>kids are too young to have sex because they don't understand sexuality
>but kids can know they want to suck off men at 7

Fag logic.

I mean, most kids are sure they're straight by this age. It's not /that/ weird.

>>745385
>implying liking men means only liking men sexually

>>745388
Are you retarded? Most boys don't want to fuck girls in elementary school, they're icky.

>>745396
>Homosexuality is a sexual attraction or sexual behavior between members of the same sex or gender.

cy@ kid

Who cares what the kid calls himself. I wanted to be a bus driver when I was 7. Doesn't mean I'm one now.

>>745398
>>745404
So you're saying that girls who want to marry a prince want to have sex with him at age 6 or so? Gay =/= sexuality, it also includes romantic attraction

>>745359 (OP)
To be fair OP, you and him kinda do look and seem like faggots

I was a flamboyant toddler

>>745398
I did. boys and girls both motherfuckers.

>>745418
You're retarded. Girls read books about marrying a prince and are conditioned by a culture to think so. They obviously wouldn't want to marry some guy and suck his dick. Kids aren't attracted to anyone fuckhead, a 7 year old saying he's attracted to men makes no sense.

>>745385
attraction=/=being sexually active

>>745398
but they still know that they like girls.
And straight girls already know that they like guys.

And if it turns out he's wrong, then he'll just start dating girls.

If it was a young kid saying that when he grows up he'll have a hot model for gf you wouldn't have given a shit

Homosexuality is historically tied to pedophilia, OP. It's not surprising that homosexuals are fine with this sort of thing.

>>745432
I didn't say they wanted to suck his dick. What I'm saying is that kids CAN be attracted to people on a very shallow level. However this kid is probably just choosing this as an identity because there's no way he'd know for sure who the hell he likes at that age

>>745443
>However this kid is probably just choosing t
oh, so you can read minds now.

>>745434
>If it was a young kid saying that when he grows up he'll have a hot model for gf you wouldn't have given a shit

He would only be saying that because people around him were like "YEAH BRO REAL MAN BANG MODELS EVERYDAY". He didn't arrive at that conclusion on his own, much like the kid in the OP image.

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>if you disagree with my political views, I'll violently assault you

The sad thing is that people would probably cheer him on, they actually believe that much that their zealous political correctness is right and everyone else is wrong.

>>745446
Notice I said "probably," suggesting that this is a guess based on experience

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>>745452
>He would only be saying that because
that's retarded bro. He didn't arrive at that conclusion on his own

Ignorance is not a basis of an argument.

Kids don't need others to tell them what they are attracted to. They can be influenced in HOW they express it, but not in what they feel .

Sure, most kids would not really be aware of it and may mimic what adults do, but in that case it's just parroting and there's nothing to worry since it'll go away growing up.

But regardless, kids do feel attraction, it's not sexual like in adults, but they can like other boys/girls, and be aware of it.
If your argument is that it's impossible, then you're simply ignorant.

>>745452
But....that's the point. It's no different than that. Why is it accepted for a kid to have straight identity put on him but not a gay one? There's nothing wrong with being gay. If he isn't gay, he'll figure that out when he's older. Just like a gay kid has to figure out that he isn't straight when he's older.

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>>745491
>waaaah ur argument is ignorant because it hurts my feelings

Come back when you actually have something to say, kid.

>>745511
>It's no different than that.

They're both wrong. Kids shouldn't be pressured into mimicking adult sexual behavior.

>>745511
because muh tradition muh zionist conspiracy muh religion

it's just a knee jerk reaction to something that he's been conditioned to not like.

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>>745525
>if people disagree with me they're conditioned
>if a kid at 7 wants to guzzle male cum he's not conditioned he's just being the special snowflake human being that he is

I bet you think you're so progressive for spouting pop culture talking points.

>>745519
no, it's ignorant because it's based on your ignorance(lack of knowledge) about sexuality in humans and how it's expressed, and in the particular case in children.


>>745519
>They're both wrong. Kids shouldn't be pressured into mimicking adult sexual behavior.
See, this is your ignorance at work again.
Kids learn by observing adults. And they learn about sexuality too.

And furthermore, romantic attraction=/=sexual behavior.

Nobody has been telling this kid about how to have sex.

So, again, you are full of shit, and lack fundamental knowledge in the areas you are trying to discuss, flaw that makes your observations based on flawed reasoning and uninformed.

kids shouldnt know what sex is until 18

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>>745547
>bla bla you are so ignorant for disagreeing with me god im so right im gonna go le circlejerk on reddit's lgbt board about how BACKWARDS minded ppl still r in the 21st century wow

Still waiting for an actual argument, bud. A young kid with an overtly adult heterosexual identity who talks about how he wants to cum inside models when he's 7 is just as bad.

