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    1.05 MB Anonymous 02/29/12(Wed)08:24 No.10952913  
    Hey /k/

    What are some of the most obvious and laughable discrepancies between Battlefield 3's depiction of combat and military and *actual* combat and military? Any real-world military maneuvers you could see being used in the BF3 multiplayer?

    Asking you because you know more about "real steel lol" than /v/ does.
    >> Anonymous 02/29/12(Wed)08:26 No.10952916
    You can get shot with a rifle in battle whereas you'll only get shot with a HiPoint playing the videas
    >> Anonymous 02/29/12(Wed)08:34 No.10952945
    >>10952913
    >most obvious and laughable

    Jet's flying at 50km/h
    >> Anonymous 02/29/12(Wed)08:37 No.10952953
    >Russians versus US
    >Russians have a chance to win.
    >> Anonymous 02/29/12(Wed)08:38 No.10952958
    I didn't realise Battlefield 3 was supposed to be a combat simulator. It's just a game, bro.
    >> Anonymous 02/29/12(Wed)08:40 No.10952967
    Well, vidya cannot into being cold as fuck/baking in armor, wet, hungry, and tired, 4 aspects that are constant factors of being a combat infantryman.

    BF3 doesn't simulate thirst very well, either. Or chafing, jock itch, and blisters.

    Otherwise, totally realistic in every way.
    >> Anonymous 02/29/12(Wed)08:42 No.10952972
    >implying bf3 is supposed to be some kind of milsim
    this aint arma 2
    >> Anonymous 02/29/12(Wed)08:43 No.10952976
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    >omg its not vidya gaem its almost real!
    >> Anonymous 02/29/12(Wed)08:46 No.10952988
    This game has fucking amazing sound
    >> Anonymous 02/29/12(Wed)08:48 No.10952994
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    >>10952913

    5 x 7.62 or 2 x 50 calibre hits to stop a guy moving.

    Also defibrillator god machine heals everything even if you've been zipped with 20-30mm taken a rocket fallen 800ft no parachute and would in reality be scorched with jet fuel. ALRIGHT YOUR GOOD TO GO. THANKS DOC.

    BE ADVISED.
    >> Anonymous 02/29/12(Wed)08:48 No.10952995
    >>10952988

    BC2 did sound better. Eargasm.
    >> Anonymous 02/29/12(Wed)08:49 No.10953001
    Gen 5 fighters going 30 miles per hour?
    >> Anonymous 02/29/12(Wed)08:51 No.10953004
    >>10952988

    I agree! Fucking eargasm every time I play a match.

    But c'mon guys, I'd like some thought put into these replies. Like... what about the radio chatter? What's up with all the "Be advised" and 'How copy?"'s
    >> Anonymous 02/29/12(Wed)08:52 No.10953010
    >>10952995
    Oh fuck dude, I know. Was just talking with some buddies about how we wished they did sound the same way.

    >headphones
    >options
    >war tapes
    >what the fuck kind of setting is war tapes
    OH JESUS FUCK MY EARS FUCKING HURT THIS IS FUCKING AWESOME
    >> Anonymous 02/29/12(Wed)08:56 No.10953024
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    >>10953001
    >Superbug
    >Gen 5
    EL OH EL


    I just play it because it's fun, no reason to think it's realistic in any way shape or form.
    PR was more realistic, and it's a damn mod from BF2.

    And to the "HURR CANCER" faggots, STALKER is /k/ as /k/ can get. Why not an authentic FPS that uses modern weaponry with semi-advanced ballistics with a bit of tweaks for balance?
    >> Anonymous 02/29/12(Wed)08:58 No.10953028
    >>10952988
    >>10952995
    >>10953010
    bc2's sound was great too, but it was too busy and noisy. overall the sound in bf3 is much easier to "understand" and it is crisper and cleaner. it's more authentic/documentary rather than FUCK YEAH LOUD AS SHIT NIGGA WE EXPLOSION BLAP BRAT BRUP BRUP BLAM (which was awesome anyway)
    >> Anonymous 02/29/12(Wed)08:59 No.10953031
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    >>10952995
    Everything about BC2 was better.

