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    115 KB 少女時代 aka Girls Generation/SNSD/Shoujo Jidai first Japanese single Anonymous 04/26/11(Tue)12:07 No.7274947  
    Already the world's #1 girl group, here is SNSD's Japanese original new single 'Mr Taxi' and it is HHHHHHHOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOT :

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fhseD2tRLUY

    It is only the Dance version and the 'Regular' version will be released with the single drops on 4/27. Both of SNSD's singles that were translated to Japanese - "Genie" and "Gee" - went double-platinum (Sauce : RIAJ). How much higher will SNSD be in Japan with this original Japanese song?
    >> Anonymous 04/26/11(Tue)12:14 No.7274959
    Hold on.....................................................................


    aren't they korean? Also this song is shitty no creativity at all sounds like a ripoff of an american pop singer
    >> Anonymous 04/26/11(Tue)12:15 No.7274962
    >>7274959
    >no creativity

    obviously you never listened to jpop
    >> Anonymous 04/26/11(Tue)12:17 No.7274967
    >>7274962
    not >>7274959 but I have to agree with him that this song is shitty
    >> Anonymous 04/26/11(Tue)12:21 No.7274975
    korean groups (singing in japanese) are slowing taking over the jap music scene
    >> Anonymous 04/26/11(Tue)12:22 No.7274978
    >>7274962
    I have, but jpop most of the time has a distinct sound, and some artist really do experiment and it can vary . . . you can call me a weeaboo, but i don't like this stuff, just doesn't seem very japanese to me; it feels forced. .
    >> Anonymous 04/26/11(Tue)12:23 No.7274979
    /jp/ - Coreans & Otaku Culture
    >> Y10NRDY !kxh.1oTAkU 04/26/11(Tue)12:25 No.7274985
    Ehhh, kinda disappointing.

    This song rips off Gaga bad, the dancing is pretty uninspired, and the video is one-dimensional.

    I did like the middle-eight, though. That had a nice hook.
    >> Anonymous 04/26/11(Tue)12:27 No.7274989
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    >>7274978
    Do you feel the same with Japanese version of "Genie"?

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vxkb7Cx8qr8

    Because it went double platinum in Japan
    >> Anonymous 04/26/11(Tue)12:28 No.7274994
    >Also this song is shitty no creativity at all sounds like a ripoff of an american pop singer
    Sounds like a average Jap Pop band.
    >> Anonymous 04/26/11(Tue)12:29 No.7274996
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    >>7274989
    Do you feel the same with Japanese version of "Gee"?

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TmmExff_PTk

    Because it went double platinum in Japan also
    >> Anonymous 04/26/11(Tue)12:29 No.7274997
    get this shit off of /jp/
    >> Anonymous 04/26/11(Tue)12:30 No.7275000
    >>7274989
    Yea, bro. I still feel the same.

    Look at AKB, they don't need to rip off American style of pop: Catchy hook, word they will say over and over, oh look here's a random rap verse,e just throw that in.

    Even the korean accent when they speak japanese bothers me, Maybe i'm more japanese than the the japanese, but this shit is nothing like my Jpop. It's just koreans rehashing their shit in another language because i guess their country got tied of them.
    >> Anonymous 04/26/11(Tue)12:33 No.7275002
    >>7274997
    >get this shit off of /jp/

    I see threads for AKB48, Berryz, etc. Why isnt a japanese song by a girl group in Japan relevant to /jp/?
    If you dont like it, then just ignore it.
    >> Anonymous 04/26/11(Tue)12:37 No.7275017
    >>7275000
    >but this shit is nothing like my Jpop

    Explain the popularity of SNSD (and other Korean groups) in the Japanese music scene if it isnt like Jpop?
    >> Anonymous 04/26/11(Tue)12:37 No.7275019
    >>7275002
    Because they suck.
    >> Anonymous 04/26/11(Tue)12:38 No.7275023
    >>7275017
    Same reason people like music when it's translated to English. It was catchy when it was in its original form, but now you can relate to it more.
    >> Anonymous 04/26/11(Tue)12:39 No.7275027
    >>7274996
    I'm >>7274967
    I like this one better, not by much but better. Maybe they should just stick with singing in Korean, their accented japanese make it sound very awkward (or maybe that's because the tune was made for a korean lyric so it doesn't match, I dunno, but it's just awkward)

    For the record I do like Gee (the korean version, never heard the jap version before) so it's not like I'm biased against SNSD/Koreans or anything
    >> Anonymous 04/26/11(Tue)12:42 No.7275032
    >>7275019
    >Because they suck.

    The Japanese music-buyer in Japan disagree with you.
    >> Anonymous 04/26/11(Tue)12:43 No.7275037
    >>7275032
    What the fuck popularity or quantity has to do with anything? This shitty music is like Lady Gaga, both appeal to the masses with their diluted sounds.
    >> Anonymous 04/26/11(Tue)12:44 No.7275039
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    Box faced gook trying to advertise his shit on /jp/ when the idol faggotry is already hated as it is.

