so apparently i'm supposed to dump my vodka.what do you guys think about this?
finish itthen go buy a handle of veil for $16
might as well drink it it's not like they'll be hurting with you not drinking
Did they go out and buy that vodka just to dump it out in protest?
Buy Polish and Finnish vodka instead.>>1059219This.Russians are getting your money whether you dump it or not.
>>1059219Probably not?
>>1059219i was wondering that too but those guys were actually the bartenders in NY
>>1059171 (OP)While you're at it you could all just stop drinking?It's one of the worst drugs for your health and mind.
It's not about dumping vodka, it's about raising awareness to the fact that the Russian Government just passed a law where it basically made it illegal to be gay in public. Russia is trampling on people's rights there. I think it's not about the Vodka but about highlighting the abuses.No one should be happy that skinhead groups are targeting gay people online, torturing them and causing a lot of them to commit suicide - not to mention killing them.Russia nauseates me these days. It should for everyone. Putin and his Duma dickwads have scapegoated gay people because of their failed state. It's a country filled with alchoholism, hooliganism, social decay and corruption - but what do they do?Marginalize and demonize the very group that already had a lot against them.It's fucking atrocious.This is a G8 country. This is an alleged modern nation.
>>1059264i'm a 4th trimester nu-dionysian alcosexual transwino. check your sober privilege fucking shitlord.
>>1059264get out of my thread >:}
>>1059284Just a reminder: This is happening because Russia's GLBT population allowed radical feminists like Femen and Pussy Riot to take over.
>>1059171 (OP)>throwing away good vodka because a bunch of Jews told you it was a good ideaTerrible.
>>1059284>It's not about dumping vodka, it's about raising awareness to the fact that the Russian Government just passed a law where it basically made it illegal to be gay in public.Guess what? The UK had practically the same law until the early 2000s and no-one was ever arrested "for being gay in public" because of it.>alcohol ftyoist
>>1059264B-but I'm really sad when I'm sober and don't have any drug hookups.
>>1059304i haven't done it yet :T
>>1059303No it isn't. They have been planning this for a while. Foreign Minister Baird from Canada said today that at a G8 meeting where sexual orientation was to be included in a general human rights pledge that Russia put an asterik next to it, signaling that they would not agree to such a direction. It's easy to scapegoat a minority when a country is falling apart.Anyway, how can millions of people ALLOW a small group of "artists" to do anything,.Do you see how retarded you sound?Wtf are you talking about "take over"?
>>1059323Keep up the inaction, my good man.
>>1059312But they are being arrested in Russia.Um, post that law...I think you're trolling.
>Russians make all vodka
>>1059327>Anyway, how can millions of people ALLOW a small group of "artists" to do anything,.>feminism in general hasn't been hijacked, how can millions ALLOW that?Do you see how retarded you sound?
Good thing my vodka is from Sweden.
No more russian vodka or anything from Russia and I'm definitely not watching the Olympics.
>>1059333>But they are being arrested in Russia.For protesting illegally. If you do not get permission to protest ANY cause in Russia, you are breaking the law, just like you could be in any country that has restrictions on disruptive public assembly or public order laws.
raising awareness won't do anything
>>1059337So all gay Russians knew what those "artists" were going to do?and as such, IT'S OK TO DISCRIMINATE AGAINST THEM?Perfect sense.
>>1059351Or even writing about being gay or discussing homosexuality.This law emboldens cretins to violently attack gay people. We are already seeing it happen - a lot.
>>1059352Not doing anything is worse.
>>1059363>We are already seeing it happen - a lot.Are you Russian or are you just going by that one picture-book style photo article you saw online?
>>1059372the end result is the same really so i meanwhatever makes you feel good man
>>1059354Calm your tits, woman.
>>1059337I honestly don't see anything wrong with feminism. But that's another topic I suppose.I could just as well blame Stalin for bringing back the Orthodox Church.
>>1059376There's much much more than that photo article occurring, and a lot of it is very sophisticated.
>>1059333Um.You do know that the UK chemically castrated gay men up until the mid 20th century right?
>>1059304What Jews?What does Judaism have to do with this at all?
I just get upset when I read about how gay teens are committing suicide to avoid being outed by those skinhead groups that find them from vk.com.
Pretty much all vodka tastes the same anyway unless you got super taste buds. But considering alcohol damages your taste buds anyone that regularly drinks won't have super taste buds. Anyone that buys foreign vodka is just throwing their money away on import fees and taxes.
>>1059397Mid twentieth century is now the year 2000?
>>1059416The law was on the books until then.
