>implying you need to read to learn any of those things
>implying you need to read THOSE books to learn those things

No.

>>1971367

I didn't imply either of those things... but hey cool contribution, thanks bro!

Two Years Before the Mast - Richard Henry Dana, Jr.

It's interesting to read about San Diego and San Francisco when there wasn't anything there. Also life on a wooden ship for months on end.

Bump for more manly books. Books that can help give a bit of incite into living a real man's life.

Monte Cristo and Marcus Aurelius are all a fledgling man needs.

just buy a fleshlight

>All Quiet on the Western Front

Read it in history. All I remember is trench warfare and shitting together in a line of unwalled restrooms.

>Of Mice and Men
Read it whenever. I was not sad when the fucking retard killed the bitch because she had pretty hair. Seriously, he was mentally ill. What a whore.

>The Catcher in the Rye
Too angsty for me at the zenith of my angsty phase. Seriously. If I wanted to hear myself think at 14 I would have just thought. The prose isn't exactly spectacular.

>>1973121

Grab a Teddy Roosevelt biography.

Why no Jack London yet?

>>1973156
Any specific one? I see the image of 'The Rise of Teddy Roosevelt' around the web alot, is it any good?

>>1973189

Yeah, I should have said. That's the one that was recommended to me, I liked it, and it seems to be very popular. Roosevelt was a great man.

>>1971361
E.H. Carr what is history?

>>1973198

Some I would recommend for the list:
David Copperfield by Charles Dickens
Either/Or by Soren Kierkegaard
Confessions by Saint Augustine
The Way of All Flesh by Samuel Butler

>>1971361
I'd recommend reading Storm of Steel and Under Fire as well as All Quiet on the Western Front.

>>1971361
>implying big sur isn't the supreme kerouac novel.
>boring, trenches, shitting next to each other
>Nope.
>I hated Lenny actually, I was more said when that fucker's dog died. Forget his name.
>I was supposed to read this for school, thank god I sparknotes'd it.

>>1971361

None of those books are manly. You are so fucking beta you don't even realize that.

>>1973359
Storm of Steel is definitely manly, it was written by a guy who enjoyed being a front line soldier the first world war.

Personally I'm reading this:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Harvard_Classics
And writing a few notes to remember. It's really good stuff.
Well I've only read one volume and a half for now, but I can't wait for Marcus Aurelius, Virgil, Dante, ect... Whom I've heard a lot about.
Also, this is all free in ebook format; see bottom of page, the link about MobileRead.

SHANE
WHITE FANG
AS A MAN THINKETH

I reeally hope this thread is around in the morning with some new suggestions. I love threads like these.

Ya know what? I'm going to request this thread for archival. You should to!

http://chanarchive[DOT]org/request_votes

Now captcha related!

no LOTR?

I am no fantasy fag, but there is nothing manlyer than some cripples putting their lives on the line to save a world they barely know...

Pride and Prejudice by Jane Austin

The Portrait of Dorian Grey by Oscar Wilde

>ctrl+f
>no "Iliad"

Should be required, made me feel manly as hell when I read it. Hektor, Odysseus, an a couple of others are great examples of strong, noble manliness.

>>1973411
There is nothing manly about Lord of the Rings. The Hobbit however has a lot more manly messages in it.

>>1973412

i haven't read P&P ever myself, but i've always been under the impression that it was a woman's read. am i wrong?

>>1973414
I finished my second reading of the Odyssey yesterday. Glorious.
I've yet to read the Iliad though.
But I know what you mean about the characters. They are virtuous.
Also I think in rhymes now.

>ctrl+f
>expectations
>zero results

fuck you guys Dickens' Great Expectations is a masterwork of the problem of man and society.

>On The Road
That was simply drugs drugs drugs. Narrator had some poetic perspectives in part one, but after that it was obvious the drugs were having a toll on his brain.

>>1973351
I have never read any of those books, but I'm familiar with Kierkegaard and Dickens, so I feel you got a strong list here.

>>1973468
Well /lit/ only likes books about drugs, rape, incest, and all that cool, dark and edgy shit.

>>1973417

please explain

bump for more :D

Portrait of The Artist as a Young Man

Also, anyone who recommends anything by the Beats is a goddamn faggot.

has this been archived yet?

