Because they're parasites who can't support themselves in their own movement

Excuse me for not understanding this, as i am new to the gay community. But do you mean why as soon as someone says gay, everyone thinks queers/trans?

>that picture
can you /pol/ fetishists just go get your asses pounded at a clan meeting please

>>1087411
>being this mad

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>>1087395
same way you fags latched on to blacks and cunts in the 60's ? I guess history does repeat itself.

>>1087411
>implying you wouldn't fuck a qt3.14 /pol/ boy, working through his insecurities as you both come to a greater understanding of issues like racemixing and spirituality, and then revolt against the U.S. government together.

guessing gay is the majority or at least the most known to society

the right for same sex couples to marry, and other rights to do with that, helps us all.. or at least helps bi's

>>1087420
it's annoying

>>1087425
no
that sounds horrible

i agree i don't think they are or should be lumped together most of the time, but they're not totally separate either socially or in terms of political causes. a lot of trans used to be gay/lesbian and are still a big part of the "community" and have to deal with a few similar problems. but other than that, idk, whatever

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>>1087425
>qt3.14
>/pol/

>>1087366 (OP)

I've been wondering that myself. They're not even fighting the same battles. The very arguments trans* use to justify their inability to comprehend genetics and demand society accept their cosplay because of feelings undermines the gay/lesbian/bi argument that everything's genetic and feelings don't matter. As long as that T is hanging around the LGB, no one's going to take either stance seriously for anything meaningful.

>>1087366 (OP)
This must be cutest picutre I've seen in a while. Post more similar! hnnng

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>>1087366 (OP)
OP, seeing the filename, it seems you didn't draw this pic.
However, for the love of us all, pls, if you know who did, or if this person reads my post, pls, I beg you with all my heart, draw moar of this.

>>1087402
true. i think most people sadly only care about their little walled off box though. so that means the box tends to reflect the people who experience oppression mainly through that one category, e.g. white, upper middle class gay men like most of the people here. now somebody accuse me of being a tumblrfag and say how you only care about what affects you, directly.

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>>1087402
>>1087518
What stops Bob from taking part in the actions of both groups if he agrees with both?
Why does he assume all people of each group should necessarily agree with those of the other just because *he* is part of both?

>>1087465
>The very arguments trans* use to justify their inability to comprehend genetics and demand society accept their cosplay because of feelings
But, I don't do that. I don't think I'm really, genetically female. Most trans don't. I hate that nonsense. I just don't like being treated like crap. I mean I get it, but we could at least work together on that, maybe?

>>1087402

Death to intersectionality.

>>1087411

>Implying it's not /lgbt/ doing the fetishizing

Also, OP, should make the /lgbt/ more trappish.

>>1087559
because both groups are still too narrow, even among themselves. one represents a small subset of gay men. one represents a subset of hons. i don't know, it's hard enough getting everyone within a little group to work together, partly because they think they all need to agree and share the same background. recognizing wider issues would be ideal but it doesn't really work out like that.

>>1087560

It's real simple. Functional SRY gene: male. Non-functional SRY gene: female. Humanity is a binary species whether you choose to like it or not. You don't like the hand you were dealt, take it up with karma, God, the universe, the Powers of the Warp, the roll of the dice, whatever innate force or chaos that dictated the terms. No amount of surgery, cutting, or happy thoughts is going to change the biological fact, and a rational society isn't going to buy into the "I don't feel biologically x" line when you're clearly biologically x. The futher we dig through the genome, the better the understanding that mind isn't over matter. Clinging to the notion that gender is fluid (it's not) in spite of science is akin to looking at a picture from Earth's orbit at a globe and insisting that it doesn't FEEL round and that it can be flat if it wants to be.

>>1087594
>/lgbt/ more trappish.
If we had to represent /lgbt/ as it is, but trannies are not part of this /polgbt/ thing.

>>1087614

That's why I specifically didn't say tranny, I said trappish. /pol/ would need an effeminate /LGBT/.

>>1087603
I already said I don't think that so why are you lecturing me? Do you just have some shit ready to copy+paste on people?The motivation/cause is not what you think it is. Of course you can't fully become one sex. That's not the point. It's a quality of life thing. I can't explain why I feel a certain way--there is evidence of a physical etiology, but I can't into neurology so don't ask me--I just know I'm stuck living with it.

>>1087694
And that wasn't the point of this thread anyway. That doesn't relate to my question. Not treating people like crap doesn't have to rest on agreeing with their position on gender. That only comes into play when you're dealing with sex-segregated spaces but that's always going to be a contentious issue w/ people who really stand out from gender norms

>>1087692
Well he's already kinda effeminate.
The pic is pretty good in my opinion.
Maybe we can make one of /pol/ cosplaying as a SS and /lgbt/ crossdressing.

>>1087694

No lecturing you specifically, didn't mean to imply that. Getting through the social justice miscreants on tumblr is where I usually have this discussion. When the only argument they have revolves around "gender-fluidity" and "sex is a social construct", one has to do the equivalent of spelling things out in very small words with gritted teeth because the reality is a very different animal than what they're preaching as gospel, and that level of stupidity being perpetuated is scientifically unsound.

>>1087743
yes please

>>1087425

/pol/ is the kind of guy who would be either disgustingly unkept or aggressively macho to the point where noone would want to be around him.

So no, not very qt3.14

>>1087757

Probably the latter. Definitely feeling the military haircut.

>>1087446
Don't most /pol/sters look like Dante, only with more blubber and neck hair?

I think I'll skip it, thanks.

>>1087766

Dante's posted pictures of himself?

>>1087757
>secretly gay macho-acting fasists
>not qt as fuck
Also >>1068795 →

>>1087366 (OP)

i hope the artist who drew this makes more.

the innawoods story would make for a nice comic

see >>1075725 →

>>1087770
Unfortunately.

>>1087402
>don't just attack one part of Western civilization, attack ALL of it!

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>>1087770
He posted this at least.

