Shit, I'd forgotten about this. Going to stay off /lit/ till I've read it.

>>1890559
coming in 2 weeks, why do you ask?

Looks like the /lit/urgist who has a book isn't going to scan, so no luck.

Joanna + Rhaegar = Tyrion
Tyrion and Jon are half-brothers

>>1890638
if anything it's implied that Joanna + Aerys = Tyrion

Someone just tell me what Brienne screamed at the end of AFFC, please.

>>1890649
Don't know, but shes alive and has Jaime following her... alone


:(

>>1890650
>>1890649

I hope Brienne alive means that Pod is alive too

I've heard conflicting things about the spoilers.

The original dude who posted on /tv/ says one thing while the person posting spoilers on the Tower of the Hand is saying different things.

>>1890659
Pod is my favorite child in the books, other than Arya.

>>1890664
GRRM already said that a lot of the spoilers are just wrong.

>>1890674
This is good news

>>1890664
They aren't really conflicting, just misinterpreted. The guy who posted them here and on westeros.org just skimmed the last few chapters and posted what he knew from there.

Bah.

The only reason I keep coming to this spoiler filled stink hole is due to the potential for a link to a e-scanned copy of the book.

I know I'm probably the only one who cares or even remembers him but

WEX IS ALIVE FUCK YEAH

>>1890684
Same here. I figure that as soon as someone uploads a scan, 4chan will know. Hopefully.

Do they have "The Bear and the Maiden Fair" in Essos?

A.Dance.With.Dragons.Mobi-SKIDROW

It has come.

>>1890696
anyone who scans it is going to draw heat because there's literally only 180 of them and it's very easy to trace where they were delivered. i think it's very unlikely that anyone who got one of them has scene ties, cares about e-cred, or is capable of getting it online without leaving a trail. i honestly wouldn't be surprised to not see it get scanned at all until there's a 2nd leak like an employee at a brick & mortar breaking street date

>>1890728
There are a lot more than 180 now, people on westeros.org were confirming that its being sold in some German bookstores and Amazon Japan is also shipping some

!Frina_Martin_George_R_R_A_Song_of_Ice_and_Fire_[05]_A_Dance_With_Dragons.rar_[jpg]

I'm going to create several accounts on westeros.org and spam spoilers.

>>1890737
Better doing that on the GoT subreddit

I don't think so.

There have been copies sold in Japan - and apparently all across Germany.

No way it is just 180.
And no way it will be traced to them - unless they display a stunning amount of idiocy in how they release it.

>>1890641
No, no. Joanna+ Aerys = Jaime+Cersei.

Think about it.

Eh, so Tyrion is Rhaegar's bastard child?

And to the people who read it, where would you rank it amongst the series?

>>1890737
I bet that'll get you mad pussy, yo.

>>1890817

The timeline is wrong for any of Joanna's children being secretly conceived by Aerys. Tyrion is well into his twenties, so if Tywin quitting as hand can't be at all related. Unless we postulate that Tywin knew and didn't do anything, and it's just one of his secrets like whoring and possible knowledge Jaime & Cersei's relationship.

All the chapter comments by Stefan
pastebin/fP52vcZd

>>1890722
>>1890733
are these guys trolling or what? anybody got links?

google yields nothing

>>1890953
They be trollin. Think I found something tho, in the process of downloading and verifying.

>>1890962
>>1890953
Well it's here but password protected and the readme.txt directs to a website where you have to d/l some sharecash shit. I think it's bullshit, deleting file.

http://www.4shared.com/get/Gh8icpQM/A_Dance_with_Dragons_-_George_.html

I use Google and search by latest or last 24 hours. Damn u fat bastard!

no dice on da demonoids yet.

here be spoilers, courtesy of
http://forums.televisionwithoutpity.com/index.php?showtopic=3206012&st=375


Deaths:

Meera/Joren Reed
Kevan Lannister
Maester Pycelle

Possible Deaths:

Stannis
Jon Snow

???

New reveals:

Tyrion is a targ
Targaryen prince still alive
Arya got her sight back
Davos is alive saved by Rickon and Shaggy
Sansa is becoming a awesome power player
Jon is getting more involved in the politics
Melisandre has intentions for Jon SNow

>>1890994
Tyrion is not explicitly revealed as a Targ, it's barely even hinted at if at all

>>1890994
Meera and Jojen also aren't dead from what I've seen

Wait, who is Joanna? I did a speed read through the four books and am now going back to do a slow read.

>>1890972

Trolls. I have no doubt a scan will be available before the release date, but this stuff out now crap.

When a legit scan is out, you'll know. And it's not going to have a password that you need to take a quiz for.

>>1891015
Joanna Lannister, Tywin's dead wife (and cousin)

Apparently Aerys had a boner for her

>>1891027
Thank you.

Could I be v& for posting spoilers on this on other sites?

is the shaggy who saves davos the one who did "boombastic"

>>1891117
I'm actually curious about this as well. Could they sue for posting spoilers or something?

>>1891123

Nope. There's a reason they had to beg people not to reveal spoilers instead of threatening legal action.

I bet GRRM lurks here and posts fake spoilers. Hey George u fatso get yo lazy lard ass back to writing the 6th book and finishing aSoIaF. You ain't got no bragging rights against J K Rowling until then.

>>1891130
You sure? I'm just a little paranoid because the site owner of westeros.org PM'd me saying I was an idiot for posting spoilers.

It just made me worried.

There is no way you get sued for posting spoilers. I'm an attorney at that is among the dumbest shit I have ever heard.

Where would you rank it amongst the series?

>>1891148

Yes, I'm sure.