>implying all You do for a living is working wherever and buy drugs for your money, fuck bitches and fail life
>implying on the road

The Grapes of Wrath

Anyone who cares about what it is to be a man should be reading the Art of Manliness Blog. its pretty awesome, and i think a lot of people on 4chan could benefit from it. i've been reading it for over a year, and im a great fan of articles called "Manovationals", which you can guess the contents of. they also have book lists about being a man. given all the Alpha talk on the other boards i visit, few people know shit about what it actually is.

> No Aurelius
> No Schopenhauer
> No Plato

>>1974404
You sir have fantastic taste

I recommend the Art of War a classic.

Plutarch's Lives.

There is a list of books in Dumas' Count of Monte Cristo that he says everyone should read. I can't remember almost any of them, but I remember it was a good list.

The Art of War- Sun Tzu
The Book of Five Rings- Miyamoto Musahsi
a collection of religious texts (The Bible, The Quran)
Ancient Philosophy (Marcus Aurelius, Seneca, Plato, Aristotle, Epictetus, etc etc).
Modernish Philosophy (Camus' The Fall, Kafka's The Metamorphosis, works by Nietzsche)

>>1975693
I wish to add Kant and Kierkegaard to this as well.

>>1974177
This so much, but it's 2deep4 most teenagers and they don't really get it.

The Stoics will make you manly pretty fast. Epictetus is great.

I would put Tales of Grabowski (John Auerbach) on the list. Certainly not at the very top, but on the list nonetheless.

>>1973131
I second Marcus Aurelius. Reading his "Meditations" profoundly changed my outlook on life and made continuing university much more bearable.

> ctrl f
>no A Boy's Life

read A Boy's Life bro. Childhood and growing up with facing reality while maintaining some amount of the boyish adventurous spirit.

>>1975753
I agree with this post, it captures the essence of what it is to be a boy, the precursor to being a man

>>1973131
Nice stuff

I agree with every single book posted in this thread thus far. Every book I wanted to suggest has already been suggested then some

>>1973417
>nothing manly about lord of the rings

>>1975693
Except for the religious texts...beautiful list (although I haven't read any of the modern philosophy you listed.

>>1975832
not the guy you are replying to but I think the religious texts are important regardless of your belief. The Bible is the basis for an enourmous amount literature and the books combined make up the basis of the majority of the population's culture in the U.S. and Europe AND the Middle East. I think it would be beneficial to have some background knowledge and be generally more cultured with something so relevant.

Stranger
Notes From Underground
Journey to the end of the night

OP is not a fag

Although I wouldn't exactly call Catcher in the Rye a coming of age book.

Personally I'd put The Chocolate War on the list because there's not much in the books that you mentioned about morality and how it ought to take priority over societal obligations

>>1975832

Not the one that posted the list, but you're doing yourself a disservice if you're not familiar with the major religious texts. This isn't to say you should read them to discover a religious affinity, but so that you can understand what has been some of the primary influences in world culture, art and thinking.

Coming from /b/ to /lit/ is like stepping into another universe (even though I lurk on both, as a lot of you do, I'm guessing). You can tell the difference of the people. You guys are cool.

>>1971361
i suggest some Orwell with animal farm and 1984

also the 5 people you meet in heaven was the top 5 best books i ever read

>>1975908
....I left /b/ about 3 years ago and never looked back. I do visit /v/ among other boards though, which as of late has become a sort of /b/ 2.0 unfortunately.

Also to OP, I suggest some essays by Ralph Waldo Emerson

>>1975907
>but so that you can understand what has been some of the primary influences in world culture, art and thinking.
I study history for this. In this case the history of how the major religions and their texts have influenced different societies.

>>1975950
I am neither the guy you originally responded to nor the guy who responded to you, but I would point out history classes are hardly sufficient to familiarize yourself with the culture contained in them see >>1975867 not to mention The Bible contains severla books that are masterful peices of literature, ie. Lamentations, Job etc.

>>1975950

Doesn't history stress the importance of primary sources? Get on it, son.

>>1975987
Oh I didn't mean 'study history' as in taking classes of any kind, I meant study as in individual study+reading.

>>1975867
Just saw your post now, but I guess what I said here >>1975950 addresses what you posted.

>>1976029
To understand the influence that the religious texts have had doesn't require reading their every single page.

>>1976054
Yeah, if you don't plan on being a scholar.

>>1976029
The text of a fairy tale is a primary source on its contents, but not any kind of source on its historical significance.

>>1976072

You're taking a leap of logic there. Of course fairy tales might not contain the historical importance of a religious text, but when did I say otherwise?i You're implying there, and I would appreciate you wouldn't.