>>1087775

I've met guys like that in real life. They may seem cutely tsundere when you read about them online but irl they're the most insufferable obnoxious people with a network of impenetrable deeply seeded issues.

>>1087779

i think dante would look okay if he cut that hippy hair & got cut as fuck, im talking /fit/ levels of cut.

>>1087783

That certainly explains some of his /interesting/ philosophies.

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>>1087770

>he's never been to /gaygen/ to see my shenanigans

It's like a shitposting circus.

>>1087783

This is why I usually stop posting when I'm drunk. I'm a total sad sack when you get enough beer in me.

>>1087799

It's a work in progress, really. Neckbeard is gone since I realized it would never be the GOATface I wanted it to be. Still working on finding time for the gym after work.

>>1087783
so, like
what group does he appeal to

>>1087826

well that is nice to hear, you will look like fine man if you keep at.

dont let gay gen keep you down!

All gay people are trannies. Wanting to fuck people of the same sex as you is a non standard gender expression, ergo fags are trans.

>>1087366 (OP)
Top LeL of the day!

MOAR!

>>1087826

I'd fuck Dante on the basis of his politics alone.

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LGB really, really, really needs to divorce itself from the T. It does nothing but hurt the cause.

The feminazi hanger-ons also need to be disposed of.

>>1087976
then you are one messy bitch

>>1087993

can somebody edit out that nigger part?!

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>>1087976
You slutty faggot. If you looked for /pol/-type guys to fuck, you'd find better. At least someone passable, not like Dante.
I wouldn't fuck him outright, but would accept to dominate and degrade him in a sexual manner.

>>1088060
wat?

>>1087465
Let's be honest here. The whole "everything's genetic" is a dumb and probably inaccurate argument meant to placate the idiots who think nonconformity is bad.

Whether it's a choice or not, the point is having a different sexuality doesn't hurt anyone and so we should have the right to screw whoever we want.

Whether it's natural or not is irrelevant.

>>1088071

read the pol part

>>1087993

Dante put your trip back on.

>>1087422

They like forgetting that part.

>>1087366 (OP)

Because the other people keep lumping us together with you because they seem to think we're like a hyper version of gay or something. So we shrugged and went with it, because we're being oppressed for similar reasons.

>>1087465

There's more to sex, gender and sexuality than genetics. People like me exist, you know; and I certainly don't feel like an "other" sex.

>>1087603

Since when did we claim gender was fluid? It's not. Transsexuals are proof that it's not fluid. Otherwise, we could be "fixed". Ever notice how your arguments are oddly similar to the anti-gay arguments of days gone by?

Whatever.

>>1087603
But hormones dictate behavior- so who's to say some people are arguably in the wrong biological sex?

I mean, a woman with a lot of testosterone could be said to be male by gender but female by sex.
No one's saying that anyone is biologically anything other than the sex they were born in- but gender isn't biological, just dictated by hormones and character and maybe even development.

>>1088093

It's all natural... but natural does not mean it's exactly the norm, nor does it mean it's evolutionarily advantageous.

But it doesn't matter. We're all mistakes of nature; and we will live our lives, the problem fixing itself as we die and don't spread our genes. The least we can do is enjoy the trip.

>>1088172

It is biological, though.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/David_Reimer

After a certain point en-utero, there is a solidified, neurological gender in a fetus; and nothing you do can change it, short of rewiring the brain. Why does everyone forget this?? The anti-trans folk, the tumblr trans fags....

>>1087366 (OP)
Why does everyone need to be a special snowflake with made up mental disorders?

>>1088061

>Implying I'm not a top

nice try m8

>>1088133

I'm ok with the T, I just think they need their own movement because their needs and wants and their EVERYTHING is different from the LGB. I don't have anything against them, hell, most of them are more tolerable than the average normalfag. I just think they're better off doing their own thing so we don't constantly trip over each other.

>>1088240
>implying I'd care about your consent
Dante pls.

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>>1087757
>as opposed to being a flamboyant faggot who talks with a lisp and has AIDS
Nah fuck you too, /lgbt/.

>>1088248

This is why I need my CC permit when I turn 21.

>>1088201
David Reimer, who I read up on, was unwillingly put into that situation as he was not able to object, was put into several unnatural situations attempting to replicate sex play, and was also not born with a genetic hormonal imbalance (which may explain transexuality), but rather a botched circumcision led to the doctors deciding to sexually resign him.

He is not the average transexual. In fact, if anything, his experiences would obviously lead him to trauma.

>>1088292
>he would have been fine otherwise, I-I swear

>>1088292

He's not alone, though. It's basically taking the opposing argument that gender will change by changing hormones in a person's body and turns it on its head.

>>1087781
>HURRRRRRRR

>>1088311
>no response

>>1087603
> looking at a picture from Earth's orbit at a globe and insisting that it doesn't FEEL round and that it can be flat if it wants to be

lol, the earth isn't a perfect sphere, idiot.

feminists like grouping you in one category

it makes it easier for them to refer to you. remember, to them you are but a novelty.

>>1088306
Yes, but he also was forced to sexually play with his brother and also forced to piss out of a hole in his side. Again: not only is he not the typical tran, but childhood trauma is extremely influential in these things.

>>1088327
Grasping at straws like a mad cunt.

>>1088343
>sexual abuse MADE him think he was a boy, even though he was born a boy!

>>1088343

He's not alone.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/History_of_intersex_surgery

>>1088353

It's like they don't even listen to themselves.

>you're a boy because you have XY and were raised as a boy!
>David Riemer is a boy because he was sexually abused and didn't want to be a girl after being reasigned!

Yeah, no, they definitely don't listen to themselves.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Intersex_surgery#Controversies_and_unsettled_questions

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Being transgender is as much a mental disorder as being normal male or normal female is a mental disorder.

There are a lot of research papers that were published in peer reviewed medical journals as well as many decades of research results that were published in books that show how this works.

