>A friend of mine is bent on living in Japan, he's a big anime/video game fan and thinks living in Japan would be a dream come true.
There's nothing you can do for him anymore. He's probably one of those faggots who speaks replacing random words with Japanese words.

THAT GIRL WAS SOOO KAWAII DESU

Vacation to see whats it like

.Can he tell troll posts from good posts? Direct him here. Tell him to start his own thread

Just let him go, that's the best way for him to know what he's in for.

>>1781472

No he's not that bad, he represses his power level

Wait for sunset, then have a fight with him on a cliff. Talk with your fist like a real man.

Show him some youtube vids about the Japanese having those "NO AMERICAN" signs, and show him this http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hIbPgEyOGs4

Tell him that's what he would look like to the Japanese. Oh and tell him about the whole gaijin shit (gaijin bubble or whatever the fuck you call it, I forget).

Go with him and then create a sitcom based on your adventures.

What the hell are you talking about? The best thing that ever happened to me is migrating to Japan. Now I get to watch anime and play new games earlier than everyone else in the world, plus it's really easy to get one or two Japanese schoolgirls to suck my gaijin cock everyday.

I have been to Japan it is exactly how an "Otaku" imagines it. You can never listen to the anons who says it sucks, because they are Americans. Americans aren't meant to have fun outside their country. In short, hopefully your friend is not American.

>>1781492
Tell him to vacation for a month, seriously.

In such a period of time a person grows somewhat accustomed to the humdrum of a particular area. If he can't handle it, he can back out.

>>1781543
That video makes me so depressed.

If he doesn't know Japanese, his employment options are very limited. Even if you do, it's still very limited as a foreigner. Also, Japan is really feeling the sting of the current economic crisis, which will make finding income even harder,

If he mentions JET (like many wapanese do) and how easy it is to get in, tell him that's only the bare minimum requirements for them to consider you. You still have to go through a shit load of interviews and other screening before you're truly accepted

Also, if he doesn't have a native Japanese friend, he'll have a hard time going anywhere.

If he thinks Japanese girls are any different then anywhere else in the world, he's dead wrong. They still watch MTV and other crap like anywhere else in the world. They're practically the same, only Japanese girls wear sailor uniforms to school.

>>1781572
Japanese girls arent usually as bitchy and loud as their american counterparts. They also wear things like dresses and skirts FAR more often, which makes them five hundred times better in my book.

>>1781581
I think they're also very easy to blush.

>>1781543
Agree. I was stationed in Japan for just shy of five years and had a lot of fun, but saw a lot of stupid Americans (and stupid non-Japanese in general) in the country.

My waifu (we're still together seven years later so don't start on me about arranged marriages):
1. Understands that I am something of an camera 'otaku' who has an occasional anime habit. Usually this is in the form of something both of us wind up watching together, and is likely a series or movie she has heard about from a friend.
2. Does not do cosplay.
3. Is a human being, not a galge or anime character.

Point being, there were a lot of guys I worked with there who had a misconception about Japanese women being low-hanging fruit. Bullshit. Fat and slobbery in America equates to the same thing in Japan. Don't let your friend think they're going to saunter over there and just go on OFP (Own Fucking Program) for a month or more.

>>1781548
It's well past your bedtime, Fred.

>>1781572
Also agree. Unfortunately, the easiest way to live in Japan is to join either the Air Force or the Navy and hope to get stationed somewhere on the Kanto plain.

OP: Ensure you're friend needs to know where he is going to stay and that some landlords WILL NOT rent to him. If he plans on working, he'll need a work visa, and good luck with that because the application forms are not exactly, shall we say, self-explanatory?

Bachelor's degree minimum to work in japan.

>>1781655
>saw a lot of stupid Americans (and stupid non-Japanese in general) in the country.

I'm ignorant about Japan itself, never visited the country. But if a group of foreigners would do something stupid near me, would all the Japanese folks be pissed off at EVERY foreigner on the area?

>>1781655
>My waifu
>3. Is a human being, not a galge or anime character.
I'm sorry to hear that.

>>1781655
does she not care about your filthy otaku ways?

>>1781673

Oh really? So the people from all over southeast/southwest Asia working in hotels, kitchens, etc. all have degrees in Hospitality or Hotel/Property Management or Cooking or something?

Spacker. Think before typing. No, I'm not talking about illegal employment either. Places will hire foreigners without degrees, but they ought have their shit together for it to happen and the jobs are hard to find.

