What is the most LGBTQ friendly gaming system/company? You know my vooooooote
Electronic Arts™ always cares about tolerance for sexual minorities. All complaints about their games come from entitled homophobic trolls, because the games themselves are great! I, for one, can't wait for Dragon Age 3™! #H8IsNotAGame
Just take one look at Yoshi's face!
>inb4 tumblr fujoshit complaining about Yosuke>inb4 "problematic content">inb4 debated over NaotoAll that matters to me is Kanji.
>>15314That marketing ploy made me sick.
>>15624So hot, making me hard in front and wet in back
>anything but Square Enix
>>15624not to be bioware or anything but I do hope that persona 5 has gay options (and male/female MC options)
>>15314I enjoy this post
>>15705>not to be bioware or anything but I do hope that persona 5 has gay optionI do to man. I loved P4 but god damn did I want an option to date Kanji or Teddie. It even felt like the game was dangling Teddie in front of me the entire time. Had to just settle with Naoto which is fine.
Arguably Bioware.However it's important to understand that Bioware inserts incredibly hamfisted gay romance in their games simply to pull more sales, they have all the grace and understanding of a lobotomized elephant.One can also argue that there's some shit in bethesda games but it's mostly expanded via user mods so...Mostly the problem is that a character sexuality in a video game isn't really important most of the times, it's the devs that should be smart enough to figure out how to make it relevant to a scene or overall theme, and present it in a tasteful manner, so far i don't tink there's a single studio that managed to pull it off.
>>15680What are you talking about? Square has more transgender/genderqueer characters and hero/heroines than any gaming company could every dream about. The whole Final Fantasy series is like a rerun of Real Sex: Transqueers episode on HBO
>>14983 (OP)The ones who don't make sexuality part of their games.
>>15820Stop being silly.
>>15665you secrete juices from your anus?excuse me?
>>14983 (OP)Sorry, but could you remind me what gay things Sega has done?I can't think of anything at the moment other than Bayonetta, and that was obviously just as a publisher.
>>15886happens when you eat too much mexican food
>>15771nevur gon' hapan
>>15886maybe its backsweat
>>15903>nevur gon' hapanYou're breaking my heart anon.
>>15314EA actually is one of the best places to work if you're LGBT.
>>15989Also if you don't have a soul and kill infants in your spare time with a baseball bat.
>>15886As a angsty bottom I tend to get tense back there leading up to the act. Can be a little embarrasing if a dinner goes on for a while and then I leave with a wet circle on my jeans, but since I shave my asshole it actually helps to get things going when the jeans come off.
>>15989>EA actually is one of the best places to work if you're LGBT.Programmer here and I'd never work for those pricks. They use LGBT rights as a shield for criticism since they've done fucked up shit like "Ass Effect" and "Sexual Molest a Booth Bade for Prizes!"
I guess EA/Bioware since they're the only company that really discusses homosexuality at all.But let's be fucking blunt, EA doesn't care about gay people, or people in general. They just think playing the "SO PROGRESSIVE" card will make people more willing to give them money.It's no coincidence they did that "HATE IS NOT A GAME" campaign right after the hideous blunder of the new SimCity. Damage control at its finest.
>mfw Blizzard has done a better job putting gay characters into WoW than Bioware did with SWTOR
>>16113>gay characters into WoWRun that by me again
>>15989And one of the worst places to work if you consider yourself to be a human being.
>>16108I'll never forgive them for shitting up DS3.We were so close having a good trilogy, DS2 was just the right balance of action and horror, all they had to do was to pretty much make DS2 2.0, but no.Fucking bastards.
>>16134>Martek the Exiled in the Badlands (bisexual)>Anren Shadowseeker and Tholo Whitehoof in Hyjal (gay)>Ann and Marsha Stockton in Pandaria (lesbian)>Every Night Elf female ever (bisexual)>Koltira and Thassarian (pure fanwank, but dear God the subtext is heavy)Meanwhile in SWTOR>gay characters cost an additional $19.99
>>15900You have been reminded. The logo of their second most popular console is obviously a play on the societally acceptable male female symbols with their circles and crosses. You can't really get any more queer of a system than the Dreamcast.
Who gives a fuck?The second they start pandering to any minority they are dirt.