Here are some examples out of the hundreds you can find if you look.

http://www.nature.com/nature/journal/v378/n6552/abs/378068a0.html
http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/7477289
http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/7477289
http://jcem.endojournals.org/cgi/content/abstract/85/5/2034
http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/11826131
http://www.sciencedirect.com/science?_ob=ArticleURL&_udi=B6WGC-4KGPPKP-5&_user=10&_coverDate=11%2F30%2F2006&_rdoc=1&_fmt=high&_orig=search&_origin=search&_sort=d&_docanchor=&view=c&_acct=C000050221&_version=1&_urlVersion=0&_userid=10&md5=f1636a3bf52ba5fc8afbcddef4c74437&searchtype=a
http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/16870186
http://informahealthcare.com/doi/abs/10.1080/09513590400018231
http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/15724806
http://brain.oxfordjournals.org/content/131/12/3132
http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC2754583/?tool=pmcentrez
http://dx.doi.org/10.1016/j.jpsychires.2010.05.006
http://science.jrank.org/pages/2061/Diethylstilbestrol-DES.html
http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/7689007.stm
http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/19341803
http://jcem.endojournals.org/cgi/content/abstract/85/5/2034

The idea that people have their brain change to be more like the opposite sex as a result of believing they are the opposite sex isn't completely unfounded and it's being researched and there are papers on it as well. Brains change as you get older and I think brains do get "more male" or "more female" as you get older. But male and female are different from the moment you are born and this happens before you know what a girl or a boy is, so it's certain that people can simply be born with an opposite sex brain.

________

>>1087395
Uhh... you wouldn't even be a fucking movement if it weren't for trannies.

>>1088403
>dat Americanocentrism

I agree. Why is a mental illness lumped in with human sexualities?

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>>1088450

WOOP WOOP

Being transgender is as much a mental disorder as being normal male or normal female is a mental disorder.

There are a lot of research papers that were published in peer reviewed medical journals as well as many decades of research results that were published in books that show how this works.

Here are some examples out of the hundreds you can find if you look.

http://www.nature.com/nature/journal/v378/n6552/abs/378068a0.html
http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/7477289
http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/7477289
http://jcem.endojournals.org/cgi/content/abstract/85/5/2034
http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/11826131
http://www.sciencedirect.com/science?_ob=ArticleURL&_udi=B6WGC-4KGPPKP-5&_user=10&_coverDate=11%2F30%2F2006&_rdoc=1&_fmt=high&_orig=search&_origin=search&_sort=d&_docanchor=&view=c&_acct=C000050221&_version=1&_urlVersion=0&_userid=10&md5=f1636a3bf52ba5fc8afbcddef4c74437&searchtype=a
http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/16870186
http://informahealthcare.com/doi/abs/10.1080/09513590400018231
http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/15724806
http://brain.oxfordjournals.org/content/131/12/3132
http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC2754583/?tool=pmcentrez
http://dx.doi.org/10.1016/j.jpsychires.2010.05.006
http://science.jrank.org/pages/2061/Diethylstilbestrol-DES.html
http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/7689007.stm
http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/19341803
http://jcem.endojournals.org/cgi/content/abstract/85/5/2034

The idea that people have their brain change to be more like the opposite sex as a result of believing they are the opposite sex isn't completely unfounded and it's being researched and there are papers on it as well. Brains change as you get older and I think brains do get "more male" or "more female" as you get older. But male and female are different from the moment you are born and this happens before you know what a girl or a boy is, so it's certain that people can simply be born with an opposite sex brain.

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>>1088060

here Enjoy

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>>1087603
/thread

>>1088468

Feels Aryan, man.

>>1088450

Need I remind you that homosexuality was classified as a mental illness in the DSM until the DSM-IV? Yeah. You were mentally ill in the DSM-I, DSM-II, and DSM-III, and their various revisions.

Just saying.

>>1088240
>implying you'll ever find anyone who'll have sex with you

>>1088060
>>1088468
The whole point of that was to highlight the hypocrisy of /lgbt/ fags - they profess white nationalist ideals yet still love their BBC.

It's much in the same way they worship heterosexual men yet despise bisexual "breeders" (also illustrated).

>>1088487
And they realised it's not anymore, but kept GID because it is a mental illness.

>>1088487

Except Gender Identity Disorder is a legitimate mental illness that manifests in bouts of dysphoria and is treated by transitioning the physical body to match the mental state.

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>>1088534
>still love their BBC

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>>1088538
>>1088549

Being transgender is as much a mental disorder as being normal male or normal female is a mental disorder.

There are a lot of research papers that were published in peer reviewed medical journals as well as many decades of research results that were published in books that show how this works.

Here are some examples out of the hundreds you can find if you look.

http://www.nature.com/nature/journal/v378/n6552/abs/378068a0.html
http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/7477289
http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/7477289
http://jcem.endojournals.org/cgi/content/abstract/85/5/2034
http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/11826131
http://www.sciencedirect.com/science?_ob=ArticleURL&_udi=B6WGC-4KGPPKP-5&_user=10&_coverDate=11%2F30%2F2006&_rdoc=1&_fmt=high&_orig=search&_origin=search&_sort=d&_docanchor=&view=c&_acct=C000050221&_version=1&_urlVersion=0&_userid=10&md5=f1636a3bf52ba5fc8afbcddef4c74437&searchtype=a
http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/16870186
http://informahealthcare.com/doi/abs/10.1080/09513590400018231
http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/15724806
http://brain.oxfordjournals.org/content/131/12/3132
http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC2754583/?tool=pmcentrez
http://dx.doi.org/10.1016/j.jpsychires.2010.05.006
http://science.jrank.org/pages/2061/Diethylstilbestrol-DES.html
http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/7689007.stm
http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/19341803
http://jcem.endojournals.org/cgi/content/abstract/85/5/2034

The idea that people have their brain change to be more like the opposite sex as a result of believing they are the opposite sex isn't completely unfounded and it's being researched and there are papers on it as well. Brains change as you get older and I think brains do get "more male" or "more female" as you get older. But male and female are different from the moment you are born and this happens before you know what a girl or a boy is, so it's certain that people can simply be born with an opposite sex brain.