    I want to buy my best friend a BF game (on Xbox, all he has) cuz he did me such a great solid recently. One of his co-workers plays with us on XBL and agrees BC2 > BF3, but I think it might be dead at this point. I'd hate to give a gift that barely accomplishes the goal (for all of us to stay in touch by playing it together).

    Oh well, even BF3 has to be better than the only game we all have now- Reach.
    >> Anonymous 02/29/12(Wed)09:00 No.10953035
    Loopzooks
    >> Anonymous 02/29/12(Wed)09:01 No.10953040
    >>10952976
    >f35 and sukhoi flanker
    >f35 is a slow turning un-manuverable piece of shit that gets swatted out to the air by the sukhois

    seems like the most realistic game ever made to me
    >> Anonymous 02/29/12(Wed)09:05 No.10953056
    >>10952945
    You must play on the console version.
    >>10952953
    Every US vehicle is superior in maneuverability and speed in comparison to the russian counterparts in BF3. Even the jeeps. It kinda sucks.
    >> Anonymous 02/29/12(Wed)09:07 No.10953066
    I don't get what all the typical bashing is about. I think that BF3 is nice balance between fun and reality, something the doody tried to do, but crashed and burned as soon as modern warfare came out.

    In a way though, BF3 is almost like the embodiment of /k/. it's a very magical place
    >> Anonymous 02/29/12(Wed)09:07 No.10953069
    >>10953031
    Played BC2 yesterday, full rooms. Eargasm, eyegasm, orgasm.
    >> Anonymous 02/29/12(Wed)09:10 No.10953077
    >>10953056
    I kick ass in the T-90 but I suck in the Abrams.

    WHY?
    >> Anonymous 02/29/12(Wed)09:10 No.10953080
    >>10953056
    >You must play on the console version.
    Infact i do not. If you think the jets are fast there must be something wrong with you. Also why should the console versions jets have different speed?

    >Every US vehicle is superior in maneuverability and speed
    Is this really true? I get the feeling that the T90 is far better than the M1. It's definitly true for air vehicles (except jets).
    >> Anonymous 02/29/12(Wed)09:11 No.10953083
    >>10953077
    Because while the abrams is faster, ITS ASS IS SO FUCKING BIG YOU CAN HARDLY SHOOT BEHIND YOU. I'm better with the T-90 too.
    >> Anonymous 02/29/12(Wed)09:13 No.10953095
    >>10953080
    All of the aircraft in the console version are slower than the PC version, due to the inherent slowness of the controller setup it was necessary to balance the jets because console peasants had too much difficulty locking jets and choppers with AA weapons.
    >>10953080
    It is, but the T-90 does seem to be the exception. I think it is because it is smaller than the Abrams.
    >> Anonymous 02/29/12(Wed)09:13 No.10953097
    >>10953077
    >>10953077
    Super light green-colored cross hairs+bright as fuck background=missing a shit load of shots
    >> Anonymous 02/29/12(Wed)09:14 No.10953102
    FYI next patch the T-90's cross hair is getting fixed so it's not so out of line with the main gun. Gonna be rapeee. Although it did add a bit of authenticity because we all know slavshit isn't known for it's accuracy at range...
    >> Anonymous 02/29/12(Wed)09:15 No.10953107
    Shit like radio beacons, defibs, ammo/med kits that have entire hospitals/armories in them, motion sensors and the retarded non designated javelin flightpath. Oh and humvees that need more than one 120mm HEAT hit or RPG. And in flight repairs for helis.
    It would be much better if it had the far cry2 type of heal/repair mechanics. So you do something that would make some difference at least. Not electro shocking a guy that was just shot with 5, 12 gauge FRAG rounds (lol)
    >> Anonymous 02/29/12(Wed)09:16 No.10953110
    >>10953097
    the camera on the t90 is also mounted ABOVE the barrel of its gun, where on the abrams it's mounted next to it -- the barrel on the abrams blocks all your vision to your right
    >> Anonymous 02/29/12(Wed)09:16 No.10953114
    >>10953102
    >so it's not so out of line with the main gun.