>>16095Regardless of the reasons it's still great that they're doing it when so many others don't or do it as well.http://asp.hrc.org/issues/workplace/organization_profile.asp?organization_id=487&search_id=1&search_type=Quick>all those bennies
>>16232>This guy murdered like fifty cats. But it's okay cause he throws bones to the neighborhood dogs.
>>16232Don't care. You couldn't get me to work for them. And don't act like they're the only people to have anyone who's gay in their games. You're delusional.
>>16232So are the EA shills taking a break from posting on /v/ due to the /vr/ shitstorm or are you seriously this fucking retarded?
>>16232EA is doing more to hurt the LGBT community with their pandering than helping, and they don't care so long as they can use us as a shield to deflect criticism.
>>16222wut?>>16231This, I fucking love pandering to any part of a fandom, it just ruins it and reduces creativity.
>>16257Let me know when the people not murdering cats give full health benefits to same-sex partners and cover all transgender-related health issues.
>>16232Give it a rest, nobody likes EA, /lgbt/ is no exception.They don't "accept" jack shit, they just use it all as an excuse.
>>16232>Regardless of the reasons it's still great that they're doing itIt's fucking horrible that they're doing it.They're turning gaming into yet another avenue of fucking politics. Without that it's a predominantly male safe space.
>>16322Is this nigga serious?
>>16214You can arguably add Kanji from P4 on the list. Dude seems pretty bisexual to me. Also there's what's his face from P2 but I can't be bothered to remember his name.
>>16309I disagree. That's like saying pride parades "hurt." Oh no the straights are uncomfortable.
Sure is EA marketer in here.
>>15989>Any videogame company>Good to work forKeep eating those lies, goyim. The entire industry is terrible.
>>16377>That's like saying pride parades "hurt."They do.They make the rest of us look like filthy deviants.
>>16377Pride Parades do hurt the gay community. They're practically the only point of dislike i've ever heard regarding gays from non-bigots.
>>16377>That's like saying pride parades "hurt."Pride parades hurt everyone because they're a freakshow that doesn't really help anyone, gay or not.
>>16377Gay pride is a way of saying "Fuck you and fuck the closet." That's different from saying, "You can't say our shitty, DRM, DLC addled games are bad because WE LOVE GAY PEOPLE!"
>>16402Apparently Valve is pretty good to work for.Though it's impossible to get a job there even if you're incredibly qualified.
>>16419I don't think they've ever quite phrased it that way.
>>16460Of course EA wouldn't phrase it that way. That would expose their criticism deflection agenda.
>>16460The pandering is just damage control.The day after the huge shitstorm over Sim City 3, EA uploaded a Youtube video pandering to LGBT, trying to gain some favour after their massive fuck up.
>>16460BULLSHIT, they went on full damage control with DA2 and ME3 especially, calling everyone that hated the games bigots instead of just plain admitting both those games had huge problems and were halfassed to hell and back, all while shitting out DLCs to cash in on them.They're scum, they're the lowest of the low, the ground zero of human evil.
>>16460Remember when people got angry over Mass Effect 3's ending and EA deflected it by saying it's because people were homophobes?
>>16346Boys, boys, please calm yourselves>>16318Hey, it always reminded me of a really nice long cock going into really tight space. And as for the controller VM's (memory card), they always had both male and female connectors so you could combine them like, well you can see for yourself in the pic
>>16402Anyone transgendered should definitely consider working for EA just so they don't have to pay for a bunch of shit out of pocket. Consider it like bleeding the beast.
>>16502Funny that since the gay option was the usual "LOOK HOW FUCKING GAY I AM" stereotype Bioware uses and the lesiban option played out like a cheap Cinemax porno.That right there is EA's idea of progressive storytelling.
>>16502>>16498>>16492>>16491Guys you are being trolled hard. Now who is your vidya husbando?
>>16498>>16502I'm gonna need direct quotes because I don't quite remember them phrasing it that way.
>>16557Because they have zero experience in homosexual relationships, they don't know how the fuck they work.Actually they plain don't know how relationships work, doesn't matter if they're homosexual or not.They just go HEY BABY WE FUCK NOW OK.I can't think of a well done relationship in any of their games, maybe a couple of them in DA1?If we're being generous.And regardless that's likely because they still had a couple of writers worth half a shit back then.
