No reason to, the big powers (China & USA) cannot fight each other, their economies are too intertwined, the USA is as dependent on China as China is dependent on the USA.

Can't happen, sorry broski.

Could happen tomorrow if someone important severally stepped on first world toes.

Won't happen. Economy warfare on limited scale to push forward political decisions favourable for the agressor as well as ongoing information war is far more likely than any sort of open, full-scale global conflict.

>>9428589
>sorry
It's okay, I'm not one of those guys who spend all their time prepping, hoping the world ends so they can inherit the land.

Two scenarios in which I beleive WW3 could begin.

1) Norks gone wild.
2) China takes Taiwan.

>>9428602

But all that shit is already happening.

We live in a time when war between developed countries and major powers is no longer possible.

Nuclear deterrent means that war can only be made against smaller undeveloped nation.

There will be no WW3.

>>9428608

China wont take Taiwan, we have already stated publicly that we would defend Taiwan.

We would be forced to do it or all of our international alliances would fall apart, that would be disastrous.

China isn't stupid, they know we'd have to do something ie. embargo them or invade Taiwan to liberate them.

The only real chance of WWIII, is Kim Jong Il deciding that Deadliest Warrior's results are wrong, and trying to prove it.

Then the rest of the world going brain dead when picking sides.

>>9428589
>china
>dependent on usa

>>9428624
No one would side with the Norks and the war would be over in two months.

World War 3: About 1,000,000:1 against it. Korean War 2, however, I'd say is getting to the point where it may be inevitable. Ever since the Soviet Union collapsed, and the Norkies lost their top trading partner, Kim Jong Il has had no money, his people are starving, and he can't even feed his ridiculous army. That's prime real estate for revolution, and I'd bet good money he'd rather try to turn that aggression against a foreign "oppressor" than be knocked out of power.

>>9428629

>herp derp
>unskilled workforce relying totally on mass-production for mass-export to the USA & allies
>TOTAL ECONOMY RELIES ON THIS

>>9428632

North Korea would be a clusterfuck that would become the USA's new new Vietnam. It'd be Vietnam...3? 4?

>>9428619

Yes do something stupid.

Embargo China: Only the USA gets in on that and their economy collapses. China is fine as it just sells to everyone else.

Invade Taiwan: Discover that your ability to project force in Asia is massively insufficient which is why China doesn't consider the USA a credible military threat.

>>9428642

You are a Eurofag, confirmed.

>>9428629
China is quite dependent on the United States economy, and they wouldn't throw out their top trading partner in a war.

>>9428615
This fellow begs to differ.

>>9428608
China won't want to get glassed because of a shithole like North Korea.
As far as Taiwan goes, it's unlikely that they could even stage an invasion ATM, even without American support of Taiwan.
Besides that, Taiwan has become a lot less confrontative recently, there's Taiwanese openly thinking about a reunion with the mainland or at least a normalization of foreign relationships.

>>9428609
Yes. and that's all you can look forward to, a war of accountants and newsies, with soldiers being relegated to occasional "peacekeeping" op in some godforsaken dustbunny-stan.

>>9428638

Yeah maybe twenty or thirty years ago. Bitch don't pay attention to the 5 year plans and their results.

>>9428642

>Embargo China: Only the USA gets in on that and their economy collapses

>implying the rest of the Europe isn't the USA's bitch and wouldn't get in on that shit

Hell, we just invaded 3 countries in the last decade or so and you were right there along with us and you're trying to tell us you wouldn't be there with the embargo at the very least?

LOL!

What about Iran vs. Israel? Assume the Iranians have developed nuclear weapons.

Could be a war over oil.

>>9428647

Not anymore bro. The so called "greatest generation" are out of power and either dead or retired and they've taken their bloodlust with them.
The Boomers are too greedy and self centred to risk it all in a war.

>>9428651

China is weak, technology R&D is non-existent, they can only produce stolen designs, this is a fact. Everyone knows China has allowed the rampant theft of intellectual technology to go unchecked.

Or how about India vs. Pakistan?

>>9428638
>this is what obamanites actually believe

>>9428654

Back then the USA had a good reputation with Europe. That is no longer the case. Besides which Russia likes China now and is in a position to exert stronger influence over Europe than the USA.

>>9428661

Not as much as the USA likes to think. Although the next two five year plans are going to focus on increasing Chinese consumption and improving its homegrown R&D.

>>9428663

Won't happen. The UK and other nations are too busy calming down both sides for it to go to all out war barring some insane occurrence.

>>9428654
That was business, I seriously hope you didn't think... oh my.