>>745555

>Welcome to America

>>745555
No, kids shouldn't be overtly homo or heterosexual until they hit puberty.

>>745542
>guzzle male cum
that's what's in your mind, not in the kid's.
I would call you a poor troll if it wasn't for the fact that people as retarded as you really do exist and post in this site.

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>>745565
>still no argument

1-0

>I would call you a poor troll if it wasn't for the fact that people as retarded as you really do exist and post in this site.

Head back to tumblr where your type belong.

>>745561
>overtly
stop making an ass out of yourself.

OPs some closet red neck fag that thought everyone would agree with him.

If the kid thinks he gay, who cares? Is it wrong for a kid to know what being straight is? Of course not, same for being gay.

this picture is several years old now

i wonder if the kid is still gay

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>>745572
>this mad because he lost the argument

>>745574
>everyone who disagree with me is this racial stereotype that the democratic party told me about through social media

This is like the nazis painting the Jews responsible for everything bad in the Weimar Republic.

>>745359 (OP)
>Netherlands
There's the problem.

>>745584
>>this mad because he lost the argument
what argument? you didn't present any.
You just made a bare assertion- that is you made a statement, without proving it, but merely claimed it to be true, and on the basis of the statement you made you built your argument.
Which is based on nothing.


well, good thing we're done with this.


>>745574
>OPs some closet red neck fag that thought everyone would agree with him.
nah, it's just some bored kid who is trying his hand at internet debating.

>>745584

Looks like OP's another victim of identity politics.

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>>745593
>still no argument
>well, good thing we're done with this.

At least you're not a sore loser.

Children should be aware of their own sexuality until (at least) hitting puberty.

unrelated, but while I'm busy being right:
There are only Two genders. Two. Transgender is just a phase, a male becoming a female, a female becoming a male. Once a male becomes a female, they are no longer male.

Good-day.

so children are blank slates

>>745626
No, they're genetically programmed to be heterosexual. There are some fuckups on the genetic level, and they turn out gay.

I wouldn't take kids seriously for their sexuality until they're in their pre-teen years. This kid is only 7

>>745751

Thank you for being the only sensible person ITT thus far.

What you're all missing is that it really doesn't matter. The kid probably has some child level attraction to males, is aware of the concept of sexual orientation and has therefore deduced he's gay. Whether or not that will hold true remains to be seen, but there's no need to make a big deal out of it in the meantime. All the situation requires is for the parent to positively acknowledge his feelings, neither affirming nor oppressing those feelings, whilst privately taking it with a pinch of salt and letting the situation develop naturally. If he grows out of it, or if it's just some stupid thing he said as a kid - fine. Sheesh.

>>745621
transgender isn't a third gender
but how can you be "right" about something that's not even scientific anyway

>>745465
See, this is the thing that gets me. The image gives me the impression that his mom is some retarded feminist who is going to excessively reinforce his affirmation (which is hard to believe with in the first place, how often does a 7 year old proclaim "Yea you know what, I can't relate to the norm of sexuality. I'm interested in other boys romantically/sexually") just because

>we have to be a part of a political movement now!

It's not fair at all for this boy to be some kind of poster child for homosexuals whether he's gay or not.

Guys, I don't think the point is that he's gay. The point is that he told his parents something that is considered wrong, and his parents supported him, and didn't shame him or try and change him.

Yo, just be proud of the little fag-baby.

If my seven year old son told me he was gay, I'd probably smother him, if I you really loved him you would do it.

>>745359 (OP)

>dat file name

OP confirmed for boy pedo who projects his self loathing on to adult homosexuality.

>>745846
>43 posts, hes a pretty decent ruseman who leaves clues in his work for it to be admired later.

>>745359 (OP)
>Taking pride in their cihldrens characteristics.
>Seven and 'openly homosexual'.
>'Hurt anyone who kills his spirit'.
I hate humanity.

>>745827
>Guys, I don't think the point is that he's gay. The point is that he told his parents something that is considered wrong, and his parents supported him, and didn't shame him or try and change him.
'I like sticking dicks in my ass, THANK YOU FOR NOT BEATING THE SHIT OUT OF ME OR SENDING ME TO CONVERSION CAMP OR DISOWNING ME!'

>>745954

Dude, its his freaking son. Its pretty natural to have defensive instinct to protect your child. Are you some sort of aspie?

>>745398
I had a massive crush on a girl in 2nd grade. I didn't know what sex was but we kissed and as far as I'm concerned I knew I wanted to romance girls and not guys. So fuck you.

>>745359 (OP)
what's wrong with that? hopefully they'll turn him into a qt girl

>>745578
You, man. I like you.

>>745635
This is a response to your comment.

Oh motherfucker, I can't even look at that picture without throwing up in my lap.

I never wanted to beat up a child until I saw that picture.