>>16649fujoshit please leave
>>16582Varian Wrynn
>>16594http://www.rockpapershotgun.com/2012/04/05/ea-responds-to-hate-campaign-from-homophobes/Shortly after being voted America's worth company they play the tolerance card. Obviously they're not dumb enough to say "You can't say our shitty, DRM, DLC addled games are bad because WE LOVE GAY PEOPLE!" but they love to play that card when ever some bad PR crops up
>>16757Malfurion was mine but then he became manbearchickenthing.
>>15771>>15705
>>16363>kanji >WoW
>>16827Go away Minato you have door duties.
>>16787That's not >calling everyone that hated the games bigotsor >people got angry over Mass Effect 3's ending and EA deflected it by saying it's because people were homophobes
>>16884Here's my question to you: why do you even remotely care about defending EA in any way?A company that is almost universally hated.Do you have personal interests in this?Someone you know works in EA?
>>16582
>>16884Do you not understand subtext? They're implying the hate over ME3 and DA2, the big reasons they were voted the worst company in America, is due to homophobia. And look now how EA are again pushing diversity when Sim City is blowing up in their face.
>>16944I like the way they treat their gay and trans employees. They spend a lot of extra money on them that other publicly traded companies don't whether game inudstry related or not.
>>17103They've only started doing that in recent years when the hate for them has substantially increased.
>>17103I can agree that's good but I still don't like them. I don't like how the shit they pull out of their ass is hailed as progressive yet one of my favorite games is "homophobic filth" to fujoshits.
>>17103If you think that the gay cause is worth anything, you shouldn't support EA. They actively exploit gays in order to have a cheap crutch in marketing and PR, to help push out their deliberately shit mass marketed games from franchises that used to mean something. Absolute amoral incompetant greedy scum.
>>17130And US Senator Portman only recently decided to support gay marriage because he has a gay son. Works for me as long as the result's the same.
I'd mention the guys who made Swordcraft Story, but I haven't played any other games by them so I can't really say.
>>17103Do you really think that's worth selling your soul to a company that openly exploits gay rights to cover up for their shitty games?That castrates what little creative talent they have, forcing them to make their games shittier and shittier in order to captivate the COD audience?This isn't a company that cares about gays and trans, this is a company that exploits them.
>>15989EA it's one of the worst place to work in the video game industry.every employee that ever leaked interview and stuff confirmed that.it's a terrible place and this board should hate that company.
>>15680
>liking EA because they pander to gaysget your shit together /lgbt/.EA used you to look progressive and make bioware sell more games.and i am not making a tinfoil hat claim, just go on /v/ and they will hand you the articles on the petition EA subscribed for gay rights, right when theyr ME3 was so disappointing that the entire internet was laughing against them."disregard haters, they are just homophobes! buy our games, we have gay romances RPG and segregated but equale gay planets!" it's pretty much EXACTLY what happened.>but in the end they still gave us attention and made gay charactersdo you like to receive attention so much that you accept even the false and money-justified one?they didn't make videogames better. they forced romances ina game that isn't supposed to be centred on fucking sex stories. no matter if gay or hetero.
>>17331I can understand not liking them, but hate is really not worth harboring a community that is supposedly so much about love and acceptance. Are they greedy bastards who overwork employees? Sure, but no need to HATE a corporation that isn't polluting the planet or giving people poison drugs.
>>17640>just go on /v/If you're like me and are sane and don't want to associate to that shitstain of a board, no, you don't need /v/ to "confirm" this, EA is a shithole even for people outside of /v/.
>>17717If you love video games, you don't dislike EA, you HATE EA for everything they've done.Depends on how much you truly love video games.
>>17717>Sure, but no need to HATE a corporation that isn't polluting the planet or giving people poison drugs.There is however a reason to hate a gaming company that's helping to destroy the gaming industry. Suck a dick fujoshit.
>>17736you can go on google if you want to.but /v/ is able to write a book on EA. i doubt anyone on the internet can hate them more.
>>16679>>17841Seriously you need to get the fuck back to /v/.You're a demented child and we're actually trying to have a discussion here, you're way out of your league or natural element.
>>17640They used bots to sign their petition, too.