>>9428665

The Chinese population is rapidly aging, due to a lower mortality rate and the one child policy. This will lead to a pension problem for the Chinese as well as a dramatic reduction of their useful workforce.

China has yet to develop a domestic technology market capable of true innovation and in fact still relies solely on Russia for even basic military technology designs.

>>9428674

>implying that just because it has become trendy to hate the USA in your college that you aren't still our bitch

>>9428681

Expect a change of the one child policy soon. They've already prepared housing for the next generation which will eclipse the current ones.

You have to remember China is massively into long term planning. The USA will rarely plan for longer than a few years. Anything longer is pushed onto the next administration.

China plans for a minimum of five years all the time. Often making plans for longer term goals.

>>9428688

No as in pretty much every European government doesn't give a fuck about the whims of the Amerifats anymore.

The UK is the only one which is still willing to put up with you and that doesn't extend to going to war.

>>9428690

Are you.. are you defending a dictatorship?

Holy shit, Eurofags confirmed for full retard.

>>9428691

>http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/International_Security_Assistance_Force

I'm seeing a lot of European nations on that list.. why are they there again??

>>9428692

China are Corperatists pretending to be Communists who are sort of ok with capitalism.

They're as much a dictatorship as any corporate entity. You murricans believe the free market creates the perfect solution to everything? Well behold China. The first government forged by the free market.

>>9428696

Yes chucklefuck. Afghanistan is a NATO war not a US one.

No actual WW3, but many civil wars all around the world, as more and more first world countries gardually turn into police states. I'm pretty sure this will happen, it's just a matter of when.

>>9428710

Oh for fucks sake.
Yes the USA is rapidly becoming a police state but you've always been like that. Stop assuming your problems are affecting everyone else.

>>9428702

I say dictatorship and you respond with communism vs. capitalism?

Are your pants currently on your head, retard?

>>9428706

And who, pray tell, runs NATO?

Let's be very real here, it's the USA.

You can lie to yourself if it makes you feel better.

The next war will be over dwindling energy supplies.

Think 20 years or so.

For those of you who are stuck on this idea that nuclear deterrence will prevent every war, you need to consider this.

Deterrence breaks down when someone in the equation believes that victory is either
A) Possible
B) Necessary to their continued survival

Deterrence assumes that every player has 100% clarity in terms of their opponents intentions as well as how their intentions are interpreted by their opponents.

Wars are not fought through hindsight.

>>9428726
And how long will NATO survive? Pretty much all european nations are doing whatever they can to cut back on support.

>>9428720

You've got no fucking clue do you Amerifag?
Is this your governments new line on China? "Oh they're a dictatorship! we got to free the fuck out of them even though it'll get you all killed but it's ok we have the keys to the bunker so your leaders will live on...for a few days."

The Chinese practice a corporatist system of government. With a slight Communist twist because it emerged from some Communists getting involved with the market.
Thanks to it conditions in China have gotten a lot better very rapidly. You keep saying China is a shit hole now, well you didn't see it fourty years ago.

>>9428691
Except when you beg us to fight your wars for you.

>>9428735
>implying China's nuclear Arsenal poses a threat to the US.

You euros are really ignorant to the facts of the situation.

>>9428729

Nuclear deterrence works by making those with it too scared to act.

The only one who really would use it are one of the more fanatical nations like the USA, Iran, Israel or Best Korea.

>>9428615
Exactly. No first world nation or superpower is willing to accept the losses that will come with a nuclear war.

>>9428735

No, moron, I'm pointing out that you're trying to take the debate to somewhere TOTALLY different.

Yes, if the US Gov't ran the same as China ie. no elections, just a single-party Government who rules with an iron fist and takes most of the citizen's money so it can loan it out to the world that we'd be a lot better off economically too..

But I value my freedom too much to let that happen. I guess this is something only lazy socialist Europeans can understand :(

>>9428744

>China Unveils new missiles that are copies of American ones they've been building for the last ten or so years.

>>9428692
Are you... are you defending a plutonomy?

Holy shit... no wait, I already knew you ameritrash were pants-on-head retarded.

>>9428754

>China announces new fighter jet, is pretty much a carbon-copy of a 22-year-old US design

>Eurofags jump up and down about how awwsum China's technology is.

>>9428753

You're not free Amerifat. Wipe the lard out of your eyes and you'll realise the Chinese have the better government. They're raising standards of living and bringing the chance to improve their next generations lot in life.

America is a puppet show run for the sake of harvesting money.

>>9428759

Yeah, go tell your queenie, fuckhead.