I didn't have love for Russia before, but now, they're on the same level as some subhuman nation like Uganda or Yemen. As a gay person, I just can't be a part of anything that actively is against gay people be it nation, company or group.
>>1059416>make separate but related point>you conflate both points like a retard
>>1059447Calm down. Anon was committing a simple misunderstanding.
Why did they call it "gay propaganda"? Anyway, why would they single out gay people, but not something as propagandistic as the orthodox church?
>>1059461Propaganda is not, inherently, wrong. It only matters if the message is a lie. >cue snarky anti-religion remark...
>>1059471OK, but arresting people and allowing a culture of violence to explode against gay people there is seriously fucked up.
>>1059429>>1059397>>1059312>tfw France legalized the gay in 1790I laugh at all your ridiculously backward countries.
>>1059485>France legalized the gay in 1790*eyeroll*How "European" of them.
>>1059416Part 1 was relating to Section 28, or 'yet another reason to dance on thatcher's grave'Part 2 was how they used to put gay guys on estrogen, like what happened to Alan Turing.
>>1059447I'm not that guy but I don't thing they are related given the time perspective from a sociological standpoint.Not sure I made sense, but I'm trying to say that people then thought differently about homosexuality at an almost global scale. Comparing to know, Russia's government knows left from right but are, I guess, trying to hold intact the support of the Church.I'm not the most informed faggot in the board, mind you.
>>1059481Yeah. Wasn't defending that the distinction was right, just that a valid cause could exist for distinction.
>>1059393In other word, "I read photo journals and blogs"
>>1059511>because only good things happen to gay russians.
>>1059495What is that supposed to mean?
>>1059434>I didn't have love for Russia before, but now, they're on the same level as some subhuman nation like Uganda or Yemen.In other words, "Hitler was right"?
>>1059501thisduh
>>1059461Faggots are the disease. Putin is the cure.
Bear in mind everyone that 95% of the Russian population were serfs (slaves) until like 1918...so they are in essence behind in a lot of ways and take to ignorance very easily.
>>1059539Every slave desires a master.
Russia is just using LGBT as a scapegoat for their shitty everything that's going on. Putin doesn't really care about or hate queers, he's just blaming them so people don't blame him.Anything we do internationally will make no difference
>drinking russian vodka right now>ate Chick Fil A five times through the boycott>love Ender's Game>gay as a goddamn pink unicorn shitting rainbows while learning the magic of friendshipI don't shop with my dick. Putin doesnt even own vodka companies, and as an IR major watching him piss off everybody is too much fun to care. He's on the other side of the planet.Plus he granted Snowden asylum, so that's gopd, fuck the NSA.
>>1059557So basically it's the same thing hitler did with the jews back when germany was in absolute economic shambles.BECAUSE THAT TURNED OUT SO WELL AM I RIGHT
>>1060931Their economy got a huge boost actually so it kind of did work out quite well, plus it fixed nearly every other countries economy.
>>1060918It's not about shopping with your dick you idiot, but whatever.
>>1060938HuhYou're right.Let russia gas their gays, sucks for them to have to take one for the team but the world really needs it.
>>1059234Polacks are just as homophobic as RussiansNot sure about Finns. Don't know any.
>>1059351>Any protest against the government is illegal/considered "disruptive">WELL WHY WERE YOU BREAKING THE LAW???Please don't actually be this stupid.
>faggots are butthurt because a country east of the iron curtain is acting conservativewhat the flying fuck
>>1059543Hell, that whole of Eastern Europe was literally cheap slave (slav) labor since the Roman Empire's days.Based Peter was the only one that actually wanted to make Russia a civilized place and not the backwater woods of Europe.
>>1061364More like gay people don't want to give Russia money, because they are acting like assholes to gay people there, including tourists. It is interesting that you have such a big problem with how gay people spend money.
>i'm going to waste my money dumping all this vodka instead of turning it into profits>don't worry guys this is totally hurting russia yeah!!!
This Russia thing is making me worried.My ex was Russian, this giant bear of a man, such a sweetheart. He went to high school in the US as a boarder and then stuck around for college and began to live here seriously. He went back to Russia a few years ago when his dad got cancer, though. He always said Russia was a shitty place to be gay to begin with, I can't even imagine what it's like for him now.>come back Alexei :(
From what I understand, the vodka boycott was just about bringing attention to the fact that these laws were implemented. I can't ever respect or admire Russia again. It's just stupid and regressive to - out of nowhere - make laws that scapegoat a whole group of people and essentially make them 2nd class citizens. We all know how brutish a lot of the people are there. There is going to be a lot of blood shed from gay people. I know this is 4chan, but fuck that shit, I can't just laugh this one away or make fun of it. At some point, the whole gay stigma thing and all that crazy bigotry (thanks Abrahamic religion) has to start waking people up.IT IS NOT OK WHAT RUSSIA IS DOING. IT IS ALSO NOT OK THAT THE OLYMPICS WILL BE HELD THERE.
