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  • File : 1276399712.jpg-(162 KB, 800x533, Kissinger.jpg)
    162 KB Anonymous 06/12/10(Sat)23:28 No.6361185  
    /k/, explain the feelings you have when you see a liveleak video or a gif of a US soldier dying. Why do you think you feel this way?

    Not trolling, I just want to know how you feel... however, that pic IS there to make you rage just a little.
    >> Anonymous 06/12/10(Sat)23:31 No.6361214
    I feel a little hole in my stomach, that man out there is a good guy fighting for a good cause.

    Some blind dune coon mercilessly shot him.
    >> Law Man !!KuJDDRrt+GX 06/12/10(Sat)23:31 No.6361220
    The opposite of what I feel when I spend a couple hours on vidmax watching afghanis get blown to hell.
    >> heartbreaker !GOts63novA 06/12/10(Sat)23:32 No.6361242
    >>6361214
    >good cause
    He couldn't get a real job and he though people would think he was cool if he shot at innocent people defending their own country
    >> Anonymous 06/12/10(Sat)23:33 No.6361253
    I can feel the pure soldier's last breath through the screen, it's real uncomfortable.
    >> Anonymous 06/12/10(Sat)23:34 No.6361272
    >>6361242
    Sure is liberal in here

    Taliban? Good? Read something you uneducated fuck.

    Bin Laden and his faggots are even worse.
    >> Phil Ossiferz Stone !!SFRnrjTlVC6 06/12/10(Sat)23:35 No.6361286
    Enemy propaganda being spread by sheltered teenagers for the lulz.
    >> Anonymous 06/12/10(Sat)23:38 No.6361335
    Don't really care. At least not anymore then anyone else being killed in a .gif. Some cunt who chose to die in a foreign country made his own choice. The innocent people being bombed however, don't have much of a choice.
    >> Anonymous 06/12/10(Sat)23:46 No.6361460
    >>>/gif/3431865

    Stay and listen for a while.
    >> Anonymous 06/12/10(Sat)23:47 No.6361473
    I laugh. I hate the american military.
    >> Anonymous 06/12/10(Sat)23:49 No.6361498
    >>6361473

    Hurr durr, I hate Americans. That's a good reason for selfless soldiers giving their lives away to defend a country other than their own to die.
    >> Anonymous 06/12/10(Sat)23:50 No.6361502
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    >>6361473
    >SO EDGY AND COOL
    >> Anonymous 06/12/10(Sat)23:50 No.6361509
    The part that sucks the most is that OP's pic sums up how most of our politicians think whether they say it or not.
    >> Anonymous 06/12/10(Sat)23:54 No.6361545
    >>6361509
    Liberals anyway

    Conservatives on the other hand...
    >> Anonymous 06/12/10(Sat)23:54 No.6361550
    >>6361272

    redneck.
    >> Anonymous 06/12/10(Sat)23:55 No.6361555
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    >>6361473
    I hope a crazy man come to your hose, pulls you out as a hostage, then proceeds to nail shut the doors and windows of your house with your family inside. Then he lights it on fire, and makes you listen to them scream as they burn alive. Then I hope he lets you go free.
    >> Anonymous 06/12/10(Sat)23:55 No.6361561
    >>6361509
    Well, what Kissinger said is true. though honestly, any action a major power is going to take against any sovereign nation is going to result in sanctions and embargos so as to force us to either continue "growing the empire" or just not have done anything in the first place.

    I can tell you that if every able-bodied male in the US at age 18 were conscripted into service, no politician in DC would hesitate to subjugate a few rogue shithole nations.
    >> Anonymous 06/12/10(Sat)23:57 No.6361589
    >>6361555
    god damn...
    >> /K/ing of the Waste's !qR1DgUn3mE 06/12/10(Sat)23:59 No.6361624
    >>6361555
    nice
    >> Anonymous 06/13/10(Sun)00:00 No.6361629
    >>6361185
    Why would that pic make me rage? Kissinger was exactly right, as he was about most things.

    Military men are dumb, are stupid, are animals. They are nasty little pit bulls that need to be kept on a chain, and that chain rattled every now and again so that they'll snap and froth and make other nations fear, which means respect, which means no war.

