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    104 KB For Vets.....off topic. Sorry. Anonymous 04/27/10(Tue)20:29 No.5861425  
    Hey, have you guys had trouble adjusting to civilian life?

    I sure have.
    >> Purple Drank !!oDJX+uGRilX 04/27/10(Tue)20:31 No.5861446
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    just be a sheepdog, like him
    >> Shoefag 04/27/10(Tue)20:31 No.5861447
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    Right after I got back, yeah. Driving was the hardest thing to get used to again.

    My sleep cycle is still fucked to all hell, and I automatically distrust people that smell like Iraqis.

    Branch/MOS/rank/EAS?
    >> Anonymous 04/27/10(Tue)20:31 No.5861448
    Same here.

    20 years, then suddenly commissaries are called grocery stores.
    >> Anonymous 04/27/10(Tue)20:32 No.5861453
    You were a civilian before you were in the service, I don't see how you "can't" adjust to it.
    >> Anonymous 04/27/10(Tue)20:32 No.5861461
    >>5861453

    ...come back from combat tour and then tell me to.
    >> Anonymous 04/27/10(Tue)20:34 No.5861475
    >>5861453

    Raised by parents who were in the military, then joined the military.
    Booze is expensive, what?
    >> Anonymous 04/27/10(Tue)20:34 No.5861476
    >>5861461

    Who said I haven't? Stop being such a over dramatic pussy, and deal with it. You know how to drive a car, you know how to walk and talk, and you know how to be a human being. You don't forget these things after your tour is up.
    >> theRedSkull !uxLC4tIV1w 04/27/10(Tue)20:35 No.5861487
    >>5861425
    no, not at all...
    *sarcasm
    >> Shoefag 04/27/10(Tue)20:37 No.5861502
    >>5861453
    A lot of guys join right out of high school. They are young and dumb, ripe for indoctrination. Most combat MOS units are such that you literally live in an entirely seperate society. Civilians are like creatures you see at the zoo when you actually get libo. You eat, sleep, breath, and shit your job most of the time.

    When they cut you loose at the end of your enlistment, you feel pretty isolated. No bros, no carrying a rifle everywhere, no uniform or grooming standards. It's not impossible....just saying it doesn't happen overnight.
    >> Get Some !!GSitMjJ7IIj 04/27/10(Tue)20:37 No.5861503
    Sleeping was hard to do for the first two weeks after coming back from a deployment. Every noise was a reason to be alert and every voice was something that I couldn't help but listen to.

    Other than the sleep thing, it's alright.
    >> Anonymous 04/27/10(Tue)20:38 No.5861512
    >>5861476
    Oh yeah, driving is just fucking fantastic over in Afghan.

    My buddies an 88m. When he sees a fucking bag of trash on the side of the road he slams on the damn brakes.
    >> Anonymous 04/27/10(Tue)20:38 No.5861515
    >>5861447
    I was an MA2 in the Navy. Spent time at Bahrain, which was fucking cake, and then spent the last couple years in Guantanamo Bay.

    >>5861453
    It's just weird. I'm trying to think of a way to explain it, but I'll probably fail. It's like the entire structure of life is different. The way you think needs to be different, the way you work needs to be different, the way you interact with authority and subordinates needs to be different...I guess I was much more indoctrinated than I thought I was. There's also A LOT of Muslims on my campus. Way more than I've ever seen in the states before. There are guys that look exactly like detainees, speak Arabic, Farsi, Pashtu, French, whatever, and I can't help but feel like I should tackle them before they hurt themselves or someone else.
    >> Anonymous 04/27/10(Tue)20:39 No.5861525
    My vehicle no longer has a 120mm. Damn it.
    >> Shoefag 04/27/10(Tue)20:41 No.5861544
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    >>5861515
    >MA2
    Haha. I've trained MA's before. I certainly hope you held yourself to a higher standard than the average MA bro. I'm not much of a branch vs. branch instigator, but they were the worst excuse of military personnel I have ever seen. Then again, 95% of them were boots. There were a couple 2nd termers who actually knew their ass from a hole in the ground, and how to actually hold a rifle...then again, some of them were insufferable cunts.

