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http://usatoday30.usatoday.com/news/opinion/forum/2011-08-03-gay-marriage-civil-rights_n.htm

How do you feel about black conservatives denying that the LGBT rights movement is morally equivalent to the civil rights movement? And now the LGBT movement also trying to close the path to equality behind them so that they're the last ones through.

Is it the feeling that whatever the provocative new rights movement is might endanger the relatively recently secured rights of the last group to fight that fight?
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Conservative Black Americans need to start focusing on their own pretty hellish communities before they start taking shits on others, which also includes their own.
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I actually think they're right because the LGBT movement is nothing like what the civil rights movement was and LGBT people do not find themselves in the same situation today as black people did 60 years ago or so
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>>201376 (OP)
>And now the LGBT movement also trying to close the path to equality behind them so that they're the last ones through.

wait who are we trying to close out of the path to equality?
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>conservative blacks
You mean the tiny percentage of blacks in America? Last time I checked they were they voted as a giant block and it was almost all liberal, and they largely do not support gay marriage.
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that is a really good article, by the way. it's true that the systemic discrimination against black people and their widespread suffering and the movement against it isn't quite the same as with lgbt civil rights stuff
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>>201417

Pedosexuals.
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>>201376 (OP)

No gay people I know is making that comparison.

STOP WATCHING TALKING HEADS ON THE NEWS AND THINKING THAT'S HOW IT REALLY IS.

Marriage equality is a right and so is an end to any form of discrimination. I can say that without invoking the black struggle against jim crow laws.

SEE
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>black people
>relevant
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>>201412
This. I can understand them being annoyed by those suggesting that it's the same.
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There is no equivalent.

Denying someone something based on "skin color" is not the same as denying something based upon an association or perceived sexuality.

Your better argument would be that it is similar to gender bias or sexism. Sexual orientation is not outwardly visible. It is only known through identity, and that can be faked.
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>>201441
I wouldn't call it not the same, more like less severe.
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>>201446

Wait your turn. Poly marriage, then incest, then zoosexuals, THEN you guys.
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The way blacks were treated in the 1960s does not resemble what the LGBT community is experiencing, and you should slap yourself for saying something that stupid.
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>faggots getting hosed down at protests
>faggots having seperate resturants
>faggots being beaten down, as blacks where, reguardless of gender
>faggots being segregated
>faggots found dead in the streets and nothing being done about it
>people openly calling faggots "faggots" in a way to hurt them emotionall without any remorse at all
>the media talking shit about faggots
>special faggot bullets used to nutralize crazed faggots
>police beating faggots for fun and never getting in trouble
>ACTUAL FUCKING LYNCHINGS


i swear to god you faggots are crazy if you think you have any fucking claim.

>i'm black
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>>201487
But you're still denying something. It's still discrimination. Whether or not someone can immediately be identified as belonging to the discriminated group is irrelevant. If
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>>201446
Oh god, not all this "I should have a right to fuck other people's children" nonsense again. Children aren't even autonomous citizens, they don't even have full rights under the law.
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>>201436

What do you mean m8? most blacks are very socially conservative
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>>201376 (OP)
It'll be fine. Prop 8 won't pass. Even assuming it does, once the baby boomers die off a revote will kill it. I just had a fantastic argument with a girl who is harboring a black man's child. When I made the point that interracial marriages were banned under the same arguments she immediately jumped to her christian faith to defend it. When I brought up some Bible verses that allude the sin of interracial breeding she called me a racist and my facebook was flagged. I'm straight and pursued the argument just to get my rocks off. But really, what in the fuck do radical Christians think they're accomplishing?
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>>201525
>give blacks the right to vote
>give gays the right to marry
>give children the right to fuck
Stop oppressing them.
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>>201523

>Being denied the right to vote, the right to education, the right to the same healthcare as everyone else

>Being denied the right to marry

pick one
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>>201525

But in the 1950s gays were likewise not able to consent under law because it was considered a mental illness, which impaired their ability to consent to sex.
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>>201542
I didn't say it was anywhere near as bad, just that it's still discrimination. What are you getting at?
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>>201542
>The right to marry and receive medical coverage, tax breaks, COBRA healthcare, and the same liberties that you have.
Fixed that for you
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Bayard Rustin, a prominent civil rights leader, was also gay

and so was James Baldwin and others.

