Stay at home guard

Wait, you mean I'm actually supposed to do something to earn money?

I give crossdressing lessons in my basement.

surgical intern

earn 70K a year as an upfront salary, work a 50-60 hour week

not all of us are slackers

>>7280612
True. Some are disgusting normals.

Independent software contractor who works at home. I'm a true NEET around 5 months out of the year when I'm not working.

I play pretend. This year I was pretending to be a student so I could get money.

Security guard. Standing around all day every day doing nothing.

>>7280618
That sounds like a pretty fucking good lifestyle. How did you achieve that?

>>7280623

Freelance contractor that make double of most people.
Because of this I am always NEET half of the time.
Will be jobless by the end of next month.

I am freelancing high school student.

>>7280624
Computers were my only escape from the brutal existence of being bullied and having no friends in school growing up, so I learned how to write software starting from a young age by trial and error. By the time I was 24, I was an expert and worked at regular software development jobs for a few years and got more experience. Then I had something of a nervous breakdown and isolated myself, but later I was able to use my existing contacts to the outside world to get myself some high-paying contract jobs.

>>7280633
That's actually what I've been doing for the past few years. Staying at home and taking the occasional exam once in a while, without being "in education" by the exact definition of it.

Sure wish I was a NEET. I have to do things or my mom will kick me out. For about a year I pretended to look for work though, that was nice.

Did two years of law school, transfered to social planning for a year, transfered to journalism for another year then dropped out and went to a derelict art school.

Now I temp and do agency work for living money. I do a lot of proof reading and editing for acquaintances in my spare time because its pretty much my only talent.

I'm a clerk with the US Postal Service. I pretty much sort mail all day. I'm usually able to put on my headphones and focus on my work without really having to speak with anybody but the boss on an average day, so it's not so bad. I make a little over fifteen dollars an hour and 16.50 if I'm working overnight.

>>7280637
Which programming languages did you master over the years? You probably get asked this too often but I'm curious.

>>7280637
>so I learned how to write software starting from a young age by trial and error.

I am jealous of people whose parents got them programming since they were young or they picked it up on their own at a young age. It sucks having only started programming in university while most people in the classes have been doing it since they were 9~14 and probably know more than I'll ever know.

>>7280692
>It sucks having only started programming in university while most people in the classes have been doing it since they were 9~14 and probably know more than I'll ever know.
Damn, is it that bad? I'm getting into computer engineering in a few months, with the only thing I know about programming being how to print hello world in Python.

>>7280692
You don't really learn programming when you start young, you just fiddle a bit with things but never do anything really good.
You can't really say that you know programming until you've mastered abstract bullshite, which you generally don't understand until you're at least 16.

Middle school teacher here.

Starting quantitative development soon, basically maths and programming and big bonuses.

Yay

>>7280728
development/analysis* I don't know yet really

I go to school so my mom doesn't make me pay rent.

University student, 500km away from my parents.

In other words: NEET except in the month before exams week.

>>7280681
Started with BASIC and Pascal, but dropped those after a year and moved on into C, C++, and 32-bit x86 assembly. Later, while I was going to university, I picked up Java, C#, Objective-C, Perl, Python, Common Lisp, Scheme, SML, various SQL dialects, MIPS RISC assembly, Power assembly, ARM assembly, 64-bit x86-64 assembly.

Languages don't really matter when it comes to actually getting shit done in the field or getting a job. What matters is your ability to pick up and learn new technologies and languages quickly. I can learn a new language now in a matter of days and a few weeks to get used to the new libraries and frameworks.

Software development is a field of constant learning and constant adaptation. If you can't do that, you're not going to do very good.

I think programming upstarts should worry less about what language they learn and more on learning the underlying theory of computation. Focusing on languages is a sign of the amateur.

Med student.
No job while at uni.
Living at home.

>>7280700
I went into computer engineering knowing about that much (I'm the same guy who complained how I wish I started programming early).

In terms of classes, your lack of experience shouldn't affect your performance (if you're determined, you'll still do good and learn). The only problem is that your fellow classmates will always be way ahead of you. In my case I constantly hear about them bragging about what projects they're working on and what they're capable of doing whereas I always feel like I know nothing. But don't forget that computer engineering is more of a subset of electrical engineering with a mix of programming, so it's not like everything revolves around programming. I just really wish I had much more experience with it than I do now though.

>>7280704
Some indian guy at my uni was telling me he's been programming since the age of 3, lol.

I've just dabbled mostly in C++ and MATLAB over the past couple years and it's been enough to get me a job.

>>7280692
>>7280700
My parents didn't get me into programming. In fact, they were against every getting a computer, and when I finally convinced them to, they wouldn't let me use it for more than an hour a day. They were always telling me "stop wasting your life playing games in front of that screen" when I was in fact learning to program. Now I make more than both of them combined an only work 6-7 months out of the year. Revenge can be sweet.