    Glad you made it out though bro.
    >> Anonymous 04/27/10(Tue)20:42 No.5861552
    After having my license revoked, the thing I miss most is the euthanasia. When I'm in the grocery store, and I see those little old ladies with their yipping little Yorkshire Terriers in a bag, I think to myself, if only...
    >> theRedSkull !uxLC4tIV1w 04/27/10(Tue)20:43 No.5861558
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    >>5861502
    truth.
    >> Anonymous 04/27/10(Tue)20:45 No.5861584
    YOU CANT JUST TURN IT OFFF
    >> Scarecrow !!9MRMqY/LI2f 04/27/10(Tue)20:50 No.5861617
    I'll find out in about 3 months if I'm even capable of relating to civilian life anymore.
    >> Anonymous 04/27/10(Tue)20:51 No.5861633
    >>5861544
    I don't have much to brag about, or claim that I was different. I went to BUD/S early on and quit during Hell Week. Had to spend an extra year in because of how long I went before I quit, but oh well. I stayed in much better shape than most MA's. Most MA's struggle to pass the Navy PRT with a Good score, which is pathetic. I carried a M16, M14, M4, M9, MK43, and the M500. I used to be on the Forced Cell Extraction Team in a couple different camps in gitmo. That was fun. Used a shotgun with crowd control and point control less than lethals. The worst was OC spray. I fucking hate that shit so much. I threw up all over some terrorist during an FCE. We doused his cell with OC spray because he pulled in his chains while we were trying to cuff him and bashed out his cell windows. Tried to choke my buddy to death with them during the FCE. I dove in, tackled his legs, and tried holding my breath for a few seconds because of the OC. Then I took a breath and immediately puked my lunch I just ate 10 minutes beforehand all over him.
    >> Anonymous 04/27/10(Tue)20:52 No.5861640
    1. buy M1 Carbine
    2. get pulled over
    3. problem officer?
    4. ???
    5. profit
    >> Anonymous 04/27/10(Tue)20:53 No.5861648
    >>5861633
    >Used a shotgun with crowd control and point control less than lethals.

    Whoops, I just read that and it made it seem like we carried shotguns into the FCEs, which we didn't. We went in unarmed or with OC spray.
    >> Alchoholics Anonymous 04/27/10(Tue)20:54 No.5861656
    >>5861633
    >Puked all over the terrorist.
    You turned that into a kinda win
    >> Grande Cinco !!pqyu71RL0Bg 04/27/10(Tue)20:55 No.5861672
    >>5861640

    gtfo
    >> Anonymous 04/27/10(Tue)20:56 No.5861680
    >>5861633
    ...don't suppose you ate bacon for lunch?
    >> Anonymous 04/27/10(Tue)21:00 No.5861720
    has anyone found it hard to live with shooting anyone?

    What does the armed services do to help people re-adjust?
    >> Shoefag 04/27/10(Tue)21:03 No.5861742
    >>5861720
    "Warrior Transition" classes. Make you sit in a fucking class for hours and hours your first couple days back, getting classes on indicators and effects of PTSD, where to get help. Bottom line is "talk to someone." They bring a lot of Nam vets in to talk about it. I met a dude from 1/9 when they earned their reputation, another old timer who stormed Iwo when he was 17. He cracked jokes, didn't really seem to realize why he was there.

    I didn't feel worthy to be in the same room as them.
    >> Anonymous 04/27/10(Tue)21:04 No.5861750
    >>5861742

    Sure the types of jobs american sodliers are doing in the middle east are different to ww2 or Nam, but surely there's still tales of heroism?
    >> theRedSkull !uxLC4tIV1w 04/27/10(Tue)21:23 No.5861879
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    >>5861750
    of course there are, but they rarely go noticed, i knew a medic who ran out after a mortar strike in PT shorts and his aid bag, he saved two of the incoming unit's guys... guess what he got? well since our S-1 Shop was mostly down and he was just an E2 they used it for his end of tour AAM...
    >> Anonymous 04/27/10(Tue)22:04 No.5862219
    >>5861879

    I don't know what that last part means, but i'm guessing the guy basically got an 'atta boy'.

    >of course there are, but they rarely go noticed
    Could one of the reasons for this, the diff between WW" and now, and don't take this the wrong way, be that the US needed to put people on the front page, heroes to encourage support for the war, and to get people to buy war bonds, whereas now, they want to keep it all quiet?
    >> Anonymous 04/27/10(Tue)22:05 No.5862230
    >>5862219

    It's all politics. The bar for a MOH is so incredibly high right now that you need to die to get one.
    >> theRedSkull !uxLC4tIV1w 04/27/10(Tue)22:08 No.5862249
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    >>5862219
    medals are controlled very tightly, and based on rank mostly...
    but i do think the popularity of these fights has effected it, patriotism isnt cool...
    >> Scarecrow !!9MRMqY/LI2f 04/27/10(Tue)22:08 No.5862250
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    >>5862219

    Hippies made war a shameful thing. Now any sort of glorification is considered to be warmongering and hate.
    >> Anonymous 04/27/10(Tue)22:15 No.5862309
    >>5862250

    It's a damn shame how one generation of drug using lazy bastards managed to damage our country, and I don't just mean the whole hippy movement, look at dick cheney
    >> Anonymous 04/27/10(Tue)22:18 No.5862338
    >>5862309
    >>5862250
    >>5862249

    Here here
    >> Anonymous 04/27/10(Tue)22:22 No.5862385
    >>5862249

    Red you got some fruit salad on your class A don't ya?
    >> theRedSkull !uxLC4tIV1w 04/27/10(Tue)22:28 No.5862426
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    >>5862385
    yeah, but they are all gimme medals...
    its actually old, i havent changed it for years, no one noticed, i mean i avoided the promotion board like AIDs, lol...
    >> Anonymous 04/27/10(Tue)22:30 No.5862456
    >>5861742
    We had a vietnam vet that had one arm and no legs. How do you respond to that when they call you a hero? Makes you feel like shit.

