california was the only state (that i can think of) that had unloaded open carry. and yes it was stupid, but people got scared and such. open carry is now illegal in california, concealed only, and that's assuming you have a permit in the few counties that issue them.

>>11419220

I'm pretty sure you can still open carry rifles and shotguns in California.

>>11419232
long guns are the exception, yes, and not within 1km of a school or daycare.

>>11419201
>doesn't that defeat the purpose of having a gun?
Congratulations, you have now figured out that open carry is an absolutely retarded idea that should not be done by anyone unless you are carrying in the wilderness or wilds where you are afraid of being attacked by animals, not people.
OCers are just dumb attention whores who are likely not smart enough or educated enough to be carrying a gun in the first place.

>>11419267
or can't get a concealed permit. i'm against OC if it's for political means. scares the easily frightened.

>>11419267

eat shit and die.

>>11419282
Mentally incompetent child who runs around OCing a 1911 and fervently believing he upholds the constitution detected.
Go back to sucking your fellow tea party-ers cocks.

Texas is one of the most gun-friendly states in America (scored a 4 on the Brady scale), with excellent self-defense and castle laws. And we DO NOT allow OC. Why? Simple. In Texas, we do not permit faggotry.

Texas: Good for guns, bad for faggotry. Hence, no OC.

Deal with it, nerds.

>>11419313
Yeah, but then you would have to live in... Texas....
Where everybody is fat, the only food is disgustingly greasy Mexican or BBQ (admittedly awesome BBQ), generally low IQs, etc.
I'll take AZ for dat even better gun laws or Alaska for dat even better gun laws + innawoods beauty

>>11419313
Really? Just texas? Why not Lousiana, Alabama, Georgia, Florida and so on?

The deep south's where its at. Gotta have our guns to keep the nigs and spics away

>>11419336
>generally low IQs
>NOPE.jpeg

You get some of the smartest engineers, petroleum, mechanical, and engineers out here because this is where the money is.

>>11419313
Florida scored 3, fuck your faggot state.

>>11419313
Houston fag reportin in. AMEN brother. God Bless Texas.

>>11419336
i'd prefer to live in oregon.

>>11419343
>thisiswhattexanswanttobelieve.jpg
What texans think:
>We are all well educated Southern gentlemen with moral women, beautiful land, and a rich history
What actually goes on:
>HYUCK HYUCK

I dread just having a layover in the state after having lived in Houston for a year.

>>11419336
lolwat

>>11419339
>Why not Lousiana, Alabama, Georgia, Florida and so on?
Because niggers.

>>11419350
FUCK YEAR. DFW reporting in. Next time I'm down that way, lets go down to Gunspoint to go nigger hunting, then go downtown for beer and pic related.

>>11419384
all dat silicon and botox. dem big ol fake titties.
>implying i still wouldnt fuck the shit out of plastic and fake as fuck clinging to their 20s attention whores

>>11419363

This man speaks the greatest truth in this thread.
Well, except for the part about TX having good BBQ, but food alone isn't enough to put up with that arrogant shithole of an excuse for a state.

>>11419313
idaho scored a fucking 2 haha
i can't stop laughing.

also fuck texas for making OC illegal. I CC, but fuck everyone gets to make their own damn choice.
what happened to hurr durr protect my freedumz?

the idea of freedom is you get to make that choice, not the legislature.

>>11419405
Spoken like a true California yankee

>>11419444
Because OC is dicks.

>>11419450

>implying California is Teh North

>>11419453
i agree, but that doesn't mean people shouldn't be allowed to do it.

>>11419453
>morbidly obese
>sweaty
>poorly educated
>average IQ at best
>buys massive quantities of toiler paper and white bread at walmart
average OCer

>extreme anger and buttmad over OC

I will never understand this.

Perhaps why worldview is different from everyone elses, but a gun is a tool, and should be treated as such.

Damn glad OC is fine where I live.

As it should be.

>>11419480
>but a gun is a tool, and should be treated as such.
Because you'd be just as big of a faggot if you wore a tool belt with a hammer, screw driver, nails, etc. around town to show everybody you were exercising your rights to be a faggot.

>>11419498

I wish I had slowclap.gif right now.

lrn2 OC BP like a boss.

niggas can't do shit to you

>>11419498

>you use a backpack? laughingwhores.jpg

we can't all look edgy and cool when we have shit to do

think about that when some nig spills purple drank while you wait in the welfare line

>>11419531
>we can't all look edgy and cool when we have shit to do
>have shit to do
Because your weekly Wal-Mart excursion to stock up on more hamburger helper and Coors is clearly a priority in which you need to "exercise your rights so you don't lose them."
>think about that when some nig spills purple drank while you wait in the welfare line
>guy named NuggetFancy
>making insinuations that other people are poor
Try harder.