Did you sign anything saying you wouldn't reveal information? Is this a national security matter?

Then no, you're fine.

>>1891148
The site owner of westeros.org also used to troll around livejournal telling teenage girls to stop writing fanfiction. He takes his position as fan club president a little too seriously. Don't worry, you're not going to get sued.

Yeah. Ran is a bit of an ass.

When you take something too seriously you often make it much less fun.

Ran told you he will sue you. tell him goodluck

A certain number of the denizens of westeros seem so humorless sometimes.

Which is weird, since ASOIAF is often very funny.

It is also a bit strange how they have created their social groups.
It seems like there is a disproportionate amount of people there who were picked on or excluded in their formative public school years - so now they feel the need to create their own exclusive social cliques.

Kinda like the people who hang out in artsy cafes that have regular poetry readings.
It has the potential to be be pretty cool - but the people who participate invariably make it suck.

Anyone got the link to the website where the guy was posting chapter summaries? The one that had them all listed on one page, instead of separately.

>>1892436

see >>1890850

>>1892448
Thanks. I thought it was posted in the first thread yesterday. My bad!

>>1891365
A lot of people posting on westeros.org have sticks the girth of baobabs up their asses and their lips firmly placed on Martin's cock.

>>1892474

Well, after they find out Martin has killed off their favorite characters and left so many unresolved plot lines for the next book which may come in 10 years , they might actually cry themselves to sleep while martin fucks their asses some more.

>every Frey in ADWD: HURR IT WASN'T OUT FAULT! THEY SHAMED OUR HONOR SO WE HAD TO DO IT! DURR

>>1892495
Agreed. I opted to read the spoilers because I felt like the give and take of the series was too lopsided. He asks you to take so much and gives little. He's leaving everything for the end, and it will just be a clusterfuck.

>>1891264
>The site owner of westeros.org also used to troll around livejournal telling teenage girls to stop writing fanfiction.
A noble endeavor, and a great service to the public.

Gonna be a long decade. At this point I'm not sure if I should even care of Jon Snow is truly dead or not. GRRM is a bastard.

>>1892514

Assuming he strays true to his word he has two books left to get all the Others and Invasion of Westeros plot threads going and resolved.
You better believe it's going to be a fucking mess.

>>1892540
It's going to happen at the same time; Dany's dragons will cut through the Others at a critical moment and she will be recognized as Azor Ahai. Melisandre will kill Stannis and defect to her.

Stefan posted a more detailed, spoilery review here: http://oeffingerfreidenker.blogspot.com/2011/07/buchbesprechung-george-r-r-martin-dance.html

Good stuff in there.

>>1892506

So the Freys are Wsterors' Muslims?

>>1892724
From this review is sounds better than the individual chapter synopsis.

The stuff in the north sounds interesting. The cruelty of the Boltons, and having a Stark leading and making big moves seems to be satisfying.

Whereas, as always, Dany chapters suck nuts. We have had 5 books of her just dicking around, and waiting for her to invade. And all we get is to find out that our ohh so special dragon is not so special, and her kin appears and does what she was expected to do this whole time.

are the scans available yet? I downloaded from the link that needs password

>>1893577
I wish

the fuck are the scans, fuck

password for the locked pdf is

En+joy&r5@din*g.bo7k

enjoy

>>1894244
wait what?

It's a feast for Crows. Not Dance.

False advertising.

>>1894244
Thank you very much!!

>>1890972

so is this the book in op or the one that another anon said it was? i've never read any of his shit........

The reeds are alive but estranged from Bran who is using Hodor as a tool.

Davos is not saved BY Rickon but saved for the sake of Rickon.

>>1894721
Yea that looks like it is true!

>>1894714
Don't wanna check. Who knows what surprises the zipfile contains...

aghhhhhh where is it!?

YES JON SNOW DIES THANK GOD THANK YOU MARTIN.

So apparently there is a quote in a Melisandre chapter in which thinks "I pray for a glimpse of Azor Ahai, and R'hllor shows me only Snow."

That pretty much seals it for me, Jon's story isn't over and it will be because of Melisandre.

>>1895092
The Azor Ahai legend also has a bunch of references to rebirth, so...

>>1895092
>>1895097
I'd add that the guy who claimed Martin said AA and TPTWP are the same thing came out and apologized recently on westeros.org and said he made it up.

>>1895090
>scrolling down the page
>see this
>going to hunt you down and violently murder you

>>1895109
The last line of Jon's last chapter is "he didn't even feel the fourth dagger, only the cold"

So he might not even be dead. And if he is, Melisandre is at Castle Black still. Her chapter (as well as the Jon chapters) makes it apparent that she's very interested in Jon and probably knows what is going to happen.

>>1894775
fake, it's A Feast for Crows

>>1895092
I'm thinking she knew it would happen and let him die to release him from his vows, and will then bring him back and jump off the Stannis bandwagon and onto the Jon bandwagon.

>>1895130
I hope she makes a better job of it than Thoros did with Dondarrion. I don't think I can stomach another uptight zombie asshole out for revenge ('sup, Catelyn?)

>>1895221
Yeah I think if Jon is AA he won't be a zombie, we have enough zombies running around as it is...

>>1895331
Then the fucker better be Azor Ahai reborn.

>>1895334

I am going to spoil the whole series for you, peek only if you dare, and remember you heard it from me first:

Bran is the Great Other. Jon is Azor Ahai. All seven hells break loose when the two of them duke it out.

>>1895357
>Great Other.

there was something like this in the book?