So go fuck yourself OP
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>>201523
Yes, both are forms of discrimination, and a punch and a stab are both forms of violence, that does not mean they are equivalent.
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>>201412
B-BUT ITS OKAY TO CO-OPT A RACES' STRUGGLE TO FURTHER MY OWN AGENDA BWAAAAA
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>>201376 (OP)
I think it's laughable given that my main man here organized the march on Washington and liked to fuck men in his spare time.
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>>201561
aw yeah, feel the mad
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>>201511
No, but we were burned at the stake and had hot, iron rods shoved up our assholes. Just look up what happened to Edward II after he was outed. I would rather be lynched any day.
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>>201523
I am denied shit all of the time. I will never get married. I will never find a boyfriend. Fags hate me. They laugh in my face.

Where is the sympathy for me?

I cannot even choose to commit suicide because of discrimination against mentally disordered people. Only people who are deemed to be mentally capable of making the decision to die are extended the right.

Who is suffering more? Me, guy who is alone and cannot even seek help to end his life for fear of being institutionalized, or you?
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>>201376 (OP)
ah now I see
gentlemen we're beginning to see the frantic race between all the different "minority" groups to claim the "most victimized" status in order to extract personal benefits from hardships faced by their predecessors
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>>201566

And he also supported gay rights back then too.
In fact, after MLK and maybe Malcolm, he was the most influential black civil rights leader.

fucking nigger conservatives OWE their rights to gay blacks.
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>>201563
Stop using the word equivalent so generally. Their equivalent in their attitude, not in their practice.
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>>201537
Children have the right to fuck once they turn 16.
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>>201511

but muh Mathew Shepherd
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>>201577
Oppressed Olympics
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Even if they aren't perfectly equivalent, given the mistreatment at blacks faced during the civil rights movement I would've expected them to be more supportive of the LGBTP movement as a result.
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>>201580
Actually no, read your history books.

The jews taught the blacks how to fight for their rights.

Fucking fags can't even get their history right.
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>>201576
Then fucking kill yourself. What does this have to do with my point?
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>>201604

MUH JESUS CHRIST
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>>201570

>But if we were born 300 years ago in colonial New England we would have been burnt!
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ITT: Victim Olympics 2013
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>>201604
LGBTP is not a race.

I'm laughing anyway.
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>>201590
Yes, according to the same government which once denied that gays could consent to sex on the basis that homosexuality was a mental disorder
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>>201609

Actually I was talking about civil rights leaders, and Bayard Rustin was one. Had nothing to do with JEWWWSSSSSS
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>>201620

>human race
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>>201628
>one

You've made your point.
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>>201610
Because your claim is that discrimination against you is worse than that of all others.

BEcause you assume that your shitty gruop is more deserving of the things that you want than others.

You are why I Ihate faggots. I wish I could HIV and get laid so I could get back at your shitdicks.
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>>201580
They always hated him for it though. For a while, King tried to disassociate himself from Rustin after rumors started to float that they were having an affair.

Still my favorite ship: kingxrustin
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>>201620

Um, what's the P for?

pandas?
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>>201620

LGBTP doesn't have to be a race, just inborn traits, which is what race is.
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>>201636
Okay.
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>>201530
Yeah, 'socially conservative' democrats.
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>>201649

Shhhhhh. Not until the cissies are ready to handle it.
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>>201566
He and A. Philip Randolph should be household names alongside MLK and Malcolm X.
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>>201648
Now this post is the epitome of gay.
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>>201604

>LGBTP
>P

We've added another acronym? What happened to the Q? Was it replaced in the last committee meeting?
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>>201662

I totally agree.
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>>201649
Pan

still laughing.
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>>201650
> just inborn traits, which is what race is.

Okay
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>>201666
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>>201666
Cause fags can't ever agree on their alphabet soup.