>>11419551
so what happens when no one sees guns, because they are all conceal carried, so they retain that mythic hollywood aura about them that scares soccer moms?

additionally, why are you intent on disenfranchising and entire group of gun lovers who can only carry openly?

>also being targets when a nig robs the store, allowing you to tactically shit yourself out the door

also

>nuggetfancy
>play on words of nutnfancy
>I like nagants

many jobs require you wear faggy shit as a condition of employment

>safety gear
>tools
>id badges
>uniforms

but hey, it's daytime, I don't expect children to have jobs

>>11419614
>so what happens when no one sees guns, because they are all conceal carried, so they retain that mythic hollywood aura about them that scares soccer moms?
Generally not a God damned thing and everybody goes about their business happy. You're a complete fucking moron, well you've already proven that anyways, if you think "HURR ILL CARRY MAH GUNZ AROUND TO EXPOSE PEOPLE AND MAKE THEM OK WITH IT!" They tried that in CA for years and look what happened? OC got banned because nobody likes having a bunch of low-IQ morons who shouldn't be driving a car in the first place, much less handling firearms, strutting around Starbucks handing out flyers.

Now go back to being a petulant child and spewing /k/ memes about youtube videos, nuggets, and pretending that /k/ is bad during the day because someone far more intelligent and experienced than you points out how big of an idiot you are.

>>11419614
youve never carried a gun at all have you?

>>11419634
really, because around here there is a lot of OC and everyone is cool with it.

using california as an example is pretty stupid, since the state is shit

and why are you so mad bro? sounds like you're getting too emotional for the internet

>maybe you don't like open carry because you lack the emotional maturity to dealwithit.jpg

>>11419675
So you tell me /k/ is bad during the day time because of "children," yet you go on to resort your entire argument to "U MAD BRO?" and other childish memes? You are a child and a hypocrite.
>really, because around here there is a lot of OC and everyone is cool with it.
Oh, because you speak on behalf of everyone in your community, I'm sure?
Do you have any sort of access to how many complaints your P.D. receives? No? Congratulations, you just made a claim you are incapable of proving in any way, i.e. you made a false claim that holds no water.
>using california as an example is pretty stupid, since the state is shit
I like how when someone uses a U.S. state as an example of where this failed, a childish poster who has likely never even been out of his home state and has nothing more than a high school education, immediately resorts to disseminating what he hears second hand from posters on /k/.
More than that, I like how you immediately resort to a "That doesn't count!" method of thinking when someone proves you wrong with actual facts that have occurred within the U.S.
Childish and selective hearing, much?

I tell you what, why don't you actually prove to me you have even carried a firearm in public in any way for even one day of your life.
>inb4 you can't because you are just a child watching from the sidelines of the internet

being drunk and CCing in my state earns you an assraping from the police, then they steal your gun and revoke your permit

being drunk and OCing gets you a warning not to drink and drive

>>11419639
every day

>>11419720
told status:
[] not told
[] told
[x] FUCKING TOLD
hows that gen 4 g19 treating ya bro?

>>11419751
It's a Gen 3 G19, not a Gen 4, although I do plan on buying a Gen 4 G17 or G19 some time this year after I buy an SGL-31 to accompany my SGL21. It's a 2009-2010 manufactured G19 and has been an exceptional shooter with about 12,000 rounds through it so far once I finish up this box of ammo. Hasn't had a single malfunction that wasn't ammo related, but I did replace the spring assembly with a new factory replacement at about 6,000 rounds just for good measure. Hoping to get a Gen 4 for that awesome accuracy, hope they have most of the kinks worked out by now.

>>11419498

This argument doesn't make sense to me.

You wear a tool belt when you might need tools. The time you might need a weapon for self-defense is, in particular, when you venture off into society.

>>11419768
ahh my bad i saw that pin in the grip and thought it was for the backstraps.
im gonna buy a g17 when i turn 21 in 2mos and im still wondering about gen 3 vs 4.

>>11419720
well, you do sound kinda mad.

In fact I did call up the police after a community watch meeting, because the maps they made to display 911 calls+arrests were so shitty, I wanted to volunteer my services in making better ones.

I asked about how many people call to complain about people using guns, and they were all along the lines of

>my neighbor/some kids/a suspicious looking guy is shooting/my animals/at night/at my house and or property

Even the police assume you have guns when they stop you, and still don't care as long as you transport them legally.

As for California, can you provide evidence of other states doing the same? I discount California (as well as other 'communist' states) because the political situation there seems to be far more antigun than most of the country.

>actual facts
you have failed to give actual facts yourself.
I don't mind not backing claims up with links, but don't call me an idiot for not doing so when you havn't either.