>>1061586Amen. Wouldn't it be fantastic if we made it such a big thing that they had no choice but to move them somewhere else? It would be such a blow to their government and tourism and everything.
>>1059171 (OP)>tfw no russian vodka to dump on the streetIt sucks to be poor.
>>1061586Suddenly Russia is the big bad guy when the rest of the Third World executes gays routinely.Fuck off. And for the record, it's no easier being gay in China than it is in a Western country. Everyone hates gays except for stupid white Westerners.
>dumping vodkathey're not losing anything if you already paid for it
>>1061624The wise and sane citizens of the modern countries are looking at Russia right now shaking their heads. The fact that their sports head has threatened gay olympians and gay travelers is troubling. When was the last time a host nation has THREATENED their visitors...before they even get there?
>>1061624>Let's bully people who don't agree with our self-destructive behavior.You wouldn't drink so much if you didn't hate yourself to some degree. Think about it.
>>1059264Could you elaborate on that? I'm 18, barely drinked in my life... But still somehow can imagine myself having a drinking problem. It's so easy to drown your emotions into some strong liquor... But can we really go through adult life without it?
>>1061643Out of nowhere those laws were created. The middle east has hundreds of years of known antigay sentiment based in religion.You fuck off you ignorant scumbucket. Russia pulled this draconian law out of a magic hat to deflect attention away from the govt. and onto their already marginalized gay population.GET IT ASSHOLE?
>>1061643Prove that everyone hates gays.
>>1061657Good. We deserve it for being asshole attention seekers.I wish I could be the gay Hitler and genocide my own people for their faggotry.
>>1061676Attention seekers? You're so bought by homophobia. Why is bringing attention to discrimination - bad?
>>1059289Toplel for this post.
>>1061643>>1061676Obvious self hating closet case is obvious.
>>1060943>Implying it isn't
>>1061705I don't think it is. I think sometimes a boycott is plain and simple : bringing attention to an issue. This is a worthy issue.
>>1061690>openly admit LGBT status>closet caseI think I'm just going to convert to heterosexuality. At least women shut up when you hit them.
>>1061709No, it's not. Russia doesn't have to cater to your whims. Stop trying to dictate how other people live.
>>1061684Because if you act like a faggot, you deserved to be called out for it.
>>1061713>you're so believable. The fact that you are thisclose to wanting all gay people dead is pretty indicative of the fact that you're not gay or even bisexual...but if you are...why the fucking anger? Why is it SO BAD that gay people are concerned about what is happening to gay people in Russia?What? Your parents raised you to not give a shit about anything ?
>>1061717It's not about my whims you retarded wombat. >Stop trying to dictate how other people live.The gay people in Russia...don't want to live the way they are living.Why do you support their oppression?
>>1061721But it's totally ok for gay people to be oppressed and have laws placed against them?That's fine with you?
>>1061713lol who says LGBT status?
>>1061741Gay /= faggot.The fact that you can't tell the difference means that you're part of the problem.
>>1061774Doesn't make a difference in the Russian law. You can be a complete normal gay person, but as soon as you do something - like write about your experience as a gay person, or hold hands with your gf/bf, you can be locked up.
>>1061724Why do you have white anti-racists who want the white race to die out? Why do you have antisemitic Jews? Why do you have Uncle Toms?
I just can't agree with pouring out drinks I already paid for. I can not buy Vodka all day though.
>>1061733They can leave. The majority doesn't have to bend over to the will of a shrill, harpy-like minority.
>>1061799Racism is an anti-social behavior. As is anti-semitism.Why do you want to scapegoat gay people?
>>1061788>completely normal>gay personNormal people aren't gay. Just FYI.
>>1061805Why do they have to leave? Why are they being characterized as shrill and harpy when they haven't done anything? Btw, the majority had no play in this. This was strictly government orders.
>>1061825Says who?
>>1061812Homosexuality by definition is an anti-social behavior, but your answer doesn't make sense to begin with.
>>1061829Are the majority of people gay? If not, then they aren't normal.
>>1061833>anti-socialHomosexuality isn't an anti-social behavior, homophobia is.http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Anti-social_behaviour
>>1061812Raping, murdering, and mugging others is antisocial behavior.Pointing out that a certain race does this at statistically much higher rates than others isn't racist.