>>745770
I'll admit my first reaction was not a positive one, but it was much more aimed at the parent than the child. I don't feel a person should encourage their child to develop a sexual identity until they are at least around puberty (maybe 10-11). However, upon reflection, the parent wasn't saying, "I am proud my son is gay!" it's more to the effect of, "I'm proud my son is confident enough to express a controversial identity; I will support him and fight anyone who tries to discourage him." And there's nothing wrong with supporting your child. Like you said, if he is gay, he'll figure it out later. If not, he'll figure out what he is. And the parent will support him. That's actually a good thing.

>>746174
Oh look next edgy summer kid. Why do you want to beat him? For what?

I knew I was gay at 7, and I'm still gay at 27.

But I also had a lot of friends who would like, marry boys one day and a girl the next. This kid could still turn into a filthy fucking breeder.

>>747722
That faggy gay smile on his kid face? What else would it be?
I don't get it. Is it because he's gay that he thinks he needs to act like a fag? That just creates all the more problems with gay people.

>>747774
>breeder
Go back to the 90's

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I'm a straight guy and I didn't like girls when I was 7 either.

I don't believe that anyone can experience true sexual attraction until puberty, and without having experienced that one can't accurately label their orientation.

That said, if the kid wants to believe that he's gay for now then I don't see the big deal. It's not really any different to how most kids believe they're straight, because they're just following the societal norms they see around them. It doesn't have any bearing on the end result; kids grow up to be what they're going to be. The only problem with expecting them to be one thing or another is that when they don't conform to that expectation they then have to go through a "coming out" process; from that standpoint it's better just to view kids as a blank canvas.

It always amuses me when some gay people like to rewrite their history, to the point that they're declaring that they knew they were gay when they were a fetus. "When my mother tried to breastfeed me I turned my head away, because I just knew that boobies weren't my thing!" *Roll-eyes*

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The only wsy for him to kno www if he's really gay is if he gets fucked by a guy. I'll do my civic duty and volunteer.

>>747900
>That said, if the kid wants to believe that he's gay for now then I don't see the big deal.

The problem is his parents taking a picture of him, slapping a 'my kid is gay' message on it and posting it on the internet.

Very young children who are queer or trans always seem to have crazy attention whoring mothers who are fucking them up.

>>747900
that's all well and good, but now his parents have gone around stamping gay on their child in public, all well and good if he remains gay, but if it actually does turn out to be a phase (and at that age It's not very far out of the question at all) he might feel a lot of unnecessary social pressure, and it'll only get worse the older he gets due to how shallow some people are when dealing with fluctuating sexuality.

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Make him move in with grandpa. I'll make sure he gets some panties his size.

I'm not a parent but an excellent observer. My friend's son was seven, all last year. He says girls are icky, and has no concept of what straight & gay are. If, at 7, OP's kid has "identified", maybe he just realizes he's more effeminate, not into tough guy sports, something that is not considered "straight", says I'm gay because maybe he thinks that's the way things work. Shit-maybe he watched that Modern Family episode and decided it would be cool. Who knows? I've seen plenty of slightly effeminate guys who are straight--once they understand sexuality. No one understands sexuality at 7. Op is encouraging and that's cool, but maybe it's best to talk about these things when the boy's body actually begins to send him signals about who he's got a crush on. Or has he expressed anything about a crush yet? Hmmm..For me it was about 11 before I figured out I had crushes on both, and that it affected me more than wanting to punch someone in the shoulder and run away laughing. If it were me, I'd seek family counseling (not a head shrinky thing, just private family counseling), just for professional guidance. But then maybe that'd give him a complex. Fuck, OP, Good Luck.

Yeah, whoops, not OP but the parent of the poster kid, good luck

>>747918
>>747923
Agreed.

Yeah whoops, the parent of the kid--good luck, Oh and maybe yes, tone back the attention seeking it won't help

>filename

Also, what's wrong with candy asses? Would make rim jobs a lot sweeter.

>>745434
>attraction=/=being sexually active
You missed a word.

>sexual attraction=/=being sexually active
The point still fucking stands though, you can't argue that your child has sexual identity and then complain that he's too young for sex. What the fuck?

The kids just camp. When he grows up and goes through puberty, maybe then he can start talking about whether he's gay or not.

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>4chan puritans getting upset that kids can be attracted to each other.

>I knew I was gay at age 8.
>Came out at 12.

*scrolls past thread*

>Mom is a feminist
>Raises her son on a steady diet of Glee and Brave
>Doesn't let him watch anything with a strong male lead because that would only enforce oppressive and archaic binary-enforcing gender roles
>Seven year-old starts saying he's gay because to him "gay" is like being a firefighter or an astronaut
>Mom thanks almighty Goddess that her son won't turn out to be an oppressive cishet lord of shit
>Starts encouraging and reinforcing this new behavior
>Kid likes the validation and keeps saying he's gay
>Mother threatens anyone who doesn't approve with physical violence

Feminists should be sterilized.