>>1781655
So you were in the military? Guess what: they did not want you there either.

>>1781682
Yes and no. It depends on where you're at when it happens, but someone might say something to you. If there's alcohol involved (some kind of festival), expect a minor scuffle.

I was there in December 2005 when the jackass of the USS Kitty Hawk killed a 56 year old woman in Yokosuka. Waifu is from northwest Tokyo, and between the morning the story broke to that evening people went from being reasonable and polite to me to downright rude. We were curious why and then saw the news. Laid low in the in-law's apartment watching Kinpatchi-sensei reruns for a couple of days.

Keep in mind, if you act like an asshole people are going to call you on it eventually. This is a generally accepted fact no matter where you go. Therefore, don't be an asshole and you're fine.

>>1781683
Meh. I like her for who she is.

>>1781691
Compared to someone building figurines and slavering over Comiket downloads from rapidshare? Methinks not. She and I read the same manga and watch the same anime. Last thing we finished watching together was Full Metal Alchemist, before that was Planetes. We're working our way through Niea Under 7 (again).

>>1781694
-7/10

I plan on moving to Japan (forever) when I get my Master's Degree in Computer Science. It shouldn't be too hard to get some kind of computer/ programming job, should it? Also, I am somewhat good looking and not chronically antisocial, so what are my chances of marrying an ok-looking otaku girl?

>>1781492

That link cracked me up. Thanks.

>>1781568
Why, 'cause those people are one rung lower than the nerds in their own country, simply because they're willing to shell out money to visit their conventions?

>>1781729
>Compared to someone building figurines and slavering over Comiket downloads from rapidshare? Methinks not. She and I read the same manga and watch the same anime. Last thing we finished watching together was Full Metal Alchemist, before that was Planetes. We're working our way through Niea Under 7 (again).

That's quite cool I guess. What is her favourite?

JAPAN IS NOT A PERFECT DREAM LAND
JAPAN IS JUST LIKE AMERICA/WESTERN EUROPE EXCEPT IN A DIFFERENT LANGUAGE; THERE IS NOTHING SPECIAL OVER THERE
JAPANESE GIRLS DON'T GIVE A SHIT ABOUT YOU
JAPAN IS 99% JAPANESE
JAPAN DOESN'T NEED YOU
JAPAN DOESN'T WANT YOU
JAPANESE EMPLOYERS WOULD RATHER HIRE A JAPANESE PERSON THAN YOU
VIDEO GAMES ARE SEEN AS CHILDISH
EVERYONE HATES OTAKU BECAUSE THEY ARE NERDS

>>1781733
>ok-looking otaku girl
non-existant, how many have you seen in your home country?

>computer science degree
Worthless. You should have gotten a degree in mechanical engineering or went to medical school.

>moving to Japan (forever)

protip: Japan is in no way superior to your own country of origin for the purposes of finding a relationship or job. If you're successful in your own country, stay there. If you're a failure in your own country, you'll be as much or worse of a failure in Area 11. For the reasons you've listed, you don't really have a plausible rationale for going to Japan "forever."

>>1781767
This. Japan isn't a land of PS3s, pocky/sushi and innocent, large-breasted women into greasy, morbidly obese white basement dwellers. How hard is it for you fanatical weeaboos to understand something so simple?

>>1781462
Just let 'im go, sometimes the best way to learn not to play with electricity is to stick your finger in the goddamn socket and pray you don't die.

>>1781733
I'd say pretty good.

Wait a year or two and he'll forget the whole thing. Almost guaranteed.

>>1781750

>That's quite cool I guess. What is her favourite?

So far? The second season of Ghost in the Shell: SAC (Individual Eleven) for something that was on television. Overall, she liked Jin-Roh the best since we've watched it about six or seven times. Which is somewhat odd given she generally pooh-poohs violence of any sort. Nausicaa and Totoro run a very close second for both of us.

>>1781768
What about the fact that I've always liked Japan, even before I got into animu, that living near a place like Akihabara seems extremely desirable, that I consider even an utterly average Japanese woman far more attractive than a hideous western woman (call it a fetish if you will), and that spending the rest of my life in the USA or Venezuela seems almost like a nightmare? I think those are pretty good reasons.

>>1781543
this made me sad. and rage at the same time.

>>1781888
You will eventually need to come back to reality.

>>1781888
You should really be comparing average Western women to hideous Japanese ones instead of the other way around.

>>1781941
by "hideous western woman" I meant the vast majority of white, black, and latin women. I simply do not find them attractive at all.