    0/10
    >> Anonymous 04/26/11(Tue)12:45 No.7275042
    >>7275037
    and I would be stupid to deny the popularity of Lady Gaga even if I hate her music.
    Why the fuck are some of you in /jp/ so butthurt that SNSD are popular in Japan and releasing original Japanese music?
    >> Anonymous 04/26/11(Tue)12:46 No.7275047
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    >>7275037
    >Lady Gaga
    >Shitty music
    >> Anonymous 04/26/11(Tue)12:47 No.7275049
    who gives a shit, fuck off back to facebook, gook.
    >> Anonymous 04/26/11(Tue)12:47 No.7275050
    >>7275042
    >releasing original Japanese music
    >gee

    wut
    >> Anonymous 04/26/11(Tue)12:48 No.7275052
    http://www.chinasmack.com/2011/videos/disgusting-male-fans-of-korean-pop-group-girls-generation.html

    oh oh oooh!
    >> Anonymous 04/26/11(Tue)12:49 No.7275057
    >>7275050
    >wut

    go to the link in the OP, listen/watch the music video ... that is original Japanese music by SHoujo Jidai/SNSD
    >> Anonymous 04/26/11(Tue)12:49 No.7275059
    >>7275042
    >Why the fuck are some of you in /jp/ so butthurt that SNSD are popular in Japan and releasing original Japanese music?
    No one is butthurt here apart from the fact that you're pathetically trying to advertise something that is not even relevant to the board, nor does it interest its habitants.
    Besides, I have idol threads filtered. The last fucking thing we need is another whiny idol retards like you who think we care about this shit.

    >Girls Generation/SNSD
    Here, have a filter.
    >> Anonymous 04/26/11(Tue)12:50 No.7275063
    >>7275053
    >that is not even relevant to the board

    Is AKB, Berryz,etc relevant to this board? I see tons of threads dedicated to them.
    How is a Japanese song by a girl group not relevant to /jp?
    >> Anonymous 04/26/11(Tue)12:52 No.7275070
    Face it guy, otaku culture also includes idol worshipping. Just filter the thread if you don't like it.
    >> Anonymous 04/26/11(Tue)12:53 No.7275075
    >>7275063
    I hear songs in English all the time, you don't see me claiming them to be from England.

    Korean song by koreans
    >>>/int/
    >> Anonymous 04/26/11(Tue)12:53 No.7275076
    >>7275063
    I constantly see only one idol general thread on /jp/. This thread reads like some advertisement to me. As if Koreans got on hold of something they can finally be proud of and they're telling to the world. How should I put it? Desperate?
    >> Anonymous 04/26/11(Tue)12:55 No.7275084
    >>7275075
    He already posted this on /int/, and who knows how many other boards.
    >> Anonymous 04/26/11(Tue)12:56 No.7275088
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    >dem outfits
    >> Anonymous 04/26/11(Tue)12:57 No.7275091
    >>7275076
    I went back just 5 pages in /jp/ and below are 3 threads dedicated to music/idols/etc

    >>7230651
    >>7259775
    >>7274521
    >> Anonymous 04/26/11(Tue)12:58 No.7275092
    >>>/int/3478826
    >> Anonymous 04/26/11(Tue)13:01 No.7275102
    >>7275091
    You just posted the idol general thread I mentioned and another one that I have no clue of. Do any of them look like some frenzy punky trying to shove down his crap in your throat like this thread?

    Seems like arguing with you is kind of pointless since you don't even seem to regular this board. I'll just hide and report this thread and I suggest everyone else to do the same.
    >> Anonymous 04/26/11(Tue)13:02 No.7275107
    >>7275092
    Oh wow, getting told even on /int/. Must be harsh being a fan of plastic surgery gook shit.
    >> Anonymous 04/26/11(Tue)13:04 No.7275117
    plastic surgery
    100kg of makeup
    and still ugly
    >> Anonymous 04/26/11(Tue)13:06 No.7275126
    It looks like the next few months of trolling will be done with "just ignore my thread you meanies"!!
    >> Anonymous 04/26/11(Tue)13:07 No.7275131
    >>7275102
    >shove down his crap

    shove down Shoujo Jidai to /jp? Trust me, SNSD doesnt need my help to make them popular in Japan, they seem to be doing fine.
    >> Anonymous 04/26/11(Tue)13:07 No.7275132
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    >>7275076
    >As if Koreans got on hold of something they can finally be proud of and they're telling to the world.
    This.
    >> Anonymous 04/26/11(Tue)13:09 No.7275136
    >>7275131
    >SNSD doesnt need my help to make them popular
    And yet you feel the need to advertise this on /jp/, totally contradicting yourself.
    >> Anonymous 04/26/11(Tue)13:10 No.7275141
    >>7275136

    Not OP, but talking about something isn't always advertising.

    Plus 4chan doesn't exactly buy CDs.

    I guess the topic should be : how does /jp/ feel about the Korean influence in Japanese culture ?
    >> Anonymous 04/26/11(Tue)13:11 No.7275143
    Why do japanese music companies always disable ratings and comments in their vids that they upload on Youtube? It seems kinda pointless.
    >> Anonymous 04/26/11(Tue)13:12 No.7275147
    >>7275141
    >Korean influence in Japanese culture

    That is the biggest reason why /jp/ hates SNSD although the people in Japan themselves dont have a problem with it.
    >> Anonymous 04/26/11(Tue)13:13 No.7275151
    >>7275141
    >how does /jp/ feel about the Korean influence in Japanese culture ?

    Indifferent considering it's not /jp/ related, at all. Now excuse me while i continue to fap to my towhows
    >> Anonymous 04/26/11(Tue)13:13 No.7275152
    >>7275141
    >Not OP, but talking about something isn't always advertising.
    You're right. But this thread is advertising. If you can't see that then you're the OP. Look, no one wants you here. Not even /int/ wants you on their board. So take a clue and fuck off.
    >> Y10NRDY !kxh.1oTAkU 04/26/11(Tue)13:13 No.7275153
    I think we should allow this. It seems like one of the loopholes that was created when the board changed names.