>>748665
why are you here?

>>745359 (OP)
>prepubescent boy has a crush on a prepubescent girl
Awwwwwwwwww!

>prepubescent boy has a crush on a prepubescent boy
MUH GAY AGENDA!
MUH REVELATIONS!
MUH END TIMES!

>>745432
Women have been attracted to power since before the medieval times. Your view is wrong and you are an idiot.

>>748665
>mfw this is the bogeyman /pol/ believes we all are

You people are overreacting, and pretending as if kids don't get crushes on one another before puberty to do so.

I kissed my crush on the lips when I was like 5. I had like 3-4 "girlfriends" (Holding hands, hanging out often, doing kid stuff, kissing on the lips all puckery and crap) before I even hit middle school.

I have no doubt in my mind that a homosexual kid might be romantically attracted to another kid of the same sex and the concept is not akin to pedophilia whatsoever. Just because homosexual has the word "sexual" in it, it doesn't mean they have to have sex.

Fuck, you people are stupid.

>>748776
This

Jesus, kids gets crushes. Sometimes boys get crushes on boys. Get over it.

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As a gay male I'm going to go ahead and say that's just not on. Who questions a 7-year-old about his sexuality anyway? Keep that shit on the DL until you're older homie.

>>748805
But muh values!

>>748832
We call it "sexuality", but it's also romantic attraction that is implied when one says that a person is gay/homosexual.

What's happening here is fearmongering media playing on semantics to scare idiots.

>>748778
>since before medieval times
Replace that with "since the beginning of our species"

>>748798
>>748805

The issue isn't the kid it's his parents.

A little boy having a crush on another boy is harmless.

Taking a photo of your son, telling the world he is queer and congratulating yourself is wrong.

It's also a indication of a social trend, feminist mothers fucking with their kids gender and sexuality to score ideological points with their feminist friends and bask in reflected glory.

>>748834
>But muh values!

Shit reddit says pls go.

>>748842
Yeah but at the same time this kid is like 7 nigga he can't make that judgement call, he probably still thinks girls have cooties. I'm sure if you explained homosexuality to any boy when he's 7 he'll say he's full homo because girls are icky and boys rule.

>>748851
And here I thought /lgbt/ would be full of tumblrcore social activists and faggots.

>>748848
Yes, I know, but the person was referencing princes and the like, like the idea of women marrying into power was an invention of novelists and disney.

>>748853
>implying it's not just fearmongering muh values idiots that stir up this ruckus over literally nothing
Shut the fuck up faggot.

>>748859
>Yeah but at the same time this kid is like 7 nigga he can't make that judgement call
Stop projecting your inept childhood onto others.

>>748889

>Trying to justify social justice wankers using their children to score points in the media.

>>748871
People from /pol/ usually do, which is why they troll here pretending to be tumblr social activists to manufacture their own rage material.

>>748901
>Trying to justify the public traditionalist outcry that this is the most evil thing in the world that will corrupt all children and bring about the end times
A short-sighted parent said they have a gay kid on some bullshit social media site and media fearmongers were the ones that picked it up and ran with it, turning it into this epic debate over LITERALLY NOTHING. KIDS WITH CRUSHES.

This is what you are defending right now, you moron.

>Boys and girls can have crushes on each other at that age, but if a boy says he's gay it's obviously The Liberal Agenda
Yeahokay.

>>748912
>epic debate over LITERALLY NOTHING

No one disagrees that kids should be allowed gay crushes. But we do disagree that parents should be posting this shit over the net for Reddit upvote points.

This shit is happening more and more often, and it's always feminist mothers who are doing it.

They hate boys and they actively encourage behaviour like this because it's part of their sick ideology.

I'm a gay man and I want kids to be comfortable with their sexuality, not be pushed into by women who hate men.

>>748859

I agree totally and stuff like this bothers me. Its one thing for a boy to say he likes boys.

But "Gay" is a political, cultural identity, and people assume its for life and tied to a lot of things.

The problem is there is no moderate voice or identity among the same-sex oriented crowd. There is one view and it is internally enforced ferociously.

If I say that homosexuality is harmless and fun in youth but not something one should commit to as an identity and lifestyle, I will be called self-loathing. If I say teens should have a place to turn that isnt acting as a recruiting arm of the donor racket, I get called an Uncle Mary.

Change has to come from this generation. It's simply not sustainable. As years pass, I see more and more free minded same-sex youth questioning the paradigm their elders built for them to be born into and sensing something is deeply flawed but cant quite articulate what it is. It almost got some traction in the nineties but got shouted over.