    The LAST thing you want is the vicious animals to run loose. You have to keep your military men on a short leash, and make sure you're in control of the kibble.
    >> Anonymous 06/13/10(Sun)00:00 No.6361644
    >>6361629

    lol how's high school
    >> Anonymous 06/13/10(Sun)00:01 No.6361657
    >>6361185
    Serious answer, OP: I saw it happen in real life, so while the videos aren't fun to watch, I kind of have a, "well, that's par for the course" attitude.

    But...when someone posted a link to that Nam vet shooting the shit out of that state trooper a couple weeks back and you can hear him dying off camera...I felt my soul die a little. Feels bad, man.
    >> Anonymous 06/13/10(Sun)00:02 No.6361662
    >>6361629
    this might be true of the marines, but it's generally not true for the other branches
    >> Anonymous 06/13/10(Sun)00:02 No.6361664
    >>6361644
    lol hows butthurt that you know I'm right?
    >> Anonymous 06/13/10(Sun)00:03 No.6361680
    >>6361662
    No, I was specifically thinking of the Army and Navy. The Marines are almost totally irrelevant now, and the Air Force is such a whipped little puppy that it wets itself when Congress comes near.
    >> Anonymous 06/13/10(Sun)00:03 No.6361684
    >>6361664

    not butthurt at all, I know plenty of military folks a great deal more intelligent than you
    >> Anonymous 06/13/10(Sun)00:05 No.6361699
    >>6361185
    I feel bad when I see a US soldier die. He's a fellow American. Plus, it pains me to know that he was killed by some shitskin Muslim-zombie.

    Arab Muslims are animals. I am in favor of genocide.
    >> Anonymous 06/13/10(Sun)00:05 No.6361707
    pic doesn't make me rage

    I hate assholes who join simply out of patriotic reasons and think that any other sort service to the nation is inferior...
    >> Anonymous 06/13/10(Sun)00:05 No.6361708
    >>6361684
    I really, really doubt that.
    >> Anonymous 06/13/10(Sun)00:08 No.6361747
    >>6361708

    You can doubt it all you want, it's completely true. My buddy graduated from high school with a 4.0gpa and was accepted to columbia. Decided he'd rather go to the Naval Academy.

    Not saying that plenty of enlisted dudes aren't dumb as bricks and hungry for murder, but there are plenty who aren't.
    >> Anonymous 06/13/10(Sun)00:08 No.6361748
    >>6361629
    If soldiers are animals then so are politicians. Politicians after are all the leaders of soldiers and a leader of a pack of animals is still an animal, just a slightly smarter more ruthless one.
    >> Anonymous 06/13/10(Sun)00:09 No.6361750
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    >>6361555
    >> Anonymous 06/13/10(Sun)00:10 No.6361767
    >>6361555

    FUCK YOU

    THAT IMAGE IN MY HEAD ALMOST MADE ME CRY
    >> Anonymous 06/13/10(Sun)00:10 No.6361773
    >>6361747
    I had a 4.0 in high school too. PROTIP: It's not that hard. Acing most of our public schools is a cakewalk. It doesn't make you smart.

    PROTIP#2 Really, truly smart people don't join the military.
    >> Anonymous 06/13/10(Sun)00:10 No.6361776
    They are the ones who signed up for this shit, if they start complaining they're just showoffs, pretending something they are not.
    Soldiers die, thats the whole fucking point of them, killing others and dying for money...
    >> Anonymous 06/13/10(Sun)00:11 No.6361788
    >>6361773
    QFT +1
    >> Anonymous 06/13/10(Sun)00:12 No.6361797
    >>6361773

    No arguments here, but I doubt you got accepted into a prestigious law school too. He was an all-star kid, very smart, very nice, very polite, very well-read.
    >> Stewy 06/13/10(Sun)00:13 No.6361812
    Is there really a vid showing this? Link pl0x?
    >> Anonymous 06/13/10(Sun)00:15 No.6361826
    >>6361797
    Ah, so he was using the Academy as a resume builder.