>>1976093
>hurr durr

>>1976097

wat

>>1976106
>>1976097
Jesus, I fucking lol'd

>>1976122
wat

>>1971361
Just realized what the painting is. Diogenes telling Alexander the Great to go fuck himself and quit blocking the sunlight. Philosophers used to be so badass.....

Hitchhikers Guide to the Galaxy.

Nothing ever turns out the way you want it to, and the only way to survive to adapt quickly and keep those you love close and always bring a towel.

>>1976444
Yeah. Too bad Douglas Adams wrote like a child.

The Iliad - Martin Hammond translation.
The Aeneid - David West translation.
Down and Out in Paris and London.
Lord of the Flies.
Of Mice and Men.

Those are good basics.

>>1975814
>>1973481

Not the guy who posted that, but I agree with what he said about Lord of the Rings. The only manly character in the whole book is Samwise Gamgee. The rest are the kind of characters of boyish fantasy striving to look manly, forgetting what it really means to be a man. Characters who just fight, strive for power and demonstrate feats of strength - men may do these but they are not manly nor do they make you a man. (And then there's the betas) But honestly the only character showing any manly virtue is Sam.

Alexandre Dumas' famous works in relation to getting women.

>>1976467
this guy

How about books for women you sexist cunt

>>1976551
>ITT: Books every young man should read, to truly become a man.

What part of that didn't you get?

>>1976553
Books for transsexuals, of course

>>1976551
Make another thread for it, clearly there are things in OPs post you did not understand. Perhaps though before you look at books women should read you should look at books children should read, clearly your reading comprehension is shit-tier. Read some Suess and Dahl and build up them reading skills baby.

op is sexist

>>1974404
I really can't take you seriously or anyone else in this thread.

goddamn, middle class white men in their 20s.

ITT: hurr durr retarded romanticized view of being a man hurr durr it's the year 1955 billy you better man up hurr durr sexists

so basically women are just dumb sex objects and men are glorious super beings.

amirite gaiz?

>implying any of you are manly
>implying you aren't a bunch of fucking losers

>>1976671
>>1976673
>>1976677
>>1976680
Samefag femanon jellyness that the only books young women should read to truly become a woman are cook books.

OP Catcher In The Rye, WTF Holden is a bitch.

High Fidelity- Angst and unhappiness does not end with adolescence.

The Big Sleep- Want to be an alpha male? Just be Marlowe

Trainspotting- The only way to "win" is to be the biggest bastard of the bunch

Orwell's Non-fiction Trilogy- To learn the true value of wealth and success you need to see suffering in its different forms.

Any Holmes book- Another one on friendship, as well as all the genius writing involved in the story.

1984- You can't beat the system. No matter how hard you try.

>To Kill a Mockingbird

Atticus Finch is what a real man should be, so this what young men should be reading.

Reading a book and mimicking it won't make you manly, just some twat.

Thus Spoke Zarathustra
The Ego and His Own
Self-Reliance
Unabomber Manifesto
Stranger

Hemingway

I fucking hate people who apply noble connotations to the word "man". Being a men means having a different body (including brain--but men's and women's brains simply work differently to do the same things.) There are no differences between women and men beyond biological ones; therefore, this thread is pointless as no book will make your balls drop.

By the way, I have a dick.

>>1976823

>>1976823

Men built civilizations, we are dragging the bitches along.

>>1976823
>There are no differences between women and men beyond biological ones

The tragedy is that you don't see how ridiculous that statement is.

>>1976830
You didn't build a civilization. you post on 4chan.

>>1976830

Men established a strain of civilisations, in which women were continually suppressed, so women stopped dissenting--for the most part--and made the most of a bad deal. To suggest that--for the most part--women want to be supported by men because they are is like reasoning that a somebody who's been kidnapped wanted to be because they haven't tried to escape, when they'd be beaten or killed if they did try.

>>1976831

Excuse me. I should have said, "There are no inherent differences between women and men beyond biological ones."

>>1976831
Maybe he meant that both try to fit into the roles assigned to them. A man who tries to be manly is no different from a woman who spends her time in beauty salongs? uhh, maybe?

>>1976847

Yeah. It's the tabula rasa: we're born as blank slates, except for our bodies. We are quickly divided into groups by sex, which makes it easy to identify with those of our sex, including adults; and begin to emulate them to be accepted. It's a vicious circle which was established with civilisation.