>>748972

... Understand, homosexuality has been around forever. In practice, society has never had as much a problem with it as the things that can emerge from it, and its stuff like this, even when they rail against it in theory.

At some point, we have to define an equitable norm. Telling a kid that he is imagining things when he decides he's Superman but that his grade-school fascination with being a girl needs an entourage of support personnel is socially reckless, and we need to be able to say so without the most insecure, strident elders immediately accusing of us of betrayal and, god help us, actually believing it. The justified paranoia of generations past cant be the guiding star of the 21st century, and has no place here.

There has to be more choice, and this generation has to spit out the kool-ade being rammed down their throats since grade school and demand a new choice of balance. I'm sick and tired of seeing youth be given a false choice that insists the priorities and interests of a teen-ager or college age guy must define his options for the rest of his existence.

>>748960
>feminist mothers who are doing it.

fucking nailed it.

I would like to introduce a term of perspective though. I think if we define feminism as fair treatment of females, we can agree thats a positive thing. This is what I would call ultra feminism, because it is basically french for "anti-male".

Ive seen it, and it is ugly and frankly a light shade of sociopathic.

>>748981
>baaw trannies

stopped reading right there

>>748981
>There has to be more choice, and this generation has to spit out the kool-ade being rammed down their throats since grade school and demand a new choice of balance.

This is kind of an issue for me as well.

These days the paradigm is that people are 'born gay' and their sexuality is fixed in stone forever. So labelling a person straight or gay at and early age can really fuck them up later on in life.

Part of the reason for this is gay politics. If being gay isn't a choice then anyone who asks gay people to 'stop being gay' is a bigot. But by making that political argument they screw over every one who isn't 100% het/gay.

Is she sending her kid to public school? Because if so this should be considered child abuse.

>Take your son's picture
>Slap a message across it stating "lol he's gay deal with it h8rz"
>Post it on the internet

How to get your kid bullied to death in three easy steps.

>>748960
>kid is gay
>HE MUST HAVE BEEN PUSHED TO THIS BY A LIBERAL FEMINIST MOTHER
>HE COULDN'T POSSIBLY HAVE COME TO THIS CONCLUSION ON HIS OWN
How self-hating ARE you, man?

>>748972
>it's one thing for a kid to say he's gay
>but he better not say he's gay

>>748960
>No one disagrees that kids should be allowed gay crushes.
>allowed
Kids have gay crushes whether it is socially allowed or not.

>>749011
The entire core of the problem is the fear and hatred of gays. Also, the denial of the existence of bisexuality by everyone from the religious establishments to scorned and butthurt gays themselves.

>>749058

You are making the mistake of confusing the social term 'gay' for the observed pragmatic aspect of males liking males in whatever context.

There has been a lot of effort made so that you do just that and never think beyond those terms. So when someone like me suggests a broader view, you feel your perspective is being attacked and respond negatively.

Youre seeing it in real time. The same thing is happening to this kid. He decided he likes boys. This could change. Maybe he will like both. Maybe as time goes by he looks at his values and decides it was a phase. It isnt likely, because he has now been pulled into an idea that will use his future teenage sex drive to extract a term of identity that people use for life, and the path of least resistance is to not re-evaluate options.

So now the kids is hung with 'gay'. I dont care that he likes boys. I dont care that he would likely have decided this in his late teens anyways. What bothers me is that this child made an observation which his parents translated into their social views and boxed him into an idea that young. Its not fair to the kid.

And no, it did not necessarily have to be an ultra feminist mother. There are plenty of clueless parents, women who want to be seen as trendy and women who just generally have a grudge against masculinity with no political oriented notions attached. Someone once said "Never attribute malice to things that can just as easily be explained by incompetence.

>>749065

see

>>749136

We cant discuss this in a context where you insist that all same-sex attraction is equal to all things incorporated in the term 'Gay'. If you cant broaden your perspective to factor childhood inexerience with life and terminology set by adults as well as the endless ocean of same sex ephemeral attractions and activity that do not conform to the frankly intransigent definitions of how society defines 'gay', then we cant discuss something that requires concepts you wont accept as possible.

As it is, I have to go for a while now anyways. I hope I have civilly and clearly articulated a broader basis for thought or discussion.

>>749136
You are making the semantics mistake of overgeneralized conflation and projecting it onto me, and the rest of society, to justify zeroing in on gay kids of liberal parents.

>looks at his values
>decides to be gay or straight

Is this honestly your argument? A kid "chooses" or "decides" to be gay during some arbitrary point of social impermanence, but then, after your universal made-up checkpoint of dichotomous straight/gay decision-making, the kid suddenly stops "choosing" and becomes manipulated to be gay by liberal society or "clueless parents" or "women who want to be seen as trendy" (or, what you're actually trying to say here, Feminists)? I mean, why stop there? Why not just say all of homosexuality is a product of societal manipulation and the liberal agenda like other conservatives? Why hide behind these elaborate semantics?