>>1061838lol wow you're an idiot.People with blonde hair aren't normal then.
>>1061844Multiculturalism damages society far more than racism ever could.Checkmate, gaytheist.
>>1061853Correct.People with blonde hair are gods.
>people actually think all vodka comes straight from Ruskieland
>>1061861Being gay has nothing to do with multiculturalism. I agree that importing foreign people into alien cultures destabilzes the host society - but that has nothing to do with the gay people already in that society.
>>1061838The majority of people are asian, if you just want to play the majority card. Also: women. Men aren't normal. Dark hair. Brown eyes. Well below what we consider the poverty line in the US. You'd have to be all those things to be normal by your definition.
>>1061889Yep, that's all true.
>>1061870I'll take that gal from whatever land she's from, I tell you that.
>>1061912The most normal person in this world, according to the retards ITT is :an asian female, with dark hair and brown eyes who lives on a rice paddy.lol I love it when homohaters open their stupid fat mouths.
>>1061805Actually, they cant leave. Where are they going to move, ukraine? Russia isn't an EU country. It's just like how I want to leave the USA but I can't.
It's fucking stupid as hell. What do you expect Stoli to do about the government? Fucking childish, is what it is.
>>1061925And I love that homos are racist.
>>1061953Actually Stoli HATES Putin, who tried to take the company. The CEO lives in the USA. And Stoli is a HUGE supporter of gay rights and people..But the boycott is not about hurting Stoli, and it won't in the long run...It's about calling attention to the ignorance of the Russian govt.
>>1061967I know, that's the thing. Why wage war on the brand that is most explicitly in your corner?
Vodka is polish...
>not buying Americanfaggots, all of you
>>1061976lolwatvodka is just grain alcohol diluted to 40%
>>1061953>I'M BOYCOTTING JACK DANIELS BECAUSE I OPPOSE OBAMA'S DRONE STRIKES ON PAKISTAN
>>1061972I think it's because a lot of people had no idea how much of a supporter they are. The saving grace of this boycott is twofold..not only did it bring international attention to this issue, but people, gay and straight - who, of no fault of their own...how many people know brands that deep? ... will realize how ethical the company actually is
>>1061986Exactly.
>>1061991>>1061986Wrong. If no one knew about the drone strikes and people chose to boycott an american product en masse to bring attention to it, then the boycott would make sense.Ya'll some dumbasses here.
>>1062005But everyone KNOWS about the Russian laws.
>>1062009Now they do.
>>1062013They already did. and what the fuck were they going to do anyway? Everyone in power was already aware.
>>1062009It's also a hairy matter for the Russians because they're a "modern" nation about to host the Olympics next year. Pretty stupid of Russia to pull this right now.
>>1062022You bring up a good point anon. The people in power are always trying to divide people.
poor soulless corporations. they must have their feelings hurt that people arent buying their product as much. we should stop being such meanies to them. i dont think their little hearts can take it
>>1062044Seriously. The alcoholism rates in Russia are deplorable. That's a big reason why they have so much social decay, but they have to go blame gays...stupid.
>>1062005Right. It makes perfect sense to do something incredibly stupid and illogical that will ultimately harm an unrelated third party rather than the one you intend to oppose so long as people hear about the issue through said retarded act.You know, forgetting that this was all over the news any way and the boycott came after.It's a retarded slactivist "protest" whose only main accomplishment is displaying how ignorant its participators are of Russia as a country.>"man, fuck Russia let's do something to piss them off">"well we can't right them an angry letter or tell people online">"yeah they have an alphabet with backwards e's and shit">fuck what's something that's Russian>"Ummm...vodka?">"YEAH POUR THAT SHIT DOWN THE DRAIN">"FUCK YEAH AND LET'S SMASH OUR COPIES OF TETRIS">"AND BEAT UP BARYISHNIKOV"
>>1062074And? Sounds like you care more about vodka then you do human rights. Get your fucking priorities together.
>>1062074Bear in mind that a lot of shit goes over people's heads only until something very colorful occurs.
>>1062074Well to be fair, the ingredients do come from Russia, and they are taxed which pays DUMA paychecks..no gay person wants to support those paychecks...furthermore, the CEO has stated that he is now looking into procuring his foreign exported stoli ingredients from elsewhere.
>>1062091Sounds like you're trying to use "muh activism" to save face from the fact you're participating in an idiotic and completely illogical form of protest when you could have just as easily gotten word out with something that wasn't nonsensical and retarded.