As I said, whenever I'm off base I carry.
I have to do it openly because I don't have my CCP yet.

But don't worry, I'll (re)post my arsenal once I'm off work.

>>11419720

I'm not saying I disagree with, because I feel that many who OC are tools.

HOWEVER, letting the gov. ban it is setting the wrong precedent. The 2nd amendment shouldn't be manipulated like that on a state level.

>>11419634
>uses California's gun laws to attempt to win an argument
>NOOOOOOOOOPE.
209 fag here, and you friend sound a little too Brady like for me. At first your argument seemed ok, but really even if you disagree with OC, there's no reason to get your jimmies rustled if other places allow it. But then you quoted my states shitty gun laws to attempt to win an argument on /k/, allofmynope.jpg
You have to be a nogunz eurofag or a commiefornian disguised as anon.

>>11419792

>I asked about how many people call to complain about people using guns, and they were all along the lines of

That is what rustles me about the OC debate. Since when has bitches bitching been a valid reason to screw with a constitutional right?

I'm not coming at you here, I'm just pointing out that even discussing the complaints of the ignorant as a justification to ban something is insanity.

There will always been the ignorant. The only fixing it is to continue to education them. If that education has to come in the form of a police officer telling that moron that the OCer is exercising his/her right as an America, so be it.

>>11419792
>No, I have never carried a firearm for even one day in my life in public
>I am likely not even old enough to purchase handguns
>I totally did this to prove my point, yet still cannot provide any actual sources or facts, you'll just have to take my word for it!
That's all that I had to hear to understand that, at this point, the argument is entirely useless because I am speaking to someone with absolutely no first hand experience or knowledge about the discussion.
I'll be filtering your trip from this point forward so that I no longer have to suffer through the stupidity that is your postings. Grow up, child.

>>11419806

>But then you quoted my states shitty gun laws to attempt to win an argument on /k/, allofmynope.jpg

Indeed sir, 562 here.

Yes, California is fucked. The laws here clearly violate the second amendment and many are trying to change that through the courts.

Banning OC is a violation of the 2nd amendment, clear cut, case closed. If you think that is OK... Well

"First they came for the OCers.... And I didn't nothing because I think they look like tools..."
"Then they came for my easy magazine release, now I have a fucking bullet button, but I did nothing because I'm a range queen."
"Then they came for my magazines, now all I can get is a 10 round, but I didn't care because again, I am a fucking range queen..."

etc. etc.

>>11419832
once again, you can't demand I post 'hard cold evidence' when you won't do so yourself

you're making things up and twisting words to avoid the fact that you're wrong, or at least slightly mistaken

>shutting down a dialogue because someone has a different opinion than you

what a very californian thing to do :3

>>11419828

but that's just it, no one complains about OC or any C at all. Just when actual shit is going down

>officer, someone is shooting in the woods and the bullets are hitting my house
>o god help

I'm putting in the packet for my permit next week. It's a pain, but the benefits outweigh the hassle

cops are ordered to treat you extra well, on account of you paying the bribe for your permit.

>>11419522
agreed; will this do?

all of you are fags

is anyone gonna post more than just shitty opinions?

ITT: anti-gun faggots who want OC banned.

I think it's fine to make fun of or otherwise criticize OC'ers, but going so far as to want OC banned? WTF?

In Texas, if your CC'ed firearm gets exposed you can be prosecuted for OC, which is total BS. OC bans are total BS. There are many situations where OC is preferable and won't draw attention.

I almost always CC everyday and I don't OC in general public, but I have in other situations, like innawoods and on range/shooting trips with friends, and want the ability to do so.

tl;dr: if you want OC banned you are a Brady faggot. fact.

Some one should make a video of OC'ing in public with the stated purpose of trolling people on weapons boards. They would still be trolled even though they were told it was a troll. It would be hilarious. Use guys will get your panties in a bunch over nothing.

>>11419472
That's not wal-mart, it's Food Lion. Notice those are MVP price skews, not rollbacks.

>>11420480

Serious question: why does it seem like OC'ers are more likely to be really fat?

Is it harder to CC when you are really fat? I understand that having some extra weight is beneficial, but is it really uncomfortable for really fat people to CC or something? I have no idea because I'm skinny as hell.

disclaimer: most of the few people I've seen OC were normal sized. It just seems like there is a higher % of fat OC'ers than the general pop.

Hey, if you're the kind of faggot who gets all assdisastered because you think your PRESHUS FREEDUMBS are being infringed because Texas is so awesome that we outlaw faggotry like OC, that's your case of redass, not mine.

I'll just be down here enjoying my Shiner Bock, hot chicks, MILLIONS of acres of public hunting land, excellent gun laws, etc. etc.

Deal, nerds.