If it was wide acceptable that acronym might be about 13 alphabets long.
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>>201666

Don't acknowledge it directly until the social climate is right for pedosexuals to start their own civil rights movement. right now it's just in there as an expression of solidarity and inclusiveness.
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>>201649

YES PANDAS ANON.
IT WAS ALWAYS PANDAS
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>>201551
A child has no personal autonomy, view adults as authority figures, and are taught to obey adults. This is not the sort of relationship that fosters consensual sexual relations.

It's also entirely one-sided, since you only hear pedos whining about not having the right to fuck children and never hear children whining about not having the right to fuck pedos.
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>>201707
go away srsfag
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>>201645
>implying I'm gay
When did I say anything about more deserving, or worse off? I'm just making the point that comparisons to the civil rights movement are accurate on some level.
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But since America is a lot shittier since the 1960s why would you want to be compared to the civil rights movement.
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How is being gay the same as being black?

We were just ostracized, not proactively segregated from "white society" then AA'd into a sense of entitlement and inadequacy to somehow make up for it. You can hide being gay, but high melanin skin, not so much.
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>>201726
Well the blacks don't agree with you.

Pretty much end of the discussion.

Feel free to co-opt their racial struggle anyways.
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>>201736

At least if you're black, you don't have to tell your parents
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>>201712
Sex is not a big deal. Teens have casual protected sex all the time. If done with protection there are never any consequences. The Rind et. Al studies prove gentle loving intercourse and eexual play has zero traumatic effect on consenting minors.
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>>201736
Ask the fags.

>white
>privileged
>male/female
>fags
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>>201741

No one is co-opting their struggle.

prove it.
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>>201754
Oh whoop dee doo, discomfort with your parents as opposed to lifetime oppression by white society.

AAA+ shitpost
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>>201726

How are they comparable at all?
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>>201712

That's a pedophobic myth. I had a 13 year old girlfriend in my last year of college who was distraught that we couldn't openly be a couple. She did not advocate for it public ally because she knew what would happen to me if she did.
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>>201774

I was joking, I actually agree with you
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>>201774

> lifetime oppression by white society

NIGGER GUESS WHAT?

THE PRESIDENT IS BLACK. HE JUST WON HIS SECOND TERM.
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>>201790
"J-Jokes on you, I was being retarded all along."

Fuck off.
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Gays, can you please explain to me the point of LGBT societies?
You want to be treated equally, yet you create clubs that only you can exclusively join and segregate yourselves, the fuck?
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>>201789

And now that she's 20 she's probably relieved she didn't become some creeps virgin vagina delight.
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I don't see why the LGBTP community and blacks should be at each others throats considering that they are both historically oressed minorities.
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>>201741
>>201785
In the sense that a group is being discriminated against (ie, denied equal rights) for something they have no control over. I didn't say anything about the severity of the discrimination, or how society as a whole treats them. Just that they are similar on that basic level.
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>>201821

prove it
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>>201821

''LGBT'' was originally put together for conveniences sake, it was easier to say that instead of ''gay men, gay women, bisexual men and women'' and so forth.

Most of us don't actually want to be further set apart from society, only tumblr fagots
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>>201835

She is now my wife. I'm hurt but not surprised by your regressive bigotry.
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>>201376 (OP)
Most non-white races are pretty conservative morally, the reason they vote democratic is actually because the republicans are so flamingly racist, only a fucking moron would vote for them if they werent white enough to pass.
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>>201836
>I don't see why a race shouldn't co-opt with our agenda.
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>>201757
And I bet it's the pedos approaching the children for sex 90% of the time, right?

>Teens have casual protected sex all the time
With other teens. They are discouraged from having sex with people far above their age group because it is an easy way to get manipulated and taken advantage of. The power dynamics are just too extreme. Same with children and pedos.
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>>201851

Why didn't you mention that she eventually became your wife in the first place? Seems like a glaring omission.