>>1088534
>loves BBC

Anon, what did I do to you that makes you want to spread such hurtful lies about me?

>>1088534
Stop talking.
I'm an antiracist faggot but most Black people disgust me sexually.

>>1088563
>because most people's psychological gender is aligned with their genitals trans are sane.

That's like saying that hallucinations are normal because people use their eyes to see with.

>>1088563
Do you expect me to read this spam? Fuck off.

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>>1088590

illiterate or lazy

2/10

>>1088563
GID is a textbook mental illness.

>>1088582
yeah I'm not racist but milky piggy skin is a huge turn off
I heard white men cum miracle whip

>>1088563
So even in your post you admit that Trannies have mental issues due to physical brain mutation due to a birth defect? Ok thanks for playing.

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>>1088620

illiterate or lazy

2/10

>>1088534
>The whole point of that was to highlight the hypocrisy of /lgbt/ fags - they profess white nationalist ideals yet still love their BBC.

dont generalize & stop believing in that myth,

>>1088635
i hope you realise nothing in your post refutes the fact that GID is a mental illness and is identified as such

>>1088563

I didn't say it wasn't. I said that being born with the opposite sex brain should be considered a disorder because it needs to be treated by transition.

Also spamming? Really?

>>1088459
Nah, it's a mental illness. Deal with it. Being heterosexual is conducive to fulfilling your natural role of reproduction. Being a tranny is just people with personality disorders.

>>1088647
>If you don't want niggers in your country spreading AIDs, that means you love black cock!
>If you don't want homosexual propaganda being taught to your children, that means you're in the closet!

Same shit.

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>>1088633
>mutation

top lel

>>1088629
Butthurt nigger pls

>>1088563
If someone was born with "an opposite sex brain" then why does their brain still make them produce male hormones like testosterone?

>>1088556
>>1088574
>>1088582
>doesn't doesn't want to be gangbanged by a group of gorgeous, hyper-masculine, ebony gods

What's it like being heterosexual?

>>1088702
>gorgeous, hyper-masculine, gods
>niggers

Pick one option, and one option only.

>>1088702
>wwanting hiv & herpes

>>1088538
>>1088549
>>1088620
>>1088653

It's no longer classified as a mental illness, nor a disorder, in case you haven't noticed.

Transsexualism, nor GID, did not exist within the DSM until the DSM-IV. It had several similar criteria as homosexuality did within the previous DSM revisions. It was revised and declassified as a mental disorder in teh DSM-V.

>>1088682
damn you're heated
better calm down, rooms smelling like bacon

>>1088647
That whole image is a bunch of ridiculous generalizations. That's part of the joke.

>>1088629
Yeah, whatever.

>>1088702
These >>1088719 >>1088720
Plus I'd prefer to be on the other side of the gangbang.

im a bisexual and i feel no need to be lumped in

LGT can be there own group from what i've seen at university and on tumblr i don't want any part of that shit

some gays are alright. a lot of them are either closeted loners or narcissistic pests. if i didn't get off on being dominated i wouldn't give them the time of day.

being bi sucks though. if a woman knew what i like other men to do to me she'd never love me. she couldn't.

>>1088755
>being bi sucks though. if a woman knew what i like other men to do to me she'd never love me. she couldn't.

It is a man's duty to never be fully honest with a woman.

>gays talking about black specifically having diseases
oh the ironing
>inb4 a bunch of posts about how they're different and blacks are worse
dirty niggas complainin about dirty niggas

>>1088809
>>inb4 a bunch of posts about how they're different and blacks are worse

>hating stats

>>1088809

And yet I'd support even the worst black man if he protested that he was not worse than a gypsy.

>>1088826
stats or not, I'd be wary of both of you
deal with it

>>1088755
eeehh..... I know some girls who would love a bisexual bf
I would prefer one, tbh.

>>1088755
As much as I hate bisexuals, I also pity you. Women are so horrible I can't even imagine what it must be like to be drawn to them in any way. The sheer intoxicating effect those fishy flaps of theirs have on heterosexual men both unnerves me and fills me with envy.

It's nice to know you apparently lie to them about your nature as much as you do to us though. What's it like knowing you'd be nothing but a pathetic faggot to her if she knew what you actually are?

On account of "enemy of my enemy is my friend" and basic solidarity. If you were to say "gay men deserve equality, fuck lesbians though" you wouldn't have a leg to stand on, on account of it's basically the same argument for both. Trans IS different, but no too different not to count.
I don't know about all those other letters; they sound like special snowflake bullshit.

>>1088690
do you realise women have test too?

>>1088447
>>dat Americanocentrism
You wouldn't have a movement if it weren't for America either.
And it all started because trannies wanted to be trannies.

>>1088755
Why would one care as long as you don't ask them sexual favors out of their comfort zone?

>>1088923

It works perfectly if you acknowledge that there is an innate hierarchy of groups and people. You can make an argument for some military commander or another to have the same power as a higher-up; you can't say the same about new recruits "in the name of equality".

>>1088909
the reason why bisexual guys don't tell people is because straight chicks think "bi guy = gay" and fags think "bi guy = straight but horny/desperate"

>>1088948
I'm not sure I understand what you're getting at.

Also, the higher-up always has more power; a sergeant has more power than his men, but a general has more than his sergeants. A better comparison is a comitte with each group having an opinion, and the group with the biggest unified opinion gets that opinion enshrined as fact.
So that's why we collude; more votes.
We support trans so they'll support us.

>>1088403
They certainly can produce a movement.

>>1088755
>being bi is hard

>>1089115
> implying it's not
> implying that shit don't happen

>>1088930
The American-trannies-made movement you're talking about is exactly what people hate in LGBT movements.
For what actually matters (legality of homosexuality and acceptation of homosexuals in society) we didn't wait for a puritan country to tell us.

