You don't mean this, do you?

>>4226151
Nope, just the newer version of the /jp/ stuff there

"Detestable villains such as myself are necessary to urge those who reach toward the sun... into action. Life is a series of vicissitudes. And, regardless of how much good or evil there is in the world, the sun will continue to rise from the east. So, you see, everything is like a wheel..." -Houzuki Masaomi

One of these days, I will actually update this damn thing. I guess. But for now, I need a quote to make Yuka and Gore into one villain.

I had the latest version, but I lost it with the loss of my old slave drive.

I should add some things, some recent eroge had some fucking awesome villains.
Maybe some quotes from Gregory or Hikaru though I can't really think of anything specific now.

>>4227396
When I think of good Hikaru lines, I think of that whole scene with Moriuji.

Here's the latest version. For now, I'm thinking about removing Gore, Yuka, Beatrice, Norose and someone of the Touhous and add Yuka & Gore (as a single villain), Houzuki, Bern & Lambda, Xavier and Ryoko from Saya.

>>4227396
I, for one, consider Sorimachi much more villain-y as a character, if you know what I mean.

>>4227411

>Bern & Lambda

Maybe Bernkastel, but Lambdadelta is not a direct villain. She does not care about Battler or the Rokkenjima massacre. She solely and only wants Bernkastel to writhe, and that's not quite a negative attribute anymore what with Bern being a HARLOT QUEEN.

>>4227411
But Sorimachi isn't a villain, he's just a nasty person.

>>4227420
Point taken.

>>4227421
Hikaru isn't a villain, too. Look, it's Muramasa we're talking about here. The whole message of the game is that there is no true villainy. At least Sorimachi has that badass speech in chapter 4.

>>4227411

Yuka has never been to the Netherworld! Why has this quote been altered!

>>4227428
Because it would be easier to understand for the other boards... Or something. Don't worry, I'll fix it ASAP.

>>4227432

You could just say "It doesn't matter if it's humans or demons". Makai literally means "demon world", after all, so Makai residents are 'residents of the demon world' i.e. demons.

If you update it add Scythe Master too.

Wallachia is the best villain Type-Moon ever made.

>>4227411
We don't have a lot of variety, do we? With that many characters from the same franchises.

>>4227450

This board is practically Touhou/Type-Moon/07th Expansion.

End of line.

>>4227450

/jp/ has a very limited range of things it likes.

>>4227446
No, Kotomine is. He's the best Type-Moon character.

>>4227420
she's not even a villain, she just wants the game to continue, which is neither good or bad

>>4227441
As soon as I get a quote for him, sure.

Now that I think about it, I need to check the past threads, too.
http://archive.easymodo.net/cgi-board.pl/jp/thread/3250766
http://archive.easymodo.net/cgi-board.pl/jp/thread/3152955

>>4227455
More like it has a limited range of things it plays.
Especially considering that the great majority can't read Japanese.

>>4227403
The whole speech under the moon in Maou was awesome.
But it also had too much spoilers, guess we can't use it.

>>4227464

Unfortunately that IS 'villainous' because you're SUPPOSED to be rooting for Battler and the end of the endless game.

>>4227471
I actually root for battler to stay the incompetent fucktard he is

Why take?
Because you desire.
Why desire?
Because you love.
Love, Desire, Take. That is the path of conquest.

I can't remember exactly how it goes, but it was something like that.

Do we have a list of heroes quotes too? I guess not?

Best Japan villain ever

>>4227499

>>4227500

>>4227498
We have far too few heroes but we should try anyway. Shirou(FSN), Ryogui(Kara no Kyoukai), Battler (Umineko), Musashi Miyamoto Tomoe Gozen, Benkei. The difficult thing would be finding quotes from the last two guys.

Here, have one for Benkei
"Benkei stood there defiantly, naginata in hand, and so terrible did he look that none dared approach him."

>>4227538
well shirou's obvious: People die when they're killed
now, seriously: "Do you have enough swords, King of heroes?"