    That is pretty clever.
    >> Anonymous 06/13/10(Sun)00:17 No.6361848
    >>6361826

    Possibly. My own dad's a pretty smart guy (makes a shit load of money in private industry now) but he went to the academy because his parents couldn't afford to pay for school.

    There's plenty of reasons to join the armed forces besides being an ape who wants to murder. If you think otherwise, you don't have experience with a range of military folks.
    >> Anonymous 06/13/10(Sun)00:22 No.6361918
    I hate it. I always hate seeing friendly or american soldiers/cops being killed.
    >> Anonymous 06/13/10(Sun)00:25 No.6361962
    >>6361848
    Ok, I think you misunderstood me.

    Yes, there's plenty of reasons for an individual citizen to join, but overall, the WHOLE of the military, the military at large, is and should be a chained dog that the politicians unleash only if necessary.

    Any nation that gives it's military too much lead usually winds up with a military government. It almost happened to us after WWII, which led to enless debacles like Korea and Vietnam.

    Sure, the politicians were blamed, but in the meantime a lot of careers were made and a lot of contracts were maintained.
    >> ColoradoCop !VvyVBShr6k 06/13/10(Sun)00:29 No.6362018
    Not good. I dunno why.
    >> Anonymous 06/13/10(Sun)00:31 No.6362062
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    >>6361918
    karmas a bitch!
    >> Anonymous 06/13/10(Sun)01:05 No.6362622
    Who is he killed by? An Afghan? An Iraqi?

    It's a shame, but it's no different when I see an Afghan being killed by US forces.

    >>6361242
    Fucking THIS
    >> Anonymous 06/13/10(Sun)01:08 No.6362656
    >>6361680
    How exactly?

    I'm interested.
    >> Anonymous 06/13/10(Sun)01:09 No.6362663
    >>6361699
    How's it feel being in ideological league with the Khmer Rouge and the Third Reich?
    >> Anonymous 06/13/10(Sun)01:10 No.6362673
    >>6361962

    It's an institution designed to train people to destroy and conquer. It does draw some people with a serious killer instinct or jingoistic love of country, but to be fair, it has many advantages on its side when it comes to suckering folks in, including indoctrination from an early age.

    There is no need to hate the military. It is a crucially important institution for any nation that plays a major part on the world stage.
    >> Anonymous 06/13/10(Sun)01:16 No.6362724
    I feel bad for the guy.

    I'm not a patriot and I don't give a shit about politics, but this is my home. I live here, and it's the only place I've got.

    and that guy decided to take a risk and possibly get hurt or killed because he wanted to keep our home safe.

    whether or not what he's doing is keeping us safe or whatever is a question for the politicians, not for he or I, but at the gut level, that's the general decision he was making. trading himself for the rest of us.

    that's called being noble, faggots.
    >> Anonymous 06/13/10(Sun)01:16 No.6362729
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    ITT: Butthurt proud Murikan'ts see that they're mortal and show their true colors.
    >> Anonymous 06/13/10(Sun)01:20 No.6362779
    Don`t care, the guy joined and knew the risks.
    >> Anonymous 06/13/10(Sun)01:26 No.6362837
    ITT: BAWWWWW WE'RE LOSING!!!
    >> Anonymous 06/13/10(Sun)01:37 No.6362972
    I've got lots of respect for a lot of the older vets I've met over the years.

    But for every kick ass old guy who was in the armed forces, there's some delusional little punk-ass from my generation, who makes me believe that 99% aren't fit for re-introduction into society.
    >> Anonymous 06/13/10(Sun)01:39 No.6362992
    >>6362972
    What about when you see them die?
    >> anon 06/13/10(Sun)01:52 No.6363178
    Stoopid freakin YID
    >> Anonymous 06/13/10(Sun)01:54 No.6363201
    >>6362992

    The young ones?