There is mention of a Great Other, I'm pretty sure Melisandre mentions it at some point(s)

Bran will become the great Other and Jon is "The Prince That Was Promised". The two will battle and everything goes to shit. Bran ends up winning and the entire world is a post-apocalyptic ice covered wasteland(which makes house Starks "Winter is Coming more prophetic). Bran will somehow be immortal in the end.

>>1895376
I like it

>>1890531

Bran can just ressurect him like Benjen.
And Benjen doesn't seem to be a big fuck up to me...

>>1895376

Wat... the Wights or the Others don't belong to the Greenseer... they even try to kill them once they were approaching. If they were servants of the Greenseer they would let them pass because Bran is the successor of the Greenseer... so wtf.

>>1895357

Wait, so Bran will turn evil. What have you done now George?

Coldhands will die and he will be revealed to be that NW member who proclaimed himself king years ago and will also be revealed to be the great Other's emissary to escort Bran to the Three Eyed Crow. He'll die close to the series end and Stannis will be his replacement and Other-Bran's emissary.

>>1895385


Don't believe that bollocks. We have no proof and not even a single line suggesting that the Greenseer is in any way affiliated with the Others (in form of the mystic creatures) nor the Wights with the glowing eyes they create.

His Wight has no blue glowing eyes and he still is sentient while the Others' Wights are only driven by instinct.

>>1895385

Also the cave of the Greenseer and the Children were specifically warded just like the Wall so the Wights and Others couldn't pass. Why should they do such things if they were their servants...
Also they are closely affiliated with living things like trees and animals. Not Undead stuff...

The magic seems to be similiar to the one of the wall so we can guess if Bran the builder had help from giants errecting it and Storm's End the children and or the Greenseer will have helped warding the wall.

>>1895357

It's really a shame that Bran only had 3 chapters in ADWD. I really wanted to know more about the 3-eyed Crow and Children of the Forest

>>1895389
>>1895398

Ah thanks. I was kind of rooting for him and would be pissed if Martin went and did a 180 on him.

>>1895417

Everything interesting was reduced to 50 pages.

Mr Theon had like 200. Seriously who cared about those shitty written totally linear written boring chapters about that EVIL PSYCHOPATH UHU BAHA WOOOOOOO.

We got like 600 pages about Daenerys and her AWESOME LITTLE BUT SMOOTH AND FIRM tits. While doing nothing.

Stannis and his battle got like 100 pages of nothing happening and we got another cliffhanger.

Davos had like 1 Page (it felt like it) and nothing happened. Cliffhanger.

Cersei had 3 HORRIBLY WRITTEN chapters. Which were alos horribly boring.

There is too much to go on...

Bran only has three chapters?

I actually liked Theon's chapters in ACOK that's what made that book my favourite in the series. Hopefully his chapters are as awesome in Dance.

so the book's been somewhat available for what, 5 days now? where's the friggin scan already? i didn't think it would take THIS long...

>>1895426
>Everything interesting was reduced to 50 pages.
>Davos had like 1 Page (it felt like it) and nothing happened. Cliffhanger.

I really have to agree with this. Especially Davos last chapter made me hungry for more but no....

Anyone else pre-ordered it yesterday?

And people who've read the book. Where would you place it amongst the series? I think I asked this yesterday, but never received an answer.

>>1895435

except Jon. He actually had many chapters and they were ok

>>1895420
I love Bran and I'm rooting for him too, but I think that would be an awesome twist for him to turn evil, though I kind of doubt that happens

Somebody on towerofthehand posted something that puts what happens to Jon in a little better context, apparently he gets stabbed but Tormund and other allies of his are pouring out of the great hall nearbye at the same time, so he's not exactly alone...

Apparently Jon had openly declared that he's going to march on Winterfell and kill Ramsey Bolton and Bowan Marsh looks at it as desertion. The wildlings are on Jon's side as are *at least* some of the nights watch brothers.

>>1895448
Also it's unknown where Melisandre is during this whole event, she leaves the great hall before Jon does.

>>1895448

They had a meeting in the great hall in which Jon held a speech about
1. rescuing some wildlings from behind the wall
2. rallying his banner and moving with a Brotherhood/Wildling army against Bolton in Winterfell. He is something like Rayders' successor and most of the Wildlings see him as their leader now.

After they came out they witnessed how one Giant had ripped apart a Queen's Knight who obviously tried to kill him for fame (many of the queens guys are glory hoggers) but got killed by him.
Jon wants to resolve the situation and calm the giant down so there is no more bloodshed (giants are like kickass and he would take many down with him).
So while he commanded all to stay back and shed their weapons he wanted to approach the giant when his steward tried to cut his throat and probably the blade was poisoned because he was feeling slow and cold afterwards as 3 more Brotherhood guys (Melissandre warned him about the blades of people who smiled at him prior) stabbed him with daggers as he was passing out.

So it is reasonable to believe that the Wildlings and his loyal Brotherhood man would step in and kill the ursupers. Maybe even Melissandre comes and helps him (he feels cold and she is fire at least). He also has a kickass skinchanger with a horse sized boar next to him and about a few hundred armed Wildlings who are loyal to him.

>>1895448

Also moving against Bolton was no desertation or breaking the vows because Bolton directly threatened him that he would kill Jon.
So responding to that is not taking part in the business of the realm but defending the Bortherhood.

>>1895537

everyone knows that it's just an excuse to save his sister

if Bolton would have came to the wall and tried to kill Jon it's another matter of course

>>1895516
Guy who posted the details on towerofthehand made it sound like the Knight was the guy who the Queen wanted to marry to Val, and the Giant killed him because he was trying to sneak up to Val

scans! Where are the futhermocking scans!

>>1895581

So the letter was a fake?