>>9428748
>Nuclear deterrence works by making those with it too scared to act.
No.
It works by making the opponent believe that he can not win, that there is not a single move he can make that will lead to victory.
Thus, he must pursue victory using alternate means.
If the opponent fails to understand that he cannot win by undertaking a certain course of action, deterrence breaks down.

It has little to do with fear.

>>9428761

A 22 year old design that still works today and can be built in greater numbers.

The USA dun derped on air warfare strategy. Stealth has reached its peak and is only going to get more useless.

>>9428763

>chance to improve their next generations lot in life.

Lol

2 sets of Grandparents, your parents and siblings all crammed into a tiny apartment relying on you for financial support. You provide this by working 15 hours a day in a factory making my computer parts for shit ass wage that is in any case rising to uncompetitive levels already and sending business to India.

>>9428735
Yeh, it only took China 100 years to progress from the industrial revolution to the information age. Well done.

>>9428766

Constitutional Monarchy is a high performer as far as national governments go. Top 3 spots in the UN Human Development Index are occupied by them. Highest standards of living tend to be Constitutional Monarchies too.

>>9428754
lol.

So now you are inventing stuff out of thin air?

Cool.
I can play too.

>US unveils space weapons system that renders all ballistic missiles ineffective.

>>9428772

>Stealth has reached its peak and is only going to get more useless.

So China coming out with this 2 decades after ours first flew and you are attacking America?

Sir, you are retarded.

>>9428773

Still better than it used to be.

>>9428782

Constitutional monarchy has fuck all to do with Australia & Canada, it's their fuck awesome natural resource driven economy. As for Norway, they are deeply in debt to provide this HDI ie the Euro debt crisis.

>>9428785

The genie is out of the bottle. Everyone has it now and it won't be long before everyone has countermeasures.

>>9428748
China will use it, because:

1. The USA are too arrogant to expect it.
2. There are simply so many of them, they can afford to lose a few hundred millions in a nuclear holocaust. The USA cannot.

>>9428793

Doubt it. China will just position itself to benefit from whatever happens. They're happy to just be the global equivalent of Walmart

>>9428792

So you attack the USA after they stop production and China starts production and you don't see what is wrong with that?

>>9428805

I'm pointing out that stealth technology has stopped being useful.

The USAF still puts stealth aircraft forward as its main aerial warfare strategy. You're dun derpin

Oil and food. That's what will spark WWIII.

Though the U.S. has enough untapped oil reserves throughout Alaska, the continental U.S. and the Caribbean to give them oil independence for a decent number of years, they can't cut through the red (rather, green) tape to access it. And the main OPEC countries from which most of the world receives its oil (Libya, Iraq, Saudi Arabia, etc.) are so divided internally by protests, riots, outright civil war, and deep cultural conflicts that their infrastructure has been reduced to nothing more than a glass house. Their entire oil industry could simply switch off overnight, which would most CERTAINLY lead to a war of some sort.

The hidden enemy, however, is food. In the U.S., farmlands in the midwest are being over-cultivated. Most of the corn being produced is being thrown away in the name of ethanol (which does jackshit), leaving the land infertile and our food reserves low. Look at North Korea. They can't grow enough food to feed their people because of a) infertile land, and b) severe overpopulation; put the two together and they form a potentially deadly combination. Much of the land around the world is becoming incapable of growing crops, and the day food begins dictating our foreign policy due to a global food shortage/scare, the day WWIII starts.

>>9428753
>implying the left/right system is truly bipolar
>this is what the american media want you to believe

and people wonder why it's "cool" to hate on americans...

>>9428782
>implying causality

>>9428754
Glorious.

>>9428793
US can first strike China.
China can not do the same to the US

>>9428812
What this broski said. I think that soon we'll have a shortage on drinkable water, phosphates(mostly this), and food in general.

That, or some idiot country like Iran decides it's going to rid the planet from infidels

>>9428690
>They've already prepared housing...
You're not referencing the almost completely unoccupied CITIES that the Chinese government built that no one can afford to live in, are you?

>>9428793
The US will destroy China in a nuclear war.
I mean rapege.

>>9428842
>This is what Americans actually believe.
MAD.
Read it up.

>>9428812
You brought this on yourselves.

>>9428820
Sure, whatever floats your boat, man.

>>9428831

I honestly don't know what to think about Iran. Ahmadinejad is a fanatic with a growing nuclear program, sure. But in all reality, his actions are dictated by Iran's supreme council. I'm not sure if he's truly more than a puppet on a string. I definitely wouldn't take them out of the picture though.

>>9428842
Mmhmm.