>>1062112>Boycotts are only bad if gay people do them
>>1062116>anyone who disagrees with me is a homophobic cisscumThe boycott isn't "bad", it's stupid and extremely poorly thought up.You are being retarded.End of story.
>>1062112Actually this all transcends Stoli. Brand Russia is damaged. But then again, the russian govt. did it to themselves.
>>1061978you savage no one wants to drink American rubbing alcohol.the rest of youYeah guys lets boycott Russian vodkas they totally make up 95% of their export, not the gas and oil they take from Chechnya you're right.
>>1062125OK! FINE! YOU HAVE ANY SUGGESTIONS AS TO WHAT WE CAN DO SINCE YOU'RE SO FUCKING BRILLIANT? COME ON, OUT WITH IT!
>>1062138You could justyou knowlike tell people what's going onlike what the news was doing and pretty much everyone was doing and listening to before this "boycott"and what has worked for the majority of things like thisLike seriously, we're posting on the goddamn fucking internet and you're asking how to get people's attention other than pouring out bottles of vodka. Really.
>>1062126You're right. It has been damaged, and oddly it's not the vodka boycott that has done it, but their stupid officials who have threatened olympic visitors...lol It hasn't even started and before they say hello, they're giving threats. FUCKING DUMB.
>>1062146Boycotts make front pages. Before it was on page 20. Duh fucking duh.
>>1062154This was already making front pages without idiots who understand nothing about protest.They're hosting the next goddamn Olympics, you really think this shit would just fly under the fucking raydar?But whatever, keep justifying your tumblr grade slacktivism that is so lazy and misguided it only manages to get attention from its sheer stupidity.
>>1062172You mad?It always tickles me when losers get mad over consumer products. I'll bet you give no fucks at all about the abuses against gay people in Russia...but spilt Vodka? You're having a grand fit. haha I like you though.
>>1062194>you mad?Goddamn, and I didn't think you'd actually get to that point.> I'll bet you give no fucks at all about the abuses against gay people in RussiaI am gay you stupid fuck.You want to help LGBT people in Russia? Try organizing a protest that doesn't make the LGBT community look like a bunch of idiots who don't understand what's going on and then play the victim when someone calls you out for being a stupid twat.
>>1062217There have been numerous events and press conference that have nothing to do with the boycott. So, to paint all gay activists as vodka dumpers is absurd. You're focusing on a slice of what's going on then generalizing...just like a typical fucktard would. Bravo asshole.
>>106165029 years old here... have never drank my whole life. the drunks around me were the perfect motivation to not start drinking. that, coupled with the fact that there isn't a single positive thing that comes from drinking, gives a solid view of what is best.walk the streets of key west, new orleans, memphis or any similar towns at night and you'll get an eyeful of demotivation for the drug.
>>1062253>There have been numerous events and press conference that have nothing to do with the boycottOh, but I thought this boycott was so important to raising awareness?>So, to paint all gay activists as vodka dumpers is absurd. You're focusing on a slice of what's going on then generalizingYou have an amazing talent for finding shit I never said and then repackaging it as something I did.Did I say ALL LGBT people re boycotting? No. I said everyone who is participating in this pointless boycott is retarded and an embarrassment to everyone who identifies as LGBT (not just gay). You are an embarrassment for enabling this stupid specific protest group for the sake of getting up on a moral high horse.
>>1062305It is important in bringing awareness.
>>1059171 (OP)It's water because dumping vodka into the drain is bad for the environment.. Apparently.
I don't think this act of dumping wine, as protest, to be idiotic. I think it's a stepping stone for us (and especially the victims on the other side) to be heard and so for some higher power to do something.Quite frankly, I don't think the US, or all the other members of the UN, will stand up for civil rights in a country that has nukes if people just don't press their concern.
Hey OP, if it's Stoli vodka then dumping it is misguided.The company is based out of Germany now and is supportive of the LGBT community.Check their website if you don't believe me:http://www.stoli.com/
You already bought it, what's the fucking point.I would annihilate it through consumption, then not buy any more.Unless you're like me and you don't care.
>>1060931>So basically it's the same thing hitler did with the jews back when germanyLol, no. It's more like using homosexuality as a reason to get rid of the SA. Some of the Jews were an actual problem.
>>1060918>Fuck the NSAGood man.
>>1059171 (OP)>throwing away vodkajews gonna jewout on this
>>1061826>when they haven't done anythingWhat are you talking about? The reason why they are being arrested is because they are breaking the law by protesting illegally. If you don't want to be arrested, do not break the law, especially not where police can see you. The reason protests are more strictly controlled in the first place is because of that disgusting group FEMEN, who campaign for gay "rights", among lots of other things.