>>1087993
>muh hormones

OH GOD MY SIDES

>>1088403

>dat tranny propaganda

http://igfculturewatch.com/2002/03/07/the-myth-of-a-transgender-stonewall/

Stonewall was mostly white homosexual cisgender men. (And prior to that there were plenty of gay rights organisations, which were themselves made up of--you guessed it--gay men.)

I identify as BBQ and I don't understand why I'm always lumped together in LGBTQJFLANVFWTFBBQ.

Especially FLAN.

You can't make Flan on the Barbeque, that's crazy!

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>>1087366 (OP)
/pol/ here L,G, and B are naturally occurring biological phenomena and are acceptable in my book.

Just don't expect me to paint myself rainbow and prance around in one of your parades.

T is a glorified sexual fetish.

>>1089246

I think most of us here hate pride parades.

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>>1089209
I wish I was Flan.

As T as I am, I can understand why you'd want to be seperate, L,G, and B...
We don't all fit into just one of you, and we probably confuse the crap out of L and G at least.

/lgbt/, please stop spamming /pol/ with this shit.

Well OP, it's like this.

>gay people ally with other gender atypical people

Most people think, "Hmmm, maybe people are all different." And rights for LGBT folk advance steadily along.

>gay people ally with NAZIS

Most people think, "Holy shit, Nazis. What evil, hateful, murderous assailed."

>don't take gay people seriously
>justifiably because they are pandering to FUCKING EVIL NAZIS

Also, most gay people aren't evil psychotic racist airbags.

>>1089375

And I meant assholes obviously, fuck this tablet. But since hours the same for who keeps posting this but with a slightly different letter that should be excluded each time, I'm assuming you're either trying to "prove" that all of /pol/ are repressed gays, or you're a homophobe trying to prove all gay people are nazis.

>muh equal rights! We're all just people
>Ew fuck why do we allow this lgbtbbq bullshit, they don't belong with us.
>its not like we're fighting for the same things
(Equal rights and acceptance)

>>1089246
So much this.

xx: female

xy: male

If you were actually MEDICALLY intersex then you would have a valid explanation. A vast majority of these people don't advertise this, and do not seek attention for it.

But being in everyone's face (read flamboyant and attention seeking) about being trans just means that you want societal acceptance of your snowflake state of being.

You can do whatever you want with your body. You are free to chose to call yourself whatever you want. You cannot, however, justify these things as anything other than a fetish. You also shouldn't force others that have a real and definable sexual orientation to carry your cross.

>>1089402
The recent "/pol/" posters are trolls. Actual neo-nazi gay guys exist but are very rare, probably because, oh, I don't know, the Nazis executed people for being gay. Either it's a false flag, they're just bored, or they're loser straights who can't get laid and wish actual gay men looked like their animu traps so they could fuck SOMETHING and wouldn't look like such utter losers. But you are losers, you are. I'm sure some gays would fuck you for a story or a pityfuck, though.

>>1089442
>the Nazis executed people for being gay
No, they put degenerate liberal sluts in camps because degenerate liberal sluts need to be kept away from society so they cannot harm it.

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>>1089311

Y-you can be my flan, anon

>>1089442

Most of the SS was gay.

What are you talking about?

>>1089450
lol
this guy

>>1089375

Fascism is more popular than feminism.

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>>1089402
No, we don't fight for equal rights, because all advanced democracies with rule of law already have this automatically regardless of their stance on homosex.
>inb4 gay marriage
Gay marriage is not equal rights, everyone has always the equal right to marry; the difference is the definition of marriage which allows or not to marry someone of the same sex. But this isn't equality, it is freedom, freedom to choose the partner you want.

Thing is that while equal rights are not negociable and suffer no exception (which means of course we have to support equal rights for trannies), freedom does have limits defined by the law, and it is perfectly justifiable to oppose some revendications of additionnal freedoms.

>>1089442
>implying the majority of /pol/ are national socialists

ya done goofed.

This is going to sound really mean to amy transpeople so I apologize in advance.

I agree entirely. Transpeople make me uncomfortable, I believe they have a mental illness, I don't think they'll ever truly be any gender other than the one they are biologically, and I really wish transpeople hadn't become a part of the whole lgb sexuality movement. I don't think they belong with us.

That being said I stil treat them with kindness and respect because they deserve that as human beings. I call them by their preferred pronouns and placate their desire to be the other gender because I feel it's the best way to treat their illness.

As soon as someone tries to be "outside of the gender binary" though, fuck em. There are only two genders.

You can be a feminine male or a masculine female and there's nothing wrong with that.

>>1088258
>implying the lisp is not what love more.

>>1089442
>wish actual gay men looked like their animu traps
Im a gay man and i wish this.... Why can't real people look like my sexy Chinese cartoons...

>>1089478
Lol no. Literally no one takes /pol/ seriously. I'd say you're butthurt because we're making real gains while the most stormfags can hope for is appearing as villains in after school specials (down from Indiana Jones movies) but I think some of you trolls are ironically trying to make pol look bad, not that it needs the help.

>>1089442
>all /pol/friends are neo-nazis

That's like saying all blacks are violent thugs. Why are you such a bigot?

Fuck off SRS, /pol/ is our greatest ally.

>>1089478
What a joke. Is that why feminism is propagated throughout media and academia, on facebook, reddit, tumblr etc. and all over universities while everyone is literally conditioned to believe that fascism=evil since they were children?

>>1089574
But they are. Sliding?

Why do trans have to be lumped in with gay's? I always see posters up at uni about the Gay movement and it pisses me off.

>>1087603
>Gender isn't fluid
Hello, I have some intersex people for you to meet.

>>1089532
>implying being gay isn't a mental illness
>top lel

>>1089532
you trollin, son?
I'm bi and see no problem with the LGBTIGJHGDZJHGD movement being more inclusive. Gender =/= sex. There are only two sexes, but gender is cultural tradition only. I think the more separated the two concepts become, the better.