>>16881
Why did Bioware ever hook up with EA?
>>17640From /v/, and gay, and anyone that follows vidya knows what's up. EA are fucking assholes.
>>17910>Seriously you need to get the fuck back to /v/.I'm not from /v/. You shouldn't associate everyone who dislikes EA with /v/.>You're a demented child and we're actually trying to have a discussion hereI've been in here all along having a discussion with you but your "discussion" isn't much of a discussion. It's trying to get us all to agree with you or declare us not gay/bi/whatthefuckever.
>>15705>Japan in charge of having gays in games that aren't comic relief and extremely effeminateKeep dreaming.
>>18011Money, resources.
Anyone who says EA and accounts this to their games and "activism" is pretty blind. EA's "gay friendly" games are pathetic attempts to pander to the gay audience for quick bucks, notice how they've been riding that horse harder than ever since they've been sinking out of public favour? That shit is more offensive than it is oppressive and anyone who celebrates their games for that sake either doesn't actually care about video games enough to know what's actually up or is an EA marketer.
>>18016This. EA's actions are pretty much the poster child for dickishness and complete disregard for their customers. They've pretty much the perfect example of what is wrong with the modern gaming industry. The manufactured outrage or the attempt to defend against bad business practices by branding those people criticizing them homophobic is disgusting and detracts from actual issues of homophobia, such as the horrific abuses in African countries. So they're basically shitting over everyone here.
>>18016You have no idea what the fuck you're doing.You're just shouting "fujoshit" at random, you've called>>16649"fujoshit", when he was discussing how EA can't into relationships in their games, that doesn't even make sense, you're using the term like a /b/tard would shout "nigger" at random.
>>18023>Japan in charge of having gays in games that aren't comic relief>Implying Kanji was comic relief
>>18124I meant to write progressive where oppressive is, there.
>>18023>>18163The comic relief role of gays in japan, both in games and in other forms of their media, isn't to insult them, but rather a way for them to be integrated with minimal risk.This is changing in recent years however.
>>18163>implying kanji was gay
>>18163Kanji's shadow was pretty funny, but that's because it was flamboyant as a motherfucker and that's kind of hard not to find funny.
>>18163He was pure comic relief. There's his shadow, and oh, have you forgotten all the times where Yosuke goes omg your gay!
>>18235>>18281He's very clearly bi, he comes to terms with it during the game, it's unrelated with Naoto's gender, it's also unrelated to his shadow being mostly comic relief.They use the comic relief excuse to talk about the issue and explore it a bit, see>>18223It isn't even remotely the first time jap devs do this.
>>18244He just wanted someone, anyone, to accept his fabulousness.
>>18281>Expecting Yosuke to be accepting when he's a comedic retard who assumes shit and usually gets it wrongPlease don't get your panties in a twist, it's a realistic reaction, these are schoolkids, of course they're going to act that way, they still do.
>>18319
>>18223Yeah but can you call one character in a group of teens that mock each other THE comic relief character? When I think comic relief I think of a character that has no other purpose in the game.>>18235I only said Kanji because he posted a SMT pic. I was assuming so sorry.>>18244>that's kind of hard not to find funny.>>18281>There's his shadowA projection of his inner feelings of how other people perceive him. You might want to learn a bit of Jungian psychology.>have you forgotten all the times where Yosuke goes omg your gay!No I haven't but the people who bitch and moan about that forget that a teenager acting more mature than their age IS a bad thing in writing. Look up a manga series called wandering son. One of the biggest criticisms of it is the kids in the story are too mature over the topic of transsexuality.
>>18392Well it is kind of hard not to find funny.Being flamboyant is funny, I ain't about to take someone who walks around with a strut squealing HEEEEEEEEEEEEEEY seriously.They're having fun so it's fun to have fun with them.
>>18392>>18352>Yosuke doing it is fine because he's a teenagerIt is fine, but it doesn't change the fact that the issue of Kanji's sexuality still is basically comic relief for all characters besides himself.
Shanghai Alice. Touhou practically radiates lesbianism.
I didn't really mind Yosuke because he was your typical teenaged retard.And because the game kept punishing him for it.