ITT: people who have never been to japan, and people who HAVE been to japan but are actually japanese.

I moved to Japan, got a job at the local branch of a US company making like three times what an equivalent JP company would pay you

Still SO RONERY and lurk /jp/ all day, but that's mostly due to my own social retardation, so yeah

/jp/ - Japan/General

>>1781970
What kind of job is it? How'd you get it?

>>1781888
>utterly average japanese woman

How would you know what an "utterly average japanese woman" looks like? Most of your exposure to 3D eleven women is in the form of idols and other manufactured celebrity types? And what distinguishes a Japanese woman from the other imagined varieties of Asian women(aside from Koreans, whose general deformity of body instantly identifies their ancestry)?

> I've always liked Japan, even before I got into animu

On what grounds? And what was your first exposure?

> living near a place like Akihabara seems extremely desirable

This is the only reason I can see why you may want to live in Japan, assuming you're into the whole "buying" thing.

Take note though, these are entirely different reasons than "become a programmer" or "marry a fujoshi." Are you certain that you aren't creating the reasons to justify an irrational, deep seated dream that Japan is some sort of nerd paradise?

>>1781970

Enlighten me on how to go about doing this.

To all the people saying japan is America but with a different language

STFU, stop oversimplifying things.

shit, if it was the same, America would be producing Anime, and have Mcnoodles/rice/sushi/other-food-that-is-commonly-associated-with-japan-and-is-otherwise-a-staple instead of Mcdonalds

and they DEFINATELY would not have a black president.

tl;dr

Japan is really different from America, tell him to go on holiday there first to see what it's like.

But not Tokyo or other high density places like that, cuz he's gonna get mugged or some shit.

>>1781987
>>1781991
software engineer at an internets/advertising company
they have a lengthy interview process and are basically looking for big-name diplomas (U of Tokyo in my case)

>>1781991
Join a company that has huge overseas ties?

they're always looking for people to ship off

work there for about 2 years, then apply for overseas transfer.

>>1782001
>anime
It's shit, right?

>Mcnoodles/rice/sushi/other-food-that-is-commonly-associated-with-japan-and-is-otherwise-a-staple
Guess what most Japanese have for breakfast? Toast and coffee.

Japan is not anime. Real life is not a cartoon.

>>1782029
Guess what most people eat in Japan?
>Rice

guess what the most commonly consumed meat in japan is?
>Fish

DER HUR shut up

>>1782029
I forgot to add, the most popular fast food chain in Japan is McDonalds.

>>1782001
>Tokyo
>mugged
lol
I see you've never been to Tokyo, or Japan for that matter

>>1782001
>To all the people saying japan is America but with a different language

Guess which other nation had the greatest influence on modern Japanese culture.

>shit, if it was the same, America would be producing Anime, and have Mcnoodles/rice/sushi/other-food-that-is-commonly-associated-with-japan-and-is-otherwise-a-staple instead of Mcdonalds

We have cartoons, beef bowl and panda express chains.

>and they DEFINATELY would not have a black president.

Obama is half white and never met his black father. In any case, he's hardly the representative of most blacks in this country.

>tl;dr Japan is really different from America, tell him to go on holiday there first to see what it's like.

So having cartoons and sushi makes Area 11 an incomprehensibly different country?

>>1782041
I see you're retarded, good luck with that.

Japan has muggings, and like in America, about 60% of those aint reported.

Still happens though, just because you specifically have not been mugged, or have not seen someone get mugged, doesn't mean it doesn't exist.

>>1782036
Sorry, I thought you were suggesting that Japanese were incapable of eating anything Western. But the fact stands, Tokyo and every other developed city are very similar.

>>1782036
So eating rice and fish makes Japan a country worlds apart from the United States?

>>1782067
>Japan has muggings, and like in America, about 60% of those aint reported.
No... no it really doesn't.

You're an idiot and you've probably never even left your state. Enjoy America.

>>1781989
Well, I've "researched" it a lot and have simply found that I like Japanese girls more than any others, as I said, call it a fetish (and its not too hard at all to tell them apart from Chinese, etc.). First exposure was watching a bunch of samurai movies with my dad as a small child (ever since then I do things like bowing slightly when meeting a new person, etc.), and always playing as 日本　in WW II games since I was like 8 years old. And I know that there, just like here, nerds are rejects.

You're all boneheads for even getting into this debate.