>>4227547

Crummy translation!
It's "Here I come, King of Heroes. Do you have enough weapons in stock?"

Anyway, Heroes get one-liners, not quotes. They don't work well with it.

How about Shitman and "I don't care how many Bad Ends I get -- I'll have my revenge!"

>>4227538
There are a lots of heroes, just stop think about Nasu/R07 only.

Morita had a lots of great quotes, Taichi too.
I'm sure Hakuoro had some as well, and there are other VNs like Moon. Policenauts (yeah it count as a VN), etc... that were very quotable.

>>4227569
Ro7 has two, maybe 3.
An incompetent idiot, a 100 year old mentality bitch who awaits for the lottery and a kid who was not the real hero.
Not impressed.

>>4227553
One linears work too and are more easy to remember and use. For example, see the /co/ villain's quotes. At least 10 are one linear and they are the most remembered
Here, have one picture of Benkei and have some quotes for Miyamoto Musashi:
“You win battles by knowing the enemy's timing, and using a timing which the enemy does not expect.”
“Aspire to be like Mt. Fuji, with such a broad and solid foundation that the strongest earthquake cannot move you, and so tall that the greatest enterprises of common men seem insignificant from your lofty perspective. With your mind as high as Mt Fuji you can see all things clearly. And you can see all the forces that shape events; not just the things happening near to you.”

"Generally speaking, the Way of the warrior is resolute acceptance of death. "

"Study strategy over the years and achieve the spirit of the warrior. Today is victory over yourself of yesterday; tomorrow is your victory over lesser men. "

"I have lived for a thousand millenia, watching galaxies die before me. Yet, you oppose me Sakuya, Gensokyo shall burn beneath my feet, after I am done destroying you human. After that I shall wipe this mockery of a planet from the perfect universe I am creating."

-Pig from Reika Bitch Training

>>4227575
Most of the quotes from /co/ (and the list) only work if you know the context behind it, otherwise they are borderline generic(or tehy are even with teh context).
A quote on it's own is hard to be outstanding.

>>4227591
Hmmm...i guess that's true too but people who know who are the characters and what they fight will enjoy them too

Also, here, have a picture of Miyamoto Musashi

>>4227612
If you know the characters, no real point in the list.
They have recycled Darkseid's quotes 10 times, eaxch time getting worse.
They should just stick with the only good thing from Final Crisis, his 'All is Darkseid' speech.

I don't think we should have Umineko on there until it's over.

>>4227631
Or at all.

>>4227623
You know how is /co/. One part love Jack Kirby and his "Revelations" speech, the other part grow up with Superman TAS and love the "But here i am god" speech and the other part, the less, were able to understand Final Crisis and like it

>>4227642
Kirby is god.
But Tiger-Force sounds too stupid no matter what.

One of Hikaru's speech that I translated some time ago if you guys want to use it, removed the true spoilers though.
Hikaru has a lot of great speeches:

If there is only power, can one be a God?
Then is a Dinosaur a God?
Is a Tsunami a God?
Is a 800 mm railway gun a God?
Power is just power. It doesn't have a cause or a will.
In the past, many Conquerors called themselves God.
It was because they all possessed a lot of power.
No. It was because they used that power to conquer and destroy a lot of countries that they believed in their own divine nature. Their subjects too.
Hikaru is one who pay respect to the past, I will follow that route.
Now matter how strong I am now, I won't usurp this place till the worlds itself acknowledge this result.
And I won't commit the mistake to stop on my tracks either!
Every Conquerors in the past became corrupted halfway.
They became satisfied before conquering humanity completely, indulging themselves in their power, they became incomplete Gods
Therefore they were overthrown.
I won't be like this. I will travel through the road of a Conqueror till the end.
Minato Hikaru will fight against all 3 billions humans and will make them yield, this truth will let me reach God's seat

Kageaki: Till the end, you won't throw away this obsession?