>>1089587
the fascism that is popular today is called "democracy" or "freedom"

>>1089246
Most of /lgbt/ hates pride parades. It's pretty much autistic faggotry on the level of furries and bronies, except it's centered around what you like to fuck (implying the others aren't, lel) and paraded through the streets.

>>1089587
Yeah, and despite that constant barrage only 20 percent of women will even identify as feminist, meanwhile the MRA is becoming enough of a threat that feminists are beginning a desperate plea of But we're fighting for your rights too.

>>1089587
It was probably all the mass murdering just a craaaazy guess oh wait the Holocaust didn't happen zzz. Holy shit are you bored yet because I am, I'm even starting to feel bad for /pol/s who are just lolbertarians.

>>1089587

All you've told be is that you surround yourself with liberals.

>MSNBC, my gender studies professor, and tumble tell me that fascism is evil

>>1089621
Yeah but the feminist Jew Illuminati black liberal lizard people are out to get you, no seriously they are literally hiding under your bed now, go look.

Wow if you're not 100% full of shit you've proved someone can make tumblr look sane by comparison, congrats. Smart money says you're a tumblr troll though so who knows.

>>1089618
I was using gender as sex again, my bad. I'm not good with this vocabulary. Im fine with working with the trans in our movement, the more people fighting for the cause the better, and i do think they deserve better treatment and legal protection. I just dont feel that they're "one of us" yknow?

>>1089651
Kid, go take your medication. It's not health being that mad

>>1089626
Compared to the massacres committed under the umbrella of Bolshevism (of which the New Left, feminism, and progressivism is a part of) the Holocaust is nothing.

>>1089651

My rights end where your feelings begin!

>>1089665
>lel u mad
>kid get rekt
desperate/10

>>1089532
Id like to elaborate on my part about the gender binary: I don't mind people breaking out of their gender roles. Dudes wearing dresses and being all femmy, chicks who are lumber jacks and like hunting, that's cool, whatever. It just sickens me when they make it their whole identity or even try to make up pronouns (shudder)

>>1089652
check that privilege, anon.
but yeah, I get what you mean. It seems like the "people can love whoever they want" and the "people can be whatever gender (or not) they want" movements are really separate things and the LGBT+ movement is getting a little overcrowded and unfocused.

>>1089665
I'm not mad kiddo I just can't stop laughing. I have done this Nazi troll shit in the past though so thanks for the giggles. I thought it wasn't funny anymore but it's like the rake gag, it circles back to funny eventually. Being high helps.

>>1089651
What exactly is so crazy about anything he said? He's right. Feminism is dying, that's why their leaders are desperately propagating their ideology to gays and minorities through "intersectionality." It's also why feminist leaders have been desperately scrambling to silence MRAs in any way possible, because feminism cannot exist with an opposition. Their rhetoric is too weak and synthetic, their foundation is picked apart too easily because their framework is not based in logic or reason.

>>1087366 (OP)
GEE I WONDER IF IT'S BECAUSE THEY'RE ALL OPPRESSED GENDER AND SEXUAL MINORITIES HUH WHODATHUNK

>>1089732
Three of them are sexual and one is gender. The one we're discussing not belonging as much.

>>1089732
protip: everyone is oppressed.

The LGBTQ feminist Bolshevik alliance is designed to divide the lower class and middle so that they will never conquer true oppression, which is class oppression. Marx would have had you brainwashed little shits executed.

Your "patriarchy" narrative is incredibly naive and narrow-minded.

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Is this another "T doesn't belong" thread? seriously?

>We all violate gender norms. LGB people break one of the most fundamental stereotypes and expectations of gender.
>Sociologists categorize all of us as sexual minorities
>Familial rejection is a common theme
>As part of coming to a point of self acceptance, LGB and T people usually go through similar processes of denial, awakening, and eventually, hopefully, self acceptance.
>Marriage equality is an issue that belongs to all of us.
>Still all face discrimination in some places
>/lgbt/ would be shit without the T

If you still disagree, I'm sorry and it sounds like a personal problem that you should work out on your own sometime.

>>1089899

>/lgbt/ would be shit without the T

Yeah, because we really want PotC around.

>>1089899
Too bad they're still mostly unrelated because on is about sexuality and the other about gender.

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>>1089917
>implying we do too
check the bottom

>>1089931
Like I said, I'm sorry and your failure to comprehend that information correctly sounds like a personal problem.

Why does genderqueer get lumped in with transsexuals

>>1089932

Jesus Christ, how horrifying.

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Here, I made your image politically correct for you, OP, so it's not so depressing.

No need to thank me. :D <3

Never really been to /lgbt/
To much trans-shit

You guys really hate feminists?

>>1089972
Pretty much, yes.

>>1089978
Reason why?
Just curious

>>1089945

This version sucks.

Why is there no dead feminazi?

>>1089985
because being an oppressed minority doesn't mean you can't be a shitlord apparently

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>>1089985
Not him, but female oppression isn't really much of an issue here in North America. So it comes off as ungrateful as there are third world countries where women are suffering everyday.
And alot of it here seems to focus more on playing victim and attacking men than actual activism.

tl;dr leave feminism to the ones actually suffering.

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>>1089899
>Sociologists

There's your problem.

>>1089972

Everybody hates feminists, especially other feminists.

>>1089985

>Why would gay men, bi men, and transmen be opposed to a group of people who hate men?

Seriously?

They're the same reasons why everyone else hates feminists.

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>>1087395
>>1089945
>>1089998
Here, I made it even better.

>>1090011
4/10 got me to consider if you were actually that stupid

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>>1089945
No.

>>1090003
To be fair, a lot of the problems in third world countries can't really be fixed by westerners. There have been efforts to stop things like female genital mutilation but it really takes the support of the people in the country to stop it. While it's true that a woman being groped on a bus isn't as bad as a woman being stoned to death, it's better to try to stop one than to do nothing at all. It's like the Russia situation. No matter how many gay Americans complain about Russian law, it's not going to change unless Russia wants to do it. While it's good to protest the injustice in Russia, there's also nothing wrong with trying to secure marriage or adoption rights in the U.S. at the same time.