    Really? I never had trouble aiming with it, infact i think it's far better than the M1 crosshair. Especially at range.
    >> Anonymous 02/29/12(Wed)09:16 No.10953115
    >>10952967
    I was thinking of the body aches.
    The constant knee and back pain from moving and moving tactically with all the heavy ass crap.
    Tripping and falling on your face with an additional 80 - 120 pounds strapped to on you is unpleasant.
    >> Anonymous 02/29/12(Wed)09:18 No.10953120
    >>10953107
    The only thing in that list that pisses me off is the fact that it takes more than 5 frag rounds to kill a guy. Fucking whiners had to nerf the most fun aspect of shotguns in BF3. I love being able to have 2 engineers hanging out of my little bird repairing me while I strafe run tanks and shit.
    >> Anonymous 02/29/12(Wed)09:20 No.10953127
    Did anyone else here who played BC2 make an effort at the start of each game to reduce every building to rubble and clear trees / bush before pressing on?

    >Using tanks to do this
    >Nigga's with AT weapons especially haven't got any cover
    >flatten everything like a baws
    >Pop smoke and roll out like a smooth criminal
    >Pop more smoke, smoke, smoke everywhere, you can't handle my smoke, bitches don't know bout lockin onto me with my smoke
    >> Anonymous 02/29/12(Wed)09:20 No.10953130
    >>10953120
    Fucking nigga jew bitch whore faggot faggot frag user pussy bitch.

    No one should have the power of an LAV in their fucking shuotgun, I hope you get nerfed to hell.
    >> Anonymous 02/29/12(Wed)09:23 No.10953137
    My biggest gripes all come from the small arms and health set up. I always end up taking the damned support class as you need to him an enemy groundpounder with five 7.62x54r to bring him down, when in real life, one chest shot, even if non-fatal would seriously realign his personal priorities
    >> Anonymous 02/29/12(Wed)09:23 No.10953138
    >>10953127

    Yeah i do it. It still drives me nuts that there are walls AND buildings you can't destroy in bf3. Good god in BC2 you could destroy almost everything.
    >> Anonymous 02/29/12(Wed)09:25 No.10953142
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    >What are some of the most obvious and laughable discrepancies between Battlefield 3's depiction of combat and military and *actual* combat and military?

    Dunno OP

    www.youtube.com/watch?v=Wx2hpuuVEd8#t=6s
    >> Anonymous 02/29/12(Wed)09:26 No.10953144
    Reported.

    go to >>>/vg/ or >>>/v/
    >> Anonymous 02/29/12(Wed)09:27 No.10953148
    I think one of the things that gets me the most is the hit detection. Whether it is getting hit while behind cover. Or how it always sound like they took you down in 3 shots every time you die.


    You have not time to response, so it just kinda becomes a luck thing.
    >> Anonymous 02/29/12(Wed)09:27 No.10953149
    i fucking LOVE jets in bf3
    on pc they don't seem overly slow, if anything they're pretty fast.
    Also, if you don't play HC you're a chump. 3rd person view is for faggots.
    >> Anonymous 02/29/12(Wed)09:28 No.10953152
    >>10953144
    SVT is that you?
    >> Anonymous 02/29/12(Wed)09:29 No.10953159
    >>10953144
    Thanks bruh.

    I was enjoying myself.

    Discrepancies include: full mag to kill anyone, hit by tank shell - defibrillator res works, magical welders, i could go on.

    Fun game though
    >> Anonymous 02/29/12(Wed)09:32 No.10953167
    Everything about launching and recovering on the carrier was so fucked to all hell I couldn't finish the single player after that
    >> Anonymous 02/29/12(Wed)09:35 No.10953178
    shit like this is why I play this game