>On The Road, Jack Kerouac
My friend is totally cool, the book.
I found it funny that he completely and utterly failed to make Dean sound cool or hip in any way.

>>1976840

We gave women equal rights and look where we are at now. They are still dragging behind men. Even positive discrimination can't fix this.

All women do is stir the market, increase demand for shit like Harry Potter. What is worse is their disease has spread to the men who are now as dull and hollow as a woman.

>>1976823
>There are no differences between women and men beyond biological ones

Well, fucking DERP. All the differences that CAN exist between men and women would be biological.

>>1976521
>>1976521
Like which ones?

Bumping because I don't want to see a jewel of a thread like this one go to the wayside in favor of shitty 'A Song of Ice and Fire' threads

Hamlet

The Odyssey

>>1976864
>>1976830
>>1976831
>>1976823

What the fuck. As a frequent poster and browser of /lit/ I feel that I am entitled to better trolls. This is just outright insulting.

Just curious who are the two people in OP's picture. I have a feeling I know who the old man is on the floor. Isn't he a figure in philosophy that walks around Greek towns in the day time with a lit lantern looking for a truthful man? Don't know his name though, any know OP's pic?

>>1977642

Diogenes and Alejandro Magno. Read the pic description maybe?

>>1976823

>There are no differences between women and men beyond biological ones

I'm sure this kind of statement fits neatly into your politically-correct worldview. Same kind of dogmatism that's been holding humans back for most of history.

>>1977688
Aren't women usually smarter though?

>>1977681
Lol didn't notice that, thanks though. I guess I was right nice, my memory isn't crap after all :D

>>1977715
this

Naked Lunch - to embrace your latent homosexuality

A Hero of Our Time by Mikhail Lermontov

The first Dark Tower books. No shit, it was those books that made me interested in growing up. When I read how adult and mature Roland was I was inspired.

>>1978036
Ew, fuck your shit. Pechorin's just somefucking Byronic hero like 50,000x others. What makes him or the book special? Apart from being set in the Cockasus.

The Brothers Karamazov.

The world might not be fair or even work correctly but that's no excuse for not being able to conquer it. Oh and you're going to suffer: deal with it like a man.

Can I be a man if I can't grow a beard or even a decent moustache?

>>1978056
Nope.

The Adventures of Huckleberry Finn by Mark Twain
Prometheus Unbound by Percy Shelley

>>1976717
That is not what the reader is supposed to take away from 1984.

I have something very thoughtful, very eloquent, very wonderful to say about the difference between women and men. It has been understood after years of study and experience, through thoughtful discussion with some of the leading experts on gender studies. In short it is the best understanding of men and women that would ever reach this image board.

But...this is not the right thread for that.

>>1978046

I will quote Albert Camus "Some were dreadfully insulted, and quite seriously, to have held up as a model such an immoral character as A Hero of Our Time; others shrewdly noticed that the author had portrayed himself and his acquaintances…A Hero of Our Time, gentlemen, is in fact a portrait, but not of an individual; it is the aggregate of the vices of our whole generation in their fullest expression."

I found it beautiful, interesting and something that is worth reading. Well yes he is a byronic hero and so what? I liked it and I recommend it.

The comic book Hellblazer. John Constantine is the manliest modern character.

I like to think of myself as a mixture of the Continental Op, The Dice Man and Cuchulain, with a side-order of Erdnose and DiGriz, just for flash and suave.

Then again, I'm nothing even close, but it's an ideal.

>>1978096
I used that quote from the preface in an essay yesterday. I'm acquainted with the idea of The Superfluous Man, but it just seems like a primitivized version of what western european literature had been writing about for hundreds of years.

Just saying, Russian lit is sort of whacked because Russia has always been whacked and backwards in comparison to the countries it has attempted to emulate (France, British Empire, Germany, United States, etc.). That's what makes Russian lit so good for pain and suffering, but shitty for pretty much everything else.

>>1978046
YOU SHUT THE FUCK UP!

>>1978134

Yes you are maybe right the most distinguishing in the russian literature is the pain and suffering-psychological depth of man (and maybe all its good at?) but there are some russian writers who really succeeded and reached to and above the western writers depth, and those glimps are really something special.

Sorry for my english.

5. Essays: First Series by Ralph Waldo Emerson

4. The Undiscovered Self by Carl Jung

3. A Portrait of the Artist as a Young Man by James Joyce

2. The Death of Ivan Ilyich by Leo Tolstoy

1. The Science of Logic by G.W.F. Hegel

These are the books that will give you the tools to make it through this life.

