duh

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>>11653755
The first few are a little bad, new camera and I couldn't figure it out.

Did you get to see a bunch of European firearms the NRA helps keep blocked from import and a bunch of transferrable machine guns the NRA helps keep priced sky high by supporting the post-'86 MG ban?

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They had Anne Oakley's shit.

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>>11653786
>Implying I'm an NRA member
>Implying admission isn't free
Won't support the NRA, but free is free yo.

More military surplus guns plz

>>11653786
If the import rifles where aloud to be imported it would drive American firearm manufacturers out of business. Do you really want to drive more manufacturers out of the US?

>>11653851
So, in short, the US economy can't have competition in order to stay afloat?

>>11653851

No it wouldn't. They existed in the days of cheap imports before. The only ones that would go out of business would be the ones that suck. The only one that is dangerous to them is Norinco and other Chinese manufacturers anyway.

Currently the market inflates prices artificially.

I don't really care about new Chinese stuff. I want all of the older guns that are being prevented from import like SVD's, ACTUAL complete foriegn made AK's, shotguns with more than 5 round mags, etc.

FUCK 922

OP where are the pics of non-fudd firearms?

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This is the rich white old faggot that owned all of these and the next 2 pics worth of shit

>>11653851
Yes. The right to keep and bear arms > some corporation's bottom line.

>>11653886
The US work force can't compete with slave labor of the third world.

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>>11653906
There aren't many, I noticed that while I was there. Wait till you see the wall o' 1911's.

>>11653919

That is only because of market controls by the government in the US. (which a large portion of NRA members support BTW, the fucktards)

Search your feelings, you know it to be true.

Lets see some spaceships.

>>11653871

Is that the Bastard Gun from Metro 2033 in it's original form? I swear that gun could've been based off of #18.

>>11653933

Hmmm, I've never been there. The videos they post on youtube about their guns seems to indicate a large portion of them ARE milsurps, but considering the tastes of the average NRA member, it figures...

If I'm in the area, would you recommend going? I know it's free, but I'd still have to drive, and it's take time and stuff.

>>11653851
No, it would not. And if it did, that's what they get for being too shitty to compete. This protectionist bullshit isn't helping anybody. The stagnation is fucking sickening.

>>11653895
>The only ones that would go out of business would be the ones that suck.

Exactly. Norinco alone would put Springfield Armory out of business, they make M14s and 1911s of the same (arguably) quality for 1/4 the price.

>I want all of the older guns that are being prevented from import like SVD's, ACTUAL complete foriegn made AK's, shotguns with more than 5 round mags, etc.

I'd like real SIG rifles, PPKs, CZ rifles, etc... Lifting the retarded ban would probably also get HK to start making proper civilian versions of their weapons again.

>new HK91s and HK93s
>new P7s
>semiauto G36s and UMPs

>>11653918
That not really relevant to the topic or make a lot of sense. Sounds edgy though...

>>11653940
Eh not really. To a degree yes prices are inflated with no girth given to the profit margins. The real thing driving up prices is weak american dollar and people buying them up at the high prices. Wait till you younger guys here see the prices after Obama gets reelected

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>>11653960
You'll get your spaceships later in the thread, now is the NRA headquarters.

>>11653919
I didn't really think that surplus firearms from a war that happened 50+ years ago were created by means of slave labor in all but a few cases. Even now, the Us can't stand to have their own property imported in fear of prices dropping to the point where no profit can be had for the greedy.

>>11653919
They would be able to if American products were of higher quality than shit made with slave labor. But they're not. That's the problem.

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>>11653969
>>11653969
Totally worth the drive. Air and Space museum is down the road too so you can hit both in the same afternoon.

>>11653979
And how does Nornico get the prices so low? Oh inhumane labor laws...

>>11653987
>Huurrrr no company should make money ever..
This mind set will kill the middle class

>>11653998
Thats just silly.

>>11654008
JML, I'm in the thread now, just to reply to your message. Udvar-Hazy still good? I'm going in a week or two

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This was a neat piece, I'll post the description placard next.

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I'm not the guy dumping, nor is this from the NRA Museum (But I love that place) but I present..... the Iwo Jima commemorative M1 Garand!
Pic 1/3
>Captcha 2,375,963 andfifi
Captcha wants me to kill 2.3 million Japs? Cool with.....
>andfifi
And fifi?
YOU MONSTER!