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FOaGhE_sejI

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LrOIgxQ--Tc&feature=channel

    this and the trolling. can't forget the trolling
    >> Anonymous 02/29/12(Wed)09:47 No.10953219
    >>10953167

    only played campaign once. don't recall
    >> Anonymous 02/29/12(Wed)09:50 No.10953230
    >>10953056
    >Every US vehicle is superior in maneuverability and speed in comparison to the russian counterparts in BF3
    i don't think this is true, jets seem to have the exact same handling characteristics.
    Dogfights would be so uneven, and i rape everyone no matter what team i'm on
    >> Jay !Ip3bP.AEJs 02/29/12(Wed)09:50 No.10953231
    >>10953178
    That's.... that's actually pretty awesome. I now forgive the lack of realism.
    >> Anonymous 02/29/12(Wed)09:54 No.10953249
    Battlefield 3 doesnt have you going on stag (sentry for yanks) at 3 am
    Battlefield 3 doesnt let you jizz into the eyepiece of the CWS to leave for the next person
    >> Anonymous 02/29/12(Wed)10:01 No.10953279
    The damage system on the tank is hard to predict. I think it was smart because a disable of some kind is more likely than an outright explosion. I thought shaped charge warheads were first shot effective barring reactive armor though, while in the game RPGs and the like can sometimes take 4+ solid hits to the rear armor.

    Jets flying slow to the point of being as effective as helicopters at strafing. They should be in an unrecoverable stall many times over.

    Most of the infantry combat has been pretty acceptable to me even considering this isn't ARMA or PR.
    >> Anonymous 02/29/12(Wed)10:01 No.10953281
    >>10953230
    Its there, there are specsheets to back it up if you care to look, it isn't a lot, and I might be mistaken about jets, but I know for damned sure the choppers aren't balanced equally.
    >> Mildly Peturbed Madfag is indeed an AUGfag 02/29/12(Wed)10:03 No.10953287
    >>10953279
    >thought shaped charge warheads were first shot effective barring reactive armor though.

    You would be wrong.

    >while in the game RPGs and the like can sometimes take 4+ solid hits to the rear armor.

    An abrams can pretty much take way more than that, and not blow up, from rpg's.
    >> Mildly Peturbed Madfag is indeed an AUGfag 02/29/12(Wed)10:05 No.10953301
    >>10953281
    Jets are copy's of eatch other, the only difference is gemoatry (RU jet is easyer to hit, but the US a10 is easyer to hit than the frogfoot, due to shape and size). Scout helicopters are pretty much the same too.

    Other than that, they are different, but not game breakingly so.
    >> Mildly Peturbed Madfag is indeed an AUGfag 02/29/12(Wed)10:10 No.10953316
    God dammit, now i have to play. Fuck you all.
    >> Anonymous 02/29/12(Wed)10:12 No.10953328
    >drop a high explosive 60mm mortar round directly on a snipers head
    >need to repeat this 3 or 4 times to actually kill someone.
    so when did they swap out my explosive shells with wiffle balls
    >> Mildly Peturbed Madfag is indeed an AUGfag 02/29/12(Wed)10:14 No.10953338
    >>10953328
    Well, for one, your not playing on hard core. Two, think about it bro. If morters=irl, they would rule the fucking game.
    >> Anonymous 02/29/12(Wed)10:17 No.10953359
    >>10953338
    >>10953338
    this right here.
    >> Anonymous 02/29/12(Wed)10:23 No.10953386
    >>10953338
    it is balanced out by the fact that mortarmen have this magical little map where all the enemies in there killzone show up as vectored blips allowing you to be able to drop a round precisely onto a sniper's head to begin with, with hyper accuracy, and no need to coordinate whatsoever
    >> Anonymous 02/29/12(Wed)10:24 No.10953392
    >>10953338
    And they did before the nerf.

    You could hit anywhere on the map, only showed where you were for the THUMP, and you could THUMP-THUMP-THUMP-THUMP-THUMP
    >> Anonymous 02/29/12(Wed)10:30 No.10953410
    I know it's HUGELY less maneuverable than the cobra, but is the havoc faster as far as just running in a straight line goes?
    >> Mildly Peturbed Madfag is indeed an AUGfag 02/29/12(Wed)10:31 No.10953418
    >>10953392
    No, irl morters kill everything within 50 yards.

    think about it
    >> Deadpool !!kBsp4Ukt12d 02/29/12(Wed)10:32 No.10953422
    I stopped playing that shit ever since they raped frag shells.

