ten quid

How far would they take it?

I guess like $800.

is...is that urine?

>>11478219

$600 considering how often I'd have to replace parts and repair her.

A dollar?

Maybe?

>>11478246

She's leaking oil.

>>11478251

>>11478251
So yes, but no.

50 doshes

1,000 quatloos.

100 zorkmids.

I can't imagine that there are many left now, after the H&K upgrade. But it could be worth something as a collector's item, afterall you would own the world's most defective assault rifle. Not many people can say that.

If it were (somehow) a transferable full auto in the US, maybe $5000, mostly for the sake of selling.
If it were just semi, or illegal, maybe $400?

About tree fiddy

L85A1 Master race, Reporting

ah, its so good to see that storied from 25 years ago are still being taken as fact.

I presume the M16 still jams constantly, then, by that book?

the L85 was a terrible rifle when it was released. the problems with it were rectified almost 20 years ago, and its reliability in use is virtually identical to the AR platform.

>>11478286

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Just ask a couple of scallies from LIverpool for one.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-merseyside-15817937

>>11478302

L85A1 had all of the problems, ALL of them.

L85A2 is where they fixed them. A1 is still shit if they are still around.

The first M16 had the problems, the later versions got a chrome lined bore and barrel to fix the retardation.

Nothing. I am left handed. I shot an L85 in Bosnia left handed, big mistake.

>>11478219
Why is the L85 is represented by the A1 variant and the M16 is the A4.

If they were both A1s they could be have silly hijinks together.

>>11478354

Because of reasons.

A few people think that she may get "fixed" by the H&K family in the show eventually.

>>11478349
>L85A2 is where they fixed them. A1 is still shit if they are still around.

the A1 no longer exists in service. the only examples are in museums like the Royal Armouries. Every single one in service was refurbished to A2 standard.

>>11478302
1/2

2/2

Which gun gave soldiers the bigger problems M16 or L85 ?

Depends. Early batches in the production run were actually alright; it was only the later ones that were seriously poor because by that point Enfield knew they were going under and gave no shits.

I saw an armourer compare two once, and the late-run one was quite horrifying. The difference in quality of machiening (a millimeter or more difference in some places), tool marks on the inside of the reciever, parts not fitting together correctly between rifles, improper tempering of critical parts such as the sear and of course the switch to cheaper plastics resulting in the infamous mosquito repellant handguard. He could do a better job of machining with the shit he had in the shop.

>How much would you pay for a PPSH?
fix'd

The development of the SA80 was a complete farce, read this:
http://www.guardian.co.uk/uk/2002/oct/10/military.jamesmeek
Basically; constantly redesigned to fit new requirements, Royal Ordnance privatized and contract outsourced during first production run, rushed into service to replace dwindling stocks of SLR parts, sub-standard testing, and many more.

I liked this bit:
>1985
>H&K contracted to make training ammunition
>MOD send two rifles for the Germans to work with
>Germans receive rifle
>immediately call MOD
>German: "You know it goes off when you drop it?"
>British officer: "Really?"
>goes to armoury
>drops rifle
>goes off
>"oh"

>>11478478
HA! Lets bomb nignogs with the leftovers and when they hit the ground every one dies

>>11478403
>Which gun gave soldiers the bigger problems M16 or L85 ?

given the M16 was introduced during vietnam and there are plenty of accounts of its failures killing US soldiers, whereas the L85 was introduced during peacetime, giving the british time to work around its faults without the pressures of combat, I would presonally say the M16 was worse.

had the L85 been the L82, and introduced right before the Falklands war, on the other hand... then I'd have likely said that it were worse for soldiers.

>>11478403
Ichiroku ;_;

>>11478219
I'd pay maybe 500-600, but I'm guessing it would be closer to 800, so I wouldn't buy.

>>11478219

A dime. It's a shitty cockfag excuse for a rifle.

>>11478478
>guardian link
>blames thatcher
>it was those bloody tories
>glorious labour party
>hurr durr privatisation

>>11478219
what chapter and page is that from?

I'd fuck her. Once again...if she jams a lot that means she likes being man handled to get unjammed :3

I hope its piss...

I there a worse rifle than the L85 and the M-16?

>>11482250
the ar180/ar18...

>>11478219
Why hasn't anyone given me the name of this yet? It's like /k/ hates me ;_;

>>11482079


>>11482488
welcome to the club...

Probably $800.

I still fucking hate bullpups though.

>>11482527
Found it. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Upotte!!

>>11478403

>this comic implying that it was the M16 or any weapon the US used was a factor to backing out of Vietnam.

We had the superior equipment even if the soldiers were told the M16 required no cleaning and several retards took them at their word. No, pulling out of Vietnam was entirely political bullshit.

>>11482542
i want to know which chapter the image came from...

>>11482599
DAS! it was several hundreds of rifles rendered useless by corrosion and poor lubrication that started the whole investigation...
any of us who had a brain grabbed M14's or M1 carbines as soon as the problems started...
it wasn't until the chrome lined bores and chambers became available that the POS would halfway work...

they'd have to pay me to take what is quite possibly the worst assault rifle in service

LODS OF EMONE

>>11478219
1 dollaru

>>11478272
I'm sorry, what was that?

>>11482723

And you're spouting this bullshit from what I can only assume is first-hand knowledge of fighting in Viet Nam with the M-16.

Sit down.