    This is an idol group. Idol groups are otaku culture.
    >> Anonymous 04/26/11(Tue)13:14 No.7275157
    >>7275147

    New converts are often overzealous, not that uncommon.

    I find Asian culture interesting as a whole, shame /jp/ seems so sectarian.
    >> Anonymous 04/26/11(Tue)13:19 No.7275174
    >>7275152

    I find it strange to use the concept of "being wanted" on an anonymous board.

    Regardless, I'm still not OP, and I can only find that I these threads interesting.

    I can't help you being asspained however, and recommend anti-pyretics to ease your suffering.

    Also, you're probably stuck with these kinds of threads. /kr/ won't be created before 4chan dies.
    >> Anonymous 04/26/11(Tue)13:21 No.7275182
    Does Corea have a wota culture, or is it pretty much Japan-exclusive?
    >> Anonymous 04/26/11(Tue)13:21 No.7275183
    plastic surgery is not otaku culture
    >> Anonymous 04/26/11(Tue)13:25 No.7275199
    >>7275174
    So in short, you encourage shitposting?

    >I can only find that I these threads interesting.
    Only Koreans themselves find these threads interesting.
    >> Anonymous 04/26/11(Tue)13:26 No.7275203
    >>7275182
    They do. They have 'fan clubs' which have been known to do silent protests, hunger strikes etc. Mostly the female fans of male groups that do this shit mind you (i.e super junior and 2PM) but the male fans can be as crazy (guy that got on stage and dragged to drag taeyeon off)

    I used to be pretty into all this when gee was still a big thing.
    >> Anonymous 04/26/11(Tue)13:26 No.7275208
    >>7275199

    > stop liking what I don't like
    >> Anonymous 04/26/11(Tue)13:28 No.7275217
    >>7275182
    I remember watching a video of Korean soldiers dancing and mimicking Momusu's Love Revolution 21's PV.
    >> Anonymous 04/26/11(Tue)13:30 No.7275230
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    >>7275183
    >>7275182
    >>7275132
    >>7275117
    >>7275107
    >>7275052
    >>7275049
    >>7275039
    >>7275000
    >>7274959
    Look at these wee/japs/taiwanese LOL

    Your tears are delicious.
    >> Anonymous 04/26/11(Tue)13:33 No.7275237
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    >>7275230
    About that plastic surgery...
    >> Anonymous 04/26/11(Tue)13:33 No.7275239
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    Japs are the Jews of Asia.
    >> Anonymous 04/26/11(Tue)13:35 No.7275244
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    >>7275237
    Bring me something not made by Japs, taiwanese scum!
    >> Anonymous 04/26/11(Tue)13:36 No.7275247
    >>7275239
    >http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cultural_revolution
    Modern China and Japan are totally the same thing as ancient China and Japan amirite chink?
    >> Anonymous 04/26/11(Tue)13:37 No.7275252
    >>7275244
    >http://www.asianplasticsurgeryguide.com/news10-2/081003_south-korea-highest.html
    >> Anonymous 04/26/11(Tue)13:38 No.7275254
    >>7275247
    Besides the fact that "modern Japanese culture" is just the same as the American?

    Cry moar tai.
    >> Anonymous 04/26/11(Tue)13:39 No.7275257
    >>7275254
    Besides the fact that every modern culture is just the same as the American going by your logic? Oh wait, there was that China and Korea imitating and carbon copying Japan.
    >> Anonymous 04/26/11(Tue)13:40 No.7275259
    >>7275254
    >"modern Japanese culture" is just the same as the American?
    back that up if you can
    >> Anonymous 04/26/11(Tue)13:42 No.7275260
    >>7275252
    >You can easily know that how eagerly, systemetically Japanese are doing something 'Dirty works' to put down images of Korea on youtube when you see some threads related Korea on 2ch site of Japan. Even they were so glad of making a Kpop music clip of ten million views deleted. Surely they have a special team for youtube and I've even heard that they have supported some money from some right-wing companies
    >They are doing anyting they can do with any sauces can make Korea depreciated. Korea's football,politics, plastic surgery, Kpop..etc..They've disorted everything. Koreans call this acting "HUMHAN"
    >> Anonymous 04/26/11(Tue)13:47 No.7275276
    >>7275257
    >imitating and carbon copying Japan.
    Not quite.
    You are just blind by your weeabooness.
    >>7275259
    ok then, say one thing that Japs created to their "modern Japanese culture" besides "improving" and "giving them a Japanese feel" like mostly of you weeaboos say.
    >> Anonymous 04/26/11(Tue)13:51 No.7275289
    >>7275276
    So you can't give your own example to back it up? okay
    >> Anonymous 04/26/11(Tue)13:53 No.7275299
    >>7275289
    Oh you meant that?
    Ok, Japanese pop music.
    >> Anonymous 04/26/11(Tue)13:54 No.7275301
    >>7275276
    >Not quite.
    >You are just blind by your weeabooness.
    Labelling your music as "K-pop". Trying to ride on the popularity of manga by imitating the art style just to name a few. The only thing that I find unique in Korea is that they have a dedicated culture based on Starcraft.

    Dude are you ignoring the fact that Japanese pop culture is the fucking reverse of any country's modern culture? Are you saying that you can find places like Akihabara from the US? If it's some country then it's Japan whose modern culture differs from the rest of the world. Either in good or bad way.
    >> Anonymous 04/26/11(Tue)13:56 No.7275309
    >>7275276
    >"improving" and "giving them a Japanese feel"
    look guys, I spew something that I have no clue of!