    Driving was hard for a while. Not the act of driving, but the way other people on the road behaved. It's like 'FUCKING GO' or 'WHAT THE FUCK ARE YOU CHANGING LANES FOR?' Same way with lines and waiting. You get so used to seemingly endless lines and 'hurry up and wait' that when you see people get frustrated at lines 5 deep and a 5 minute wait, it seems trivial to the point of disgust.

    For a while the only people I could interact with were other vets and people considered hardasses. It grates on you when there's something that needs done sitting right in front of you, and people dick around and halfass easy stuff.

    I did a lot of drinking. Some stuff never went away though. Issues dealing with people. I can't respect fat people in any capacity anymore. When dealing with shitbags, the 'get mad' phase turns into 'get violent' a lot sooner. Any shoes that aren't full boots feel flimsy and exposed.

    Everyone's problems seem so trivial and padded. The safety buffers seem so huge in comparison. I kept wondering how anybody ever got hurt with as padded and impossible to fuck up everything was.
    >> Anonymous 04/27/10(Tue)22:32 No.5862470
    >>5862426

    Mehh I got a uncle who is a Colonel in the airforce with about that much, also I heard they are going to phase out the army greens, I know your out but any knowledge on the subject
    >> Scarecrow !!9MRMqY/LI2f 04/27/10(Tue)22:35 No.5862513
    >>5862456

    Precisely the reason I feel like a douchebag every time I go to the VFW. Rather face an IED gauntlet than try and trade war stories with some of these guys. I'm just constantly awestruck.
    >> theRedSkull !uxLC4tIV1w 04/27/10(Tue)22:37 No.5862528
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    >>5862470
    yes, they keep pushing the date back for the new Class A's, they look hideous...
    >> Anonymous 04/27/10(Tue)22:37 No.5862532
    >>5862470

    we wont have to worry about that until we leave Afghanistan.
    >> theRedSkull !uxLC4tIV1w 04/27/10(Tue)22:38 No.5862540
    >>5862513
    i just dont go...
    >> Anonymous 04/27/10(Tue)22:38 No.5862545
    >>5862528

    *vomit*
    >> Anonymous 04/27/10(Tue)22:38 No.5862551
    >>5862528

    that is fucking hideous I understand it's not a fashion show but that is just plain retarded
    >> Scarecrow !!9MRMqY/LI2f 04/27/10(Tue)22:38 No.5862552
    >>5862528

    Soooo glad I'm out before those become mandatory. I much prefer green. I just wonder why they picked fucking BLUE again. . .steel grey would have been way classier. Chimps.
    >> Anonymous 04/27/10(Tue)22:39 No.5862559
    >88U in the Army
    >Now work for Amtrak
    What change?
    >> Anonymous 04/27/10(Tue)22:40 No.5862575
    >>5862528

    are they honestly trying to do that?
    >> Anonymous 04/27/10(Tue)22:42 No.5862598
    Civilian cockbag here, how can we help you adjust to not being tools?
    >> Anonymous 04/27/10(Tue)22:43 No.5862613
    >>5862598

    by not treating use like tools for starters
    >> Anonymous 04/27/10(Tue)22:44 No.5862624
    >>5862613

    *us
    >> theRedSkull !uxLC4tIV1w 04/27/10(Tue)22:45 No.5862633
    >>5862575
    >>5862552
    >>5862551
    >>5862545
    yeah its terrible to behold, i dont even like the dress blues they have and i still want to see an officer take advantage of the "cloak" section of 670-1 (male officers may wear this bizarre half cloak thing, but none do because they will be laughed at and i have never even seen one)...
    but i feel sorry for anyone that has to wear that (oh lets not forget that they must pay for it out of their yearly clothing allowance, in fact they say they will give a lump sum bonus the year they go into effect, but it wont defray the cost much at all)...
    >> theRedSkull !uxLC4tIV1w 04/27/10(Tue)22:47 No.5862653
    >>5862598
    dont be dicks, we are just like you...
    >> Anonymous 04/27/10(Tue)22:47 No.5862661
    >>5862633

    That makes me almost regret my choice for choosing the army over marines
    >> Scarecrow !!9MRMqY/LI2f 04/27/10(Tue)22:48 No.5862666
    >>5862598

    Not spitting on me is a good start.



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