>>11654027
Be honest; what would you rather have? A world where your country's economy can compete with foreign influence all while keeping afloat with a low cost of living, or a world where your economy must have a monopoly on all of the goods that it needs while contributing to a high cost of living?

With the first option comes $300 M1 Garands, with the second option comes $700 M1 Garands.

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>>11654046
Yup, they added some more shit since I went there last summer.

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Gyrojets!

>>11653982

Yes, really. Minimum wage laws, high taxes on corporations, ridiculous regulations about pointless shit, etc. in the US are what I'm talking about.

Actually, the gun industry should be sheltered from the effects of cheap overseas labor more so than other industries due to the high amount of skilled labor building quality firearms requires. Overseas labor for a lot of the manufacturing process would be cheaper to outsource, but most of the engineering and skilled labor required would have to come from 1st world countries.

The import bans and NFA are only hurting people. I couldn't give 2 shits if Bluecollar McFudd had a job vs. some poor moron in Eastern Europe. If the US manufacturers can't compete, then they deserve to fail. I know many of them can though. US gun industry STRONG.

If the import bans and the NFA were lifted, the advances in the firearm industry worldwide would be amazing.

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They had a lightsaber too.

>>11654084
While some tasty $300 M1 Gerands would be nice the hidden cost would be too high.

Better question, would you rather have $300 Gerands or Ruger, Remington, Springfield, and Winchester still making rifles?

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2/3

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DEAGLE BRAND DEAGLE

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>>11654104
Aww shit, I know where I'm going.

>>11654108
> Bluecollar McFudd had a job vs. some poor moron in Eastern Europe
And that mind set will have us waiting in line for food handouts in $50 years.

>>11654123
Y'know I'd rather have $300 Garands, not Gerands, which are obviously Chinese knockoffs due to the clever name

>>11654138
Woah, what? Is that custom or have deagle brand deagles been available with wood grips?

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3/3

>>11654151
Ha got me on that, dunno what I was thinking

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4/3, special retardation prize.
Because yes, that's a M60's cupola on an "Easy Eight"

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>>11654159
Can anyone tell me what the fuck is up with the gun above the M-4 there?

>>11654123
I would like to have the same companies located here to begin producing quality products once more. A bit of competition might make that happen and everyone could be happy.

>>11654123

Ruger would still be making rifles. Their guns are already cheap as fuck and of respectable quality. Fucking EVERYONE has a US made 10/22.

The other companies you just list already basically are just importers. So yeah...

You also have to realize that the overall availability and variety of firearms would be greater without those import bans. Just because cheap firearms would be imported does not mean that US innovation and manufacturing will cease and we will no longer have the guns that are available now. there will be the same one and more, and the cost of them will be lower.

tl;dr: I'll take my $300 Garands.

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WALL O' 1911's (Minus a few that were taken out for some reason)

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>>11654184
that's not an "Easy Eight"

>>11654149

Except it won't because the economy will stabilize and those people (well, and approx. equal number of people anyway) would be doing a job that is more efficient to be done here instead, and thus the overall economy will be better off.

The only thing that would cause what you say to happen is Government handouts preventing people from wanting to work, which is already happening at an increasing rate, FML.

Import bans actually contribute to a poorer economy because what work is being done is less efficient generally.

>learn to into economics

>>11654190
What? Are you saying Ruger, Winchester, ect ect don't make quality products


Also all you slave shit bros that think the market will be flooded with top quality $200 AKs are crazy. You'd be getting shitty $500 monkey welded shit.

>>11654196
> basically are just importers
But thats wrong, did you just make that up?
>Just because cheap firearms would be imported does not mean that US innovation and manufacturing will cease
But in every other industry where cheap imports have come in have shut out American good, hell shut out quality good all together. Have you gone appliance shopping lately? The American public has spoken, cheap shit over good stuff everyday. Search your local walmart, you know its true!

Hey OP, did you get to go to the firing range in the basement?

>>11653919
someone ban this dumb nigger, first he bawwws because nobody in a tinychat liked 10mm then he claims import guns are made by slave labor.

>>11654260
>would be doing a job that is more efficient to be done here instead
So if have no industry jobs left, what will 300+ million people do thats more efficient here?
>Learn to long term outlook

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>>11654266
I didn't, I'm NOGUNZ.