Anyway, I spent a lot of my time over at my friend's house, they were kind enough to let me spend a lot of time there, and they had an extra 80486 machine with DOS 6 on it, and that's where I taught myself BASIC and Pascal (with Borland Turbo Pascal 7), starting at age 12.

I was motivated to make my own games. Learned enough about control flow from an example BASIC program in the Encyclopedia Britannica volume on computers to build a texture adventure game with an RPG combat system on my second day.

Got into VGA graphics programming in DOS in Pascal shortly there after, with the help of some demo coding tutorials I got off of a dial-up BBS. This was a year before the Internet came to our town, back in 1993 I think.

Was playing a lot of DOOM and DOOM II as well back then. Good times.

The only programming language worth learning now that can you net a job is
-C++
-Java
-RPG (for bank shit)
-PLC
-Labview and to a certain extent matlab

And you wont learn them in school besides the basic of the basic. Everything will be self taught later once you get into the job field. Going to school is pretty useless, you are just going there to get recognition.

>>7280751
Holy fuck

>>7280768
Er, I meant text adventure game. Sorry, kind of distracted, watching a movie on another screen at the same time.

Let's see,
I graduated college and started working as a subordinate-developer for a defense contractor
I quit because my bosses started changing deadline and requirements randomly.

I then started working as a technical adviser for a law firm. Going through computer evidence and explaining it to the lawyers, testifying in court, in addition to handling all their personal computer and networking needs.
I got fired when they went 3 months without using my expertise.

Now I work as a freelance Russian/Spanish to English translator, Network/Software specialist and housekeeper. It's not bad but the whole irregularity of pay thing keeps me searching for a new job constantly. Also people's homes are absolute messes.

Comp-sci bachelor year 3 student.
Working part-time as software developer/programmer in small company.
I preffer C# as a language, but I know most of C too.
And my general programming knowledge is above-average.

I need to learn C# for my next job. What's the best book to learn from?

I already know the main features of C++.

>>7280800
I learned it by reading the language specification and learned the .NET Framework libraries from MSDN reference. The .NET Framework libraries are very similar to the Java libraries in scope.

I find books on programming languages are far too watered down these days.

my occupation is being sick as shit

I'm a temp.

2nd year comp sci
I wanted to go into programming since I figured I couldn't find work in writing and figured they'd be similar enough. Took two networking classes and never really figured out how IPs and subnets work. Need those for the major, though I'm OK at programming (C#, C++, SQL (but need a lot of google)). I'm changing my major to business, I figure that if I can get an office job, I could just work in a cubicle with minimal contact, though looking back on what programming made, I might just try to double major.

HS graduate here. Serious question because my dad keeps bitching about me getting a job or going to a college. How do I find a job? What can I do after HS without any practice? Should I just knock to some firms and ask if they need someone to help in the storage room or something?

>>7280816
Isnt in your country an instutution, that manages people like that? So unless you know what kind of work do you want and places where you can find it, then go ask them.

I stay home and read my SICP.

>>7280816
Get your driver's license, and then it's not hard to get a delivery or courier job. Couriers can make like $20/hour or more, not bad for someone just starting out.

Otherwise, you're stuck with retail/service jobs that pay shit and are horrible and suck the life out of you.

Unemployed, and I didn't get accepted to my transfer school, so I need to find a job by fall. I had one several years back, but getting hired these days doesn't seem likely.

A neet since December, I'm looking for a job since march, tried to earn money with blogspot but only earned 100 bucks and it was too much work. I'm trying to code an iphone game but I'm slow as fuck, somehow this shit is nothing like my beloved C

That is autistic as fuck.

>>7280893
You're doing it wrong. You can use C/C++ and OpenGL on iOS. You only need to use Obj-C and Cocoa for the UIApplication delegate shell and your main UIWindow for handling user touches or accelerometer input data.

/jp/ - Programming/Computational Spirit Conjuring

im NEET as HELL, but in a few months i'll be going to college to learn how to draw in my laptop (im dead ass)

and im not saying witch college or else one of you might go and cause a school shooting or bomb the place

Oh yeah! You know I am doing it wrong. Lios, I am really dumb. That list makes me feel unsure; >/jp/ isn't a complete and utter shit hole like /prog/, mainly because weeaboos have double the average iq programmers have.

I teach language classes online, which means I work 15-20 hours a week. I'd like to work full-time but ...

>>7280909
It's unforgivable to program for iOS, though.

Apple Hate/General

>>7280925
Not, really. Many /prog/ and /jp/ posters are the same. The problem is that /prog/ has attracted some anti-infinity, anti-Jew trolls who are against practical programming languages like C or C++ and push their resurrection of Lisp machine programming environments. Plus it attracts upstart /b/ skiddies who like to flood the board with their bots.

united states air force stationed at Yokota (pssst that's Tokyo)

u jelly?