>>1782055
No toilet paper, practically no one uses credit cards (nearly everything is via cash), when eating in a classy restraunt it's rude to eat hot dishes before cold dishes.

that's just naming a few

yeah, i'd say it's fairly different.

>>1782067
Sure, Japan has muggings, but take a look at per capita crime stats, for fucks sake. You can't compare it to the west.
In LA you have places that are considered unsafe in broad fucking daylight. In Tokyo I'll gladly walk around the seediest parts of Kabukicho at 2AM and feel perfectly safe.

>>1782078
Yes...yes it really does. You're apparently the one living in a fantasy land

>>1782086
Alright, so if I were to post some pictures of some Asian women with what degree of success could you identify their ancestry as Japanese?

>>1782102
aaaaaand you forget that muggers tend to target white people, because they have the idea that they carry more money.

which they usually do.

>>1782067
dude, nobody in japan has guns

>>1782075
if i had to choose between

"exactly the same excluding language"

and

"worlds apart"

i think i'll go with "worlds apart" thank you very much.

>>1782112
A Japanese mugger is about as threatening as a whiffle bat.

It's pretty safe to say that wanting to move to Japan and fulfill your every dream of living in Akihabara, eating sushi, watching anime, and fucking Japanese girls is just a phase. I had it too in high school, but eventually came to reality.
It's simply not feasible. There's a reason why we get more immigrants in a day than Japan does in a year.

>>1782112
You have got to be trolling, seriously, 10/10
White people are big and scary, and carry credit cards
Japanese are quiet and are known to carry hundreds of dollars+ in cash
Your hypothetical mugger knows this much.

>>1782115
And? Muggings are not pistol exclusive.

>>1782112
>>1782099
>>1782036
>>1782001
>>1782118

narutard faggot detected

>>1782108
God, I just said that I like Japanese girls. No need for such a game.

>>1782125
One lone white guy is entirely muggable, even if he looks tough, muggers tend to have friends (group effort), and it's not like the Japanese are credit card retarded.

you really have to try hard to get mugged in Japan

I suppose if you're a 70-year-old granny staying out after midnight in a dark alley in the really bad parts of town, flashing around your wallet full of fat wads of cash in plain sight, there's a slight possibility that you might get threatened with a mugging

>>1782130
Fucking American.

>>1782118
So wait, you believe there are fundamental differences in the motivations and cognitive processes of Japs compared to all people elsewhere?

.>>1782140
Credit cards are not that common in japan; it's very cash-based.

>>1782135
Answer the question, please.

ITT we have those who have had their dreams crushed already and are bitter, and those that are still hopeful.

>>1782144
Alright, you go do that in Japan, go fill you wallet with cash, wave it around late at night in a dark ally in the bad part of town.

because if what you said is true, you should be totally safe.

fucking moron.

>>1782140
once again, I see you've never been to Tokyo

it's just too crowded for crime

there is no lone white guy, there is no such thing as an empty street, the nearest police box is within 100m at all times

you have a bigger chance of being stabbed to death in the middle of Akihabara by a crazed suicidal nutcase than being mugged

>>1782162
>bad part of town

Oh lol.

>>1782086
>always playing as 日本　in WW II games since I was like 8 years old.
You dirty fucking faggot prick bitch commie nigger spic slav queer.
You're suppost to pic German

>>1781733
i hope you realize immigration to japan is illegal

>>1782160
>ITT we have those who have a measure of circumspection and skepticism and those that are irrationally hopeful. And Narutards.

Fixed that for you.

>>1782124
>not feasible

How so?

>>1782177
Do some research, kid.

>>1782174
In every strategy game I've played, it's always been Germany, Russia, and Japan (in that order).

>>1782175
Even with papers?
enjoy your misuse of the English language

>>1782162
Like I said, if you really try hard, sure. You can simply throw away your wallet too. (Chances are someone will pick it up and return it)

You go keep on deluding yourself, I'll enjoy being able to go out drinking until as late as I like and not having to worry about getting shot.

>>1782176
I don't think "Don't go there, nothing's different" really constitutes a well-informed skepticism.

I would say ITT we have those who are hopeful, and those who simply don't like Japan.

>>1782187
My research shows that there are currently foreigners present in the country of japan. This somewhat breaks the idea that it is unfeasible to live there.

>>1782203
More like people who want to go to Japan and don't want other gaijin there.

>>1782196
No America, Britain, or commonwealth?
;___;

>>1782175
I hope you realize that you just made that up. It takes a while, but any well-behaved person with a good career can eventually become aJapanese citizen.