>>18502The point isn't that kanji and his shadow aren't funny, the point is that his character (and his shadow) aren't created 100% to be funny and that's it, a character can have a comic relief side and still be explored, in fact it's more graceful than going balls in and alienating the heterosexual audience that is playing the game, that's the whole idea behind this kind of decisions.
>>18023Megaten Mara is female thoughAnd Atlus certainly didn't make Jun comic relief
>>18532Is that not somewhat realistic?Okay stick yourself in a teenage schoolboy's shoes in 2008, people being gay is still seen as a joke because these people are childish, you cannot expect these characters to act like adults about this because these characters are not adults.I swear to fuck people who criticize characters for reflecting traits that are found in real life, even if they're not positive are killing writing. Characters need this shit to paint a realistic world to give room for people to grow in as real people to make for a better story.
>>18532>Kanji's sexuality still is basically comic relief for all characters besides himself.Name one besides Yosuke? I can remember Rise saying "Hey Kanji that was great for you" but that's more a stab at him being thick. Yu never did becuase you control him, Naoto never did, Yukiko never did, Chie never did, and Teddie was Teddie.>>18616>a character can have a comic relief side and still be exploredThis. I don't think anyone whining about him ever did his social link all the way. So many feelings from it.
>>18616Okay I totally agree with you on that, I wasn't sure what you were trying to dig into.
>>18617But anon they're evil srant eye piggu who hire gay men to be the lead in Super Hero shows they loved as a child while America still hasn't done anything like that.
>>18617>Megaten Mara is female thoughI think that stops mattering when she's a giant penis>And Atlus certainly didn't make Jun comic reliefThat's right, he was just effeminate, although I don't see anything wrong with that. However, it's not like his sexuality was ever brought into question by anyone in the game, it's simply not discussed at all.>>18692>Name one besides Yosuke?That's because the other characters don't even bother commenting on it. Yousuke is pretty much the only one that actually reacts it, and I'd rather have that than simply ignore it like with Jun. I'm not saying the entire game should have been adventures in Kanji's sexuality, after all that's what his Slink is for.
>>18734Wasn't there recently that cartoon where the protagonist turns into a female superhero by mistake or some shit?Done by australians.I think that's crossing that line and then taking a boat all the way to the other side.
>>18617>And Atlus certainly didn't make Jun comic reliefNeither were Angel or Seraph for that matter. Though I'm not sure they really count for the purposes of this topic.
>>15314>Electronic Arts™ always cares about tolerance for sexual minorities.>>15989>EA actually is one of the best places to work if you're LGBT>Implying they give a fuck about their customers and their people
>>18795>and I'd rather have that than simply ignore it like with Jun. I'm not saying the entire game should have been adventures in Kanji's sexuality, after all that's what his Slink is for.Well then anon I totally agree with you. Also I remember a few moments where you could pretty much tell Yosuke to shut up or make fun of him.
>>15314God. That made me so goddamn sick. They actually went there. Why would you do that, EA?
>>18831The problem is their sexuality is not a topic of discussion at all in the games, so why bother.
>>18810No idea but I remember reading about Kamen Rider Blade's actor being gay. As much as people have a hate boner for Japan they do have some rather progressive moments. I don't recall any Iron Man, Batman, or Captain America being played by a gay actor.
>>18831Probably not.I-it's kind of hard to find people that still discuss DDS though, now it's always Persona this or Devil Survivor that...
>>18920Once you reach the bottom the only way down is to dig.I think the big dogs at EA realized they're pretty much seen as the nazis of the video game industry and pretty much went "fuck it, let's go all in" and are now actively pissing off as many people as humanly possible.
>>18984What?We have generals in /vg/ both for persona and for older games.
>>18984Haven't played DDS but I'm playing through Devil Summoner. Oddly Raidou is somehow a gay icon in Japan.
This is currently the main semi-nice thread on all /lgbt/, makes me wonder if this board would be better if it was all focused on gay discussion in video games.
>>19022I stopped going there a few months ago>>18960Japan's kind of bizarre when it comes to that. They have a decent number of comics and shows have serious or supportive views on LGBT, even ones from all the way back in the eighties/seventies, but the society as a whole still rejects them or treats them as a joke.
>>19099Raidou is just a rad motherfucker, everyone wants to either take or give the dick to rad motherfuckers.