    I find it funny that even though koreans imitate and copy, they've incapable of coming up with anything worthwhile.
    >> Anonymous 04/26/11(Tue)13:56 No.7275310
    >>7275299
    uhuh...? just mentioning something does not equal justifying your claim with it. And your claim was

    >"modern Japanese culture" is just the same as the American?

    and with that I'll expect you to back up your claim from various parts of modern japanese culture, not just one tiny part of it.
    >> Anonymous 04/26/11(Tue)13:57 No.7275312
    >>7275309

    Samsung is already the biggest high-tech conglomerate.

    By 2020, Japan will be useless to Korea.
    >> Anonymous 04/26/11(Tue)13:59 No.7275320
    >>7275310

    Tom Cruise, The Last Samuraï.

    YOU CANNOT DENY THIS TRUTH.
    >> Anonymous 04/26/11(Tue)13:59 No.7275321
    >>7275276
    >say one thing that Japs created to their "modern Japanese culture" besides "improving" and "giving them a Japanese feel"

    look at the title of this board, moron
    >> Anonymous 04/26/11(Tue)14:01 No.7275328
    >>7275312
    Sorry to burst your bubble but I don't think any country has the luxury to ignore Japan as a potential source of income, if that's what you meant.
    >> Anonymous 04/26/11(Tue)14:05 No.7275339
    >>7275328

    I'm speaking technology.

    Japan will just be another market, like China or Germany.
    >> Anonymous 04/26/11(Tue)14:14 No.7275359
    >>7275339
    The fact that you write off China and Germany as "just another market" shows you really know nothing about global economics.
    >> Anonymous 04/26/11(Tue)14:22 No.7275385
    >>7275301
    >Labelling your music as "K-pop". Trying to ride on the popularity of manga by imitating the art style just to name a few.
    Wtf are you talking about?
    K-pop is just pop music made in Korean just like J-pop,
    >Trying to ride on the popularity of manga by imitating the art style just to name a few.
    Yes I agree that Manga is popular, but imitating the art style? That's just biased.
    >>7275309
    Look at the mad weeaboo with no argument.
    >>7275310
    Like I said every part of "Modern Japanese culture" is "improving" and "giving them a Japanese feel".
    Manga, Anime, VNs, Games, Guitars, etc
    >> Anonymous 04/26/11(Tue)14:22 No.7275386
    I really like SNSD but op is kinda making the whole fanbase look rude and stupid.

    SNSD is great but not great enough to take over the japanese music scene they should stay in korea.
    >> Anonymous 04/26/11(Tue)14:22 No.7275387
    >>7275359

    GDPs tend to spread out. We'll never reach Walrassian "atomization" of the global markets, but still.

    If I know nothing of economics, I guess my students are in deep shit. Exams are coming soon, too.
    >> Anonymous 04/26/11(Tue)14:23 No.7275390
    >>7275387
    Your students done fucked.
    >> Anonymous 04/26/11(Tue)14:26 No.7275397
    >>7275387
    Incompetent professors? Not news.
    >> Ayashiro !Hime2512LA 04/26/11(Tue)14:26 No.7275399
    Gee gee gee gee baby baby baby
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    >> Anonymous 04/26/11(Tue)14:28 No.7275404
    >>7275397
    >>7275390

    Sooo edgy.
    >> Anonymous 04/26/11(Tue)14:31 No.7275412
    Dirty Korean accent.
    >> Anonymous 04/26/11(Tue)14:36 No.7275437
    >>7275385
    >but imitating the art style? That's just biased.
    It's not biased at all. One look at Verita, Shin Angyo Onshi and the like should tell you what I mean.

    >Like I said every part of "Modern Japanese culture" is "improving" and "giving them a Japanese feel".
    The problem with this kind of thinking is that you're not willing to pass them as "original" just because they're based on something. With the same logic every modern gun should be attributed to ancient China right? Sorry, it does not work that way.

    Tell me, does anime remind you of any other country's cartoons? As far as I'm concerned, they're really really unique as far as artistic freedom is concerned.
    What about manga? Do they remind you of American or European comics?
    VNs are totally a Japanese thing. There is nothing similar in the West.
    And games.. did the 80-00s lapse from your memory as the golden age of Japanese games, when they actually had originality and influenced a lot of people? I'm really not sure what you're trying to achieve with this sort of thinking.

    There's no such thing as "improving" or "giving them Japanese feeling". They're totally original works, for fuck sake. Despite Korea/China perpretating in the same kind of "copying", what original things have they spawned then? If these things are so easy to copy, where are their games? Where are their VNs? What about anime or manga?
    >> Anonymous 04/26/11(Tue)14:41 No.7275453
    If anybody is fluent in the Japanese language, can you tell me how good/bad is their Japanese pronunciation?
    >> Anonymous 04/26/11(Tue)14:41 No.7275455
    >>7275247
    >http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cultural_revolution
    >Modern China and Japan are totally the same thing as ancient China and Japan amirite chink?
    >cultural revolution
    >not traditionally chinese

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Burning_of_books_and_burying_of_scholars

    nothing new here.