>>7280909
I'm using cocos2d so it's objective-c all day every day.

>>7280937
My first option was coding for android, but my country is not allowed to develop and sell yet.

People need to eat too, you know.

Why is programming so complicated?

Why can't they make it simpler? |:

I get paid to sage threads. 75cents per sage

laid off and on unemployment

>>7280962
>Why is programming so complicated?
To keep simple folk like you out of the industry.

>>7280964

you must be fucking rich!

graphic designer + video editor here. i couldn't handle a job which required me to do any ACTUAL work.

>>7280962
It is not complicated.

>>7280946
>>7280946
I am jelly. I work on computer system maintenance, and get to travel plenty. I've been to the Kansai airport to work for two weeks, but didn't get to travel around much at all. I didn't even step foot off Tajiri. I just recently finished my 4 years, as I had been working with only a 2 year degree in Electronics engineering for a while. Still made $28 an hour when I started though, which is a killing when you take into consideration that the company pays flights and hotel. My residence is in South Carolina, and starting out that high four years ago when only 20 years old made everyone really envious.

>>7280996
Aviation computer system maintenance*

>>7280996
Any tips for getting a job that lets you travel around a lot in engineering? I've always thought it sounded nice to travel around a lot for free, and it's not like I have to worry about abandoning my friends and family.

>>7280962
Learn Applescript, problem solved.

>>7281006
Honestly, I have no idea how to actually land a job. I used references from my college professors and old projects as experience, and my dad was pretty high up there already and was the one who told me to try and get the job. He also vouched for me, so that's what got me where I am today.

For my first part time job while in college, I just used a fake reference of a local restaurant that had shut down. They didn't bother to look deeper into it, and I got the job. I would have never been hired with no experience, so that was a good but risky thing to try.

Absolutely nothing, although I have to get a job soon. I don't plan to work for more than three years of my entire life though.

>>7281025
What's your plan?

>>7280601

I work in product development for F5 Networks. In 2010 I made 123k.

I still have no life though. I'm just a bent dick mutant that works continually to distract myself from the fact that I'm a horrible pervert with no redeeming qualities.

>>7281006
Telecommunication
RF Engineer
Since japan got fucked by the tsunami and the earthquake, there has been a shortage of engineers.
Pay is quite good as well, as a freelance contractor you can get 10k/month easily.

Nothing.

I leech off of society with my fat disability checks. No regrets so far.

>>7280721

Yeah right...

I'm employed by my dad and I work 6 hrs a week from his basement.

Freelancer programmers: How did you find your job? Where did you search for it? Found an ad somewhere?

I know it's a really vague question but I'm a bit lost and I don't know anyone experienced in programming.

>work a 50-60 hour week
i don't think i could do that.

i'd get a mental breakdown within a week if i had to waste so much time on doing something else than sitting in front of my monitor doing nothing at all.

10-20 hours a week maybe. i could stand to sit 4 hours per day in some other place, but not 10+

>>7281085
If you're good, you develop contacts and friends in the industry at regular jobs, and those people end up starting their own companies or have friends who do, and they need good programmers.

>>7281091
Go get diagnosed with ADD or something then get a prescription for adderall. In addition to making you more productive, it also reduces the urge to eat and makes you really good and video games.

College

University, trying to decide on whether I want to pursue a Ph.D.

College student. Other than it, nothing else.

>>7281029

Travel around homeless. Something of that sort. I don't feel as if I really fit into the job world so I want to be free.

Starting as an IT intern in July.

Black/whitesmith. I'm serious.

ε=ε=ε=ε=ε=ε=┌(;￣◇￣)┘まやなたなへらゆにやまにひらwww

I'm a US soldier stationed in Korea!

>>7281099
I don't have ADD, what's a better way of getting Adderall?

High school graduate studying for university entrance exams, no job. I really want to get in.

I own a gunshop and work as a gunsmith.

>>7281154
Act like you do.

>>7281170
Do you have a Mosin-Nagant I could buy?
I really like myself some reliable rifles with internal magazines.

>>7281170

Are you banned from /k/ again Boof? I haven't seen you on there in a while.

>>7281128
Belive me or not, but this is fucking amazing!

>>7281192
I was talking to an online friend that I'd known for a while, and turns out they're an apprentice meatcutter. I didn't even know they had apprenticeships these days still.
I wonder if that's sorta the same deal.

>>7281191
I have a thread planned tonight.

>>7281186
Get a K31

I'm a sales associate.

I hate my job.

I hate working in front of a cash register for any amount of hours, dealing with people who essentially have to have their hands held.

I'm trying to learn various skills like programming and video editing, graphic design, drawing, crafts/woodworking, etc. Anything to get me out of this horrible grind of a job.