>>19125>but the society as a whole still rejects them or treats them as a jokeSorta, there's some progress here and there.
>>19125>Japan's kind of bizarre when it comes to that. They have a decent number of comics and shows have serious or supportive views on LGBTI think Japan is just bizarre in general.>>19157You have a good point anon. He does have an awesome hat.
>>19099DDS is a lot of fun. I didn't like the second game that much when I played it but thinking back at them the amount of Hindu lore and character development was fantastic.>Oddly Raidou is somehow a gay icon in Japan.Everyone wants to give Raidou the D. It's going to be scary when his action figure comes out, I'm sure some guy's going to post videos online of him blowing a load on it.
>>18960Does it really matter that the actor is gay? I think making a point of him being gay is pretty offensive, he's just an actor, not a gay actor, and people aren't straight actors, either.If you can act the part then sexuality doesn't fucking matter.
>>19107And apparently it's also filled with gay fatlus[spoiler]oh gosh[spoiler]
>>19234Well. quite a lot of people still can't see gay as manly,cool,powerful or whatever.
>>19234>Does it really matter that the actor is gay?In a sense that he was the first yes. In a sense of does it affect the quality of the show? No it does not. I was just stating that Japan has it's moments>>19231I forgot about the Raidou figure.>I will never have a Kanji and Naoto>Yukiko gets severla figures that shelfwarm hard while Naoto gets nothing despite being the most popularMy rectum is ravaged
Whoever produced Morenatsu
>>19234I think we should save such a discussion for the LGBT Movies/Shows thread.If such a one exists.
>>19304It's kind of nice to be able to discuss Atlus games without any meme spouting or waifu wars
>>19350Also this. Teaches kids that it's okay to be gay and yadda yadda. Although I do feel bad for any kid who's hero was Blade. He showed up in some gay porno and I imagine that's mentally scarring to see your hero in a porno.
>>19385Oh step it the fuck up, there's two million gay porn vns, with bears or twinks or traps or furries or anything you want.Whopiefuckingdo.
>>19374>Naoto >Most popularI think that title is Chie's actually, or Yukiko, one of those two.
>>19445Nope.
>>19350>>19424I don't really want gays to be automatically = manly.I just want gays in media to be normal dudes that can have good or bad things going on for them, not always a comic relief, a negative character, or a forced "hey i'm just like the heterosexual character i swear!1!!"
>>19409All my argument is that it shouldn't be considered a "moment" in a society which is already pretty progressive. They picked the dude best for the part, hopefully, it shouldn't be viewed as a "Oh he's gay, that's an opportunity to take some pity." or to earn some brownie points.He got picked because he could play the part, NOT because he was gay.
>>19486>I just want gays in media to be normal dudes that can have good or bad things going on for themKamen Riders aren't usually "manly". Here's Philip from W for example.
>>19473Well shit.
>>19547Kamen Riders were all about the manliness back in it's youth, but now among audiences metro styles have gained a lot of popularity so the actors are, no surprise, applying to that popularity.
>>19473>Self insert-kun is number 1>Junpei not even on the list>Eleven's confirmed for shit taste.
>>18959Really because that's always been my issue with gay characters in media. That is always their biggest characteristic. I can think of very few gay characters where it isn't a huge deal story wise that they are gay.
>>19538>"Oh he's gay, that's an opportunity to take some pity."They didn't do that with the guy who played Blade at all. They didn't even know until after they casted him for the role.>>19587True the Riders of old were more about manliness but I wouldn't put Blade up there with Stronger, 1/2, or V3. Also yeah Philip is mostly there for women but no reason I can't enjoy it.
>>19473I'm surprised Akihiko is so slow. Hell, I'm still surprised people like Adachi so much.
>>19420Don't tempt fate. I'm sure there's one lurking in the wings somewhere.
>>19587Japan always had an appreciation for androgynous beauty, this is really nothing new.
>>19420But what about [spoiler]husbandos[/spoiler]I'm sorry...>>19486>I don't really want gays to be automatically = manlyI understand, I was just talking about movie actors and such, as the protagonist usually is a manly looking guy in superhero and action movies, and people still can't comprehend the idea of them being gay>>19595It doesn't have to be the defining aspect of a character's personality, but completely ignoring the fact they're gay/bi doesn't help either
>>19595You ought to play a game called El Shaddai, if you haven't already.It's a game I'd legitimately claim to be a valid candidate for the "games are art" argument.But that's just because it's fucking beautiful and the music is amazing.