>the lies
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>>201848

Why did you leave off the P?
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>>201878
check out the mad on this guy
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>>201821

It has nothing to do with being treated equally in society. They want a large gathering of other gay people who are down to fuck since gays are only like 10% of the population. Nothing more.
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>>201844
Gays hate everyone. They especially hate the non-white, not fit, and old.

You will find this out someday. You will become bitter and alone.
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>>201886

>I'm a female ><
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>>201877

were you never an attractive, available man in college approached by high school girls?
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>>201848
In Ireland every college has a LGBT club, the only college clubs in the where membership can be denied based on your sexual orientation.
Just saying, with making segregated clubs and flying rainbow flags I'm not at all surprised few people here care about your marriage rights.
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>>201877
I think you're retarded and it shows in your first statement.
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>>201888
>>201821

Oh you meant LGBT organizations, not gay night clubs. Whoops...
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>>201789
>13
That's not a child. She had hit puberty by then. After age 12 pedophilia becomes pederasty.
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>>201796
That doesn't somehow change the fact that racial tensions aren't still high.
Besides, Obama is mostly white.
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>>201889

prove it
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>>201899
>check out the mad on this faggot
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>>201877
modern women in their 20's have the mental maturity of a child and yet they are permitted to legally consent.
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>>201913
muh uncle tom faec
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>>201511
>implying half that shit wasnt happening to gays at the same time.

The only difference was black people were clearly black. Which is a big difference, but its the same shit, and largely done by the same people.

The reason fags werent getting hosed down at protests is because they were too afraid to show themselves because being gay completely ruins your life back then. At least black people could stay a-political and have some semblance of a normal life as long as they didnt randomly get lynched.
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>>201912
the American public refuses to make that distinction
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>>201930
Whoa, I'm black and this post is just offensive.
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>>201903
No, but I was a high school girl discouraged from dating men way above my age. I was also a high school girl who watched her friends date way above their age and get taken advantage of numerous times and not be able to do shit about it because they were young and naive
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>>201913

Get over yourself. The president is black. That's it. You went from a people of slaves to the presidency in a little over a hundred years.

That American progress for you.

Of course there is still tension, that is to be expected in a society that undervalues education.
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>>201930
This. Fuckin' electroshock therapy.
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>>201962

*That's
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>>201943
Im calling the Cost guard now
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>>201963
>getting lynched compared to hiding in the closet
>kids talking about how it was back then when they're barely 20

A+++ post
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>>201924
Modern women in their 20s are legally autonomous adults who can make decisions without a parent's permission or guidance.
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>>201660
>thinks black people arent socially conservative
They hate gays, they are one of the most religious demographics in the nation, blah blah blah. They are socially conservative. They vote for republicans because republicans are so horribly racist that anyone who isnt in complete denial can see it.
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>>201980

My friend's dad was sent to an asylum in the sixties for being caught having sex with another man. This is a true story. He was from Texas.

His father, when he got out, forced him to marry a girl he chose for him.
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>>201997
I don't mind if the libs win, once the blacks and the browns and the yellows outbreed you, you're all fucked.
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>>201935
There's the legal distinction and then there's the moral distinction. Legally, a 16 year old girl is a child, but morally people would not be as opposed to a 16 year old girl with a 30 year old man as a 6 year old girl with a 30 year old man.
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>>202008
prove it
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>>201987
Yes according to the same government which once denied that homosexuals could consent to sex on the basis they were mentally ill. We could go in circles all day on this topic.
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>>201914
Follow me around for a day.

I am unattractive and dead in gay years. You can see how faggots react to my kind.
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>>201980
The point still stands that no black person was ever taken to a hospital and made to suffer through electroshock in order to be white. While it's true that the LGBT movement isn't exactly the same as the civil rights movement, it's bullshit to say there are no parallels between the two. It's two minority groups who want to have the same rights as the majority.
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>>202031

That's your fault.