>>11420535

Obvious troll Zed. You're slipping. The Texas OC laws hurt CC'ers as well.

>>11419832
>wah wah you have different opinions

it's sad how stupid you are

>>11420535
ZED, most of Texas is in private hands. The property owners just cooperate with Texas Parks and Wildlife to make the land available.

>>11420535

Also: Colorado masterace because statewide campus CC for state colleges and mountains.

The only thing that could make Colorado gun laws better to my knowledge is permitless carry.

>VT, AK, AZ, WY I jelly

>>11420535
>texas
>millions of acres of public land
hahaiwish.jpeg

>>11420560
There is a lot of Texas. Not to discredit your statement it is (probably I don't know) true.

>>11420550
>implying troll
lolnope. Personally, I LOVE that OC is prohibited by law here. Keeps those faggots at bay.

And it's not hurting me at all. In fact, Texas is one of the few states where you can actually CC without a permit, given certain circumstances. Can you say that about your state? If no, then I feel bad for you. Here, have some more hot Texas chicks to look at. We have plenty.

>>11420565
>The only thing that could make Colorado gun laws better would be to nuke denver
ftfy

>>11420567
http://www.recreation.gov/unifSearchResults.do?topTabIndex=Search

I try to make this site known on here. I have filtered for a couple things already. Enjoy.

>>11419363

Forget that we are the only state that has it's own, independent powergrid. Forget that we're the energy capital of the world. Forget that our economy is 15th largest in the world. Forget the aeronautics industry we have. Forget the big companies based here such as Dell or Texas Instruments. Forget that while the rest of the nation is suffering, we have BILLIONS in our "Rainy Day Fund". Forget that we're the number 1 exporter in the nation. Forget that people and companies our moving here in droves. Forget that California has sent delegates here to see how we run our state and why we're doing so good. We're just a bunch of inbreed hicks who can't run a state.

>>11420594

Bad news for you, Zed. There's a law going into session in 2013 that will legalize OC if passed.

>>11420594

Suuuuurrrrre you're not trolling. What happens if you CC'ed firearm is spotted by some one? You have just illegally OC'ed and will now lose your CC license. So yeah, TX OC laws are retarded. Not to even mention the myriad of instances where OC does not attract attention at all.

A lot of states have exemptions to allow permitless carry in certain instances and/or for certain people. GA for instance allow permitless carry for anyone who have a job that is listed on a rather extensive list of exemptions in the law. This includes anyone in the US military. Many states (basically all of the somewhat progun ones) allow permitless carry on private property you have permission to carry on. I think CO has some exemptions too, but I'm not sure what they are exactly. I do know that they don't affect me and that my CCL covers me anyway.

>If you aren't trolling Zed, then congrats, you are an anti-gun faggot and I almost feel sorry for you

>>11420595

FUCK. I forgot about that faggy place. Luckily Denver proper is incredibly small and the mag cap limits they have that weren't over turned are not actually enforced to my knowledge.

>>11419363
Seeing as you were retarded enough to move to Houston, you must be a slack-jawed fuckwad whose opinion means jack shit.

>>11420670
Well, shit. I guess the capital is in Austin, after all. Bunch of slack-jawed faggots and hippies down there. Probably came in from some faggot state like PA or CO.

>>11420595

Also Boulder, but they get trolled the fuck out of by campus carry and have to having all of the other pro-gun laws that the rest of the state has.

>>11419405
Arrogance comes with success. We happen to be very, very successful.

Well, I'm almost off work.

Will post my carry gun and my wifes carry gun when I get home.

I think NC has some pretty good CC/OC laws, for the record

>>11420677
>What happens if you CC'ed firearm is spotted by some one? You have just illegally OC'ed and will now lose your CC license.

Do know how many times that's prosecuted in Texas? Zero times, that's how many. That's because we don't tolerate faggotry, remember? Prosecuting some guy for printing is faggotry. We don't do it. The people who HAVE lost their CC license were those who were BLATANTLY, HORRIBLY carrying in such a way that they may as well have been OCing, or illegally brandishing. Those people are faggots, therefore they lose their license.

It's not rocket science man. It's just antifaggotry.

>>11419498
Non-faggots store their hammers up their asses when they think they'll need to nail some stuff together, because it's stimulating and all tools must be hidden from sight like a middle eastern woman's body.

I OC because I don't give enough of a shit about anyone else's opinion to go to the trouble of concealing.

And no, they aren't going to come behind me and steal my gun, because I carry for cross draw.

>>11420677
>I think CO has some exemptions too, but I'm not sure what they are exactly...

Oh. See, in Texas, EVERY TEXAN can CC provided they are in their vehicle, on their way to their vehicle, or in a place that's under their direct control. That's how the law reads, and it's pretty broad-- and broadly interpreted. Basically, all you need a CHL for is to carry into restaurants, shops, things like that.

