Czech
Yes.

Australian here.

Where do i sign?

I'd be reluctant because Australia doesn't have a congress.

>>9588968
>>9588969

So you'd support Concealed Carry, Open Carry and limited to no restrictions on small arms?

I'm talking no weapon register or licensing scheme here either apart from maybe displaying your DRIVING license.

England

No thank you.

Duh

>>9588964
Add in maliciously committing crimes with firearms instead of just crimes committed with firearms.
If this wet dream ever did happen, there'd be some guy doing 10 years without parole for happening to be armed while committing a dumbass non violent felony.
But overall, like I said...wet dream. Ten years seems low for someone using a firearm for evil, though. Make it 20.

>>9588980
It's no different from what the criminals get, why the fuck not?

Now it's just legal for me to have the same Browning Hi-Power or Glock 19/21 that the fine upstanding australian aboriginal gentleman 10 meters away has that he got from beating a cop senseless.

>>9588982
>England
>No thank you
9/10
>herewego.gif

While we're at it, let's implement sharia law and sell medicare off to insurance companies. It'll be awesome!

I would be willing to kill and die in order to put this party in power

>We believe the Legislature should enact legislation preventing employers from prohibiting Concealed Handgun License (CHL) holders from storing their concealed handgun in their vehicle while on a company parking area,


No. over9000 times, no.

>we oppose “Gun Free Zones.”

As long as it is not private property, this is perfectly acceptable.

>>9588969

http://www.ldp.org.au/

State policies haven't been written in yet but on the federal level...

Specific firearm policies:

* Sport, hunting and self-defence are all legitimate reasons for firearm ownership.
* Firearm ownership should be subject to possession of a licence. However, all adults over 18 years of age have a right to a licence unless it has been removed because of a history or genuine prospect of coercion.
* Those who wish to carry a concealed firearm for self-defence are entitled to be issued with a permit to do so unless they have a history or genuine prospect of coercion.
* All genuine sporting uses of firearms are legitimate.
* There should be no registration of long-arms.
* There should be no special prohibitions on semi-automatic firearms.
* Individuals and organisations have a right to establish facilities that involve the use of firearms. This includes shooting ranges and hunting reserves

Membership is free, you have no excuse not to join.

>>9588980
There is very little regulation in Czech anyways. Why not lessen the restrictions even further? People would not likely even be able to tell the difference.

>>9588964
>NON AMERICANS ONLY
>ATF, FFL, states and counties

Oh you!

>I'm talking no weapon register or licensing scheme here either apart from maybe displaying your DRIVING license.

You should have to pass a safety course, etc. After that, if you have no record of mental health, aggression and/or violence you should be allowed to purchase a firearm without a waiting period.

>>9589002
I was going to bark at you about saying no, but then i thought about government employees and the very grey area that would present, the issue of car theft, and the bigger issue of *Guy breaks into cr, finds gun. Free gun!* So yeah, I agree after thinking about it.

>>9589011
Oh wow, i missed that.

Poland.

Yes.

>>9589019
How did you miss it?

>>9588989
Aaaaand there's the troll.

>All abos have gunz! Ohmigawds Australia is just like Texas with gune control!

LOL

>>9589011

I think you can imagine where I got the excerpt from.

John Howard even tried to pretend the Eureka Stockade never happened.

If you want to live like a white Somalian, emigrate for fuck's sake.

>>9589024
That was a generalization, the white douchebags have them as well, and the bogans.

There goes your whole argument, you tosser

Australian.

No. Firstly, a certain level of regulation is reasonable. Secondly, monitoring of gun ownership is a necessity, especially in a nation with so many firearms. Thirdly, making penalties worse for gun crime is just going to up prison rates without solving the root problem. And lastly, guns only have one use, which is to kill. It doesn't matter how well trained and responsible you are, preventing others from wishing against you bringing a firearm onto their premises is a grave infringement of their rights, much more so than your petty idea of infringement of the second amendment, which is minimal compared to Australia. Should it be impossible to get a gun? No. Should you have to be licensed, trained, and have good reason? Yes. Should somebody have the right to prevent you from bringing your firearm onto their property if they feel you have unjust cause? Yes.