You probably never grew up.
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>>201412
this
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>>201376 (OP)

>Huey P. Newton
>Starter of Black Panthers
>Made the comparison in the 70s

These people aren't conservative, they're just in denial.
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>>202032
Help please, this guy is trying to co-opt my racial struggles.
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>>202032
You do realize that the same anti-gay therapies now denounced as pseudoscience are still being used against pedosexuals, right?
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>>202031

I know a lot of guys my age (23) that just love silver foxes btwn 40-60..so get over yourself. You're probably creepy.
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>>202057
>they're just in denial.

Ahh, I love the smell of horseshit by LGBT fags.

"You hate gays? You must be secretly gay yourself."

By that logic the entire population should be gay.
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>>202068
Bazinga
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>>202076

No you nigger, not denial in the sense of being gay but acting straight.
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>>202076

Now, where did it say in that post they're in denial about their sexuality.

I'm talking about in denial about the idea that there's no parallels what-so-ever, and that this idea is something new that's started since the early 00's. The movements have grown TOGETHER for a very, very long time.
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>>202100
>The movements have grown TOGETHER for a very, very long time.

prove it
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>>202088

Adults are not allowed to fuck children. End of story.

Children have *guardians* and have to go to school.

SEX IS FOR PEOPLE WHO HAVE GONE THROUGH PUBERTY. DO YOU COMPREHEND THIS?
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>>202092
>not denial in the sense of being gay but acting straight.

You're very amusing.
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>>202046
It is my fault that I am ugly and aging? Are you really that fucking stupid?

>>202070
>lot of guys

Not quite. Less than 1% of 2% of the population likes older men. That is like... umm.. carry the 1... not very many people.
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>>202113
gib good counter arguments or is the point out of your scope of boilerplate points.
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>>202068

[Citation Needed]

Those therapies went out with the use on Gays for reasons other than Gays being thought to be okay. Inhumane practices ended that long before the Gay rights movement, and they were stopped on pedos the same time. Yes, they were both used, but because the same punishment is given for two different acts, doesn't mean the acts are the same, no matter how cruel and unusual the punishments are.

Your arguments fail repeatedly.
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>>202113
"Men are not allowed to fuck other men. End of story" -1950
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>>202119

So what? Even young heterosexuals won't TOUCH old and ugly.

Anyway, ugly people aren't allowed to have sex. It should be a law.
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>>202068
>homosexuality is between two consenting adults
>pedophilia does not involve consent

I don't really see the point you're trying to make.
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>>202130
[Citation Needed]
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>>202130

the same therapies once used to cure homosexuals are still in use at the Coalinga concentration camp against pedosexuals.
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>>202029
20-year-old girls are also expected to take care of themselves and be responsible when having sex. If they catch herpes because they failed to use a condom, then they are expected to take full responsibility for the act and pay for their own treatments and medical bills.

A child can't even take personal responsibility for shitting itself. How is it supposed to be involved in something as potentially life-changing as sex when it can't even buy it's own condoms?
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>>202141
lol the face of LGBT

RIGHTS FOR THE YOUNG AND HOT, SCREW THE OLD AND UGLY PEOPLE
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>>202135

Men =/= children (who have parents that aren't going to allow you, old and ugly, to fuck them just because your peers think you're a fucking LOSER)
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>>202158

Nigger, I am straight.
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>>202108

Most of the activists who went through the Black Rights movement, moved on to help with Gay rights.

Mr. Bayard Rustin went to study Ghandi's practices with the intent to bring it to both the gay and black rights movments. Though MLK was hesitant to talk about it, he was quoted numerous times talking to Bayard about the Gay rights movement.


Also, Malcolm X was bisexual (at the very least), that's just historical fact.
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>>202145
>Gays cannot consent because homosexuality is a mental illness

This was the argument put forth during the civil rights movement against people who said it would lead to gays marrying.

if we can we define marriage is between a man and a man we can re define who is able to consent
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>>202164
Does it matter, you do consider yourself an ally right?
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>>202170
prove, not anecdotal

link me
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>>202161

Pedophobic insults are not a counter argument. You will not destroy my pride. It gets better.
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>>202186
>calls you a fucking loser
>on 4chan

damn nigger, that stung
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>>202176