Driving from your home to your business and back? CC all day errday, no permit, and you don't have to look at any OC faggots along the way. It's truly awesome here.

>>11420677
>What happens if you CC'ed firearm is spotted by some one? You have just illegally OC'ed and will now lose your CC license.
False.
"Printing," if the police are called will result in them checking your ID and telling you to leave.
What you are describing is "brandishing," which is an entirely different matter.

>>11420848
>be in public in TX
>shirt tail goes up
>gun exposed briefly
>you are open to OC charges and loss of CC license

FACT.

A blatantly anit-2A and anti-CC law. Cannot deny this.

Texas needs to fix it's retarded OC laws. What about OC'ing for practical reasons innawoods or something? Still illegal in TX. I don't know about you zed, but I actually use my guns on a daily basis and use them often for self defense in innawoods recreation. I know many people in TX would agree with me.

Also, stop being an anti-gun fudd.

>hurrr they don't use guns exactly like I do
>BAN THEM!!!111one

I may go OC just to troll /k/. Though it would be something silly like both of my Steyr-Hahns at the same time.

the shittiest posters are from texas, i just realized that. god damned shithole hick state.

>>11420923

If you're gun becomes directly visible in TX in anyway it is technically OC. While it MAY not often be used to prosecute people, if it happens to you, you're rights are at the whim of government officials.

This law pretty much makes it illegal to IWB CC without a trench coat if you ever want to bend over and pick something up or something.

Printing is obviously still CC, otherwise that would totally ban CC as well because I'm fairly sure printing is nearly impossible to completely avoid.

>>11420908

I'm pretty sure most states with shall issue CC allow permitless carry and /or loaded and accessible transport in your car in some fashion.

I haven't looked into such things for CO, but all of the other states I've lived in except NY allowed it. Even if it were the case, I have a CCL that's valid in a lot of states, so whatever.

TX has meh tier gun laws. I wish it were different because it is a fuck huge state that I travel through fairly often, but they do indeed kinda suck compared to a lot of other places. Could be worse though. At least they don't have the faggy laws that SC has that only appear good on the surface, but are actually totally retarded in their construction.

>>11420926
>>11420969
Actually, those are not 'facts' at all. That's you making up laws you think exist. They don't.

Try to learn some laws before you try to troll with them.

>>11421200

You just admitted that i was right when you said:

>The people who HAVE lost their CC license were those who were BLATANTLY, HORRIBLY carrying in such a way that they may as well have been OCing

In that statement you are using direct logical fallacies, chief amongst those being you attempting to discredit ALL of the BS prosecutions for an accidentally exposed CC'ed firearm. Some of those cases may have been bad CC practices (which still isn't attention whoring, like you are railing against, and therefore should still be A OK by all of your arguments, which again makes the TX OC law a bad law by your own admission), but not all of them are. Some of them are people who are being victimized by the blatantly anti-CC law.

You are admitting that people are prosecuted under the OC law for CC'ing in an otherwise acceptable fashion, but won't admit it because you are trolling or just retarded.

Beecause I know who you are, I know you are trolling. Your skills are rusty zed. It is too see through this time. Even if you are ACTUAL in favor of banning OC, you are still clearly attempting to troll pro-2A advocates in this thread.

>>11421200
how about you post an excerpt of texan law, with a link, supporting your position?

>hurr durr ur ghey

when I get home I will scan and post my literature (plus notes)

there is nothing better than whipping out the lawbooks (in this case law pdfs) and telling people 'sup

I've always been under the impression that texas has draconian OC laws, but I would love to be proved wrong

>>11421200

Also: don't accuse me of trolling. That is a little too try-hard of a troll bro. You are already pulling off too many thinly veiled logical fallacies at once. Try using less next time, it will make your arguments seem more believable.

>>11421301
>>11421309
>>11421322
You're trying way, way hard here.

>A license holder commits an offense if the license holder carries a handgun on or about the license holder's person under the authority of Subchapter H, Chapter 411, Government Code, and intentionally fails to conceal the handgun.
>intentionally
>intentionally
>intentionally

Know why they put that in there? To keep faggots from screaming bloody murder every time some poor guy bends over to pick up a bag of Puppy Chow in WalMart and prints or exposes his handgun. With the word "intentionally" there, the cop responding (if there is one) must make a determination if the brief exposure was intentional or not. If he decides "yes" (and he'd better be DAMN sure of his case under pain of being sued to oblivion) then it's up to the court to decide if, in FACT, the hapless man "INTENTIONALLY" exposed his weapon. Which, if he was carrying IWB normally (shirt untucked, jacket/coat on, etc.) they will not be able to do. That is why I said that the only people prosecuted for exposing their CC weapon were the real, total fuckups. Learn your laws before you try to talk shit or troll bro.

tl;dr - NuggetFancy tries real hard, blows it out his ass, gets owned by Zed. Colorado V. Texas, Texas wins. Again.