Hikaru: I won't! This is truly an obsession, this is truly stupid. But this is the resolution of my life.

First of all, let's adjust the stage. Now this power that stay in Hikaru's.... is enough to share with the whole world.
I need to destroy mankind to realize my wish. But if these humans won't have the strength to fight against my desire... it will be unfair.
Therefore I will give it to them. Strength, and a bloodthirsty heart.

>>4226128

It is so FUCKING retarded that the names are at the bottom, closer to the picture of the next row's villain than the one they belong to.

>>4227702
A little long, if you could shorter it. I haven't play that game so, do you have a better image?

Apocalypse has the coolest quote, hands down.

>>4227702
It carries out and is w.

>>4227722

>>4227732
Shame he is fucking awful

Why not use the good megatron from BW?

/r/ the Touhou only version.

>>4227749

>>4227732
Apocalypse is the biggest joke of a 'Mega Villain' in fiction though and of the rare cases where knowing the context and character ruins the quote.

>>4227755
Thanks a lot.

>>4227756
No joke. He was only good in "Age of Apocalypse" and "maybe" in the TV series

>>4227769
Yeah, the TV series'
'I will abduct ALL the telepaths ever and use them for their goals. I can CONTROL them'.
Bit later on 'Nooooo, the switch that frees them all at once is pressed!'
Guess what happens with all the telepaths ever vs Apocalypse...

So...someone is working on the heroes chart and/or fixing the villain's one?

>>4227813
Yes I am. Well, because I need to make the heroes roster from scratch, that's going to take some time, so I'll just fix the villains for now. I'll comment on all the posts when the new version will be ready.

>>4227702
whats she from?

>>4227842
So how much there are heores+quotes now and what they are? As I dont ever remember seeing /jp/ version of such chart.

>>4227590
Moar memorable quotes.

KOTOMINEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE

KIREEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIII

/thread

>>4227702
I don't get it.

So about the hero chart, what are we using as definition for a "hero"? Does it have to be some kind of Savior of Justice, or can it just be a memorable and good guy from some random slice of life?

>>4227973
Hero as in doing something heroic(with actual opposition), not just the lead of teh story.
The guys that have the villains of the villain chart for example.

>>4227981
So guys like Taichi from CC or Takeshi from Ever17 would still count?

Aand that's how it looks right now. Fixed Yuka's quote, switched Utsuho for another non-Touhou villain bent on destruction, switched Norose for another cool mastermind person, removed Beato, added Ryoko.

Some changes I would consider in the nearest future:
- Another picture for Hikaru? You know, with her face and stuff.
- Some TM villains should leave. The first one will probably be Wallachia.
- Merge Yuka and Gore into one villain. But, I need a single quote for them, so search for some of their awesome dialogues.

Some villains who just need some quotes to have a warm place in the roster:
Bern
Xavier
Master Scythe
Maou
Protag's dad from G-Senjou
Kiriyama (more /a/-related now?)
Sorimachi
Kanae, maybe?
Gregory

More obscure villains. Quotes are harder to find and less people know them, but they still deserve a seat.
Jay of Angelos Armas
Ishima Kaigen of Kaigen Seito/Hanachirasu
Kuki of Ayakashibito
Wraith of Bullet Butlers
MinDeadBlooD guy
Dr. West of EXTRAVAGANZA
Okusama of Mugen Kairou
Kurame of Kusarihime
SURPRISE PARTY guy of Kusari
Barbaroi protagonist

Now, about the heroes. They certainly need to be THE Heroes, and not just protagonists. I guess you can even include some characters that are not actually protagonists, yet still play a major role in the story, like Arcueid. Some examples of this would include:
Reimu/Marisa, Shiki/Shiki/Shirou, Battler/K1 (The obvious ones)
Rance
Fuminori/Saya
Kageaki
Ichijo-Masamune duo
Shitman
Some historical heroes, maybe?

Furrylover McZombie for hero.