>>1978200
Stop the madness, I love that fucking book by Jung.

I would definitely add Nausea, by Jean Paul Sartre

>>1976680
>>1976677
>>1976673
>>1976671
>>1976669
>>1976551
go back to reddit

I just got Iron John a few days ago and am only a few pages in. It's a little campy/feely for my taste but I've heard good things about it.

Hello?

King, Warrior, Magician, Lover

>>1980534
haha cool

Can we get this thread stickied? No doubt that this thread will be beneficial for many guys who come here.

The Magus
If you're going to read it, and you should, it's best to do so in your early twenties.

>>1980572
haha oh wow

you people are deep down inside are a bunch of losers.

enjoy your false self-confidence and retarded romanticized view of being a man in the year 2011

>>1980793
So what do you think you are?

>>1973411
if you want a fantasy must read book that shows you what it is to be a man etc. etc.

The Way of Kings by Brandon Sanderson

first in what I feel like will be one awesome fucking 10 books

This is a beautiful book that any well rounded man would benefit from reading. It doesn't read like a piece of religious doctrine but more like practical real-world wisdom. It speaks a lot about letting go of many ill habits that we become accustomed to in our modern day to day lives.

>>1980967

Like what? Give me some examples of habits we should ditch.

>>1971361
>you people are deep down inside are a bunch of losers.

> enjoy your false self-confidence and retarded romanticized view of being a man in the year 2011

> retarded romanticized view of being a man

you are really deep inside gender studies and know the truth don't you?

>>1978200
>>1978207
Isn't The Undiscovered Self an essay, not a book? You don't mean The Red Book? I want to read some Jung but I'm not sure which

>>1981098
Nevermind, I guess it's a short book.

>crtl+f
> no tucker max
> no I hope they serve beer in hell.

How can you have a manly thread without that?

>>1981141
No.

In this thread, we are posting manly books. Not poorly written fictions dreamed up by a chimp with clods of shit for brains.

>>1981155
I second what he said.

>>1981155

>Jealous that he isn't good looking enough to lead a life like Tucker.

>>1981207
Go away

>>1981141
Because being a man isn't about being a retarded ape?

if you are going for that kind of manliness, at least go with Maddox, who is 100 times funnier. Also, Maddox at least has a tongue and cheek quality about his retarded shit, but Tucker actually thinks he is fucking hilarious, which is sad.

>>1981207
If this is what passes for good looking, I'm a freaking adonis.

My kindle bill is going to fucking silly after reading this thread

>inb4 ereader neckbeard rage

>>1981481
>not just downloading the books for free
dumb

>>1981481
dude just google for .epub files and convert them to .mobi

>>1981517
>just google epubs and convert to mobi

there is a step here you can just skip

>>1981523
I don't have a Kindle so I could be mistaken, but aren't .mobi files generally harder to find? Obviously that could be skipped when possible, but I think more .epub's can be found..

>>1981523
Indeed.
Examples:

http://www.demonoid.me/files/details/2661222/01546993158/

http://www.demonoid.me/files/details/2683385/03867482895/

>>1981529
idk, I have no trouble finding mobi files, with the increased popularity of the kindle mobi files are pretty easy to find now

>>1981530
>8,000 mobi
>10,000 mobi
>15,000 various also on demonoid
>can't find there, get on irc

>> become a man by reading books

>>1981565
Just because you were born male doesn't mean you are a man. You are a man because you LEARN.

>>1981207
Who would want to live that life? Even Tucker seems unsatisfied these days.

Moby Dick, Riders of the Purple Sage, Last of the Mohegans ,probably some Rudyard Kipling that I can't think of right now, the Naked and the Dead ect

Book of dun cow for young teenage men

Blood motherfucking Meridian.

The universe does not give a shit about you and you need to realize this ASAP.

>>1973150

>i am an amazing retard

>>1984509
What? You wouldn't find a life that includes smelling the undigested shells of corns that are pouring themselves out of a female anus to be fulfilling?

Adolf Hitler - Mein Kampf

Agreed with Marcus Aurelius.

Start with Kipling's If is short and to the point

The Book of Proverbs and maybe Job


The Old man and the Sea

Gilgamesh

Anna Karenina

Beyond reading, every man should learn at least a little of a craft, metal working, wood working etc.

>>1985044
>The Old man and the Sea
This. I don't even like the book that much, but it's definitely manly and it has a nice message.