Pic related. God, it's awesome in Texas.

Bump with Texasball being awesome.

>>11421418
>cannot into legal arguments to prosecute

The fact that it is illegal to OC, intentional or not, STILL opens up a CC'er to prosecution for OC for an accidental exposure. It becomes a he said she said thing, and an anti-gun police/DA might not care what you have to say.

I prefer to live in a free state where if my firearm is exposed, I don't have the THIN legal defense that it was an accident. It could even be argued that by not concealing deep enough a person intentionally meant for it to be exposed at some point. After all, the defense for an accidental exposure is THOUGHT, not a physical occurrence. TX OC law is a thought crime.

Also, what about OC'ing innawoods or something? What's wrong with that? Break's down your whole "argument" now doesn't it?

TX OC law is anti-2A and therefore for liking by faggots only. Since you are a fudd and only approve of people using arm EXACTLY like yourself, you are a faggot who sucks Colorado's snowy and mountainous DICK.

Also, Texans visit Colorado for how nice it is, not the other way around. (and we have campus CC to troll the antis) We wins.

deals. with. its.

>>11421737
>>11421871
Since you to are so fervent in this here you go
http://www.txdps.state.tx.us/administration/crime_records/chl/tchlaws0102.pdf

Texas might be my home state but I can't ski without Colorado.

>>11421871
1. nopes, lol
2. you're kinda mad nao, lol
3. Colorado is Texas' playground.
4. L2 "intentional". L2 burden of proof. L2 legal precedent. It's completely a non-issue, you're wrong, you know it, and you just got your ass owned-- just like Colorado always gets it's ass owned by Texas.

>>11421871
>Also, what about OC'ing innawoods or something?
Derp. How do you think we hunt on public land? OCing on private land is also totally legal.

You should really look this shit up before you start running your dicksucker about it, lol. Might help you not get so buttfrustrated when you get told down.

>>11419313

Arizona is better. Suck it bitch nigga. 0/100.

What does a 0 stand for?

THE BEST MOTHER FUCKING STATE IN THE UNION.

>>11421871
>>11421871


Be more wrong.

Sec. 46.035. UNLAWFUL CARRYING OF HANDGUN BY LICENSE HOLDER. (a) A license holder commits an offense if the license holder carries a handgun on or about the license holder's person under the authority of Subchapter H, Chapter 411, Government Code, and intentionally fails to conceal the handgun.

>>11421904
>>11421922

I ain't even from Colorado, nor mad.

Texans are THE most defensive people I know of. Your state is flat and lame. You get all mad about it just like the people who live int the middle east do. You know where you live is boring and pointless, so you just deny it and take your anger out on people who live in interesting and worthwhile places.

Anyway, how are anti OC laws a plus? They would negatively impact me when I want to OC (rare, but I do do it innawoods and such, as mentioned before) I haven't seen some one OC in public in over a year and a half even though I hang out in mostly very pro-gun states.

The whole anti-OC thing seems like a very trivial and selfish argument. Loose more than you "gain" even though you aren't gaining anything other than "feeling better."

Essentially it is the exact same argument as the Brady faggots use for everything. Don't be a Brady fag, just ignore OC like normal people do. (as if it even common enough to notice in the first pace)

Also, Texas is the Middle East, take you anger out about it on other states like NY and CA. Leave the cool states out of it.

>pic related: a typical Texan's attitude. This movie was really about living in TX

>>11421976

Rifles/hunting are exempt. Didn't think that was an argument. Still can't OC for self defense in TX on public when not hunting.

>the cause of Texans' butthurt. the only brand they're allowed to buy.

>>11419313
It's actually because of old reconstruction era laws forced on ex confederate and confederate friendly territories to keep them from arming themselves, because back inna day it was thought that only dirty bandits concealed their gun so it was already illegal.

>>11422132
Naah, outlawing OC is actually beneficial. See, by stopping the faggotry before it starts, we don't give the anti-gun fags ammunition to use against us.

States that allow OC put all our gun rights at risk, because OC fags are basically disasters waiting to happen.

>>11422165
I'm actually bored with blasting your anus with the sweet justice of Texas truth. You're welcome to keep trying though.

>>11422132

>flat and lame
>Texans are mad

Hardly. I live right by the beach nigga, plus hill country is great. We have woods, deserts prairie or whatever the fuck you want. I wish they allowed OC, I wouldn't do it but I still wish we had the option.