Of course I do, but I guess you don't because YOU'RE MADZ NO YUNG KIDZ WANNA FUCK MY DIRTY SMEGMA OLD MAN PENOR.
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>>202155

if your 10 year old is still s******* herself she has a serious medical condition
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>>202194
lol

A+++ ally, wud b proud of
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>>202174
Having a mental illness is not the same thing as being mentally underdeveloped, i.e. a child. A pedophile is a predator, plain and simple. Be glad pedophilia is considered a mental illness instead of just a criminal activity.
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>>202174
Except a child can't even consent to go on a school field trip.
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>>202194
It is not about sex. It is about the group hating itself and hating anyone who does not fit into a specific type.
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>>202208

Go watch the PSA film boys beware. It also argues that homosexuals are predators, plain and simple.
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>>202211

That's a social construct.
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>>202197
A ten-year old still can't buy a pack of condoms. And not just because no one will sell it to them.
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>>202185

http://www.guardian.co.uk/commentisfree/cifamerica/2009/oct/20/malcolm-x-bisexual-black-history
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>>201511
The difference it's that blacks deserved it. They rape, steal and act like niggers to this day. They make a huge percentage of incarcerated people, and their whole culture is cancerous and anti-intellectual. Just hoes and bling bling.
Fags are harmless, at most they make people unconfortable. (inb4 aids, blacks have a disproportionate rate of infection)
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Rush takes apart gay marriage arguments

http://www.rushlimbaugh.com/daily/2013/03/26/why_draw_the_line_at_couples

RUSH: Well, let me ask you this. Where does this freedom to do what you want stuff stop? And what, in your case, what would two people wanting to do raise a red flag for you? What would you say, "Now, wait a minute, no, no, no, you shouldn't do that?"

CALLER: Well, I think if you were talking about like a three-party marriage, an eight-party marriage --

RUSH: Why? If you love one, you can love two. What if all three people love each other and they want the benefits and all that, who among us should deny those three people their love?

CALLER: I think they can be loved, I just don't think you need to give it a legal status because --

RUSH: Why not?

CALLER: Because two people would make a family, they could raise kids, adopt kids, do whatever they want, I don't think --

RUSH: Wait a minute. But why can't three people do that? In fact, if you have two of the same sex and one of the opposite sex, you've handled the adoption issue. You don't need to adopt. You can have one woman and two guys in a marriage, and the woman could be impregnated by the two, and, voila, you got a family.

CALLER: I don't see that.

RUSH: You got a lot of love and what could possibly be wrong with that?

CALLER: I think society's determined that two spouses, two people --

RUSH: Well, wait, society's determined, you know, by the way, human civilization, from the beginning of time, has determined that marriage is a union of a man and a woman. The Republicans didn't do it.

CALLER: Right.

RUSH: Conservatives didn't do it.

CALLER: Right.

RUSH: Churchill didn't do it. Margaret Thatcher didn't do it. Gorbachev didn't do. It was humanity which did it. You just said society has determined that -- well, society has determined that marriage is between a man and a woman, but I don't think society's right in that case.

Read the rest. in Before ITS A PLANT, and CONS.
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>>202230

If a ten year old uses his allowance to try this and it's only the shop keeper's refusal that prevents it, would you change your mind and become less bigoted?
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>>202245

Who is Rush and why should I care?
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>>202230

Why would a ten year old who isn't shooting sperm yet need a condom?
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>>202239
Blacks were pretty much benign until the Civil Rights movement, which sparked a fuckload of interracial violence. Nowadays, most violent nignogs are gangster fuckholes killing other gangster fuckholes.
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>>202219
That's an argument, what I said was a fact and you know it, since you're still desperately trying to prove me wrong.