    That was fucking fun as hell, and they took it away from me because of stupid whiny assclowns.
    >> Anonymous 02/29/12(Wed)10:33 No.10953430
    Who cares? Its just a game.
    >> Anonymous 02/29/12(Wed)10:37 No.10953444
    >>10953418
    yeah, but it's part of the trade of. think about it. It only takes one person to crew a tank in bf3, and the third person option gives much greater view than you'd have in a real tank, obviosly.

    but the tanks are weaker, too. I'm sure everyone's heard the stories of challie and abrams shrugging off RPG-7's like they were nothing, even the one's that were turned into completely useless hunks of metal by rpgs were able to protect their crew.
    But here, you take 3 rpgs, and as soon as your vehicle health is less than 50%, your tanks bursts into flames.

    at the very least, they got the armor right. the difference between where you land your rpgs or sheels (front, sides, or rear) is HUGE
    >> Anonymous 02/29/12(Wed)10:41 No.10953453
    >>10953422
    This, although I didn't stop playing, I just use it for trolling now.

    >Load up C4 onto a jeep
    >place 1 C4 on the back
    >fly into a tank
    >hop out and pop the c4 on the back with a frag round
    >xXMETALxGEARXx was killed by Anon with Frag rounds

    >xXMETALxGEARXx: WTF HOW U KILL TANK WIT FRAG ROUND
    >> Anonymous 02/29/12(Wed)10:43 No.10953457
    >>10953453
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=V9DM5QYLhyc
    >> Deadpool !!kBsp4Ukt12d 02/29/12(Wed)10:44 No.10953459
    >>10953453
    I'm going to have to try this.
    >> Anonymous 02/29/12(Wed)10:44 No.10953460
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    >>10953453

    remember snake & vulkan raven
    >> Anonymous 02/29/12(Wed)10:45 No.10953465
    With BF3 they copy/pasted everything from BFBC2 except for the fun.

    Never again EA, never again.
    >> Anonymous 02/29/12(Wed)10:46 No.10953466
    >>10953460
    Still one of the best games of all time.
    >> Anonymous 02/29/12(Wed)10:49 No.10953474
    >>10953453
    o god I have to try that.

    far as carbombing goes, my favorite thing to do is not place c4, but claymores to the hood of my car, facing out to the sides. I then drive through the urban areas, looking for splatter kills. if my aim is off and I don't hit them, the claymores on my car do.

    One time my brother and I were fucking around on some of the larger maps. I got in the dune buggy, and he got in the passenger seat as an engineer, blow torch equipped. we would drive all over the battle field looking for friendly tanks engaging enemy ones, and pull our dunebuggy up to the side and repair them. he didn't even have to get out.

    Next thing we want to try is like the the above, but throwing c4 onto enemy tanks instead
    >> Anonymous 02/29/12(Wed)10:50 No.10953477
    >>10953466
    strange... that's not how you spell Perfect Dark
    >> Anonymous 02/29/12(Wed)10:53 No.10953483
    >>10953477
    I said, "one of", meaning plural.
    >> Deadpool !!kBsp4Ukt12d 02/29/12(Wed)10:54 No.10953489
    >>10953477

    That's a funny way of spelling deus ex.
    >> bowtie !lvh0ucuLHw 02/29/12(Wed)10:54 No.10953490
    I noticed that on operation firestorm, the RU runway is like 94 or something, even though the highest number a runway number can go up to is 36...
    >> Anonymous 02/29/12(Wed)10:54 No.10953491
    >>10953489
    that's a strange way of spelling Ghost in the Shell
    >> Anonymous 02/29/12(Wed)10:55 No.10953494
    >>10953491
    you doofus, you need a K and an R to spell "snake eater"
    >> Deadpool !!kBsp4Ukt12d 02/29/12(Wed)10:56 No.10953502
    >>10953491
    That's an odd way of spelling day of the tentacle
    >> Anonymous 02/29/12(Wed)10:58 No.10953510
    >>10953490
    It's Russia, Fuck the police.
    >> anonymous 02/29/12(Wed)11:17 No.10953578
    >>10953120

    ohrly? I play bf3 at least once a day, shortly of course, and using the USAS 12, it only takes 2 frag rounds to kill someone with a dead hit.



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