>>11654271
>claims import guns are made by slave labor
I guess you think your smart phone was made by skilled well paid craftsman in Twain too huh?

Where is the pics of that Jap Type4/5 which is a Garand copy?

>>11654264
But we already do have $500 AKs. Bordering on $600, currently.

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fucking captcha

>>11654242
I put it in quotes, because it was called an Easy Eight, but it really isn't.
It made me made, because the rest of the stuff was pretty accurate.

>>11654298
>Twain by that I'm assuming you mean Taiwan, and yes labor in Taiwan is skilled compared to other east Asian nations such as Malaysia and Singapore, even though my phone was actually made in S. Korea (LG)

But that's beside the point that very few import guns with the exception of some late war German K98's and Chinese Type-53 Mosin Nagants were made with slave labor.

>>11654264
>cheap shit over good stuff everyday

better for the money, so it IS more good

>Remington, Springfield, and Winchester

A HUGE portion of Remington's product line are imports from random sources.

A majority of Springfield's product line are imports. The XD is made in Crotia and their 1911's are made in Brazil for example.

Winchester firearms are essentially ALL made overseas (primarily Japan), except for the Model 70 which is being made in SC (one of the few competitive states for manufacturing due to non-retarded laws)

Your favorite 'all American' gun companies are no more and have been that way for many years. Manufacturing is outsourced by them to Japan, South America, and Eastern Europe. (notice that these are not shit tier countries in terms of labor, their laws are just less stupid about labor than ours)

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>>11654362
>>11654361
Would you faggots stop bitching and enjoy the pics plz?

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>>11654355
Hah. I'm an idiot. I meant to say mad.

>>11654264
Remington and Winchester are buying out foreign companies so they can charge more for their imported guns.

Remington bought out Baikal so they could sell what would be a $350 shotgun for ~$800.

>>11654361
>Foxconn
Go work there and tell me how it is, that is if you last a week before killing yourself.

>>11654404
Give this man a clip so he can do some damage!

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>>11654382
The bookstore at the NRA museum had a Mauser C96 Broomhandle for like $200.
Looking back, it was probably deactivated.
Sad anon is sad.

>>11654419
What's the bottom rifle in this pic?

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Is that a FAMAS?

>>11654196
The irony is conservatives are the ones who are trying to keep the import ban, yet they also support lazzie-faire economics and LEZZ GUBMIN REGULATUNZ a-la teabaggers.

I swear there is some kind of logic/self awareness eating parasite in those chairs.

>>11654282

There will be industry job still, just less of them. People said the same thing about farming during the industrial revolution. you may think that those people were retarded, but they were saying basically the same thing as you.

Technology will allow each person to produce more, division of labor will increase, and the standard of living will go up too. There will always be demand for labor in one way or another. Telling people to do is a job and those typically are the ones that pay the best.

Assuming NO US manufacturing (which is completely laughable), the US economy would be filled with people who would control the manufacturing being done elsewhere and the service industries to support those people. This is actually what our economy looks like right now to a large degree.

Unfortunately, those manufacturing job CAN be done just as well or better in the US, but our laws in regards to labor (including social programs) make it cost too high. THIS is what is killing us. Ironically, the import bans and tariffs are contributing to the degradation of our economy as well because they cause the cost of things to be higher for the consumers while in the LONG TERM not ensuring that US manufacturing is protected because the law regarding labor already ensure its eventual failure.

tl;dr: the US economy is fucked and import bans are making it worse

>>11654503
It's very ironic.

They want less regulation while wanting more regulations on imports.

>>11654495
>>11654473
>>11654455
>>11654436
>>11654419
>>11654404
>>11654390
>>11654382


>nowthatswhatimtalkingabout.jpg

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Shut up and have some Krag-Jørgensen.

>>11654507
> but our laws in regards to labor (including social programs) make it cost too high
Hello 80hr work week

I do agree that the social and well being programs are killing jobs as well

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This is the last of the NRA Museum pics. I didn't get to see a good bit of the collection because they were filming some TV program there and they blocked off some sections.

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I can feel the excitement!

>>11654520

most republicans have no fucking clue why they support the things they do. A lot of them would be hard core commie-esque democrats if it wasn't for how they are told to interpret the bible. Sad but true.