TEXAS FUCK YEAH

>>11422042

Who says it was intentional or not? Provide case law. As per that law the word of the witness could be used against the CC'er even though the witness would have to have the ability to read minds to actually discern if it was an accident or not. They could just say the CC'er was lying and did mean to have a slip. He said she said, and if the witness is a cop or other respected person, then you could be fucked. Who will believe a random guy saying it was an accident v. some anti-2A cop saying he intentionally broke the law?

I prefer a more clear cut law pertaining to firearms rather than thought crimes like the TX OC law.

>TX has thought crimes
>TX on it's way to being a dystopia
>actually virtually all states do
>FUCK

Provide case law that this could not be a successful prosecution, and I'll admit you're right.

Sure the burden of proof is on the prosecution, but all they would have to to is what I stated above and the defense would have a strong chance of loosing.

>TX wouldn't let you do this. TX hates everything that is cool.

>>11422211

An Arab would say the same thing. The same thing.

>this much awesome is illegal in TX, because you are getting so much attention, you might as well be OC'ing

Oh wait, TX OC laws were originally made by anti's to fuck over certain gun owners when OC was not abnormal. Yeah...

>>11421871
>what about OC'ing innawoods or something?
>Texas
Most land in Texas is privately own, and as such the law doesn't apply.

>flat and lame

I believe you are thinking of Kansas

Pic of lame and flat Texas

>>11421904
Not really sure what was defensive bout this guys >>11421904
statement.

>>11422299
There was actually a law that tried to allow OC, but IIRC it was really horribly written and was voted against because of that.
Also, we can OC anything but a pistol legally.

>>11422323
is that big bend or somewhere else. I've only been to big bend

Alright, this thread has provided enough entertainment for me for now. I'm claiming victory.

When I OC two ridiculously obscure C&R handguns at the same time, you will all change you tune about the usefulness of OC.

>>11422342
Well I hurpda durpda dooed on those links questioning nugget colector was I

>>11422359
But I have the other dragonballs so I don't see how that will be possible

The only place I've been in Texas is Amarillo, and that place was a shithole.
Texans have been at great pains to point out to me that Amarillo is not really representative of the state though.
Don't really give a shit about OC either way, honestly.
It seems a little retarded, but then again so does banning it.

>>11422399
Amarillo does have the Big Texan Steakhouse though and those are damn good steaks. This however does not mean I will dive into the cesspool for a diamond.

wow, nugget collector doesn't know his ass from a hole in the wall. what a fuckin noob, LOL.

>>11422259
>>11422259
>>11422259

ITT: you create the strawman argument where you presume that all witnesses will maliciously lie to a peace officer, and testify that the failure to conceal was intentional.


PROTIP: I've accidentally failed to conceal a whole bunch of times, and I'm still not in jail.

Once was even in front of a maintenance guy in a rest area on I-10. I came out of the shitter with my shirt literally tucked behind my roscoe. The guy had a fucking radio and cell on him, and nothing happened.


TL;DR you're a faggot relying on strawman arguments and "what if"s

Hey Zed

You're an ass.

Okay, me time now.

RE: printing while CCing

Zed is technically right, as per Sec. 46.035 of Texas state penal code.

However, it does not specifically address printing of a concealed firearm.

It has something a tad worse:

>A license holder commits an offense if the license holder carries a handgun on or about the license holder's person under the authority of Subchapter H, Chapter 411, Government Code, and intentionally fails to conceal the handgun.

It is a class A misdemeanor

it is also a judgment call, as printing could be taken as 'knowingly' carrying your handgun in such a way that it might print, as in you knowingly did not take steps to ensure 100% concealability.

>implying I was calling you out

I just wanted sources bro

I liked your thread on bore cleaning

http://www.statutes.legis.state.tx.us/Docs/PE/htm/PE.46.htm

http://www.statutes.legis.state.tx.us/Docs/GV/htm/GV.411.htm

Let's see...

Oh yeah, my literature and my carry gun(s)

brb

>2012
>paying attention to nugget collector about anything, ever.
pic related.
the guy is basically SAO. it's just a matter of time till he gets perma'd for shitposting.

>>11422353
yes it is Big Bend NP, in the Chisos. Have some Santa Elena Canyon.

This is how you deal with melanin enriched buccaneers.
Being used as target practice by mercs makes throwing a rope ladder a bit more challenging.

http://www.ebaumsworld.com/video/watch/82433535/

I smell a LOT of trip anonfagging here...

>>11422464

Protip: it wasn't a strawman argument, but it was an unlikely hypothetical.

I took their argument at face value, but I suggested a possible point of it's failure. The courts may be reasonable about that point of failure or not. Generally they probably are and that is why my argument was wrong, not because of a strawman.

Learn 2 logical fallacy.

In case use guys are blind: I was intentionally fucking with the Texans, and a lot of what I said about the law isn't really correct, but it made them defend it.