>>9589040

If you don't agree with the legislation just say so. Don't go off half cocked equating it to Somalia.

>>9589049

>have good reason

Troll #2 everyone. They seem to be hiding in Australia tonight.

Poland

no

there should be common basic military traning, there you learn how to use weapons. Once its over - you give weapon back. If you are needed - you get the weapon.

we dont need ten million cowboys for ten thousand bandits

>9589049
>Should you have to be licensed
Yes.

>Trained
To an extent, the licensing testing should cover the basics.

>And have good reason?
Define "Good reason" Self defense, hunting, recreational use?
and besides, no criminal is going to say "I'm going to buy this so I can go kill/rob someone."
Which basically means there's no point in there being a "Good reason".


Should somebody have the right to prevent you from bringing your firearm onto their property if they feel you have unjust cause? Yes.

>>9589049

Replace Australia with England and you have my reasons right here pretty much.

Well, I'll be off to eat, I see this thread finally attracted the "We hate guns and only come to /k/ to heckle" crowd. Later, dongbenders.

>>9589064

And that's why you don't have guns any more.

>>9588964
Ausfag here, fuck yes.

>>9589099

See:

>>9589006

They have meetings each month in most capital cities. Joining is free.

Britain

Not if its worded like that, no. Can't you word it a bit more... moderate?

I'm all for more reasonably gun laws, but I don't want the ones America has.

Britain. Yes please.

>>9589117
hue hue hueh huehueheuheu

Fin.

Yes.

>>9589117

With the amount of anti-gun sentiment in the communities of the Commonwealth, I figure it's best to go for broke when speaking ideologically.

If you can't persuade people with rhetoric of the RIGHT to self defense you're not going to get them to budge on the current laws by being "moderate".

We were moderate when the bans were passed. The time now is to be uncompromising.

>>9589066
No, dear. It's the "guns and weapons are cool, just like the fantasy of a zombie apocalypse is, but you'd have to be a five-star idiot to want to it in reality" crowd.

>>9589128
But the people of the Commonwealth are hardwired to be against extremes. It's just how we are.

It would be much better to paint your ideas as the reasonable, moderate ones, and the current gun laws as extreme and unreasonable.

I'd rather push for a little and get it, than push for a lot and get nothing. Besides, it's scientifically proven that if you get someone to agree to a small thing, they're more likely to agree to a similar, much bigger thing.

>>9589128
You're confusing anti-gun with pro-peaceful and safe communities.

>>9589133
>it's scientifically proven that if you get someone to agree to a small thing, they're more likely to agree to a similar, much bigger thing.

Hmm. Have you got any of that proof handy? Sounds like the old "slippery slope" argument that's been consistently wrong since, oh, history began.

>>9589133

Maybe if you're talking for a major political party, but presently fringe parties like this have to inject the ideas into the debate for the compromise to happen- otherwise the major party has no incentive to change their position on the matter.

If a Libertarian Party started pulling people from the base of the Tories in England, the Conservatives are going to go further right on the issue of self defense.

You don't NEED to compromise. Sure, you can have coalitions with other parties on areas of agreement, but compromising your core beliefs just makes you devoid of principle.

>>9589115
Already a paying member brah.

>>9589140
But if a fringe party did that, and went full 'We want Americans gun laws', everyone would call them gun nuts and ignore them. Yet if they went moderate they'd get more support.

Again, I'd rather ask for little and get it, than ask for a lot and get nothing.

>>9589198

>But if a fringe party did that, and went full 'We want Americans gun laws', everyone would call them gun nuts and ignore them.

Well no, people who believe in the right to self defense with a firearm would be attracted to the party and they'd gain influential support because of their message.