>>1059284Whait a minute... it is all so familiar...I can't seem to place it, oh wait.
>>1061586You are such a fucking faggot, holy shit.
>>1061812Anti-racism is an anti-social behaviour. It leads to the destruction of your people.
>>1061920Is it Stoya? If so, she fucks blacks.
>>friends go apeshit saying I have to immediately empty all my vodka since its produced in Russia>> They decide to show support by going out and BUYING russian made vodka and THEN dumping it>> completely fucking baffled at their logic and waste of precious liquor >> still being bitched at for not dumping mine.No fuck you, I'm going to finish my bottles and then by another brand
>>1062928>being Russian>my friends invite me to go out and beat some random dude who looks gay because that's what we russians do for fun on saturday's night>I refuse>I'm so anti-social
This is as stupid as republitards buying french wines to pour them out because they wouldn't join the coalition of the willing for Iraq.
>tfw I know awesome gay guy from Russia, and he can't explicitly say words like "homosexual", "...out on a date" etc online due to fear of getting his chat logs read and becoming hunted down IRLIf he stops showing up online I'll assume he's been bludgeoned to death or thrown in jail. ;_____;Fuck the politicians and the braindead scum acting on their politics.
>>1060918mah niggaKeep MUH SNOWFLAKE HOMOSEX separate from politics already. Gays getting killed is serious shit, but Chik-fil-A is laughable.Problem is, what can we do to stop what's going on in Russia atm? Nuke?
I went out an bought Stoli, because Dan Savage is a manipulative fuck, and Stoli isn't even Russian, it's pro-LGBT and Latvian. As in another country, dumbfucks.Boycott the olympics if you want to 'make a difference' and 'draw attention to the cause' otherwise you're just wasting good vodka.>>1059303This is true, but Putin is still a prick.>>1062984OH GOD THIS
I love Russia so much.They are the only country standing up to faggotry.Lets forget countries in Africa or the Middle East that behead gays, no, lets focus on the country that just doesn't want faggots waving their dicks around in front of children.Makes so much sense.
>>1059171 (OP)>dump my vodka.Vid relatedhttp://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tpc8mJO5FYE&feature=player_detailpage&t=38
>>1063272UN resolution and sanctions are the only political option I see. It seems to violate the declaration of universal human rights or whatever the UN calls their document. Then again, Russia isn't really known for having ever given a shit about human rights... or the UN.
>>1062935Welp, I take that back then.I'll bring rope instead of a condom.(I'm kidding. I wouldn't bring a condom regardless.)
>>1062935>tfw find qt 3.14 pornstar>tfw find a scene where she does IRShe is immediately dead to me.
you really think dumping vodka in usa will make putin change the law?what about making pressure to your government, asking im to make pressure on putin government.for this kind of stuff you need famous people, excuse me, famous RUSSIAN people/ famous people that are well known in russia, to raiuse awarenees in russia.to do so you might also use EU and USA government actually protecting the well-being of these people at the same time.
>>1059171 (OP)I couldn't care less. They paid for their vodka, just like a flag burner paid for the flag.
>>1063428except buying a flag doesn't sustain a significant part of any economy.Nevertheless, it is a useless form of protest. It only confirms Russian people's opinion that the West is hostile to them and that homosexuality is a conspiracy designed to destroy their country.
>>1063458How then should I feel being a Russian homosexual? And>homosexuality is a conspiracy designed to destroy their country.is the African tier bullshit. You can find a heap of hostile anti-LGBT quotes of R. Mugabe or other ruling faggots.
This is the result of Dan Savage bullshit, Dan Savage being a huge idiot.Gay rights problems in Russia? Hurr durr do something something boycott something Russian - EVERYBODY BOYCOTT RUSSIAN VODKA!Idiot is unaware that Stolichnaya has been one of the first national corporations to advertise in gay magazines when all others say it would be death to the brand, when homophobic groups like AFA have been demanding boycotts of Stolichnaya for its supporting gay publications and providing promotional money in exchange for displaying their logo at gay events from large Pride events to karaoke nights at bars.Dumbass Dan Savage doesn't think about that, remember that, or even check to see if it makes sense since Russian vodka companies like Stolichnaya aren't owned by the Russian government.Because Dan Savage is a shallow dumbass who runs a freakshow that gets decent traffic from straights with morbid curiosity on the internet.Fortunately, serious gay activists aren't joining in with him.