However, my original criticism of anti-OC laws still stands. The anti-OC law is pretty much pointless and adds an inconvenience to non-attention whoring OC'ers at no tangible gain to anyone.

It's all moot though because I am victorious because I say so.

>>11422439
>noob

Go back to 2003.

>>11422588
God fucking damnit wrong thread.
Oh well.. have a vid with Somali prirates getting shot at.

>>11422599
but I still have the other dragonballs

>>11422571
>taking anything posted on daytime /k/ too seriously
>implying I never provide OC nor am fairly knowledgeable on a lot of old useless gun topic

Really?

>sadface

>>11422636
I can vouch for nugget collector- he has many nuggets

a collection even

incoming shit soon

like 6 pages to scan

>>11422557

>it is also a judgment call, as printing could be taken as 'knowingly' carrying your handgun in such a way that it might print, as in you knowingly did not take steps to ensure 100% concealability.

Basically part of what I was arguing about it. Poorly constructed law. The application of it i bet is acceptable, if you find banning OC to be acceptable that is.

This TX law will go the way of the Ivan Chesnokov though, so it won;t have to be put up with by Texans for too much longer, I hope anyway.

Ernst Tanaja

>>11419313
>Texas
>Bowie knives are illegal
>any form of sword / pollarm / etc etc etc are similarily illegal
>want to be a re-enactor? Too bad, you can use this pvc pipe

Yeah, nah.

>>11422660
the bill for that just got out of the house, but my info may be old

http://www.legis.state.tx.us/BillLookup/BillStages.aspx?LegSess=82R&Bill=HB2756

>>11422464
>you presume that all witnesses will maliciously lie to a peace officer

Actually THAT is a strawman.

I never claim such, only that it was possible and that a witness wouldn't have to lie to be incorrect about the INTENTION of the perp. A witness cannot read minds and that is what the law implies to determine accidental from intentional. Variations on intent can be argued as well, such as if having the chance of it being seen implies intent.

Again caselaw should say one way or the other for this. It seems to allow some leniency on slips, but I'm too lazy to bother looking it up.

here it comes

7 pages of cc info for NC

1 page of delicious army OC

Alright NOW I'm out.

Peace lame and flat bros.

>what real Mountains look like, you silly Texans.

>implying I don't back my arguments up

back in the Chisos, so lame and flat.

includes info if any NC bros want to get their permit

>>11422781
you ever been to enchanted rock?

"Intent" has very specific legal implications. Basically, if you're using an IWB holster, there's no case for intent. That's why the law says "intentionally".

Trying to redefine the legal imperative to prove "intent" to try and say "HURR DEM COPS CAN PROSSECUTE YA FER ANYTHIN" is just pic related. You guys are trying way, way to hard.

Keep going though, it's funneh to meh.

>implying ur rucksack can hold all dis buthrut
>implying u cul pik it up u profile rump rengur
>lol i but u enjered it when mepz ladee look @ ur bruthole

>>11422801
>intent has specific legal meaning
>But he INTENTIONALLY let his shirt ride up to scare people!

See how that works?

Basically, the argument that "HURRDUUR IT OPENS U UP TO PRAWSEKUSHUNS LOLOLOLOL" has the same legal merit as saying someone who walks into a kitchen supply store, and picks up a chef's knife to look at is now open to prosecution to anyone standing nearby who decides to scream "attempted murder!"

It's just no legally feasible. It's an amateurish hypothetical thought up by sloppy thinkers who really have no clue how law works.

But it's still funny, so keep going!

>>11422795
was there on good friday, packed as fuck.
Still one kick ass batholith.
Pic ofThe Sleeping Prince

I mean, to say that a law is bad because you interpret it (incorrectly) to mean that you are left open to prosecution is to bring into question every law ever written. Put another way, the axiom that "You may beat the rap, but you won't beat the ride" as a reason to judge the inherent utility of a law is just asymptomatic of a mind that simply doesn't think about things too deeply, and has really no idea how the justice system works. It's the "Obama gon git aer gunz!" of legal theory. Naturally, intelligent people discard it out of hand.

But it's funny to watch.

>>11422977
But if it's such a non-issue why have it anyway?

Add a clause that definitively states that accidental printing (or any printing) is okay.

I see what you mean though.

>that feel when such a shitposter everyone ignores you even when posting cool shit

>>11422723
>>11422723
>>11422723


>They could just say the CC'er was lying and did mean to have a slip. He said she said, and if the witness is a cop or other respected person, then you could be fucked.
>not a strawman
>you'renot saying, "you will run into a cop that will intentionally fuck you over by specifying that you were intentionally failing to conceal.

LOL, how does your brain even work, you blueberry enchanted fuck?