    It makes me feel the world is a bit safer, honestly. Most of them partake in needlessly violent activities, or seem fucking off-center in some way.
    >> VIPPER 06/13/10(Sun)01:57 No.6363236
    it's a cryin' shame to have a good young man die, but what the fuck did you expect

    CANADA STRONG
    >> Anonymous 06/13/10(Sun)02:28 No.6363652
    It pisses me off because the bullshit organizations that watch us like a hawk and scream "WAR CRIME!" every time we kill someone cause us to have such highly restricted ROE, which just leads to more needless deaths.
    >> Anonymous 06/13/10(Sun)02:38 No.6363752
    yallniggaspostininatrollthread.jpg

    /thread
    >> Anonymous 06/13/10(Sun)02:44 No.6363802
    >>6361185

    I feel sorry for the person shot and hatred for the one doing the shooting.

    I fell this way because I have empathy.
    >> Anonymous 06/13/10(Sun)03:31 No.6364163
    >>6361242

    >implying that Muslims actually have countries to be proud of and defend

    Anyone that even mildly supports the insurgencies in the Middle East can go suck a fat militant Islamic cock. These oh-so glorious freedom fighters are the epitome of what 4chan despises; backwards, fucked up, cruel religious zealots. They don't aim their AKs because they believe Allah will guide the bullets. They don't maintain their weapons or equipment because "if Allah wills it, they will work". They ban kite flying, listening to music, dancing, holding hands, computers, and cell phones. They wed 8 year olds to elderly men. They trample hundreds of their own every year because they get so excited running around the fucking rubiks cube in Mecca. They kill kids in front of their families simply for having American currency in their house. You all would have a different opinion (or be decapitated in a canal somewhere) if you had to spend a week in Chechnya or Helmand Province. I don't expect people to be all AMERIKA FUK YEAAH about war, but a little common sense and recognizing the ENEMY for what they are is in order.
    >> Anonymous 06/13/10(Sun)05:45 No.6365094
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    >>6364163
    >> Anonymous 06/13/10(Sun)05:47 No.6365105
    >>6361185
    Regret. I have trouble cheering for the death of any live human being.
    >> Anonymous 06/13/10(Sun)05:49 No.6365116
    I feel terribly sad, like if he was my best friend, after seeing this kind of video I can't stop crying for hours...
    I hate when someone kill US soldiers, that's like when someone eat the last part of cake, I want to kill them myself and I can't kill the ones who are dead
    >> Anonymous 06/13/10(Sun)05:51 No.6365124
    >>6365094
    well played sir, well played
    >> un/k/nownuser !xgoF0DK9GQ 06/13/10(Sun)05:51 No.6365128
    i dont care if its a video of a rag head or american being killed. both can be entertaining.
    my question for americans.
    what's the difference for you between american helicopter pilots killing sometimes innocent people (lol crazy horse) and arab combatants killing american combatants?
    theyre payed and trained to be in that situation.
    >> Anonymous 06/13/10(Sun)05:53 No.6365135
    >>6365128
    It's us killing enemy civilians or enemy combatants killing us. Remember that each of our soldiers should be worth a million foes.
    >> Anonymous 06/13/10(Sun)05:55 No.6365145
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    >>6365135
    This is not Starcraft. US soldiers and marines are not Zealots taking on Zerglings.
    >> un/k/nownuser !xgoF0DK9GQ 06/13/10(Sun)05:57 No.6365157
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    >>6365145
    >US soldiers and marines are not Zealots
    >> Anonymous 06/13/10(Sun)05:58 No.6365159
    I'm a US Serviceman who was raised in a household of conscentious objectors. I made a conscious decision to join the military. A lot of thought went into it and I do not regret my choice. I will say that there are a lot of people who say "Kill em, kill em all!" but there are those of us who joined to defend those we love. And before you ask who are we defending you from? Just think of it this way, the people who are killing us over in the middle east, would be over in the US killing you if we weren't over there keeping them distracted.

    tl;dr: You still alive because we're dying for you.