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>>1090011
There are many other reasons.

TERFs are my favorite people on the interbutte because the level of hate they have towards just about everything is hilarious.

>>The male-born are biologically incomplete
>>mutants, useless and obsolete; walking
>>viruses on two legs and a cancer, spreading
>>disease, death and destruction wherever
>>they go. They are the walking-dead and the
>>antithesis to life. Gyn-energy sucking
>>vampires who have to plug into women and
>>feed on them in order to survive. No different
>>than a parasite who sucks the life and
>>energy out of its host.

>>It’s way more than just pretend bodies for
>>SCAMs—these men’s minds, hearts and
>>spirits are nowhere near to what women’s
>>are. They can’t be, they never will be, and
>>the more they threaten and insult us, the
>>clearer it is to all women. It’s like they are
>>way beyond even most rapists, who want to
>>maim and torture and possess girls and
>>women… They want to completely eliminate
>>us, and particularly Lesbians, as a culture,
>>a people, as living beings. Like how the
>>women were replaced in the original
>>Stepford Wives and Invasion of the Body
>>Snatchers. Kill us and replace us with
>>pretenders.

>>Just say NO to pretendbian lady-sticks,
>>“new and improved” f-holes made of colon
>>and all the other insults and appropriations.
>>Just say no to culturally-enforced, sexist
>>“jendah” stereotypes, coercing baby dykes
>>and “effeminate” boys into transitioning,
>>media hyping of so-called “pregnant men.”
>>sexually-obsessed adult males being legally
>>enabled to invade women’s safe and private
>>spaces and the ongoing, accelerating
>>pornification of woman-kind.

>>1087395
Reminds me actually of the national socialists. They didn't come up with one idea of their own and ruined things for just about everyone.

Don't believe me? Well, in the so-called "radical right" or "new right" one could make up these little titles such as "national anarchist" or "preussian bolshevik". And what does that remins us of? The social justice warrior sthat also have these little made up titles such as "intersectional transgenderist" or "nonbinary relationanarchist". Yuri. Fucking. Cirkle. Jerk.

>>1087402
And that's why you have ideologies. Think of ideologies as christianity and tribalism as...tribalism.

>>1089972
There is only ONe thing I like about feminism...

It helped lead to the end of chivalry, that shit needed to go.

Just because you've got fish lips between your legs doesn't mean you should get special attention or treatment.

And fuck that women first BS.

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>>1090059
>pornification

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>>1090059
what the fuck am I reading?

I'm completely with you OP

I believe in the rights of transgendered people, just as I believe in the rights of blacks... but that doesn't mean they need to be lumped in with being lesbian gay or bi... it has nothing to do with sexual orientation. Each fight should be fought on it's own, you make better progress that way, instead of shoving every social justice cause on people at once, it should just be LGB... no TQIASupercalifragilistiexpeladocious

Stop trying to piggy back on us.

>>1090156
>equality is achieved through separation
You funny guy Anon

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>>1087366 (OP)
>>1090012
>>1089945
Fixed it for all of you

>>1089563

Because then life would be to easy

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I swear if they try to add one more letter onto the LGBTQIA acronym, I'm going to scream. It is so maddening and getting obnoxious.

>>1090173
That doesn't even make sense... he's wearing a rainbow shirt. The only way that picture would make sense is if that is a man in drag. Good try at trying to rustle the jimmies though.

>>1090173
Rather broad shoulders for a chick don't you think... no way in hell would he pass as a chick.

>>1087993
>j-just a minute jamal
Lost my shit

>>1090205
>homosex shirt with trans shirt
>even if trans fell under the rainbow it's still relevant because of those who want T out
I fail to understand how you fail to understand?

I really don't see how transgenderism has anything to do with homosexuality? It's rather insane to lump them together. It angers me.

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>>1090371

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>>1090173
Mine is better.

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>>1090398

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>>1089517

> Gay marriage is not equal rights, everyone has always the equal right to marry;
> When gay mariage becomes legal, straight people will also be allowed to marry same sex couples.
> Everyone will share a new freedom and it will be just as a equal as the former thing we called "straight marriage."
> ???
> profit!

This is why gay marriage is winning in land slides.

>>1089998
Because that is offensive and not pc.

>>1090478
Why would a gay man want to marry a woman though, you can't even consummate the damn thing. Thats just a sham marriage.

>>1090446
Can you shop out the poor dead girl. It distracts from the love of these men.

>>1090500

Uhh, gay men won't have to marry a woman, gay marriage is becoming legal?

Why not try /r9k/?

They hate feminism with vitrol and yet they are desperate enough to accept ANYTHING

>>1087402

What the everliving fuck. But this is exactly what feminism does. Declare that their """""problems""""" are worse than the real problems gays have. And commandeered control over them for their own benefit.

>>1088459

>Not understanding how the medical and psychological fields work.

>>1090021

What? A dictionary from 1874 can't save the very real realization that modern academic feminism is of the victim card and anti-reality variety.

>>1090524
oh god! S4S is like /b/ during the summer of 2009

>>1090540
No, that's what a vocal group of feminist do, and you've decided on your own to consider only them feminists, and those who don't fit your narrow view are "not real feminists".

>>1090614

Ah, no, let me bring yup up to speed. Wikipedia itself points out that equity feminists rarely consider themself feminists, and that academic feminists and feminist movements are almost all of the gender feminist and radical feminist variety. Anything that deviates from the narriative is declared not part of the feminist movement by these people. I don't care what some seventeen year old who knows nothing about whats going on calls themself. We're refering to who actually has the power.

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>>1090524
>>1090446
>>1090436
>>1090398
>>1090173
>>1090012
>>1089945
I've got you all beat!

>>1090628
>by these people
Exactly, by those people.

The same way religious extremists consider anyone who doesn't follow their strict interpretation of their religion as not being really part of their religion.

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>>1090652

>>1088766
>It is a man's duty to never be fully honest with a woman.