The recent riots in London would have been a prime recruiting catalyst for membership.

If you don't believe you have a right to defend yourself, fine, but don't misrepresent your views by making yourself appear more "moderate". People are more likely to respect you if you state your views in a forthright manner.

>>9589206
hahahah fucking neutrals getting called out on their bullshit left and right.

Argentina.
Kinda yes because I'd prefer moderated gun laws instead the extrapolation of the 2nd Amendment and the US firearms legislation into my country/people.

We'd just fuck up things with so much 'freedom' because we're fucking retarded at its best.

>>9589281

Go away Argentina, you don't deserve guns because you attacked the Falklands.

>>9589206
I do believe I have a right to defend myself. I just don't believe we need to go full-American with them.

England.
Yes, but I would be worried about the amount of delinquent dole-scum getting their hands on firearms. Although I hate to admit it, I would probably say there are more of this type of person over here than the other side of the pond, so the Poh Leese might have to step it up a bit.

no.
right now virtualy no street criminals (burglers, muggers, gangs) have guns, so i'd rather keep it that way. if the criminals had guns then the police would have to start carrying them too, which would be shit for obvious reasons.

>>9589117
>I'm all for more reasonable gun laws, but I don't want the ones America has.
You mean the "ones" that "allow" Americans to purchase, posess, carry and use them?
You just sit quietly and enjoy your queen.
(inb4 figurehead)
BTW: Have they taken your bats yet?

>>9589394
Also this (cont. from>>9589362). Crime is pretty poor in England IMO, but it might get worse, as most of the population are probably Liberal fags anyway, only a small percentage of us would probably exercise the right to own them with honest intentions.

>>9589058
Hey, Poland, how's that wild hog overpopulation problem going for you, considering you can't even legally hunt them or anything?

>>9589138
0/10

UK

OH GOD YES


However I do hope that they don't wish to change too much of the rest of the functioning of the British state.

>>9589350

>I do believe I have a right to defend myself. I just don't believe we need to go full-American with them.

You have a funny definition of a right. If you have a right to carry a firearm for self defense, you are able to exercise it without being apprehended by the police.

Have a look on youtube for people openly carrying their AR15 on their back in full view on the way to the gun range. Completely legal, and despite the objections of the officers that show up- they can't do anything because they are bound by law.

>>9589485

>However I do hope that they don't wish to change too much of the rest of the functioning of the British state.

You don't want free speech?

>>9589533
We've already got that to a large degree.

>>9589545

No you don't.

>>9589049
>And lastly, guns only have one use, which is to kill.

Really?

I've had my gun for a year now and it has only punched holes in paper.

When does it get to fulfill its purpose?

>>9589545
Until someone disagrees with you, then it's hate speach.

>>9589552
Don't we? Show me how we don't, honestly.

OK brits heres what the fuss is all about.
Pic:First 10 articles in Americas Bill of Rights.
Check out the second.
"A well regulated Militia being necessary to the security of a free State, the right of the people to keep and bear arms shall not be infringed."
There ya go.
The rest are pretty cool too.

>>9589567

Call someone a nig nog or deny the holocaust and see where you end up.

Can your news shows,)or any show) show clips of your parliament and then make fun of them?

Here here, jolly good, humph humph, "i say to the speaker youre full of horse nanny and your arse is not up to snuff in a most preposterous way. (bangs the gavel).ORDER!!!!! "here here jolly good sir".
Sky news: "This was the opening statements in Parliment this morning concerning the new dogcrime leash law".

Would this be legal?

"We believe the Legislature should enact legislation preventing employers from prohibiting Concealed Handgun License (CHL) holders from storing their concealed handgun in their vehicle while on a company parking area"
I disagree with this. It's their property. Don't like it? Then don't work theere

>>9589632
>It's MY property. Don't like it? Then don't look in my vehicle.

Fixed.