Also, why do you see a kid being gay as an immediate and direct snipe against men and masculinity as a whole? That's an absolutely ridiculous view, especially if you're a gay man yourself.

Looks like someone's read a bit too much into Androphilia.

>>749181
You absolutely refuse to admit that what society labels as "gay" is synonymous with what society means when they say "homosexual" for the purposes of your pointless semantics argument that selectively chooses the politically correct way to be intolerant to homosexual behavior and the parents of homosexuals for somehow inherently indoctrinating their kids to be gay for being proud of them when they say they're gay.

You automatically assume cultural indoctrination and some grand social conspiracy, and that shows your blatant bias.

>>749136
>kid says he's gay
>kid is proud to be gay
>parent posts it online
>INCOMPETENT PARENT
>THEY SHOULD HIDE THEIR CHILD'S SINS

The "they will get bullied" argument is retarded, as kids bully for literally anything and everything. That nonsense is simply an excuse to continue to foster shame and an abiding sentiment of "different and bad" for simply being a gay kid. It provides an endless self-justifying font of general social disapproval for homosexuality, and thus allows a sort-of open-season for childhood social ostracisation for kids that are gay, or bi, or whatever to continue into the new century.

This very outlook that it should be hidden, shadowy, and cloistered is why kids continue to get gay bashed and develop into self-hating faggots who become people like you one day, relics of the past, just like the aging queens at pride parades.

>>749313

"Mommy! I put Timmys wiener in my mouth at recess today in grade school and it was fun!"

"Well son, you may only be five and dont even know where babies come from, but it sounds like you want to shape your life now around a specific sexual identity. Let's not talk about bisexuality and just move on to getting my PFLAG membership. Where's my checkbook?"

Yeah, you sound that retarded. You're the socially dangerous sort of gay that is incapable of concieving of anything more important that furtherance of the one thing you are most insecure about over all other matters. You are what people are talking about when they say gays have no family values. Because your idea of family values is centered on the demand that marriage and family be a right to gays and nothing to do nor even a thought or passing interest it what it actually means to have a family. Gay vengeance against anyone who questions limits.That above anything else, even a kid having choices. You are the gay monster society hates and drags the world down for the rest of us.

this is bullshit kids just don't KNOW this type of stuff at that age.

anyone that thinks kids have sexual matters like orientation figured out might as well have open pedophila legalized today.

fucking degenerate homos.

>>749366
>"Mommy! I put Timmys wiener in my mouth at recess today in grade school and it was fun!"
pedo pls go
Childhood crushes do not automatically mean sex you sick fuck.

>"Well son, you may only be five and dont even know where babies come from, but it sounds like you want to shape your life now around a specific sexual identity. Let's not talk about bisexuality and just move on to getting my PFLAG membership. Where's my checkbook?"
Are you absolutely insane? Just because you can't see being gay, as in being romantically and/or sexually involved with someone of the same sex, without focusing solely on post-pubescent sexual acts doesn't mean the rest of the world has to.

A boy has a crush on another boy. That's gay and that kid is BEING gay, displaying homosexual behavior, whether you like it or not. If the kid turns around and has a crush on a girl, that kid is being bi, displaying selective homosexual behavior. The "sexual" suffix merely denotes their assigned sex, male or female, not specifically sexual relations you sicko.

Stop making this a political conspiracy or some sort of sick focus on child sex when this is simply a statement of fact about non-sexual, prepubescent romantic attraction that happens.

It's called kids having crushes, fucking pedos.

This whole thread is fucking hilarious. I knew I was gay at 10. This kid is probably gay. He could find his sexuality is broader as he grows up, as most of us do. And if he does, great. Reddit memes don't cement your sexuality. Your parents thoughts on your sexuality do not change it. Anyone who tells you that they never had any sort of sexual or romantic musings as at least as pre-teen are liars. Any adults who tell you that they are "confused" by their sexuality are lying. You know what you like. You just don't want to admit it because of societal pressures. Both sides of this "argument" are at the heights of autism.

>>749366
>wanting to be married and have children with the person you love as a gay person means you have no "real" values
>being gay married with children means you don't understand what it ACTUALLY means to have a family, which is only attained through having a god-fearing American heterosexual household
>anyone who disagrees is a vengeful gay monster who wants to destroy the lives of children

This is how psychotic you look right now. Are you actually gay or just another tourist on the board who decided to prosthelytize against strawmen and bogeymen?

>>749537
>Childhood crushes do not automatically mean sex you sick fuck.
You consider children sucking other childrens dicks a crush?