    Also, a quote: Politicians are just as integral in starting a war as soldiers are in finishing it.
    >> Anonymous 06/13/10(Sun)06:01 No.6365172
    >>6365159
    >the people who are killing us over in the middle east, would be over in the US killing you if we weren't over there keeping them distracted.
    No, the people who are killing you over in the middle east, would be over in the US killing american people if you weren't over there keeping them distracted
    And that's exactly why I hate you
    >> Anonymous 06/13/10(Sun)06:01 No.6365173
    recoil.
    >> un/k/nownuser !xgoF0DK9GQ 06/13/10(Sun)06:02 No.6365174
    >>6365159
    you realise those ragheads wouldnt want to kill you in the 1st place if your government just minded its own business, right?
    >> Anonymous 06/13/10(Sun)06:04 No.6365185
    >>6365174
    Histroy begs to differ. They'd be trying to kill us anyways, since we're 'infidels'. Admittedly that seems to be a common trend in almost any religion with a single diety.
    >> Anonymous 06/13/10(Sun)06:05 No.6365191
    >>6365159
    So are you saying all your comrades are dying for is to get Mohammed bin Durkadurka to change his jihad vacation from New York to Kabul?
    Are you telling me the only reason why they are not attacking America is because they choose not to by opting for US servicemen dangled like bait in their own back yards?
    >> Anonymous 06/13/10(Sun)06:06 No.6365192
    >>6365185
    Why don't they attack me while I'm an infidel?
    Oh yes, maybe because my country don't piss off every other country and mind its own buisness
    >> Anonymous 06/13/10(Sun)06:07 No.6365201
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    >>6365157
    Heh.

    >>6365159
    >he thinks that a bunch of durkas could actually get over here and kill people
    >he thinks they gave a shit about the US before 2001
    >he believes the shit they told him in indoc
    Open your eyes (and see that they are open), stop being a faggot, realize that you're just a fucking murderous dog on the leash of a handful of politicians and businessmen, and stop with the ITG act. You are a brain washed moron if you actually believe the shit they told you.
    >> Anonymous 06/13/10(Sun)06:12 No.6365226
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    >>6362663
    Feels good brah

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HfLvP2jTVq8
    >> Anonymous 06/13/10(Sun)06:19 No.6365248
    >>6365185
    >Histroy begs to differ.
    Really? As I recall, it was not them who launched Jihads into Christendom, nor did the they have any religious problems with the west for all the time after the crusades until very recently.
    As for American presence and intervention in the region, remember that almost all governments in the region are dictatorships or oppressive in some form or other but only a small handful of those countries are not supported by the US. Of course the US would want you to believe that these few countries that they do not support are the root of the problem instead of our supposed "allies" in the region.
    http://news.bbc.co.uk/go/rss/-/1/hi/world/south_asia/10302946.stm
    Here's the latest news on our faithful ally showing its gratitude for the billions of dollars we've given them to fight the Taliban.
    >> Anonymous 06/13/10(Sun)06:29 No.6365295
    America's corporations fuck over other countries, thus America is attacked by these countries in the form of terrorism and then America attacks them claiming "They hate how we are free lulz".
    >> Anonymous 06/13/10(Sun)06:32 No.6365325
    >>6361185
    I think of a misguided young man, who believed what the movies and TV ads told him, dying for a vague cause and, ultimately, not for the benefit of his country.
    In peacetime, a patriot aids his country through work, not through arms.
    >> Samopal !vXoJeji1A6 06/13/10(Sun)06:33 No.6365329
    I feel the same way as I do when I see anyone else die.

    "Oh well, that sucks."

    Seriously, American soldiers aren't angels. They aren't special.

    I can kinda understand why Americans would mourn a dead American over anyone else but why do so many foreigners hold Americans in such a high regard?

    Even in Canada I know people who wade through the news and just ignore dead Brits, Iraqis, etc... but when a US soldier dies suddenly it's a terrible loss.