Dan Savage's previous work of dumbassery was the "It Gets Better" campaign, a useless piece of work that people delude themselves into thinking is activism. It is attractive to others as the "It Got Better For Me" campaign, in which they can self-congratulate themselves for "helping" because they have support in thinking LOOK I'M HELPING BECAUSE I'M ENCOURAGING. Meanwhile, it does nothing to solve the causes of abuse of gays, and ignores because it's uncomfortable because those people who they say should be getting better because they're being encouraged by nameless strangers on the other side of the continent won't be - they'll still suffer the textbook PTSD-like symptoms for the rest of their life, even if it's a short one from being kicked out and living on the streets.Savage could have encouraged and structured something that would have a meaningful result, like trying to organize boycotts of the Olympics in Russia, or assembling pressure for US lawmakers to condemn it publicly, often, and in visible media.Instead, he does something that is not unlike creating a web meme that if you collect aluminum pop-tops, somehow something is done with them that nobody understands that will make things better. And there is no connection.Dan Savage is something that can finally come to be in our age, safe for straights, safe for himself. He's the equivalent of the 1960s TV housewife who collects fur coats for hurricane victims who've lost everything in Florida and thinks he's changing the world. Dan Savage is the Bourgeois Homosexual.
>>1063901>that critique on "It Gets Better"THAAAAANK YOU. The whole campaign felt contrived and mean. Famous celebrities and people looking 9.5/10 telling bottom-tier gays (ie mentally ill cases like me, uggos, non-famous people) it's gonna get better. lolmao
>>1063901It Gets Better wasn't meant to be political activism, it was meant to make adolescents feel better. If you think it's ineffective or that his time would be better spent doing something else, that's a legitimate complaint, but to look at it like it's meant to be political activism is silly.
Vodka is shit.This is coming from an Eastern European.Whiskey is the shit.
>>1064039Are you gay or not? Real faggots drink White Russian.
i dumped my vodka into a cup drank it then pissed it out .. real defiance
>>1059219>>1059234>>1059237>>1059242Bottles of Russian vodka were donated by bars. So no, they didn't buy any. Those bars will not be restocking their Russian vodkas.
>>1063297Stoli gets its ingredients from Russia which helps to support the Russian economy.You're an ignorant prick.
>>1059352You've been misled by a lot of idiots in this thread. It /does/ raise awareness, but it is also meant to put a stranglehold on Russia's economy. Vodka is one of their chief export. If all these bars that by several hundred bottles of Russian vodka a month stop buying it, they WILL feel the impact of it.
>>1059521It means /pol/ is still sticking its dick in /lgbt/ as usual and needs to go the fuck home.
>>1064146polbgt thread?polgbt thread
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>>1063272Pull funding, UN resolutions, and of course the vodka boycott is actually working. I know you can't see it now, but companies have already been responding with concerns. Something else would be to pull all the sponsors from the Olympics or pull the Olympics out of there entirely.They've been treating all of their builders for the Olympics like shit regardless of gay status and I'm pretty sure they're embezzling funds meant for the games.>>1060918I figure if Heinrich Hemler owned a restaurant, you'd be eating there every day? When you know your money is going toward an unjust cause, you're becoming an enemy of those people.You're no friend of the LGBT community when you behave that way and your self-hatred is helping nobody.
Most gay bars have put Stolichnaya back on the shelf, because after the first frenzy, they realized that Stolichnaya has been more supportive of the gay community than Dan Savage or their own local cities. Only the superficially-reasoning have stopped at RUSSIA BAD-VODKA RUSSIAN-BOYCOTT RUSSIAN VODKA.>>"It Gets Better" is worse than ineffective, it's injurious. It diverts action from real solutions by letting people think that by doing something low-effort and low-risk that they're comfortable with, they are working towards a solution of the problem. Counseling associations don't come out and actually condemn it, because to those who are already desperate it might be interpreted as being even worse, but they humm and haw about it not being "a whole solution". The reason for that is the fact that for those who find it will just "get better", they've already a surmountable problem or have the support and resources get over it. For the rest, it's distraction and support of fabrication, inaction, and delusion.A diagnosis of "Healthy Self-Delusion" is only healthy for the diagnostician, because he won't be there when the bill comes due.
>>1064175Godwin's law? Really? How does it feel knowing you do that "MUH SELF-HATE" thing even worse than POTC?>>1064166Wait until summer is over, and the shitposters leave. We can be together again then...
>>1063327>waaaah I can't try to convert children to my way of thinking>better starve 'em out
>tfw no bf
>>1064130>Vodka is one of their chief export.AHAHAHAHAHAHAHA
>>1064175Goebbels rules, Himmler drools.