    cultural revolutions are the most defining things in chinese culture.
    >> Anonymous 04/26/11(Tue)14:49 No.7275495
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    Does anyone have any downloadlink for the Japanese versions of Geenie and Gee?
    >> Anonymous 04/26/11(Tue)14:51 No.7275505
    >>7275495
    see
    >>7274989 for Genie
    >>7274996 for Gee
    >> Anonymous 04/26/11(Tue)14:53 No.7275509
    >>7275385
    >Like I said every part of "Modern Japanese culture" is "improving" and "giving them a Japanese feel".
    >Manga, Anime, VNs, Games, Guitars, etc

    Like I said, back that up. Mentioning things =/= justifying your claim. How are te things you mentioned just "improving" and "giving a japanese feel" to something that comes from America? by the way >>7275437 countered your petty excuse of an argument pretty well if you're interested

    And again this is just a small part of modern japanese culture. Culture includes other things like food, ethics, clothing, etc and I'd like to see you convince me that all of those are the same with america's
    >> Anonymous 04/26/11(Tue)14:56 No.7275514
    >>7274947
    >>7274989
    >>7274996
    I have to admit I enjoy seeing them dance. I mean, they're kinda sexy (nvm plastic surgery/whatever)
    >> Anonymous 04/26/11(Tue)14:57 No.7275519
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    >>7275505
    >Not satisfied with Youtube quality
    >> Anonymous 04/26/11(Tue)14:58 No.7275520
    I don't care. I just wanna do them.
    Right now.

    Now is too late, before now. In fact I wanna already have done them, is that possible?
    >> Anonymous 04/26/11(Tue)14:59 No.7275524
    >>7275520
    seconding this
    >> Anonymous 04/26/11(Tue)15:00 No.7275525
    >Already the world's #1 girl group

    damn the competition must be fierce
    >> Anonymous 04/26/11(Tue)15:01 No.7275530
    awww look the gooks think they are nipponensei <3
    >> Anonymous 04/26/11(Tue)15:08 No.7275552
    >>7275437
    >It's not biased at all. One look at Verita, Shin Angyo Onshi and the like should tell you what I mean.
    Couln't it be coincidense?
    Also I don't if you know DFO, but its official mahwa art-style is unique.
    >With the same logic every modern gun should be attributed to ancient China right? Sorry, it does not work that way.
    No, every country had its own style of guns etc.
    >Tell me, does anime remind you of any other country's cartoons? As far as I'm concerned, they're really really unique as far as artistic freedom is concerned.
    Yes, seinen anime remind me of American comics that existed much before seinen anime.
    >What about manga? Do they remind you of American or European comics?
    Same as above, but also I guess the "generic big eyed anime" style originated because it's far more easier than quality seinen.
    >VNs are totally a Japanese thing. There is nothing similar in the West.
    Not quite, American/European Visual Novels existed before the usual "colorful" virtual Japanese VNs that we know today.
    >And games.. did the 80-00s lapse from your memory as the golden age of Japanese games, when they actually had originality and influenced a lot of people? I'm really not sure what you're trying to achieve with this sort of thinking.
    It was not only the golden age for the Japanese, but because of economical fators, they produced video games that everyone could use and then influenced everyone.

    >There's no such thing as "improving" or "giving them Japanese feeling". They're totally original works, for fuck sake.
    They are not original works, they are stolen works that had better luck with the rest of the world.
    Despite Korea/China perpretating in the same kind of "copying", what original things have they spawned then? If these things are so easy to copy, where are their games? Where are their VNs? What about anime or manga?
    They are not as popular the as Japanese, but there are.
    >> Anonymous 04/26/11(Tue)15:08 No.7275553
    >>7275525
    it still doesnt change that they #1. AKB48 is much bigger than SNSD in Japan, but nobody outside of Japan gives a shit about them.
    SNSD popularity extends from China to the Phillipines to the US to France (where they just sold out an upcoming concert)
    >> Anonymous 04/26/11(Tue)15:11 No.7275558
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    >> Anonymous 04/26/11(Tue)15:12 No.7275561
    >>7275552
    >With the same logic every modern gun should be attributed to ancient China right? Sorry, it does not work that way.
    >No, every country had its own style of guns etc
    and so does anime is a different style of cartoons *yawn* (guns first originates from china's which were then improved by other countries and made to feel like it's their own creation. If that's original so is whatever japanese media you mentioned before)
    >> Anonymous 04/26/11(Tue)15:17 No.7275569
    >>7275530
    Right spelling is nipponjin dirty tai.
    >>7275509
    >And again this is just a small part of modern japanese culture. Culture includes other things like food, ethics, clothing, etc and I'd like to see you convince me that all of those are the same with america's
    Food:
    Fish, because the nation is an island and besides that nothing else is tipycalli Japanese.
    Clothes:
    Just look at the Chinese and Korean clothes, they are very similar to the Japanese
    Ethics:
    Japan/Korea
    Pretty much the same in urban areas. China I don't know, there are many ethinic groups there.
    >> Anonymous 04/26/11(Tue)15:23 No.7275575
    >>7275561
    I was talking about China/Korea relation with Japan.
    Also
    >*yawn*
    Stop being pretentious you sound like a typical weeaboo retard.
    >> Anonymous 04/26/11(Tue)15:29 No.7275599
    >>7275569
    >Food:
    >Fish, because the nation is an island and besides that nothing else is tipycalli Japanese.
    The way they cook is so different from americansso I can't see what you're talking about. Anyway, you found one thing different there so japan=/=america

    >Clothes:
    >Just look at the Chinese and Korean clothes, they are very similar to the Japanese
    and chinese/korean cloths are just like americans right?

