Damn, what a group of dicks.

Dammit, we couldve trolled /v/ with VNs.

gabe doesnt want to reveal his secret

Link?

Kira Kira is on iTunes, of all things.

>>4702367
http://twitter.com/MangaGamer

MG needs profits, and Steam is excellent way to get additional sales. I understand that /jp/ isn't very keen to start something like this, but wouldn't it be good to voice our opposing opinion to Steam?

Damn those close-minded faggots. Having VNs on Steam would be glorious: Win - Win situation for everyone.

>>4702393
I personally would like to see it happen, but let's be honest here.
The average steam user would probably not even look twice at them unless they had a picture of someone holding a gun on the box.

>>4702452
I agree that average Steam users probably wouldn't care, but there are also lots of anime fans who browse Steam. I've talked to few casual anime fans who are interestested in reading visual novels/dating sims, but who have no idea that MangaGamer exists due to lack of advertising on their part.

>>4702393
All thought it's an excellent way of advertising, I still can't throw off the feeling that selling eroge via Steam is ridiculous.

BUMP past the /b/ spam. Seriously /jp/, this is one thing we could do together for common good.

Ahahaha oh wow.

Gabe-sama refuses to host shitty translations.

What a shame indeed. It's not like Steam had anything to lose, they would get a share of the sales...

Maybe I'll send them an email or something.

well it sucks that they cant earn some more money, here's to hoping they dont go bankrupt asap

Do they have public libraries in Japan? I can't imagine paying 40 usd for a book.

>>4702305
IT BECAUSE ALL THE GAMES SUCK

Oh God I lol'd

>>4702740
But 20 dollars for one book is reasonable, yes? On average, one contains about 500kb of text. Kira Kira has more than 2MB of text.

Steam probably realised Mangagamer games are overpriced to fuck and have next to no potential of selling.

MG should tell us the details behind this refusal from Steam. Then we can think of something.

Gabe-sama needs to stop eating and start thinking.

>>4702824
Most likely Gabe doesn't want Steam to ever be associated with hentai. His main audience are oldfags and FPS nerds.

Does Steam have some address that I can send Email about this?

>>4702898
no because they really don't care about your weeboo faggoty games or your complaints

>>4702922
Oh, hello /b/. I think you're not telling the truth.

If all of you emailed Steam you could help change their mind.

>What a sham

Fixed you there, OP.

>>4702954
Why would we want to?

MangaGamer definitely wouldn't let Steam put their overpriced shit on and of the Deal of the Weeks or anything, so it's pointless putting them on Steam.

god damn it, why the fuck does everyone like steam?

it's shit, it's full of bad DRM.

>>4702982
It's not like any of us like it. They just have a lot of buyfags.

>>4702982
Occasionally has good sales and the DRM isn't a big deal. Will you ever be without the internet?

>>4702981
Any sales on Steam would be more money to MangaGamer, and they need money to keep doing translations.

>>4702982
It's the best form of DRM. Relatively non-intrusive compared to most DRM, allows play on multiple computers, allows you to re-download your game if you lose the disk, allows you to play without having the disk in the drive at all times.

Only reasons to possibly dislike Steam are you not knowing how to use it, or you being a butthurt pirate.

>>4703003
This.

Steam is Buyfags Central.

>>4702954
What should we to to them about?

Appeal to their logic? More sales -> more profit?
Anything else?

Let's mail Steam about this.

>>4703005
Why not just buy from MangaGamer's site then?

Putting it on Steam makes no sense, as it would not feel the benefits of Steam.

>>4703020
How could you not know how to use Steam? It's the simplest thing ever.

>>4703036
>>4703046
I'd also like to know WHERE we should mail them.

>>4703049
Because 4chan doesn't buy shit. We pirate the shit. We need to have them exposed to more buyfags so we can have more games translated. Is it too hard for you?

>MangaGamer.com will conduct a Spring Sale celebrating the Japanese school entry season!!
The following school related titles would be marked off accordingly from April 1st to April 7th.

>"KIRAKIRA All-Ages Version"
29.95 Euros -> 14.95 Euros

>>4703049
See >>4702501
>I've talked to few casual anime fans who are interestested in reading visual novels/dating sims, but who have no idea that MangaGamer exists due to lack of advertising on their part.
And I doubt MG will be doing any advertising soon. Getting them on Steam will be easy cheap publicity.

>>4703049
Because steam has got a lot of normalfags. Some probably like manga/anime to some extend, but have no clue that VNs exist. They would see some "new anime game" and buy it without thinking too much.

Of course what would be priceless would be when they realize that they just bought a reading game.

Somehow I doubt selling 18+ games on a program used by 12 year old counter strike players would work...

>>4703049
It wouldn't be any different than buying it from Steam. It's not as if they send you a box with posters, and whatever else is included in Japan.

>>4703075
Steam won't do shit for that, nowhere near MangaGamer's target audience, and at the prices MangaGamer charge, combined with the fact they probably wouldn't allow them to be eligible for Steam's deals, nobody would be willing to take a risk on the games.

>>4703107
There are some all-ages titles as well.

Fuck Mangagamer.