>>1782203
I think it's more like "Japan is not a magical gaijin paradise. Stop dreaming about living there because nothing good can come out of it."

>>1782221
I try to play every nation, but eventually will just stick to those three. Every now and then, I'll play Britain or China, but those are my off-days.

>>1782201
quite the change of tune fucktard, went from "A granny in blah blah blah MIGHT get mugged" to "when i drink i'm safe"

not the same thing.

either DO what i outlined, or shut up.
yeah you can avoid getting mugged if you're not stupid, but the shit happens, and you're trying to play it off as if japan is some country where no one is poor enough to attack someone else for money.

>>1782222
Um, no. There's a reason why Japan is 99.4% Japanese. It's not a mistake...their borders are not open.

>>1782245
Maybe no one wants to go there?

INB4HONOROFYAKUZA

>>1782255
wut?

>>1782241
You obviously haven't played the greatest RTS ever.
Company of Heroes.

What the hell is this shit about Japan having a similar culture to America? Is this trollan? I mean, really? Are you that naive? I don't think I even need to present any evidence... I understand that people are inherently similar in some ways in regards to personality and life goals... but such a claim is just absurd.

And even if Japan doesn't want the U.S. military in their country, their presence saves the Japanese billions of dollars a year for self defense spending which then gets poured into useful (and useless) things such as education.

I can see what everyone is trying to say. Japanese has some awesome entertainment, but if you want to live there as a foreigner, you will probably have to work a crappy job (depending on our level of training) and there is a chance you will become disillusioned (like anyone who is seriously thinking about living permanently in Japan was illusioned in the first place...) with Japan. Perhaps. There are tons of people who went to Japan with anime starry eyes and live there today and love it still.

Yes, indeed, there is a chance a foreigner who goes to Japan could end up as miserable as the rest of the Japanese once the novelty of the new culture has passed.

>>1782253
There's that, but there's also the immense bureaucracy. It's turned many a gaijin away. Basically, one will never be Japanese, and will always be a visitor.

>>1782203
>I think it's more like "Japan is not a magical gaijin paradise. Stop dreaming about living there because nothing good can come out of it."

This is what I meant here: >>1782176. Most of the people talking about going to live in Japan in this thread are woefully uninformed as to the benefits and drawbacks of what residency entails, they lack marketable skills/means of sustainable income and likely have very little understanding of what an undertaking this sort of permanent relocation is.

It's a crime that people so stupid continue to pollute the air by breathing.

>>1782265
AMERICA: WORLD POLICE
wtf we're losing money dammit

>>1782265
In what non-superficial ways is it dissimilar?

>>1782245
Stop trying. There are gaijin with Japanese passports. Its called "naturalization". There are even negroes who are Japanese citizens. Look it all up on whatever ministry's in charge of it's website. unless, of course, you can't read 日本語

>>1782245
You're a lunatic.

>>1782270
agreed

>>1782264
I haven't. So why is it the best RTS ever?

>>1782280
Define "superficial" first, because we are clearly not on the same page.

>>1782264

Fuck, for having such small battles compared to other RTS games, CoH has more tension than any other game. Nothing gives me an OH FUCK moment like stumbling upon a assault gun while leading your infantry around and the resulting scramble to get your light armor out of the way while trying to STICKY BOMB AGAINST THE WHEELS it until it dies before it can take out my infantry squad. And damn Shermans are made of paper if attacked from the rear.

>>1782222
WRONG

>>1782244
You're making it sound like every lost white tourist will end up with their wallet stolen at gunpoint. You're wrong. Tokyo is one of the safest cities in the world, considering that it's THE biggest urban area on the planet with 30+ million people. Just saying.

Obviously I won't be performing feats of wallet-waving to prove you wrong on the internet, so enjoy living in your less-safe-than-Tokyo city I guess.

>>1782270
I fail to see why.
Personally, i don't see a problem with someone who has hope for something, even if they have no idea what to expect. It's a life experience; there's no wrong choice here. if you go and can't make it work, lesson learned. If you can and do, job well done.

What exactly is the problem here?

>>1782294

It isn't.

Protip - if you're in a "bad" part of Tokyo, you, as a gaijin, will be the most threatening thing in the area.

>>1782316
>Obviously I won't be performing feats of wallet-waving.

in other words, you're just talking trash.
it's not a matter of proving me wrong or right, it's the fact that it's something you could do easily coming home from work or whatnot, and seeing for yourself.

if it is as safe as you say, try it, and confirm it for yourself.