    Anyway, there's nothing wrong with nearby countries having similar style of clothing - they are still original (to all three countres)

    >Ethics:
    >Japan/Korea
    >Pretty much the same in urban areas. China I don't know, there are many ethinic groups there.
    >Pretty much the same in urban areas.
    Uhuh... since when americans emphasises respecting your elders/superiors/seniors to the point you have to use different more polite vocabularies to talk to them? and that's just a small part of it
    \
    >> Anonymous 04/26/11(Tue)15:30 No.7275603
    Long thread is long.

    If you want a couple examples of "culture" unique to japan look at the old samarai movies. Any movie buff over 30 will tell you that all the old west movies made in hollywood were pretty much western interpretations of japanese samarai movies.

    There are other examples like this. The lion king had a japanese predecessor as well, or more like the lion king is actually a carbon copy of a japanese anime.

    Idols are also a japanese invention to a large extent. Justin Beiber and Selena Gomaz, as much as I hate to say it, are modeled after the japanese "aidoru" which has been around sense the 70s.
    >> Anonymous 04/26/11(Tue)15:31 No.7275608
    >>7275577
    >You're entire post is totally void of any examples and sources and reeks of "I THINK" mentality
    Lol I could say the same to your biased thinking.
    >What does this even mean.
    Think I little.
    >Okay. I'm done with you.
    Typical blind person with no arguments.

    YOU read my post again.
    >> Anonymous 04/26/11(Tue)15:31 No.7275611
    >>7275552
    Your entire post is totally void of any examples and sources and reeks of "I THINK" mentality. I don't even know where to begin with. Are you really that desperate that you come up with such diarrhea?

    >It was not only the golden age for the Japanese, but because of economical fators, they produced video games that everyone could use and then influenced everyone.
    What does this even mean.

    >They are not original works, they are stolen works that had better luck with the rest of the world.
    Okay. I'm done with you. You lack even the tiniest bit of critical thinking needed to comprehend what other people write. I'm not going to waste more time with you, please read my post again with great scrutinity. Just be aware that whatever your country comes up with in the future is not something you should be proud of because in the end, they're just lame copies that are based on something else. Just like this SNSD band and kimchi that you're so proud of.

    Although, I do suspect that you're just projecting here now since your own country lacks originality. Have a nice day.
    >> Anonymous 04/26/11(Tue)15:34 No.7275625
    >>7275608
    >Lol I could say the same to your biased thinking.
    It's not biased thinking. It's called logic, you dumbass.
    >Think I little.
    I gave a little bit of thought at the diarrhea you spew at me. Still doesn't make sense. Why was it the Japanese that produced most of the games? Why wasn't it Koreans? Or Germans? You're trying too hard with little thought put into your arguments.
    >Typical blind person with no arguments.
    That's nice. Just remember: Just be aware that whatever your country comes up with in the future is not something you should be proud of, because in the end, they're just lame copies that are based on something else. Just like this SNSD band and kimchi that you're so proud of.
    >> Anonymous 04/26/11(Tue)15:35 No.7275627
    >>7275603
    Blind weeaboo is blind.

    No sources, no logical argument...
    A typical weeaboo.
    >> Anonymous 04/26/11(Tue)15:36 No.7275632
    >>7275575
    >Stop being pretentious
    Only because you are applying double standards in your argument and is basically contradicting yourself (so if western countries improve on things they're making original styles of things but when japanese does the same thy're copying?)

    by the way, you already disprove your original claim that modern japanese culture are the same witth americans' yourself. Just read your own posts, how many different parts of japanese culture that is different from americans' have you mentioned so far? (hint: fish, clothes)

    and see >>7275597
    especially
    >Your entire post is totally void of any examples and sources and reeks of "I THINK"
    >You lack even the tiniest bit of critical thinking
    >> Anonymous 04/26/11(Tue)15:36 No.7275634
    >>7275611
    >you're just projecting here now since your own country lacks originality.
    I couldn't have said it better
    >> Anonymous 04/26/11(Tue)15:36 No.7275635
    >>7275553
    No fucking way.

    AKB48 routinely does concerts around the world. They are way more popular than SNSD.

    In Japan alone they've broken the 1 million mark more than a couple times. SNSD has a hard time making a couple hundred thousand, even when you include japan.
    >> Anonymous 04/26/11(Tue)15:39 No.7275643
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    >this whole thread

    SNSD's japanese music is terrible. the korean songs sound very awkward in japanese and it's just bad. mr.taxi is alright, but those bitches need to go back to korea. the only group that has benefited from debuting in japan is KARA, who is more popular there then they ever were in korea.

    also go back to /mu/, saged, reported, etc
    >> Anonymous 04/26/11(Tue)15:40 No.7275646
    >>7275627
    Those examples are real. Just check google.

    I'm not trying to argue anything nor am I sure what everyone else in this thread is arguing but someone, somewhere wanted examples of japan producing something not based on American exports and I provided at least two examples not only of this, but of America going back and copying the Japanese.
    >> Anonymous 04/26/11(Tue)15:41 No.7275651
    This thread makes me want to take a shit.
    >> Anonymous 04/26/11(Tue)15:43 No.7275659
    >>7275627
    >No sources, no logical argument...
    The whole Star Wars copies Akira Kurosawa's movies. I thought this was a common fact.
    >> Anonymous 04/26/11(Tue)15:45 No.7275660
    >>7275625
    >logic
    What kind of logic?Biased logic?
    >Why was it the Japanese that produced most of the games?
    Again with weeabooness.
    The Japanese produced POPULAR games this don't mean western people didn't produce games on DOS.
    And in the other post by video game I meant console.