>>749591
You were the one that brought up the hypothetical kiddie dicksuck party when we were just talking about kids having gay childhood crushes, pedo. Keep your sick shit to yourself and stop trying so desperately to project it onto others.

>>749609
Who brought it up is irrelevant, are you saying kids who suck other kids dicks is just crushing?

>>749620
>Who brought it up is irrelevant
>totally not the guy who brought it up in the first place i swear!

>are you saying kids who suck other kids dicks is just crushing?
I say that's homosexual behavior. It could result from a preteen homosexual crush and kids playing doctor or something, as kids sometimes do. But why are you so focused on kiddie sex when people are obviously not even talking about that except one guy trying to prove a fallacious point? It's fucking creepy and I honestly don't even see what sort of diluted message you're trying to prove here.

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>>749672
If you don't calm down I will hunt you down and suck your kids dick bro.

>implying samefag
I didn't know ignorance and unfounded hate made people stupid.

>>749700
I honestly don't understand why you're so smug about not only admitting to be a pedo but admitting that your argument against the acceptance of gay kids is entirely based on your inability to see an innocent childhood crush as anything but some lewd pedophilic fantasy of yours.

>>749762
>innocent childhood crush as anything but some lewd pedophilic fantasy of yours.
Well maybe because I've had plenty of sexual encounters with children; as a child. So if anyone here has experience to talk about what is and isn't an innocent childhood "crush", it sure as hell isn't you. You're nothing but ignorant.

>>749776
>Well maybe because I've had plenty of sexual encounters with children; as a child.
>So if anyone here has experience to talk about what is and isn't an innocent childhood "crush", it sure as hell isn't you.

"Crushes" do not automatically mean, nor lead to, sexual relations (even as an adult), even though you claim to have personally been some sort of flaming child Casanova, you idiot.

You can't even consider the concept of holding hands or innocent displays of affection among children without the implication of sex. That's kind-of sickening, anon.

This thread is a great example of fag-brain.

Fag-brain will insist that people are retroactively same-sex attracted even before they are attracted to the same-sex or have even thought about it.

This is necessary to support the "born that way" argument or the whole gene argument falls to pieces. In other words, you are gay before you are gay.

Notice they already have decided he is gay. He only becomes bisexual AFTER he expresses an interest in girls also. By default, they WANT him to be gay.

It's also among the reasons fag-brain hates the concept of identifying as bisexual. It confounds the whole narrative. Because a bisexual chooses who he has sex with, and it may not be a male. That choice frustrates them. So they must constantly shriek their hatred and denial that it exists.

Because if bisexuals are CHOOSING who they have sex with, then whats the point of outing them? All you have done is show that people make choices about their sex life.

And if that isnt blasphemy among fag-brains, what is.

>>750317

... Nuance and variety is a threat. Homoerotic, incidental same-sex, heteroflexible, bisexual... these are variables that mean nothing to fag-brain. They all translate to homosexual, and that must mean gay. So if you are homosexual and could give two shits about marriage or military service, you are self-loathing. Fag-brain insists that if you have had some same sex romps, you fit a term of lifestyle and politics, and you damn well better get busy supporting it or you are a traitor.

Fag-brains resent that society tends to look down on open homosexuality. They know they dont choose their attractions but do choose how they pursue their sex life. So rather than take responsibility for making the choice to announce their sexuality, which is fine, they feel no one should think they have any choice. Knowing its a lie, they concoct bullshit stories about pre-pubescent kids being gay because they need that sense of predestination and determinism to excuse their actions in contrition to society. They want to announce their sexuality (fine) but feel it is unfair that society makes a poor judgement of that choice, so they claim there was no choice at all. They need an excuse, because whether they admit it or not, they feel bad about the consequences of that choice.

Theres nothing wrong about choosing to be open about your sexual preference, nothing at all. But dont make up batshit crazy ideas like toddlers are same-sex attracted just because they have crushes or dont do well in sports. Youre just reinforcing the same dumb-ass ideas heteros have with the same words to a different tune.

>>749700


Thank you for exposing the dipshit who mis-called same-fag when I left as a psycho so I didnt have to put up with him and try to have a convo with an obvious mental case only to find out I was dealing with a disturbed maniac five posts later. I would have been disappointed trying to discuss something only to realize I was wasting my time with an aspie of immeasurable magnitude

>>750340
>>750324
>accuses gays of relegating homosexuality to a lifestyle or political view
>relegates gays to a lifestyle or particular view or else they're "fag-brain"

If toddlers are same-sex attracted, that is homosexual behavior. If they are also opposite-sex attracted, they exhibit selective homosexual behavior, also known as bisexual behavior.

Homosexual behavior is called gay.

If a kid is acting homosexual, as in being in a same-sex crush type of situation, they are acting gay.