>>4702982 it's shit, it's full of bad DRM.
gb2/ubisoft/

After playing TF2 for about two years the amount of weeaboos is surprising. Steam could make some decent money out of this. Perhaps they realize Mangagamer's prices are total shit?

>>4703142
Get back to bed Peter.

>>4703137
Regardless, more publicity = good.

mofos

The pricing is likely the main issue. Even the majority of wapanese faggots acknowledge that they charge way too much.

Should be lowering the prices in order to try and sell to a wider audience, rather than keeping prices stupidly high and appealing only to hardcore weeaboos and shitload of pirates.

contact@valvesoftware.com

Email them about this. The points brought up in this thread are good examples.

Imagining Gabe sitting down to read a VN amuses me.

Actually sitting down and thinking about this for a while, steam would be great for MG.

Mass community e-mail go.

>>4703036
Appeal to open mindedness about adult content?

Anything else?

>>4703186
The prices for spring sale are quite good. Kira Kira for 15 euros is great deal.

What sort of e-mails should we be sending?

Polite and calm, or rage-filled abuse?

>>4703246
30 usd for a light novel isn't good

>>4703246
It's the prices at launch that are worrying.

By the time sales happen, everyone has pirated it and read the shit out of it, so they're not going to buy it.

>>4703251
>rage
Enjoy getting ignored.

>>4703261
Japanese VN pricing is much, much worse. You're paying for more than just the text.

I think we can all agree that the pricing needs to go down if they are to get accepted into steam. It's for MG's own good.

>>4703271
>Implying anyone stupid enough to e-mail in about VNs isn't going to just get branded a freak and ignored no matter what they say.

>>4703251
Polite and calm of course. Just explain that you know many people who would be interested if they started selling visual novels.

>>4702376
Just checked. Didn't see it.

>>4703261
Stop comparing VNs with books. They're different products.

Mangagamer's prices are already lower than what the games originally cost in Japan.

How about a petition?
Here
http://www.petitionspot.com/
or here
http://www.petitiononline.com/

Plus e-mails with the link to it?

>>4703284
They have a very specific market in Japan, and they know this market will pay a lot more than they're worth.

That sort of market doesn't exist outside of Japan in great enough numbers to actually turn a profit. They would do much better if they lowered their prices, people would be more willing to buy their products as a gamble if they were cheaper.

Maybe create a topic on their forums?

>>4703347
Brace for mocking.

Impulse is better than Steam.

>>4703324
Online petitions NEVER work, ever.

I rather see Touhou up there, but fuck that. The nazis will be back on power before Zun starts having money making ideals.

Steam doesn't want their platform associated with eroge, why is that so hard to understand?

>>4703412
Then what about non-ero games like Higurashi?

>>4703412
What's the matter, too insecure about their sexuality?

>>4703440
yes, pretty much - and scared of the soccermom crowd - rightly so too

>>4703431
They'd probably accept that shit, it's just an adventure game, try and shove it down their throats.

>>4703412
So what? We just need to push them a little in the right direction.

>>4703454
They probably wouldn't.

Steam is against weird Japanese shit in general, unless it's published by SquareEnix.

Even then they only let Square publish their Japanese stuff because they want the Eidos games on there.

>>4703345
Obviously there isn't a western market comparable in size to the Japanese one, but it still doesn't mean they should be lowering their prices as a result. It's purely -- as of now -- for the enthusiast and extremely niche, and they do procure sales despite this limited market and pricing. I also don't think they can charge much less because they've paid an asston for licensing.

>>4703492
If they cut their prices, they would probably make a higher profit.

They should try it out to see if it works, but they never will.

gaben@valvesoftware.com

That's the email given out in all their games' commentary modes.

>>4703507
They've done sales before. I don't know if it ever leads to much of a difference in purchases, though.

>>4703345
Japanese VN prices aren't high because they know the market will pay that much, they're high because they need to be that expensive for the companies to actually make a profit. And the market is willing to pay that much to keep the industry alive. The Japanese VN market isn't very large. The difference between it and the Western market is that Japan is familiar enough with the medium to understand that prices need to be that high for companies to keep making games.

Mainstream companies are paranoid about sex content.
And they should be, you never know when some crazy group of fucktard will aim you.
Remember Equality Now ?

>>4703541
See
>>4703265

Main reason MangaGamer's shit doesn't sell is that they only do digital distribution. If they did proper boxes they'd be a lot more popular. Getting games put on Steam won't do shit to solve the real problem.

>>4703630
Oh boy, we've been over this 100000 times before.

>>4703630
In today's PC market, being on Steam is way more valuable than being in a box, especially since a lot of their stuff wouldn't be sold in most stores

>>4703630
>proper boxes
Won't change much. They will get a few more sales, maybe 1/10th more of us fags will buy, but don't count on any significant difference.

The real problem is lack of publicity to buyfags.

It should be worth noting that almost all of regular games in Japan are almost as pricy as eroge.

>>4703555
Yet BioWare has romance/sex/gangbangorgies options for aliens/homosexuals in their games and sells those games just fine using Steam.

Gabe, why no love for 2D?

>>4703630
That doesn't explain why Jast doesn't do too well either and only gets by because of their nukige sales.

Sent mail to Gabe. I hope some of you other guys do too.

>>4703759
Just sent mine