VERY few people actually have logically consistent political philosophies. Political parties are even worse. When you see the amount 'bi-partisan' legislation that is completely retarded, you will loose all faith probably.

OP, nice pic thread.

Wow, I thought it would be relatively hard to fuck up a historical gun museum but damn, the NRA found a way.

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Almost every pic I took of the SR-71 was blurry. It's a Zionist conspiracy.

>>11654446

Canadian Ross rifle from pre-early WW1.

Straight pull, .303, accurate, but not so good with mud, which is why the Canuks dropped it for their standard IN rifle during WW1

Why are US manufactures so afraid of competition? And what would happen to Cerberus? And why does it cost more to turn parts on CNC lathe in Amurikuh than it does in China? The machine does all the work, not the dude pressing the green button.

>>11654543
I want to see that gatling gun bitch tits.

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>>11654608
It's in the next pic I posted cumguzzler.

So is there any sort of order to this museum? Or is it just like "GUNZ GUNZ GUNZ!" behind plexiglass?

>>11653933
>>11653941
What's up with those cartridges?

OP is the polar opposite of a fag.

>>11654608

A lot of it has to do with taxes and random regulations. Note the countries that gun manufacturing is outsourced to, they are not 3rd world shit holes. Japan, Eastern Europe, South America, and, to some extent, the South Eastern US are the primary places it seems to be moving to.

>>11654608
>And why does it cost more to turn parts on CNC lathe in Amurikuh than it does in China? The machine does all the work, not the dude pressing the green button.
Ohhh boy, do you think about this shit before you post it? The answer to that is your side of the argument. The cost of the skill workman that does the upkeep on them. Which is your argument for the jobs that will replace the manufactory jobs that go over seas

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of the 10 pics of the skunkworks logo I tried to take, this was the best...

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MiG21

>>11654495

I thought FAMAS bayonets mounted on top of the barrel?

oh, and OP, have they finally filled the new Air and Space hangar up? Last time I went, it was half empty. Isn't there a space shuttle in it now?

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>FAGOT B

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>>11654703
Fuck yeah they did, you can sorta see it in the first pic of the SR-71 I posted.

>>11654571
>A wild Ron Paul appears!
>Ron Paul uses Philosophical Consistancy!
>It wasn't very effective...

>>11654123
>>11654123
>Winchester

Winchester is Belgian-owned (FN) and most of their firearms are Belgian or Japanese.

>Remington

Remington, and Cerberus in general, deserves to go under for all the shit they pull. They're the biggest example of how protectionism is hurting the American gun industry.

>Springfield

Springfield is equally shitty. They're dishonest price-gouging fucks who pretend to be American while half their guns are Croatian or Brazilian. The only American gun they make is the M1A, which is price gouged like fuck because there's nobody else making them (except a couple high-end custom makers).

>Ruger

Ruger would keep on truckin' just fine. They make quality products at a good price. I doubt anyone at Ruger gives a single fuck if the import ban is lifted.

>>11654721
>implying /k/ isn't the most libertarian board there is
>implying libertarianism is the only consistent political philosophy
>implying I even like RP

His son is cool though.

>>11654761

Is that a prowler or intruder? I can't see the tail

>>11654769

and apparently I can't read either.

A-6 Intruder

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>>11654769
Intruder, says it on the placard I tried to include on every shot.

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>>11654784

yeah, I caught that after I posted.

>mfw

>>11654264
>Also all you slave shit bros that think the market will be flooded with top quality $200 AKs are crazy. You'd be getting shitty $500 monkey welded shit.

Of course there will be a lot more shitty AKs. There will also be awesome ones. Loosening the import laws won't bring in 100% shit, that's retarded.

>But thats wrong, did you just make that up?
Not him, but Winchester and Springfield ARE mainly importers. Winchester is mainly Belgian and Japanese firearms with one or two rifles being made in the US, and Springfield mainly sells 1911s (Brazilian) and XDs (Croatian), making only the M1A here.

Springfield is a good example of a shit-tier American company who can't keep up. When the HS2000 came here it was $250 new. Springfield bought the American distribution rights, doubled the price, and sold it as their own. They're already benefiting from cheap foreign firearm prices, we can't the average American?