Bolton says he will kill Jon -> direct threat against the lord of the Brotherhood.
If he can rescue his sister the better for him. But still it was a direct threat.

>>1895596

That is also possible because the Giant was housed in the lower levels of the tower in which Val was housed.
Probably the Knight wanted to rape or abduct her.

>>1895602

Yeah it was a threat. I don't think it was a fake but should Jon have abandoned the Wall for it? I don't think so.

>>1895616

I for one want Jon to leave the wall and slaughter the Boltons

>>1895617

me too very much

just saying that some members of the Brotherhood probably think that this has nothing to do with their duty

and I think they are right

>>1895616

So what? Bolton directly declares war by threatening the lord.
And he should not abandon the wall? I guess its his choice as the lord commander how he handles his business and when he is at the wall with how many people.
And even if he leaves the wall with an army he will leave behind more armed men to guard the wall than the numbers he had when he was elected.

>>1895627
He asks for volunteers though doesn't he? He doesn't order them to go with him.

Somebody refresh my memory, that scene in the television show where Aemon asks Jon what Eddard would chose between honor and love where Jon answers "whatever is right", is that in the books?

>>1895632

Yes he asks for volunteers since its a direct threat against his persons and he outlines it as such specifically in his speech.
And most of the Wildlings seem to be with him (as they see him as their new leader) plus also many of the Brotherhood guys seemed to be willing.

The assassination attempt was more like because he would be nearly unstoppable as the lord afterwards. He commands now about 5k Wildlings of which over 1000 seem to be fighting people, because the outnumber the queens man and the brotherhood by far.

>>1895630

As a lord commander he has a responsibility and it's not just his business when he just goes away to die.
And the men at the wall? It's full of untrained peasant/wildlings.

>>1895632

he is a respectable person, many brothers, especially the youngster, would follow him not caring about anything else.

>>1895656
>As a lord commander he has a responsibility and it's not just his business when he just goes away to die.

Not the same guy, but it could be argued he could better serve the realm by leaving the wall and rallying the north to reinforce it.

Do we still have no idea what was in Robb's will?

>>1895661

well he wasn't going for that

>>1895669
"All remaining Stark direwolves must piss on the Twins

>>1895669
"Theon Greyjoy is a fag"

>>1895661

Wildlings untrained? The Spearwifes and most of the male Wildling fighters certainly can't be called untrained. Also the Wildlings who became brothers didn't go through months or years of training before being accepted. So we can assume they have some good fighting skills already.
And you don't have to be the master at fencing to defend a freaking 700ft high wall. Its more about having men to throw things down, watching the horizon and using bows (and accuracy doesn't matter at a height of 700 ft.... because its spray and pray anyway).

And its his choice as lord commander when he dies and how. Its not in their vows to die in a specific way. And its still a threat against him and its his right to respond to it.

>>1895669

Robb's will specifically was that Jon will be is successor as the Lord of Winterfell because he knew that Arya and Sansa were in the Hands of the Lannisters who would use them to get their hands on their lands after his death (if he died by force... which he did).

>Jon says his wounds are "smoking"
>Bowan Marsh has tears streaming down his face
>smoke and salt

>Melisandre thinks to herself "I pray for a glimpse of Azor Ahai, and R'hllor shows me only Snow."

derp

this is a cliffhanger, not a resolution

>>1895688
>Wildlings untrained?
oh yeah I mixed that up. they certainly know how to fight.

>And its his choice as lord commander when he dies and how. Its not in their vows to die in a specific way. And its still a threat against him and its his right to respond to it.

I don't believe a leader should do that and dragging others with him.


>>1895703

We all know Jon isn't really "dead". The question is how he comes back

>>1895703

"Then Bowen Marsh stood there before him, tears running down his cheecks. "For the Watch". He punched Jon in the belly. When he pulled his hands away, the dagger stayed where he had buried it.
Jon Fell to his knees. He found the daggers' hilt and wretched it free. In the cold night air the wound was smoking. "Ghost" he whispered. Pain washed over him. When the third dagger took him between the shoulder blades, he gave a grunt and fell face-first into the snow. He never felt the fourth knife. Only the cold..."

>>1895713

we will know that in about 7 years....


*sigh

>>1894714

can someone please answer my fucking question? kthnx

heres a copy you motherfuckers i converted it to mobi since the goddamned file from earlier in this thread is DRM`ed to hell and back.

enjoy you bastards.

http://www.mediafire.com/?7qfb9chuhwbiucr

>>1895776
yet another troll? file doesn't work for me...

>>1895776
nevermind, it's just AFFC again.

sigh

>>1895849
>>1895866

so desperate

tytyt

WHERE ARE THE SCANS. WHERE IS THE BOOK. AT LEAST THE FIRST CHAPTERS. I NEED IT.

Can someone clarify exactly what becomes of Hodor? What does becoming a "tool of Bran" mean? Is he no longer Hodor?

I need the audiobook, reading is for faggots.

>>1896074

it's just means that Hodor gets more used to Bran being in his body. Hodor goes into a dark corner of his mind where even bran can't reach him.

The Reed siblings do explorations often but don't want to take Bran with them. So he secretly wargs into Hodor every time and pretends to be him .

I WILL LITERALLY FLY TO GERMANY AND SUCK YOUR DICK IF YOU SCAN YOUR BOOK.

FUCK YOU, SCAN IT. SCAN IT. SCAN IT. SCAN IT.

sigh

"The flames crackled softly, and in their crackling she heard the whispered name Jon Snow. His long face floated before her, limned in tongues of red and orange, appearing and disappearing again, a shadow half-seen behind a fluttering curtain. (!!!) Now he was a man, now a wolf, now a man again. (/!!!) But the skulls were here as well, the skulls were all around him. Melisandre had seen his danger before, had tried to warn the boy of it."