>>1782316
Exactly, for me I just compare it with my native Caracas, where 200 or so people are murdered every week. I haven't heard of a single person there who hasn't been mugged at least once. It's like a fucking war zone, and not as bad as many other places in Latin America.

>>1782264
greatest RTS ever?

saying anything other than starcraft is retarded

>>1782320
>even if they have no idea what to expect

If you did the research before chasing your star, you would know what to expect. Essentially, your "hope" is founded on a premise of ignorance and projection of your desires onto another country.

>It's a life experience; there's no wrong choice here. if you go and can't make it work, lesson learned. If you can and do, job well done.

You know, not all of us are completely selfish, sociopaths with no obligations to anyone else. If you waste years in which you could be establishing a career screwing around in Area 11, your actions harm more people than just yourself. And trying to start your career in Area 11 itself is a disastrous mistake - you'd be an unlikely candidate for even an entry-level job thanks to the recession, all the more thanks to your status as a foreigner.

And if you're a NEET, you won't be doing much outside your room anyway, so living in Japan is inconsequential.

>>1782301
Give me your conception of a superficial difference first, if you could.

>>1782332
You're assuming that I care enough about this discussion to take it IRL. I really don't.

safe or not, I'm not about to go attempt to get mugged to satisfy an anonymous 4chan troll

>>1782174
Well, Germans were always my 2nd choice. Although, before the who RTS discussion started, I was really mostly talking about fligth sims. Ah, the joy of manuevering circles around lumbering American fighters in a Mitsubishi Zero (in IL2 or CFS2).

>>1782352
You misunderstand me, i won't know if you get mugged or not, nor are you under any obligation to inform us of such.

Just that you have some strange idea about Japan being the mother teresa of the world, you need to open your eyes.

you say all that doing all this shit is safe, yet you know that simply trying could have serious consequences.

Lying to yourself, it's sad.
yeah you may think i'm a troll, but it really bothers me when people live a life of delusion.

>>1782365
>life of delusion

Hey man, don't rag on my 2D waifu.

>>1782342
...RED ALERT.

army of dogs > army of soldiers > army of tanks > army of dogs

it's like rock paper sicssors

>>1782350
I don't consider language to be a superficial difference in the slightest, for one. It goes beyond a simple difference in communication methods; language affects how you interpret the world around you.

>>1782365
Do you deny that it's safer than virtually every other country?

>>1782361
The Zeros are always best.
I try driving a Messerschmidt and it's basically trying to drive a tank in the air. Good firepower though

>>1782365
it's safe enough for me

I've been going drinking and hooker-hunting at night, I've walked home through half of the city at 2AM, I've never felt unsafe here for the entire 3 years of my stay so far

my experience trumps your opinion, so that's that. if you want to call that lying to myself, you're delusional.

...and that's my last post, I'm off to go shopping

>>1782345
>not all of us are completely selfish...etc

What? What harm will come from trying to move out-of-country when that's what you want? Who's going to get hurt when you apply for jobs you may not get? Stop pretending to be moralfag about this.

Hope is always based on distortion; you don't hope for certainties.

>>1782398
>What harm will come from trying to move out-of-country when that's what you want? Who's going to get hurt when you apply for jobs you may not get?

Do you have parents? They may need to rely upon you in their old age and at least in my case, it's a serious concern. I'm not certain what is considered "moralfag" these days, nor am I particularly troubled by it, but I'd assume that not being a douche towards those who gave you existence is common courtesy. And again, the fact that the chances of a foreigner finding a job there in a depression are infinitely close to zero doesn't exactly improve my opinion of such a decision.

>you don't hope for certainties
You've missed the point I was making. Their hope is based on a wishful ignorance of Japan rather than an inability to accurately gauge the niceties of the situation. If there is "distortion" then it's to a far greater degree than most hopes of rational individuals. This is the same sort of crime perpetrated by Narutards and thus, deserves the same level of reprisal.

Well, I see it as being somewhat simple. After graduating, I can stay here and live as a typical outcast nerd with an ok programming job and perhaps an unattractive western wife. Or I can be an outcast nerd with an ok programming job in Japan, with anime easily watchable on tv, akihabara a short train ride away, and an utterly average yet lovely-in-my-eyes fujoshi as my wife. I'm gonna go for my dream, or die trying. Enjoy bitterly wishing you had at least tried when you're old. Good night.