Do it faggot. Enjoy your untrustworthy status.

>>1088997

>the reason why bisexual guys don't tell people is because straight chicks think "bi guy = gay" and fags think "bi guy = straight but horny/desperate"

That's fine. Bi guys will not be trusted period. I don't care about them after they lied me a lot. I am done with them.

I am a fascist/national socialist and I hate degeneracy but I have nothing against homosexuality. Just don't be a faggot about it. Being effeminate and weird is an insult to your culture and a detriment to the nation. Who says you have to be effeminate and weird because you're homosexual?

I feel bad for MtFs because they are clearly depressed, probably retarded, and hopelessly brainwashed by an ideology that glorifies femininity, passivity, and the fetishisation of persecution. They're whisked into a movement of nonsense by degenerate lunatics, at a time in their lives when they are so confused and depressed by the current state of Western society that they never stood a chance of resisting.

>>1090722
>Being effeminate and weird is an insult to your culture and a detriment to the nation. Who says you have to be effeminate and weird because you're homosexual?

We pretty much have this conversation daily here.

Although I don't know if "being effeminate", aka, a raging faggot, is a detriment to the nation. It's just really annoying behavior, and is responsible for practically every single negative stereotype about homosexuals.

So it's more a detriment to the LGBT thing than it is to the rest of the nation.

>>1090722
There's nothing wrong with being effeminate. Being a huge flamer is obnoxious and /lgbt/ hates that too although not really from a "detriment to the nation" standpoint, more "wow these faggots are obnoxious and make us look bad."

>>1090754
>There's nothing wrong with being effeminate. Being a huge flamer is obnoxious and /lgbt/ hates that too although not really from a "detriment to the nation" standpoint, more "wow these faggots are obnoxious and make us look bad."

The problem is that flamers take all the obnoxious qualities of womanhood without any of the redeeming ones.

Gay men who are modest, maternal, cheerful, polite, well presented and domestic are lovely. They make the best type of bottom BF and they are pleasant to be around for everyone else.

But 'Flamers' are merely self obsessed sluts who need to be the centre of attention at all times. The stress people out and are generally douches.

>>1090509

But brosef the entire point of the picture and this whole "ship" is to masturbate to dead girls and jews and subhuman non aryan master race types.

I mean I don't believe these trolls are gay since they hate gays ("degenerate scum" blahblah) and wimmins and everybody too much to be anything but bitter straight stormfags. I just wish mods would just post a sticky in /pol/ marked /lgbt/ general for them to bitch about this bullshit for months on end over there. It's the same goddamn shit over and over ("I don't have a problem with gays and here are all my problems with gays" "hey don't you think T is a filthy mental illness and shouldnt be here" "hey don't you think B shouldn't be in there because they are scum sluts" "master race viking bullshit at least gays aren't jews or darkies you should join our nazi shitfest" "i'm a degenerate gay man just leik u and leik all gays mans hates myself and wants to spread the AIDS" *whacks off over Hitler* "you disagree you are jew lover brainwashed goyim hehehe"). The trolling is not even new or funny.

Or hell, sticky a /pol/ thread here on /lgbt/ to contain the crap. Why does this pre-Godwin's Law 1992 usenet trolling need to leak into every fucking thread on every board on 4chan? They have a place for their shit and endless conspiracies for a reason.

Oh and newflash: some fags are jews. Cute ones. I'll bet you nazi assholes whack off over that every night.

The problem with MTF is that they are basically flamers by default. Their behavior is inherently attention seeking. Their obsession is with how they are perceived. FTM don't seem to be as bad, for whatever reason..

I suppose it's because MTF assume that taking on feminine traits gives them a license to be obnoxious, loud and annoying. Yeah I'm generalizing, deal with it.

>>1090788

/pol/ is not going to go away, they are one of the fastest growing boards on 4chan and their influence is spreading throughout the boards in a pretty disconcerting way. Most of the Nazi stuff used to be trolling I think, or at least a very small minority, but /pol/ has been legitimately taken over by neo-nazi' in the past few months.

>>1090788
>annoyed that a /lgbt/ has crossover with /pol/, i.e. that /lgbt/ has a right wing segment that doesn't like transvestite retards
>makes up a bunch of shit that no one ever says for good measure

/pol/ is not invading. It's just board crossover. You don't decide what constitutes acceptable conversation.

>>1090652
What the hell is that thing? Lulz

>>1090916
This doesn't even resemble acceptable conversation. Honestly, it just resembles false flag trolling or twelve year old on break for the summer. No one outside of /pol/ actually thinks the Nazis had the right idea - that's pretty much the definition of waving your arms around and trying to get attention online. I wouldn't even mind if it wasn't so repetitive all the time. It's on the level of spam right now.

Jewish conspiracies and feminism have NOTHING to do with /lgbt/. 0%. Constantly trashing trannies is not what this board is for, either. You have a place to complain about blacks, jews, muslims, feminists, and whoever else you are convinced is ruining society. Constant race conversations have nothing to do with /lgbt/. Nor do rants about bolsheviks.

I would feel the same if /a/ came over here to argue endlessly over which weeaboo series is best, or /v/ or /co/ or whatever, under the thin auspices that they think a character in one of the stories might be gay. This is not the place. I hope eventually a sticky or some other reasonable method will solve the problem, or that it resolves on its own.

>>1090928
/lgbt/ polls have revealed quite a few NatSoc/Fascist faggots

"Jewish conspiracy" is another word for multikulti/cultural marxist agenda, which has a lot to do with /lgbt/

If you don't see how feminism has a lot to do with /lgbt/ you are a retard

What constitutes an acceptable opinion on trannies is not up to you to decide, and no one is even invading MtF threads (even when they are posted every five seconds)

Much like the (phantom) shitposting you decry, your reactionary crybaby shit is what creates real problems. People like you get an ounce of power and needlessly ban all thoughtcrime with a wide brush, or you don't get any power and you never shut the fuck up as a result.