"I pray for a glimpse of Azor Ahai, and R'hllor shows me only Snow. "

In the prologue, Sixskins dies and wargs into an animal body

>Jon dies
>Jon wargs into Ghost's body
>Jon goes back into human body
>AA reborn

though I don't necessarily see the point in that happening if he's going to return to his own body, but who knows, maybe Mel or Bran has crazy healing powers.

damn the book sounds so shitty
I waited 6 fucking years without complaining, and it seems George still couldn't deliver a half decent book what a joke.
lots of cliffhangers Jamie, and Jon etc
no Sansa chapters and 3 Bran chapters.
Chapter after chapter Daenery's craving cock

>>1896213
Now tell us how you really feel.

>>1896246
i suspect he doesnt like the book...

Does Gregor come back from the dead...?

I heard mention of a 'Ser Robert Strong'. Is that him?

fucking scans.

WHERE IS IIIIIIIIIIIIIIIITTTTTTTTTTT OMGOMGOMG FCK FUCK

What the fuck 4chan I know one of you fuckers has it!!!

>>1896379
>>1896328
>>1896295

LOL none of the germanfags scanned it. all we have are the spoilers they leaked out.

>>1896454
I scanned it and OCRed it. I'm editing it as I read the book. It'll be done by the time the book actually gets released.

Not related but i had no idea terry Pratchett was thinking of assisted suicide and reading the spoilers i just realized i like his collective works much more then any of the song of fire and ice books
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=slZnfC-V1SY

>>1896458
If this is true, share it with people. It's much faster and easier to edit collectively.

>>1896555
off-topic slowpoke.jpg

die in a fire.

>>1896182

Probably Melissandre will be a willing host for Jon's spirit herself. At least she seems to be a fanatic follower of her deity and AA. So she would be a good candidate to be willing to share her body with Jon so he can become AA

>>1896265
It's probably him

though Doran Martell says that he got a head that is so big it only could be Gregor

>>1896643

More like a flesh golem made of the remains of Gregor.

>>1896458
Come on release it quick.

>>1896709
don't feed the troll
>i bet it's the same cunt who's been posting fake ebook links here

>>1896458
i don't need you to edit it man
I am a junky looking for a fix for 6 years now if you don't F U CKen post a chapter and i ever meet you i will cut you man
Im just lookn for a chapter or two
ill suck you off for the prologue

>>1896643

Sandor is still alive and though he still has his nemesis and has to kill/destroy his borther. So its Gregor.

>>1896728

The prologue is more an explanation about what skinchangers can do...

Though its a little funny that the Wildling Skinchanger guy is dead and his soul is in the one eyed wolf which gets dominated by Summer later and is a pack under Bran's Summer. Heh. But Bran also hasn't realized that now and I am not sure if it will get important at some point...

>>1896641
It has to be this. Just think of Martin writing a chapter about Jon exploring his new body. The guy must have popped one trillion boners.

>>1896844

Martin always gets a boner when he thinks about Danerys' Tits. Thats why we know them in every little detail

Is it better than a feast for crows ? How would you rate it in comparision with the previous four ?

Is there a preview-chapter for Winds of Winter in it? If yes, what's it about?

That feel when your neighbour asks if you've read A Game of Thrones because they know you like reading but you don't read fantasy because fantasy is for children and you just nod and say you've heard of it but can never look at them in the same way again

Is it better than a feast for crows ? How would you rate it in comparision with the previous four ?

Can anyone give me a short, consisting of a few sentences spoiler-free review of this book ? Guys? Anyone ?

WHERE'S THE SCAN AGHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH

>>1896919

Are you serious?

FUCK, SCANS

>>1896960
>>1896919
Pretty much. Sorry guys Margaret Wies and Tracy Hickman (or however the fuck you spell their names) were fun to read in high school but I'm over that shit now. And if someone had told me then that I wouldn't have time to read more than about 3000 books in my lifetime and I didn't have time to waste on that shit I would have put it down immediately. Or I should have, anyways.

>>1896960
I'm as serious as cancer.

>>1896919
You know what else is for children? Fun.

>>1896975

>Sorry guys Margaret Wies and Tracy Hickman (or however the fuck you spell their names) were fun to read in high school but I'm over that shit now.

That is as stupid as saying you gave up on the horror genre because you don't like Stephen King. Or that you're never going to read science fiction again because you hate Alastair Reynolds.

If you want to make an argument against the genre go ahead, singling out authors is useless and makes you look like a retarded person.

Do you guys really want to read this anyway? I've read all four of the earlier books and I'm not going to. For one, the last book was pretty boring, but most importantly I know he's never going to finish the story, so why bother?

He's 63 years old, but incredibly pallid and unhealthy looking, and morbidly obese. At his current rate of around 6 years to put out a book, he'll be finished at 75. Does this fat neckbeard really look like he'll make it to 75?

Look at this picture I included comparing GRRM to Bruce Springsteen who is only ONE year younger. That says it all. Bruce will make it to 75 easy. GRRM will not.

GRRM takes forever because he doesn't enjoy writing, but love attention and adulation from his cock-sucking fans, which is why he spends 3 years doing money-grubbing book signing years after each book. Now he has that, in addition to his shitty WILD CARDS editing duties, and now the HBO series for him to waste time on.

"American Tolkien," my ass. He's written half a story. That's it. And he's already said that he won't let anyone finish the story if he dies.