>>19625>Hell, I'm still surprised people like Adachi so much.I think it's because they can relate to him.>>19747>It's a game I'd legitimately claim to be a valid candidate for the "games are art" argument.I'd honestly throw P4 up there on that list. It's such a wonderful experience and that's what art should be. An experience good or bad.
Here's how you make a game with a gay protagonist.Make the next Gears of War protagonist gay, but don't bring that up.The whole game is the same as usual, manliness, testosterone everywhere and shooting, murdering, the protagonist is trying to save his love interest, but he never specifies the sex of it, neither does any other character.Then have a scene where he saves him, they have the stereotypical hero-has-saved-the-love-interest and they embrace and kiss, then he needs to get the fuck out because the place is exploding or something.And then the rest of the game is just him making his way to the big badass boss of the game while his love interest is safe somewhere else, and it really isn't brought up again.Done.After the initial "what the FUCK" reaction in the first months you have a game that can cash in on the gay thing, while not being insulting to the gay community.
>>19747I don't own a console anymore. Sorry.
>>19747And SotC and Journey, i fucking love everything about Journey.
>>19595
>>19811I'm not really so sure on Persona 4, I'd totally put money on Persona 2 though, but because of that game's age and thus understandable aesthetic contrast to P4 it'd probably just get written off by a lot of people.
>>19747I have that on my list of PS3 games to buy if I ever actually get a PS3, along with Nier and some other stuff. I'll probably get a PS3 later this year when the new Jojo game comes out.
>>19922Right, however more than "subtle" he was "poorly explored and developed" period.
>>19969Nier is awesome but only if you have a lot of patience.Before Nier one should explore Drakengard, that's also awesome but only if you literally have the patience of a buddha, as the gameplay is absolutely horrid.
>>19969Does your name begin with a T?Also yes Nier is fucking amazing.>>20009What this guy said too.
>>19963>I'm not really so sure on Persona 4That's your opinion and I can respect it. Game meant a lot to me going through high school and the bullshit that goes with it. So I'm biased a bit.>I'd totally put money on Persona 2 though, but because of that game's age and thus understandable aesthetic contrast to P4 it'd probably just get written off by a lot of peopleI wouldn't say a lot of actual Persona fans write it off. I think 1 has aged horribly but 2 is fun for completely different reasons than 4.
>>19963I think Persona 4 is a lot more accessible to mainstream gamers compared to other Megaten games, and same with Devil Survivor. But at the same time they're also more anime-esque when it comes to their storylines.
>>19922He was a very good character. And Tommy from Indigo Prophecy was great as well. All because they didn't go LOOK THEY ARE GAY LOOK AT US LGBT SAVIORS MAKING VIDEO GAMES. Hell I'd rather have Rockstars flamboyant gays to an EA saviors of homosexuality any day.
>>20055>I think Persona 4 is a lot more accessible to mainstream gamers compared to other Megaten gamesIf you have a Vita then you have access to all the Persona games. I'm pretty sure there's some other SMT titles on there as well. DDS and Devil Summoney are the ones that are harder to access.
>>20037Nope, it starts with an M but I don't really socialize outside of 4chan so I doubt anyone on here would know me.>>20009 I'll have to try it out too. I might be able to stand the gameplay, I played Chaos Wars just because it had a lot of videogame characters I liked in it. I could probably take on anything after that...
>>17261That's so different Senator Portmen cares for his son and wants him to be happy. EA doesn't care about us they just are using us as a means to an end.
>>20145Drakengard has one of the best protagonists in a rpg ever.Caim is how you make a main character that is a total murdering sociopath and at the same time doesn't come off as edgy or tryhard, but genuinely unsettling.
>>19747Just saying, El Shaddai is one of my most favourite DMC-style hack and slash games. Not because of the actual gameplay, that's pretty middle-of-the-road, but how everything comes together. Were it just the base components on its own, I probably wouldn't enjoy it as much, but it really is a game that's greater than the sum of its parts.