Certain social constructs exist for a reason, to protect those who don't know how to protect themselves from people who would prey on their naivete. If you're an adult, you fuck a willing adult.
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>>202245

Acually gay marriages have occurred in every recorded historical period. Rush Lympho aka OXYCONTIN UP THIS MOTHERFUCKER is talking about judeo christian relgious application of man/woman unions, and even within christianity there were gay unions back in the early middle ages.
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>>202262
To put on the pedophile who may or may not be carrying an STD.
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>>202262
Because they were convinced to buy it for the older men who want to fuck them and they don't know any better.
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>>202249
Only if he can use his allowance to pay for medical treatment for the STDs he's at risk of catching.
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>>202280

why wouldn't he just buy that for himself if he's going to use it
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>>202245
The fat douche interrupts him multiple times. What maturity.
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>>202292
Because it feels better without a condom, duh.
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>>202284

why wouldn't the older man just buy his own condoms he's going to be the one that's using it
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>>202308

Because then he's a predator, this way the pedo can claim that lil' Johnny was asking for it.
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>>202290
That's an issue for any sex between anybody, it's not like STDs are unique to 1 specific type of pairing.
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>>202308
>he knew what he was doing officer! Bought them with his own money! The ideal of children as mentally underdeveloped is just a social construct!
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>>202297
>host in control of his very time constrained show trying to get to the point asap and keeping people on target

HOW AWFUL
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>>202317

You mean just like the PSA 'boys beware' exposes homosexuals as predators?
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>>202324
It shouldn't be an issue for children. They shouldn't have to go through that because an adult coerced them into sex.
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>>202335

Bu aren't you the people claiming the gender is a social construct
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>>202343

It's prejudiced to assume coercion occurred.
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>>202324
But anybody else is expected to understand and take responsibility for the risks involved with sex. A child cannot be trusted with that kind of responsibility. Children can't even be entrusted with the responsibility to keep their goldfish alive.
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>>202336
>keeping people on target
i.e. stopping him from saying things he doesn't want to hear
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>>202339

There are heterosexual pedos and homosexual pedos, right?? And female ones and male ones, right?
And black pedos, white pedos, asian pedos,right?

So why are you only hung up on homosexuals to prove your point?
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>>202339
I just watched that PSA, and while it's obviously anti-gay propaganda, it's also geared towards anti-pedophile propaganda as well. Are you seriously trying to tout this as a pro-pedo example?
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>>202376
sex is not a big deal it doesn't require very much responsibility at all that's a social construct
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>>202363
Regardless of whether or not it was coerced, a child shouldn't have to go through that. A child shouldn't have to worry about their life getting ruined because they caught herpes or AIDS from a pedo.
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>>202363
If a child is involved, then it's coercion.
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>>202389

just the opposite there's a twin PSA called girls beware which is just as ignorant. today we laugh at boys beware, yet bigots like you claim that girls bewaree is still accurate
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>>202396

No bigot, there's only coersion if there is coercion.
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>>202231
>his activities as a male sex worker,
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>>202239
>implying all races are not guilty of the same things
>mfw you are applying guilt to everyone without justification
>by this logic all whites are inbred hicks

jimmies rustled
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>>202356
Gender IS a social construct. Biology is not. If a person is of a certain age, then they are mentally underdeveloped and aren't able to take responsibility for their own lives. Therefore, convincing this person that they should have sex with you is coercion and isn't consensual.
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>>202385
Le vagina stories faec

Probably the one that is publicly accepted as wholesome and good.

Laughed my face off.
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>>202415

What about the parents of the kids you'd like to rape? Are they just going to sit back while their child gets into your black van?
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>>202415
Exactly. If it's a child, it's automatically coercion.

Thank you for seeing my point.
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>>202424

Biology is not a social construct, but attaching a number to someone's name that indicates the number of times they've ridden this planet around
the Sun and letting the government dictate based on that whether or not they're sufficiently mature to consent to sex is a social construct.
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>>202444

>THE PARENTS WILL NOT CONSENT TO HAVING YOU WANT TO BUTTFUCK THE INNOCENCE OUT OF THEIR CHILDREN.

>FUCK THE GOVERNMENT. IT'S THE PARENTS WHO HAVE THE WHOLE PEDO ARGUMENT DEAD ON ARRIVAL.

>DEAL WITH THIS PEDO SCUM.
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>>202441
Thats a social construct.

