is a bout the piano player but...I never fucking understood this. Where in the books does it imply or tell us Roland is that fucking old? A friend of mine (the one who got me to read the series) got on my ass because we were talking about what a DT miniseries would be like (at the time the JJ Abrams deal was still on) and the actor i suggested was apparently to young to play the part, and he was 50...
>>205478Shit, I forgot that was the entire reason for The Drawing of the Three.
>>205478>>205491Also, he was still badass. Obviously.
>>20548750's is how old Roland would appear. Maybe your friends misunderstood and Wants to revive William Hartnell for the role? Which I'm semi ashamed to admit i think would be bad ass.
>>205487if you look at the actual chronology of the book judging by how long roland says he's been traveling, he's about 45. and then there's that night with the man in black that lasts like 10 years. but that might turn out to be a trick, i can't remember.
>>205522Idk. I suggested Daniel Motherfuckin' Day-Lewis. It seems like he really wanted a guy who looked like he was 1000 years old. I did not get it.
>>205487Many times in the series, they allude to his age. Roland tells some story to the katet, and one of them will ask "Just how old are you?" or something along those lines.I got the impression that he appears as middle aged, but in actuality is much older due to the slipping of time.
>>205534Yeah but that would make him 55. The only think I can think of is time in a relative sense and that is to hard for me to explain via typing.
>>205550he started for the dark tower when he was like 16 or 18, and told eddie and susannah he'd been traveling for 25 years in book 3. or 4, maybe.
>>205522WHAT THE FUCK IS THAT BEHIND THE DOCTOR. NO, SERIOUSLY WHAT THE FUCK IS THAT!
>>205555i know it would make him 55, but it might have just been a trick. someone told me that's revealed later in the series, but i missed it.
>>205534was it only 10 years. I thought it was a 1000? checking.
>>205571>a 1000
>>205565I think they say he's been travelling around for 1000 years un Book 5, when he shows them his grow-bag.
>>205573lol leave me alone.
>>205556I'm pretty sure it was 3. He was all nostalgia'ed up over the sound of the thinny and Susan in 4 to talk about that.but yeah he was a teen in Wizard (flashback) about 14 or 15. A few years later after Jericho Hill he was about 18 as you said and had been chasing the man in black for about 25 years. that is 43 at the start of gunslinger. add another 10 after it and you got 53 for the start of the remainder of the series.
>>205580he was 14 when he fucked his first whore. 15 when he meet Susan i think.
>>205577>book 5THAT EXPLAINS EVERYTHING/ragealso i really will be pissed if that is where it came from...
>>205591>THAT EXPLAINS EVERYTHINGWhy?
>>205596he doesn't like book 5 much.
>>205603Is that Wolves of the Calla?
>>205596Books 5 and 6 have low spots in my heart for the series. I love the series at a whole. but most of 5 (nearly anything that did not involve Callahan in a jail cell punting invisible footballs) was meh. "Robot Dr.Doom wolves on mechanical horses with lightsabers and gernade snitches!"
>>205606yeah. i don't get the hate on it, i thought it was good. maybe not as good as the first four, but lord knows it was better than the 6th.