To say that your kid is gay means that they exhibit blatant homosexual/gay behavior. If a parent called their kid "heteroflexible", or whatever the fuck pointless special snowflake neologism you feel like referencing, you'd be just as up in arms with pseudo-conservative fervor.

Your argument is pointless, and over semantics, when you don't even understand the semantics you're arguing about, nor the weight behind them.

You're the one who is conflating the queer political platform to literally being queer, and a childhood crush to adult sexual relationships, then you're projecting it onto everyone who calls a gay kid gay, as if it is some grand political conspiracy to sexualize kids for the sake of progressive activism.

You seem to take personal offense to this. I assume it's because you feel that identifying homosexual behavior as gay, and not attributing some form of new-age transheterobigendersexual word to it, somehow edits all of the edgy, non-conformist queers who "don't need no binary" out of the picture. Stop being a such faggot. Jesus.

Boy likes boys, he's gay. Boy likes boys and girls, he's bi. Boy likes mostly boys and sometimes girls, he's bi. Boy likes mostly girls and sometimes boys, he's bi. Boy likes girls, he's straight.

It's really that simple. Fuck your special snowflake bullshit.

>>750324

>contributing to society =/= having kids or raising a family.
>Homosexual = same sex attraction. Whether you are bisexual or "heteroflexable" or it happens incidentally. It is a part of your overall sexuality.
>Nuance is not a threat. Having people not see you as a real human being is a threat.
>I speak from experience when I say I knew I was gay from a very early age.
>implying all gay people "pursue their sexlife" in the same way, or that they should be looked down upon for however they choose to do it.

Wow. Just so much... wow.

>>750453

The act of sex and the recognition of gender as sexed are not the same thing. Homoerotic if sexually oriented, homophile if non sexual. Buy a fucking dictionary if you're going to lecture bullshit.

Second, 'gay' is contrived label to describe people of a certain lifestyle. It is not one moment a synonym for all homosexual encounters and the next moment a label for a subset of non-heterosexual people of a specific ideology. Trying to conflate them is the same tired notion that anything involving same-sex is therefore to be included as gays. Inmates are gay. Toddlers playing doctor are gay. Bisexuals are a type of gay. A drunken dare gone intimate is gay. Its obvious attempt to claim greater numbers on the premise that the more people who are 'gay' the more confident they should be in their social standing.

In closing, every fucking post made in this thread that echos your lack of thought, I am officially calling troll or so retarded and juvenile that its no longer worth responding. There is no discussion occuring, just some moron shouting into the web his frustration with realities he cant grasp, and Im done being either trolled or trying to quiet the infant bawwing, because its not a discussion, its turning into a class and I dont feel like teaching special ed kids today.

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I knew I liked boys and girls when I was 8 though I was gay because gay meant you liked guys (no one said you didn't like girls!) but the word bisexual I did not discovered till I was like 13/14.

why has this thread not been pruned yet

>>750520
You're a idiot, and I'm glad you won't be posting anymore. That said:

No one is saying that childhood encounters or prison sex CONCRETELY DEFINE someone's sexuality. BUT THE ACT ITSELF is INHERENTLY HOMOSEXUAL. The term "gay" as a description of a certain lifestyle, and not sexual intimacy between same-sex peoples, is only used by uneducated people and/or assholes. You come off as one of those people who sucked a dick once and hated yourself for it. And now you have to do mental gymnastics to deny that homosexuality isn't part of your overall sexuality.

>>750520
>The act of sex and the recognition of gender as sexed are not the same thing.
Yes I know this, which is my point. A kid can be homosexual/gay (same thing. same fucking thing anon) and not have to have sex or be sexually attracted to someone to be homosexual/gay, and also not have to be a part of the political activism world of fag semantics and fag politics you're trying to force on these literal children.

Next you conflate sexually desperate bisexuality among prison inmates (selective homosexual behavior) with young prepubescent gay boys who blatantly like boys and not girls, which is fucking GAY.

It's gay anon. Gay. G-A-Y. Boys liking boys and only boys is gay, and there is literally no amount of special snowflake queer politics fuckery that you can pour out of your sad little asshole that can change that social reality.

I'm sorry the real world makes you seethe and whine so visibly. It's unbecoming and rather pathetic. So go cry into your floral pillow of pansexual gendertrender bullshit and fuck off, you insufferable faggot.

>>750520
>Trying to conflate them is the same tired notion that anything involving same-sex is therefore to be included as gays.
And you want to blame gays for that? Like people won't start calling you a faggot for even wearing something pink.
If a bi guy is thought of as a fag and gay, it's hilarious that you want to blame the evil fag-brains for that. Maybe bisexuality would be more present in people's conciousness if bisexuals weren't such fucking pussies to begin with.

>>745359 (OP)
>yfw strangers on the Internet disagree.

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>>750686
>mfw