    >just lame copies that are based on something else.
    Protip:
    Japan.
    >> Anonymous 04/26/11(Tue)15:47 No.7275663
    >>7275646
    >someone, somewhere wanted examples of japan producing something not based on American exports and I provided at least two examples not only of this, but of America going back and copying the Japanese
    Yea, that's me. Some idiot claims that japanese culture is just a copy of american's and I'm getting him back that claim up, which he can't (but "tried" anyway), and that sort of resulted in the whole mess above. Thank you very much for the help.
    >> Anonymous 04/26/11(Tue)15:49 No.7275674
    >>7275660
    so why were the games popular?
    >> Anonymous 04/26/11(Tue)15:50 No.7275684
    >>7275660
    >console
    As far sa I rember the first console around was sega and nitendo and I'm sure they're japanese companies. This means consoles are japanese creations, original japanese creations. Now, I might be wrong as I wasn't born yet when consoles first arrives in the market but there you go.
    >> Anonymous 04/26/11(Tue)15:50 No.7275685
    >>7275659
    Japan has actually had quite a large impact on hollywood -- talk to anyone who has been around for a while and they'll give you plenty of examples. A lot of this was common knowledge when I was growing up (I'm 22 now) but it seems on 4chan people are too racist to see any of this.
    >> Anonymous 04/26/11(Tue)15:51 No.7275690
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    I love how it's always the SNSD faggot strating these threads. At least you could've used KARA as an example of a Korean pop band (hint: it's quite different from idols) that found success in Japan, if nothing else at least you wouldn't have given away that you're the same insecure faggot who probably jumped on the bandwagon because you heard their song in between Starcraft matches.
    >> Anonymous 04/26/11(Tue)15:52 No.7275698
    >>7275685
    More like some retarded Korean is so jealous that he has to label everything Japan makes as "copying". Speaking as a Korean myself, I find this quite sad.
    >> Anonymous 04/26/11(Tue)15:55 No.7275706
    >>7275646
    Again with the weeabooness.

    Just because some weeaboo retard on internet says "lion king is a copy of a glorious nippon movie!" and you believe doesn't make it logical.

    Also,
    Hint: Japanese are masters of changing dates, hiding artfacts, historical facts.
    >> Anonymous 04/26/11(Tue)15:58 No.7275718
    >>7275685
    The Matrix was inspired by Ghost in the Shell (the movie).

    Akira also had a huge impact not just on hollywood in America but American culture in general. It was the first time westerners were introduced to the idea that future might not be a utopia, something we dont think about much nowadays but has had a huge impact on America and American cultural exports.
    >> Anonymous 04/26/11(Tue)15:58 No.7275720
    >>7275706
    >http://www.kimbawlion.com/rant2.htm
    well you sure got told. although you already got told like 6 times in this thread already
    >> Anonymous 04/26/11(Tue)15:59 No.7275723
    >>7275706
    http://www.kimbawlion.com/rant2.htm
    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kimba_the_White_Lion
    http://www.straightdope.com/columns/read/1378/did-disneys-em-the-lion-king-em-rip-off-an-old-japanes
    e-tv-series
    http://slumz.boxden.com/f218/lion-king-rip-off-japanese-anime-1333605/
    http://www.sherdog.net/forums/f48/disney-ripped-off-lion-king-japanese-animator-1475229/
    >> Anonymous 04/26/11(Tue)16:01 No.7275728
    >>7275706
    >Hint: Japanese are masters of changing dates, hiding artfacts, historical facts.

    Confirmed for stormfag. Go back to /int/ please, the adults are trying to have a conversation.
    >> Anonymous 04/26/11(Tue)16:13 No.7275735
    >>7275674
    Japanese economical stability and I guess luck.
    >>7275684
    Underage.
    Never heard of Atari, Amiga?
    >> Anonymous 04/26/11(Tue)16:14 No.7275741
    >>7275706
    >Hint: Japanese are masters of changing dates, hiding artfacts, historical facts.

    Sounds like the sort of criticism that the rest of Asia had leveled at you in all those years.
    Coreans: not even good at thinking up of original criticism.
    >> Anonymous 04/26/11(Tue)16:16 No.7275747
    This is terrible, even for them.

    There is nothing original about this song, and that fucking auto-tune...seriously?
    >> Anonymous 04/26/11(Tue)16:18 No.7275751
    This is terrible, even for them.

    There is nothing original about this song, and that fucking auto-tune...seriously?

    At least the black outfits were hot.
    >> Anonymous 04/26/11(Tue)16:20 No.7275760
    didn't alot of the gun formations in america's civil war date back to the sengoku era?
    >> Anonymous 04/26/11(Tue)16:21 No.7275766
    >>7275735
    >underage
    nope, I'm 20. I've heard of them but I don't think they made it to my country (never seen them at least, or maybe that's just because I was too young then)
    >> Anonymous 04/26/11(Tue)16:24 No.7275772
    >>7275720
    >>7275723
    Cool reliable links bro.
    >>7275718
    Matrix had nothing to do with Ghost and I say this because I watched both.
    >>7275741
    Tai/jap:
    No argument, illogical thinking, superiority complex.
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    >> Anonymous 04/26/11(Tue)16:28 No.7275790
    >>7275772
    >Matrix had nothing to do with Ghost and I say this because I watched both.
    yeah, this guy pretty much confirmed for being a troll. the makes of matrix themselves said that they drew inspiration from GITS
    >> Anonymous 04/26/11(Tue)16:28 No.7275791
    Taeyeon has such an awesome voice, i dont know they covered it up with so much autotune.
    >> Anonymous 04/26/11(Tue)16:30 No.7275794
    >>7275772
    >Matrix had nothing to do with Ghost and I say this because I watched both.