>>1897085

to be fair if you look up the history of Bruce Springsteen his physique is part of the reason for his success: when he released Born in the USA he purposefully beefed up because he felt that's the image that should accompany the music.

Plus, to perform on stage for 2 hour sets is extremely energy consuming - you have to be in very good shape. If you look at Mick Jagger or Iggy Pop, both are also in great shape despite their age. It comes with the trade.

I don't know anything about the other guy other than people on /lit/ go on about him all the time.

>>1897085
It's probably best people wait till the series is completed before delving into the newest releases. That way you don't get into the story and then have a giant cliffhanger, on the account of the fat bastard croaking.

>>1897102
How is that relevant? It still means he's likely to drop dead before finishing the series.

>>1897127

I'm just saying there's a reason why Bruce Springsteen is in extremely good shape compared to the other guy. He's in far better shape than almost all men his age.

>>1897110

as if people wouldn't read an incomplete series and as if someone wouldn't be hired to finish it after he dies.

Do books not leak at all? With music it's sometimes a month before and definitely two weeks before. How hard could it be for some jag bookstore employee to steal and scan a copy?

>>1897171
seriously. i figured there would be some delay but it's been almost a week now. i'm beginning to think i might actually have to wait for the real release

>>1897166
Why would anyone knowingly read an incomplete series,especially if they knew it would not get finished?

>>1897182
pleasure's in the journey sucka.

and a series this popular would get finished by another author or at least have his notes released.

These books are awesome.
The characters have depth, the story is gritty, and the plot is great.
The story-telling itself is just phenomenal.

>>1897187

Not if he explicitly forbids it and his wife respects his wishes after he dies.

>>1897192
we all better pray that does not happen. The world does not need to be subjected to a million fanmade endings.

>>1897190

You can't say such things on /lit/. That's like saying Fight Club is an excellent film on /tv/.

Hopefully the scans will be out soon. Just few days to wait

>>1897197
except /tv/ have a god awful taste in movies, and they probably think fight club is one of the top 10 best ever.

>>1897190
Please, feel free to enjoy these books, but never ever try to justify it as an intellectual thing.

>>1897317

Have you read the books?

Is this a joke? So many days and we still don't have scans

>>1897354

We don't have scanners in germany ;_;

First letal cucumbers and now this

FUCK Germany

agh

http://adwd-reread.blogspot.com/

We don't want chapter-spoiler. We want scans

Scan some chapters and upload them. You can also convert it into text using ORC software

>>1897187
>pleasure's in the journey sucka.

A journey has a beginning... and an ending. sucka.

FAT PINK MAST

>>1897194
It WILL happen. George R. R. Martin has said it emphatically several times that the series dies with him. And his fat granny wife worships the ground he walks on.

The only way it gets finished after he dies, is after SHE dies too, and if whoever she bequeaths their estate to (they don't have children) decides to it. But she may put a clause in her will saying it can never be done.

So best case senario, 20 years. Worst case, never.

>>1897889
I don't agree, journey's don't need 'endings' to be journeys and refute the point, not the metaphor supafuck suckaduck

bump

Summer Islander bump

>>1898380

That is one fucking weird yellow coat that George is wearing.

>>1898062
>>1897889

You can't have a journey without an end, that's what gives the whole journey a point.

Without a destination you just have rambling, and while that can be entertaining and even liberating, that just isn't what the fat bastard was promising. The bloody title of the series itself is a promise of some epic war between White Walkers and the dragons that reduces the game of thrones to mere child's play.

GRRM better deliver, and if and when he does I will give him all the praise he deserves. Until then GRRM is just a fat constipated turd.

>>1898512
u mirin

>>1898687
Who cares? I'm 100% positive that Sanderson could improve on this series as well.

>>1898916
Sanderson is not that good a writer, dude. You are way over-rating him right now because he's new and fresh.

Just part of ASOIAF is better than any other series I have read.

And in my opinion Sanderson has improved parts of Wheel of Time, but he has also ruined in my opinion the very best part - Mat Cauthon.

I find that characters like Nyneave are actually now bearable - but Sanderson has completely ruined the one character in the series that I have loved, and has made him into a cartoonish caricature with a penchant for overt idiocy.

He also isn't as good of a wordsmith as Jordan, who had a real flair for florid detail.

Fuck, every theory i came up with after feast is turning out to be right.

I mean fucking Prince Aegon lives... I think martin just copies and pastes this shit off westeros.org.

>>1899040

Yeah, but part of Jordan's problem was his use of language. He'd waste pages putting forth tedious descriptions that added nothing to the story. The Wheel of Time had potential early on to be pretty damn good but then he just started churning out overly descriptive 30 dollar door stops.

>>1899119
I really think Jordan just forgot how to write good at some point in the middle of book 7 and just got bogged down in the series, because when he was on, he was on. I think Sanderson is a fine writer and as good a choice as any to complete the series but I don't think he's anywhere near Jordan's standard. The one really good thing about him is that he's actually moving the plot forward and things seem to be happening fast - and that's partly a result of his own ability as a writer, and partly a result of the place the story is at structurally. I mean, shit, I really think that one of the reasons people are so satisfied with the new books is because Rand is happy again instead of being CrazyRand, and it's not like that was Sanderson's choice to do, you know?

Again, I like Sanderson, but I'm not really that wild about his work. I think Jordan had more skill as a writer (despite his occasional excesses in description and his obvious weakness, or at least lack of attention, in plotting). Sanderson always seems so... self-aware. He's TOO snappy.