>>7281208
B-But it doesn't have an internal magazine ;_;

I've posted this an embarrassing amount of times. I was Hiki/NEET for 8 years now I work as a greengrocer at a store.

Please, /jp/, never get a job.

>>7281198
Where I come from, we have these two year trade schools which go directly into apprenticeship, and we got ridiculous amounts of people going into them simply because there's less of the "boring subjects". I was one of them, and I partly blame that choice for me being a NEET today.

>>7281198
While cuting meat isn't interesting at all i really admire craft related jobs.

I am actually interested in becoming an investment banker.

I am already a pedophile so I guess I am halfway there.

>>7281210
>programming and video editing, graphic design, drawing, crafts/woodworking, etc.
Er, wouldn't it be more efficient to just focus on one, so you can quickly get to the level where you can use it as a marketable skill?

>>7280816
I have the same problem it's been a year since I graduated haven't found a steady job or has the money to go to college yet

well I was trying to become a machinist outta highschool then I found out they don't take many new people and said fuck it

what I learned was to
tig weld
torch weld
use a lathe
solder
among other stuff

I don't have an actual job, but I mess around on eBay for a few bucks. It gets me enough for the occasional fig or video game.

>>7281038
>Since japan got fucked by the tsunami and the earthquake, there has been a shortage of engineers.
Will that still apply 3 years from now when I actually graduate, though?

>>7281225
But I can't! I'm so desperate to do something that I'll do anything! I know I can't focus, and that's one of the many problems that have led me to near NEETdom, but I don't want to go back to cashiering, I hate it so much! I hate it! I hate it! Every day I look for something to do, any possible avenue at all! It all takes too long, but not having a job isn't an option in my situation, either! I just have to waste my time and health in front of a cash register until something else comes along! I HATE IT!

That's a bit of an exaggeration, but it's more or less my situation. I hate my current position and my current job sucks up too much of my time and energy to do anything about changing it.

>>7281238
Maybe.

>>7281233
I suppose that is the upside of having a job. Even though I despise my job and the people I work with, getting a bill from amiami for $350 like today, and being able to send it through with no stress makes life happier.

Is 21 too late to learn /prog/ shite
I feel as though I've missed all possible windows of opportunity because there are very few things that I have been studying consistently since I was a child.

>>7281311
I hope it's not, because that's exactly what I'm doing.

>>7281216

I can see what you mean. It seems kind of depressing to live only to get a job somewhere you hate working for half your life just so you can live a decent life. Some people may be fine with that life, but I'm not, and I'm neither smart nor talented enough nor diligent enough to create anything that can keep me from this fate, so I'm just going to live freely.

Web Development and Internet advertising. Never have to leave the house, and I make $25k a year. It's great, especially considering I'm only 19.

>>7281350
It is a way of life.
Make money->get the money to work for you->retire
You gotta beat the game.

I'm applying for my first job, a .NET developer position and going to an interview tomorrow. What should I brace for?

>>7281360

It is a more stable type of life, but it's not the kind for me. Others can live like that, but I don't want to. I absolutely despised school, and from what everyone tells me work is even worse. I refuse to live a kind of life I hate, but it seems as if I might not have many options.

>>7281350
You first have to accept that life involves doing some things you don't really feel like doing. This also goes for people who find something they're really passionate about and can earn money from, work will never be play even if you enjoy your field of work.

Once you've accepted this, you decide to find a way to minimize the amount of work you have to do in order to live a decent life. Getting an education that will get you a high paying job, cutting down your expenses (you're already miles ahead on this one if you're not planning to get a girlfriend or have kids), investing in something relatively low risk that will still ensure you of decent growth of your savings, etc.

Unfortunately I don't know enough about stuff like this to really give any useful advice, but my basic plan is to get an education and then a job in engineering, save up a good amount of money, and then move to a cheaper country and live off my savings or returns off the savings, and maybe the occasional freelance job.

>>7281371
You sound like me back when I dropped out of school. I think you'll realize pretty quickly that the unstable life is much tougher than you think it is. You're most likely a middle class kid who has gone through life never facing financial struggle, much less homelessness and starvation, so you take all your luxuries for granted and underestimate how horrible life will be for you without them.

You probably won't listen to me now, since it's easy enough to continue living inside your dreamworld where things will just work out somehow, but someday you will regret not having your priorities straight and focusing on such fleeting ambitions.

>>7281374

I already dropped out of college on my first year. There's no motivation for me to go. There's nothing I'm really passionate about that would get me working and enjoying it. I can understand doing things you don't like in order to get what you want, but it seems as if I'm putting in tons of work just to go exactly where I don't want to go. I don't expect free money or anything like that, I just don't want to have to work the vast majority of my life for barely any gain.