    It shocked me as well, I only read about it the other day.

    Here's a really reliable link about it: google.com
    >> Anonymous 04/26/11(Tue)16:30 No.7275795
    >>7275720
    >well you sure got told
    Back to /b/ tai
    >>7275741
    http://www.asiafinest.com/forum/index.php?showtopic=245367
    >>7275760
    Oh the weeaboos, they always amuse me with their blindness.
    >> Anonymous 04/26/11(Tue)16:34 No.7275801
    >>7275790
    >yeah, this guy pretty much confirmed for being a troll.
    Just because I am saying what I think? Stop being such a weeaboo.
    >> Anonymous 04/26/11(Tue)16:34 No.7275803
    >>7275789
    >>7275789
    >>7275789
    >>7275789
    >> Anonymous 04/26/11(Tue)16:37 No.7275813
    Japan:
    1) Highest debt ratio among all countries of the world!
    2) Fastest demographic change and one of the most overaged populations in the world!
    3) Heavily export-dependent economy.
    4) Messed up corporate governance due to overaged managers that cannot accept structural change and industry maturing. Read Jackson from RIETI.
    5) Inefficient information systems. (Check their internet.) Read Aoki from RIETI.
    6) No original or genuine philosophical and ethical discourse in the public.
    YOU CANNOT DO ANY FUCKING SOCIAL REFORMS if your country is overaged and has learned for twenty generations to do nothing but looking up to the Western models and copy them. THAT's the fucking problem.
    Also, political reforms? LOL The last chat I had with my colleague's Japanese flatmate was what she had voted last spring. She said JDP because her father would be a MOF official and Ozawa wants to break down the technocratic structure.
    THAT's no fucking political common sense, that's short-sighted egocentric, political nonsense.
    The best thing that could happen to Japan is another invasion that would reform the country - like every 50 years.
    >> Anonymous 04/26/11(Tue)16:39 No.7275816
    But you're doing everything but thinking "Koreaboo".
    >> Anonymous 04/26/11(Tue)16:41 No.7275819
    >>7275813
    Technically most of Japan's debt is domestic and sustained because of high savings rates among private individuals, banks and corporations.

    Also technically US debt per capita exceeds most of the world when you include government liabilities such as freddie may.
    >> Anonymous 04/26/11(Tue)16:41 No.7275822
    >>7275816
    I think, therefore I am not blind.
    >> Anonymous 04/26/11(Tue)17:00 No.7275830
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    >Tries to astroturf his shitty Kimchi band on /jp/ just because they released a CD in Japan
    >Nobody cares, someone kindly points out that they suck and their songs all sound the same (besides being filled with autotune and ripping off American pop)
    >THEN Y POPLAR NOW
    >Nobody cares still
    >Resorts to insult Japan to whore for attention and get a sense of false superiority
    >He thinks /jp/ gives a shit about Japan
    >> Anonymous 04/26/11(Tue)17:02 No.7275836
    >>7275723
    >http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kimba_the_White_Lion
    One of the most boring movies I ever watched.
    >> Anonymous 04/26/11(Tue)17:07 No.7275843
    What is this thread doing on /jp/?
    Why are people responding?

    Learn to ignore trolls.
    >> Anonymous 04/26/11(Tue)17:17 No.7275853
    >>7275830
    >(besides being filled with autotune and ripping off American pop
    Subtle weeaboo is subtle.

    See
    >>7274994
    >> Anonymous 04/26/11(Tue)17:44 No.7275870
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    >>7275853
    >Ad hominem as an excuse to avoid tackling an argument face first
    >"NO U" logical fallacy

    STFU gook scum
    >> Anonymous 04/26/11(Tue)18:10 No.7275904
    >>7275870
    >Hipocrisy
    GTFO dirty Tai.
    >> Anonymous 04/26/11(Tue)18:17 No.7275915
    Gook, Nip, Chink, who gives a fuck. You're all inferior to the west anyway.
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    >> Anonymous 04/26/11(Tue)21:03 No.7276052
    There is no reason to revive this god awful troll fest,
    take the fight to /int/ if you really intend to have it out more.
    >> Anonymous 04/26/11(Tue)21:06 No.7276068
    >>7275915
    >You're all inferior to the west anyway.

    Did you get into a time machine and warp back to 100 years?
    >> Anonymous 04/26/11(Tue)21:49 No.7276202
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    >> Anonymous 04/26/11(Tue)22:25 No.7276304
    Most Japanese are not interested in K-pop.
    >> Anonymous 04/26/11(Tue)22:32 No.7276337
    SNSD is crap!
    You must not be deceived by Korean.

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eBjETYX1awQ
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=q_gfD3nvh-8
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AXqiwqaChOA
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ch7iAWG6RCQ
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wicOrECbUqM
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6SwiSpudKWI
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zZq77TuPx84
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BsP_4BD99WE
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PK7GomkN2nw
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    SNSD?
    No, thank you.
    >> Wanghealer !3ZMk6AMlsM!!wtSVNQdemky 04/26/11(Tue)23:43 No.7276510
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    http://www.synchtube.com/r/kpop
    Go to here for the amazing music we get. ok? go
    >> Anonymous 04/26/11(Tue)23:46 No.7276522
    >>7276510
    >http://www.synchtube.com

    WTF is this shit?



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