>>1064130Russia actually exports more guns than booze. And I wanted to buy myself a nugget, but the prices just skyrocketed since a lot of Russian gun companies cut us off due to our bitching over Snowden.
I guess you will only be able to find Russian vodka in straight bars.
>>1063367I know this feel, brother.The gays really have it easier than they realize.
>Total value of Russian vodka export: $177 million (and I'm being extremely generous with this figure)>Total value of Russian exports: $198 billionAssuming gays magically buy all the Russian vodka in the world, a Russian vodka boycott would shave 0.1% off their total export value.Damn, you gays are really STICKING IT to the Russkies!(Source: http://www.indexmundi.com/trade/exports/?country=ru)
>>1068274I'd see this as more an issue of personal accountability (not personally supporting Russia by consuming Russian vodka)But you're right that this is far from the best way for the LGBT community to respond to this issue.
>>1068303>>1068274>drinkingI'm ashamed of you, my overseas buttfriends.
I wish I had money to go see the Olympics. I'd get to see figure skating live and then I'd get some friends to help me erect a giant rainbow flag in the crowd in front of all the cameras.
>>1068326I'm not overseas, I'm just up late.
>>1068350Lol do it faget.Have fun in the gulag for the next 20 years afterwards.Don't worry, they'll probably give you all the anal rape you could ever ask for.
>>1068356Why is it that so many people on 4chan think it's cool to make comments like that?I'd never be proud of sounding like a complete piece of shit. Even ironically it wouldn't make sense, I still don't see what would be so awesome about pretending ironically to be a complete piece of shit.And that's not to imply that you're not actually retarded enough to be that much of an asshole. Just saying that even if there's someone stupid enough to pretend to be an asshole like that they're retarded.
>>1068368>MUH FEELUNGSThat's why, you reddit piece of shit.Every worthwhile board on 4chan tears each of its members a new asshole upon the first ten initiations.One you realize that "people saying hurtful things towards me" is the absolute least relevant issue that you could ever possibly deal with in your lifetime... then you have the potential of being ready to deal with the actual issues that face humanity, in any context.This is something you will never be able to do while all your free time is tied up dealing with the fact that someone, somewhere on the internet, had the audacity to use the word "faggot" on the world wide internet.I just added a year to your life.How does this make you feel?
>>1061805Not everyone is rich enough to move out of a entire country.
>>1068389It makes me feel like I wasted my time reading a post so stupid.
>>1068401>MUH FEELINGSI tried to save you years of your life that have been otherwise wasted on tumblr, but you wouldn't listen.Come back when you are ready to deal with reality.
>>1068412It sounds to me like you're just making up bullshit for the meme hards though.
>>1068423>for the meme hards though.Also, please try to learn proper English before returning.
>>1068430I'll probably just stick around and keep calling you a retarded piece of shit though.
>>1068356I would but no money.
>>1059303No its happening because putin keeps having large protests against his government and hes trying to scapegoat some of that onto gays and distract people with a social issue to hold onto power.
>>1068368Hey there bud. I'm really that much of an asshole, because I hate gays despite being one.
God why are you faggots always so easily trolled?
>>1068674Like atheists, gays are the easiest sexual identity to troll.
>>1069844Gays, atheists, christians, jews, and niggers, all fall into the trap of my powerful trolling.Such pathetic, mentally damaged people.
>>1068451>No its happening because putin keeps having large protests against his government and hes trying to scapegoat some of that onto gays and distract people with a social issue to hold onto power.It's happening to distract people from the fact that Snowden was granted political asylum in Russia.
>>1059303this is full of shitthe femen branch in russia was an offshoot that was denounced by the central femen group in the ukrainepussy riot arent against lgbt rights, their songs have lyrics which directly support lgbt rights
>>1069844>implying trannies aren't the easiest sexual identity to troll>>1070038Noice b8
i cant give up vodka ;_;
>>1070263Then don't. This is a stupid and thoughtless reaction that would make no difference except grab maybe one or two headlines, anyway. You are not helping anyone by even considering such a thing.
>>1070198Which is the problem. They're defiling and disrespecting the church and making the LGBT community look like disrespectful shitheads.
>>1059304oh /pol I love you so
>>1068439That's the spirit.
>>1059327>they've been planning this for a long time, ever since yesterday!
>Let's boycott the only Russian industry that actually stood up for LGBT rights!That'll teach em not to do it again
>>1059171 (OP)dumping your vodka would be a waste of money and wouldn't do anything because you already paid for it. just drink it, and don't buy it ever again.
Counterproductive. Stoli is not a russian company.
>>1081784http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sinking_(behavior)
Not all vodka is Russian. Just buy Polish vodka.
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