STOP TALKING ABOUT SANDERSON WE WANT SCANS

Holy shit Towers of Midnight is out i didn't even know Ive only been reading the other Brandon Sanderson's books to tide me over and i totally forgot to check when i came out. imma get it now wow this will tide me over till next week thank you /lit/. god damn school got in the way of my reading

also did anybody else read Elantris and Mistborn? my favorite character is Mat Cauthon too

how has it still not surfaced...

>>1899498

I don't think anybody is going to make a scan copy.

I think a lot of us just inadvertently spoiled ourselves (to my own dismay), by actively searching out for a scan.

which is a shame, because I tried to really avoid the spoiler comments too.

>>1899409
YEAH
GIVE US SCANDERSON

I HATE GERMANY

>>1899705
Fucking germans, was it too much to ask for just one Schindler to smuggle out the scans?

First Hitler, then E.Choli and now this

Germany stinks

>>1899767

Germans are gods own legion to punish the rest of the world. Face our superiority.

Webber's car is worst tah Vettel's

>>1899861

Maybe when Bismarck was around... But now? Really?
You people are a step away from a vaguely dutch idea of meterosexual style.
And even if your "military" started wearing those snappy spiked helms again - it would mean little to nothing if Germans didn't also simultaneously start growing awesome facial hair again.

My kingdom for a scan.

>/lit/

>>1899899
THE KING IN THE NORTH!

But seriously you should tryout the blog with the guy posting his synopsis. He knows his shit marginally more than the other fags who have been posting "comments" at towerofthand

>>1899974

We want to read the fucking book ourselves.
I don't give a festering shit what anybody else has to say about the book until I've read it.

If this blog guy wanted to be cool, he would have taken some fucking pictures of the book and posted it.
Hell - I would have been enthralled if somebody had just posted photographs of the first hundred pages.
The whole thing would have been unbelievably fantastic.

I want to read the actual book, not a bunch of detailed spoilers.

SCAN IT

I don't understand some of the assholes who have the book.

I would much rather want to talk about the damn book with people, rather than just spoil them continuously like some prepubescence shit-eating turd.

I don't fucking spoil people on good books. I get them to read them.
What is wrong with you assholes?

>>1899992
I'm not a dancefag either, I'm just saying that this guy's summaries make my balls a tad less blue than others.

>>1900003

Spoiling only destroys pieces of masterwork quality. So you get to know something of a plot in which the plot is carefully planned and told.

ASOIAF has a shitty 0815 plot and useless shit happens of which GRRM thinks they are cool and of course things he gets a boner of.

So spoiling ADWD won't hurt anyone.

>>1900059
>>1900059

Oh, yeah, I agree, and I'd even take it another step and say Robert Jordan was a better writer than GRRM is, but Jordan just had some deficiencies in what he wasn't willing to do, and what he wanted to do.

Especially what he wanted to do. Somewhere along the way he decided that he needed to tell the whole story of the world that he created instead of Rand's story first, and then Mat, Perrin, Egwene etc etc. So you get a bunch of shit about the seafolk and the Seanchan, and seriously, fuck the Seanchan, the whitecloaks, the people in the fireworks guild, the internal politics of the Wise Women (or whatever they're called), and all the other periphery groups that should remain fucking periphery.

But what I'm saying is that if RJ and GRRM were both given a specific plot outline and told to write that book, Robert Jordan's would be clearly superior

>>1900101

GRRM is a very bad writer after all...
He just managed to get a good universe running in the first two novels. But afterwards... meh... world sucks... GRRM sucks... sucks...

>>1900116

Troll harder.

>>1900131

I think you Sir have jsut never read any good literature.
Sad for you if you think that GRRM is a good writer

grrm might not be a good writer afterall but his asoiaf is still best modern fantasy

deal with it

>>1900133
it's not exactly what you're looking for but have you read [b] a SONG OF ICE AND FARTS [b]b/b/ byg eroge RR Fattypants

>>1890531
I have read all 5 parts.

>>1900153
Nah.

care to enlighten me whats better?

cook?erickson?jordan?hobb?

all inferior. some in character development some in dialogues... just overall weaker>>1900173

so where's the scan

SCANS

What's with the GRRM hate? He's a good writer. Guessing none of you have read Fevre Dream, Dying of the Light, The Armageddon Rag etc?

>>1900268
Saying someone isn't a good writer isn't hating. When they say GRRM isn't a good writer, it's not the same "good writer" you're talking about.

Scan, please

Scans for the love of all thats holy

Amen

Where's my scans Germany?

German confirmed for bitch tier

>>1900153
I like how GRRM gets credit for inventing "modern fantasy" which apparently is normal fantasy but with paragraph long descriptions of rape, penises and "nipple tweaking."

Fucking germans. We should have just wiped their entire country clean and been done with it.

Here are some scans to get everyone settled down.
http://d01.megashares.com/dl/z7VhuZi/ADWD_1.zip

>>1900900
anyone confirm?

HERE IS PART 2 of the scans!!!

http://d01.megashares.com/dl/WiXgKUl/ADWD_2.zip

>>1900920
>>1900900

hey gurm stop posting fake scans with the kfc virus that makes your computer fat and slow and finishes work 100000 years late and get back to writing winds of winter you fat fuck


fucking fat fuck

i aint dlin ur virii

>>1900268
No, I haven't read those.

You know what else I haven't read? FUCKING DANCE WITH DRAGONS BECAUSE FUCKING GERMANS WONT FUCKING SCAN IT.

Kraut bastards. First Hitler, now this.

PART 3!!!

http://d01.megashares.com/dl/8SkaqUD/ADWD_3.zip

Some pages are blurry, but THANK YOU, THIS IS WHAT WE WANT, SCANS

>>1900900
The first page was so illegible from blurriness I was like YOU MOTHERFUCKER and thought it was going to be a big joke, but the ones after that are legible so far.