In many societies you are an adult at 12 and can consent.
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>>202437

>rape
>van

Bigot. and in fact her parents were extremely okay with it based on the fact that I was clean cut, had promising prospects for the future and clearly loved their daughter. Just because you're pedophobic doesn't mean everyone is. regardless of age fathers are often hostile the boys at their daughters bring home, but law prevents them from violently preventing the relationship. The same would be true here. actually the general public would become more progressive in that would no longer be necessary
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>>202467

exact same argument also works against gays many parents don't want their son dating another boy. But hey're not all like that, are they? And it still happens doesn't it.
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>>202444
Yeah, and it's a good social construct, because it keeps people like you away from children.
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>>202483

Parents raise children to allow them the chance to decide their own future, not pedo scums.
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>>202488

Children dating their own PEERS is a lot different than being coerced into sleeping with oldpedo.
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>>202441
You're being knowingly deceptive and as a result you've automatically lost, the moment you deliberately misrepresented my position as in agreement with yours.
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>>202474
Most of those societies hold onto traditions where you can throw acid on a girl for going to school and not covering her face. Certain social constructs exist for a reason.

Man, you really want a reason to validate your babyfuck lust, don't you?
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>>202500

How? If they're having sex and it's not magically destroying their mind like you people believe it must, how would the size of the partner make a difference?
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>>202501

You emotionally connect with little kids?
They get you better than adults?

Or is it they're not old enough to see the flaws that older humans are able to discern in you right away,

>I NEED FRESH HUMAN MEAT, THE BETTER FOR MY MONSTER CLAWS. THEY DON'T SEE THAT THEY'RE CLAWS THOUGH, CAUSE I WEARS MITTENS!!
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>>202506

Same as you want to legitimize your degenerate buttfuck lust, faggot.
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>>202524

Look at how you need to misrepresent and dehumanize me to justify your hatred. Those aren't my motives, you projected those onto me.
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>>202526
Well, considering I live in a society where it's not against the law to buttfuck another willing man, I'd say I've already won. But you go right ahead and say that you're the same as us and one day you'll get the right to fuck kids.
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>>202526

Lesbian here.

Thanks for being particularly tunnel visioned about this whole issue.

No one wants their children fucked by adults.
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>>202535

Why do you like children?
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>>202488
Once their son is out of the house, they can't do shit about him dating another male. However, while he lives under their roof, they can prevent him fucking other men and pedophiles alike. As parents, they have have every right to determine what's best for him until he's an adult.
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>>202544

If my daughter is post puberty and is in love with a seemingly decent man in his twenties or thirties, I will not stand in the way. So, your blanket statement is already disproven.
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>>202556

They're cute. It makes my heart react. I can only experience romantic feelings if she's cute and small. They're silly, fun to be around, charming when bratty and fun to spoil. I'm into more and tsun tsun specifically.
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>>202743
*moe
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>Blacks got chased by hounds, hung on trees, hosed down, and ultimately the big figures of African-American civil rights got shot by the government.
>To this day blacks still are treated like shit, racially profiled, etc.

Give it up. It'll never be the same thing.
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>>202722
What about pre-puberty? Pedophilia only applies to sex with children before puberty. Post-puberty is just pederasty.
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>>202759

The P can stand for pederasty then. Girls start to be appealing around 10-12 for me and stop being appealing around 20 at the latest.
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>>202764
That's been disproven tons of times. Human beings are extremely too genetically similar across racial lines.
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>>202753

But blacks actually are genetically less intelligent and more aggressive, and they actually do ruin any city they gain majority control of.
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>>202787
You would be hebephilic and ephebophilic then.
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>>202795

We're 98.4% similar to chimps, too. Are chimps equal to us?
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>>201757
>Rind
Fuck here we go.
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>>202812

Which, in practice, carries the same severe stigma as pedophilia.
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>>202795
Just the opposite, it's been repeatedly proven. When you say disproven you probably mean by sociologists, who are not biologists and basically frauds.
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>>202812

heblebebe what?
ephelbolobic huh?
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>>202820

Are you telling me you have no problem with how it was handled, with politicians clamoring to punish the researchers and censor their results?


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