The quote is:
Too slow.

Don't cry.

Chachamaru fits the villain status more than Hikaru or Sorimachi.
She should have her quote.

>>4228060
Maybe something more descriptive would be better, like the eye-hand thing.

Sorimachi seems too much like a good guy giving advice to me if you just look at what he says.
Even Doushin has more appropriate quotes.

>>4228060
You of steel.
My Kikai Porshion
I shall say this to you:
Cut like a blade

>>4228029
Good enough?

>>4228118
It's nice, but pregnant villains are too weird. I know you have that image of her turning around, can you please repost it?

>>4228106
Yeah, but he still serves as one of the reasons for Kageaki's angst. I, for one, can't see him as a good guy after GATTAI DAAAAAAAAAAAAA battle.

>>4228135

>>4228138
Uh-huh, thanks.

And guys, don't forget that you need quotes for the heroes roster. I don't have too much VNs installed right now to search for them, and even if I had, it's better for the community to decide on the quote. I just put things together, nothing more.

>>4228029
My ideas:
-Let Norose (his quote was awesome and more or less well known) make the chart bigger (is not like we can't add just two more characters).
-You want to take out some TM's villains? Take out Roa. Maybe Wallachia is not the main villain of the novel like Roa but his quote is simpler and better
-Historical Heroes?
>>4227538
>>4227575
>>4227612
Benkei and Miyamoto Musashi are really good choices. With Miyamoto you have lots of quotes (he make a book after all) so you can just choose. With Benkei i would just post that one ("Benkei stood there defiantly, naginata in hand, and so terrible did he look that none dared approach him.") because is the best one he have (he wasn't much of a talker thought)
For Tomoe Gozen...i don't know. I haven't found many quotes, just descriptions of her and how beautiful and terrible she was. Still, you could put it if you want

>>4227499
-Kiriyama would count as a /jp/'s villain? Is part from a book (/lit/) movie (/tv/) and a manga (/a/) so i don't think he counts

-This is /jp/ so....any Touhou's heroe? Seriously, i have no idea who...maybe Byakuren Hijiri? or maybe Reimu but she is not a proper heroe....(at least depending on your own interpretation)

>>4228029
Recommending Tokugawa Ieyasu as hero. Or villain. Either way, he's awesome.

"To come to know your enemy, first you must become his friend, and once you become his friend, all his defences come down. Then you can choose the most fitting method for his demise. "

Or if you want to make him look less like the scheming magnificent bastard he is:

"Persuade thyself that imperfection and inconvenience are the natural lot of mortals, and there will be no room for discontent, neither for despair. "

>>4228165
Also, can we steal Zhuge Liang? He's not Japanese, but you can't really beat "Now I will write him such a letter that he will die. " when it comes to sheer badass.

>>4228169
As long as you can find him in a VN, why the hell not?

>>4228165
Ieyasu can take the hero spot, if you want to have a Sengoku era villain, it will certainly be Nobunaga.

>>4228174
I can't really see Nobunaga that much of a villian, seeing how he practically started the unification of Japan calling him a villain is weird

>>4228183
Nobunaga was ruthless as fuck though. His personal motto was "Cover all under the heavens with military might"

>>4228191
Yeah, but still...althought i actually like that quote

天下布武

訓読すれば「天下に武を布く（てんがにぶをしく）」となる。「武力を以て
天下を取る」という風に解釈されることが多いが、近年の研究では「武家
の政権を以て天下を支配する」と解釈することが多い。上述のように信長
は美濃攻略後に井ノ口を岐阜と改名した頃からこの印を用いている。

I am extremely disappointed guys. This thread needs more Houzuki.

>>4228210
Umm. I got some news for you.

>>4228150

>>4228150
Ryogui Shiki counts as a hero? Is more an anti-heroe but still, she fight monsters who are hurting/killing people or want to kill her. I would put her in the heroe's chart but i really need to watch the movies again to find a good quote