They are far from perfect, but I sincerely appreciate the effort.

>>1900900
>>1900920
>>1900940
Ok, assuming these are real and not a massive troll...

I notice each file is bigger than the previous. does that mean #3 includes everything in #2, plus extra? If so I'll just wait and download the final one.

Ok now everyone loves me, where was the trust before?
No each new file has its own pages, just more of them so they are bigger files

How about as a sign of appreciation, someone gift me a game from the Steam sale..that would be awesome!!

>>1901069
Forgive me for my doubts. OK, hate to be complaining already but... is is possible to reduce the filesizes?

WTF is megashares?
Why u no upload to mediafire?

Still appreciate your contribution

megashares has a download limit, so strongly suggest switching hosts for the next couple zips

>>1901112
Are you really sure you want to out yourself like that? The lawyers are gonna rape you

Should i delete that post, there isn't really a way they can be sure that it was me that did it is there?

Please just write it down if you want to contribute in the next five minutes b/c then i will delete it.

If you still wanna help me out, maybe get me a cheap game on steam or something to help pass the time you can contact me on meebo

user id: adwdscans

>>1900900
thank you!

>>1901122
YOU SCARED HIM, LIKE BROWNBEAR GOT SCARED.

SAMPLE PAGE

Don't worry, it's simply impossible to them to find out, and I don't even think you'are doing something ilegal

It's only an ASoIaF hater who says it for the lulz

Can anyone reup this on mediafire? Seem to be stuck in some kind of retard loop on megashares where it keeps going back to the first link after I type in the verification and hit the download button.

>>1901155
the first page is shit quality. it gets better quickly.

there is still minor blurriness in the bottom few lines of each page though (its closer to the camera)

Men if shit is real im gonna bought you any game of 2.5 dollars you want

this shit is real, just look at everyone elses posts, i am trying to get stuff up as fast as possible, but it does take time, and it is a holiday

if you are feeling generous this 4th of july my Meebo ID is: adwdscans

you can contact me on their so I can be more secure

Link for Part 2 seems to be broken, can someone re-upload please? Will suck your balls.

if you want to suck my balls, do what i said in the post above you, is meebo an easy way for ppl to contact me???
Is it really broken link? was it taken down?

thank you so very much

>>1901186
I just finished downloading from #2, worked fine for me.

so awesome, thank you sir. i'm gonna keep lurking this thread if you plan on posting moar

No one wants to talk to me on meebo...

>>1901263
No one uses Meebo

Please keep the scans coming, every time i come looking for scans here i risk spoilers, its killing me...

using meebo to be anonymous, i guess if someone wants to say something they will come

If any other heros want to scan and upload the book, start with pages 352-353

Pretty sure this poster isn't the original source.

I've seen these around the Internet for the last day or so, with the exact same shadows/page stops/file sizes. And I don't think it's the same guy posting twice. So let's not give this guy any money.

>>1901278
As my grandfather told me just before they sprung the trap: you can't cheat an honest man; never give a sucker an even break, or smarten up a chump.

>>1901278
shut yo mouth

I don't care who actually did the scanning, thank you for posting the links!

>blurry scans in 2011

>>1901278
have you seen any of the later pages floating around?

>>1901310
No, this is as far as I've found too. Pretty sure the original source is scanning chunks as he reads; you can tell by the changing bookmark in the pics. My guess is we can expect 150-200 pages each day until he finishes the book.

>>1901319
where did you find the original source?
Would be nice to not have to hope some kind anon posts them on /lit/ days after they first go up

>>1900940
>>1900920
>>1900900
Jesus Fucking Christ dude, ADWD is Azor Ahai, the prince that was promised. Thanks good ser!!!

>>1901186
>>1901184
Register for a free account at megashares, then search for ADWD_1, and download. This worked for me. Cheers!

Found a resized version with single link (Part1-3) - 284 MB

http://www.wupload.com/file/43671734

>>1900900
>>1900920
>>1900940

This is very appreciated.

>>1901453
i hope theyre not too resized, some of these pages are near impossible to read at the original resolution, make them smaller and you could write of around a quarter of each 2 page spread on the first part

>>1901467

The image resolution and quality are still the same, only the weight is lowered.
See the joint pic.

>>1901453
Much appreciated! Did you find the link or did you make it using the megashare files linked above?

Thank you veeery much!
Are you going to upload more pages?
I want to read Arya :D

The originator of these scans is from Reddit... This retard trying to get free shit is full of it, so he should go fuck himself.

>>1900883

You are right. He just sets a focus on mutilation, rape and sex in general (plus he loves nipple twisting it seems). Besides that its the same old Fantasy Genre with a bit of the 100 year war as a flavor.
And because of all the rape and sex people say its DIRTY and thus REALISTIC and they get a boner of it. Just as GRRM himself, the reason why he writes that way.

GRRM hasn't invented anything and didn't set any trends from 1996 to now.

>>1901453
This is hanging on me pretty severely. Anywhere else to get it up?

Any alternate download links available?

To people who have read the fifth book...can you guys tell me if jon actually uses Longclaw in the book other than to behead Slynt? you know like in a fighgt or something?

Is there any indication of jon's progress as a swordsman

>>1902020
>>1902023

no

>>1902020

No. He only wants to draw it in the end as he gets attacked by Assassins (Ursupers...

Lol at people asking for spoilers. I bet you guys would fail the marshmallow test even now, as adults.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Stanford_marshmallow_experiment

So you mean to say there are absolutely no fighting/training going on at the wall? Also I wonder who would claim longclaw now? Do we come across any good fighters at the Wall?