    WTF? They're just people.
    >> Anonymous 06/13/10(Sun)06:37 No.6365350
    >>6365329
    That's just because you are Canadian and spineless or hang out with the wrong people. For every other country in the ISAF my losses > your losses.
    >> Anonymous 06/13/10(Sun)06:39 No.6365364
    >>6365329
    Its because they're YOUR people. What you're saying is that if someone murdered your family you would just be like "Oh well that sucks" because they're JUST people. They care because that could have just as easily been someone they know
    >> Anonymous 06/13/10(Sun)13:46 No.6367533
    >BAWWWWW
    >> Anonymous 06/13/10(Sun)13:49 No.6367555
    >>6365325
    Patriot always takes up arms, no matter the reason.
    >> Anonymous 06/13/10(Sun)13:50 No.6367566
    >>6367533
    why bump this you cunt
    >> Anonymous 06/13/10(Sun)13:51 No.6367573
    There are some people that it genuinely disgusts me to see walking free instead of at the wrong end of a rope. Kissinger's one of them. Truly, genuinely fucking evil. I don't just "disagree politically"-the man is fucking evil.
    >> Anonymous 06/13/10(Sun)13:54 No.6367596
    I feel rather angry. I don't know why, maybe it's my developing sense of national pride idk. It's probably because he was killed by some sexist, racist zealot asshole.
    >> Anonymous 06/13/10(Sun)14:02 No.6367628
    I basically agree with Mr. Kissinger.

    Humans are in no short supply.

    Soldiers are easily replaced so that they may serve the needs of the society they are part of and those who control said society.
    >> Anonymous 06/13/10(Sun)14:04 No.6367639
    >>6367555
    Not sure if troll or idiot.
    >> Anonymous 06/13/10(Sun)14:06 No.6367652
    >>6361498
    >implying that regular US soldiers are selfless and really gives a shit about our country

    i bet most soldiers just consider it a job
    >> Anonymous 06/13/10(Sun)14:07 No.6367653
    >>6367573
    Despite this he is likely smarter than you or me.

    And he shaped national policy, not us proles.
    Some of us shut up and do what we're told because we're cowards (like me).

    Others shut up and do what they are told because they've dense enough to believe it their masters ( like patriots).
    >> Anonymous 06/13/10(Sun)14:08 No.6367664
    oh and 10/10 OP
    >> Anonymous 06/13/10(Sun)14:10 No.6367683
    taliban are just defending their country like proud country men, way more patriotic than all americans so shut the fuck up.
    >> Anonymous 06/13/10(Sun)14:11 No.6367695
    >>6367683
    This does not mean they are not the enemy.
    >> Anonymous 06/13/10(Sun)14:12 No.6367701
    >>6367652

    then you're an idiot.

    next question.
    >> Anonymous 06/13/10(Sun)14:13 No.6367706
    I get a creepy feeling whenever i see any human die. Weird shit man. It must be terrifying to have death be imminent.
    >> Anonymous 06/13/10(Sun)14:16 No.6367719
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    >>6367706
    The Holy Koran says:
    Compassion for your brothers, brutality towards your enemy.
    >> Anonymous 06/13/10(Sun)14:18 No.6367730
    >>6367695
    This does not mean we are the good guys.
    >> Anonymous 06/13/10(Sun)14:19 No.6367738
    >>6367719
    >implying whoever wrote the koran wasn't on drugs
    The taliban have no justification for doing what they do. They are the "bad guys" every why you look at them.
    >> Anonymous 06/13/10(Sun)14:21 No.6367753
    >>6367738
    >implying that what we do is any better
    >> Anonymous 06/13/10(Sun)14:22 No.6367758
    >>6367738
    >drugs

    Revelations...
    >> Anonymous 06/13/10(Sun)14:25 No.6367779
    >>6367753
    We don't behead people or suicide bomb hospitals and schools. All military's perpetrate some atrocities. Taliban is just pure evil.
    >> Anonymous 06/13/10(Sun)14:26 No.6367786
    >>6367779
    But we DO bomb hospitals and schools
    >> Anonymous 06/13/10(Sun)14:26 No.6367787
    >>6367730
    There are no good guys. We are just fighting for our way of life, as are they.
    If we wish to exist, they must be destroyed. It is simple. There is no good and evil.

    That quote from the Koran is perfect. We do not understand why our emotions are there. Compassion is not there to cripple you. Its there to help you form allies, and a stronger bond with your family, tribe or like minded people.
    >> Freedom Stalker !EnJhCCu3Ns 06/13/10(Sun)14:30 No.6367816
    I honestly don't care.

    They knew the US government was a dangerous group of criminals. Yet they still joined.
    >> Anonymous 06/13/10(Sun)14:31 No.6367819
    >>6367786
    Not with the same intentions.



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